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The reference to 'Edge remarked that the game's Colonial Marines are in an inappropriate context because in the film they are depicted as Weyland-Yutani's private army and tasked with fighting Alien creatures. However, in the game, the Colonial Marines fight Weyland-Yutani's other private military armies.' is valid (in the sense that they said it), but is contrary to the actual film. The Colonials Marines are shown to be independent of 'the Corporation' ('Well, I believe Corporal Hicks has authority here. This operation is under military jurisdiction.') It's a reference, but entirely contrary to what the film actually shows... Roche-Kerr ( talk) 07:52, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
The EGM-Reviewer Brandon Justice admitted to having written the review before even having played the game and thus the review is not a true review that should be mentioned here since it doesn't reflect the true reception of EGM regarding that game. Since the part of the article deals with the actual reception of the game, this PR piece shouldn't be mentioned. Justice also made clear that his perception is not really based on his thoughts about the game, but is rather weighed against the opinion of other journalists, making his review basically worthless since it's not the objective analysis it should be:
"I wrote this review weeks ago for our latest print issue, long before I saw any other publication's score."
Here's a link to the site where his statement can be found:
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/egm-review-aliens-colonial-marines/#/ 77.183.208.247 ( talk) 18:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I've updated it as best i can, however i have a feeling that there is little bits of information missing from it here and there, if I have missed anything could someone add it in, Thanks AJFurnell 11:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
That should do it. ;) JAF1970 ( talk) 16:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The developers in the GI article state quite explicitly it takes place after Alien 3. JAF1970 ( talk) 05:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
People originally mistook mentions of this game to mean Gearbox was working on a new Halo game - which they aren't. Should that be included in the article? 125.238.132.199 ( talk) 22:11, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Why is a EuroGamer article being used as a reference for the release date? I mean, that's probably the Europe release date, but everything else points to October 2008 for NA. Someone may want to fix that, unless there's is a source showing a 2009 NA release (the original date before being moved up to 2008). 71.14.141.219 ( talk) 04:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I've rated it a C class. As informative as expected, nicely laid out, bit concerned that it depends so much on one source, but don't think this can be fixed until release. Yobmod ( talk) 08:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
http://www.vgreleases.com/GameIndex-a.aspx listed as march 2nd and 27th for USA and europe. I Cant add to references:((( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.73.216 ( talk) 23:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
This article will be incorrect until a more solid source than a developer for the game shows up then.
Lorin Wood from Gearbox said "Hi guys. No Fury 161 last time I checked" and "Hey guys, Regarding the Fury remark, I've been on the project for some time and I've never been assigned any design work for that facility, nor was anything ever mentioned. If it was in the original script by the writers it was probably removed some time ago as it really has nothing to do with the objective of the game, which is to be a colonial marine and shoot critters in settings established in the second film.".
http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showpost.php?p=1433943&postcount=393
http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showpost.php?p=1434620&postcount=415
The article says "The events of the game are set after those of the film Alien 3. A Colonial Marine search and rescue team has been sent to investigate the U.S.S. Sulaco in search of Ellen Ripley, Corporal Dwayne Hicks, and the rest of the missing marines who were dispatched to LV-426." However, during the events of Alien3, it's clear that the Company knows exactly where Ripley and Hicks are and would not need to search for them. It would make more sense if the game was set between Aliens and Alien3 because at that time the Company would not have known what had happened to the Marines and a search team would be warranted. Anyways, the link is dead so I can't check it myself and I can't find anything else about it. Anyone have any info about this? — Mr. Van Tine ( t – c) 16:36, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Wasn't there news on this? I've been trying to find it, but all I've manged to find is mentions that it HAD been cancelled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.157.235 ( talk) 09:11, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Go to http://66.194.172.6, set your birthday and enter "father" as the hostname to see an extended trailer. This might be worth including in the article as it seems to be featuring gameplay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.63.113.61 ( talk) 00:32, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Why was my edit deleted? Aliens vs Marines multiplayer has been confirmed! Don't believe me? Then go to YouTube. Anyway, I redid my edit. FangSylux ( talk) 11:31, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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So in that spirit, I will bridge half the distance: here should be a suitable source Wikipedia could use http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/04/04/the-multiplayer-pulse-of-aliens-colonial-marines. 50.76.233.161 ( talk) 20:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
I think it should be mentioned, because the game has completed developement, it had working LAN and everything And it's not a first person shooter, the aliens are playable *altho we werent allowed to only the staff were) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.51.24.36 ( talk) 20:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
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The article states that you find his corpse, but I never found it. Where is it at? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manderinesauce ( talk • contribs) 23:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
On 30th of April, Polygon announced a lawsuit against Sega and Gearbox for wrong advertising. They claimed the game presented before the release was very different from the version post release and made people prepurchase a game that was not how people thought it would be.
This video shows it well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGXDM3LGnk
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This section starts with, "Aliens: Colonial Marines has received mostly positive reviews" (with citations referencing the aggregate score sites listed in the stat box to the right), when the aggregate scores are less than 5/10. That strikes me as akin to saying, in a room with 4 females and 6 males, "The room mostly contains females." Maybe the text is older than the scores? 2601:C:AB80:3D1:BE5F:F4FF:FE35:1B41 ( talk) 12:07, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Criticism needs a cleanup. As owner and player, its quite good
Alien 2 story ... except (I am sure this can be backed up by gaming websites
and magazine reviews)
- Games is sooo linear and scripted that its buggy. E.g. I shoot canisters near Armoured Carrier in a mission and they dont explode until approached, killing me. It was supposed to shoot from relative victinity to start the sequence
- Game is very hard on easiest level. While they shoot you faster on higher difficulties, additional health/armor or different system needs to be introduced. Coupled with no real save system - but checkpoints that save your current health and ammo status, it makes it dull, have to replay same parts time to time. This is a big downer.
- AI is very low, lower then in Quake. Enemies easily get stuck and are often too dumb, or for example, your friends constantly shoot you with friendly line of fire. For NPCs it takes a lot more work to kill enemies etc. AI is saddest thing in game. 178.220.188.222 ( talk) 12:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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Expect a completed review by Monday. JOE BRO 64 22:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
The lede section is giving prominence to the AI problem existing in the game at release, while hiding that there is a known fix for this problem. A reader who just skimmed through this part of the article would leave with the impression that playing the game today in single-player mode would suffer from this bad AI.
I know that this misconception is corrected in the body, where it explains the fix as covered by reliable sources, but the lede should stand on its own as a neutral short version of the article. Either give the AI fix the same prominence in the lede to avoid the unbalance, or remove both and let the reader read the full article to find about this subject of the AI problems existing and release. Diego ( talk) 08:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
It should be noted that the game’s script continues the lore established in ACMTM from 1997. Notably the “blue on blue incident avoidance” established in the ACMTM. These being the Legato and Shinyo Maru. Also the “conflicted responses” of Bishop 341B from Aliens 1986. It’s detailed in various places online if you search for “nefarious Bishop 341-B.”
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The reference to 'Edge remarked that the game's Colonial Marines are in an inappropriate context because in the film they are depicted as Weyland-Yutani's private army and tasked with fighting Alien creatures. However, in the game, the Colonial Marines fight Weyland-Yutani's other private military armies.' is valid (in the sense that they said it), but is contrary to the actual film. The Colonials Marines are shown to be independent of 'the Corporation' ('Well, I believe Corporal Hicks has authority here. This operation is under military jurisdiction.') It's a reference, but entirely contrary to what the film actually shows... Roche-Kerr ( talk) 07:52, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
The EGM-Reviewer Brandon Justice admitted to having written the review before even having played the game and thus the review is not a true review that should be mentioned here since it doesn't reflect the true reception of EGM regarding that game. Since the part of the article deals with the actual reception of the game, this PR piece shouldn't be mentioned. Justice also made clear that his perception is not really based on his thoughts about the game, but is rather weighed against the opinion of other journalists, making his review basically worthless since it's not the objective analysis it should be:
"I wrote this review weeks ago for our latest print issue, long before I saw any other publication's score."
Here's a link to the site where his statement can be found:
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/egm-review-aliens-colonial-marines/#/ 77.183.208.247 ( talk) 18:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I've updated it as best i can, however i have a feeling that there is little bits of information missing from it here and there, if I have missed anything could someone add it in, Thanks AJFurnell 11:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
That should do it. ;) JAF1970 ( talk) 16:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The developers in the GI article state quite explicitly it takes place after Alien 3. JAF1970 ( talk) 05:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
People originally mistook mentions of this game to mean Gearbox was working on a new Halo game - which they aren't. Should that be included in the article? 125.238.132.199 ( talk) 22:11, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Why is a EuroGamer article being used as a reference for the release date? I mean, that's probably the Europe release date, but everything else points to October 2008 for NA. Someone may want to fix that, unless there's is a source showing a 2009 NA release (the original date before being moved up to 2008). 71.14.141.219 ( talk) 04:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I've rated it a C class. As informative as expected, nicely laid out, bit concerned that it depends so much on one source, but don't think this can be fixed until release. Yobmod ( talk) 08:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
http://www.vgreleases.com/GameIndex-a.aspx listed as march 2nd and 27th for USA and europe. I Cant add to references:((( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.73.216 ( talk) 23:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
This article will be incorrect until a more solid source than a developer for the game shows up then.
Lorin Wood from Gearbox said "Hi guys. No Fury 161 last time I checked" and "Hey guys, Regarding the Fury remark, I've been on the project for some time and I've never been assigned any design work for that facility, nor was anything ever mentioned. If it was in the original script by the writers it was probably removed some time ago as it really has nothing to do with the objective of the game, which is to be a colonial marine and shoot critters in settings established in the second film.".
http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showpost.php?p=1433943&postcount=393
http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showpost.php?p=1434620&postcount=415
The article says "The events of the game are set after those of the film Alien 3. A Colonial Marine search and rescue team has been sent to investigate the U.S.S. Sulaco in search of Ellen Ripley, Corporal Dwayne Hicks, and the rest of the missing marines who were dispatched to LV-426." However, during the events of Alien3, it's clear that the Company knows exactly where Ripley and Hicks are and would not need to search for them. It would make more sense if the game was set between Aliens and Alien3 because at that time the Company would not have known what had happened to the Marines and a search team would be warranted. Anyways, the link is dead so I can't check it myself and I can't find anything else about it. Anyone have any info about this? — Mr. Van Tine ( t – c) 16:36, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Wasn't there news on this? I've been trying to find it, but all I've manged to find is mentions that it HAD been cancelled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.157.235 ( talk) 09:11, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Go to http://66.194.172.6, set your birthday and enter "father" as the hostname to see an extended trailer. This might be worth including in the article as it seems to be featuring gameplay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.63.113.61 ( talk) 00:32, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Why was my edit deleted? Aliens vs Marines multiplayer has been confirmed! Don't believe me? Then go to YouTube. Anyway, I redid my edit. FangSylux ( talk) 11:31, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
It is revolting because it lacks compassion. Not everyone has the time nor the inclination to shepherd Wikipedia. These persons who visit Wikipedia for enrichment however do have good hearts and wish to see it grow and strengthen. All they have are ideas and knowledge, it is up to the editors to take all of these into account, no matter how trivial or minute, and use their experience and wisdom to weigh and integrate them. It should not be a solo-venture of who could give the greatest display of researching prowess. Maybe you do not fit my stereotype of a Wikipedia editor, but the above exchange certainly does fit the stereotype of the stifling process an article goes through.
So in that spirit, I will bridge half the distance: here should be a suitable source Wikipedia could use http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/04/04/the-multiplayer-pulse-of-aliens-colonial-marines. 50.76.233.161 ( talk) 20:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
I think it should be mentioned, because the game has completed developement, it had working LAN and everything And it's not a first person shooter, the aliens are playable *altho we werent allowed to only the staff were) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.51.24.36 ( talk) 20:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
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The article states that you find his corpse, but I never found it. Where is it at? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manderinesauce ( talk • contribs) 23:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
On 30th of April, Polygon announced a lawsuit against Sega and Gearbox for wrong advertising. They claimed the game presented before the release was very different from the version post release and made people prepurchase a game that was not how people thought it would be.
This video shows it well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGXDM3LGnk
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This section starts with, "Aliens: Colonial Marines has received mostly positive reviews" (with citations referencing the aggregate score sites listed in the stat box to the right), when the aggregate scores are less than 5/10. That strikes me as akin to saying, in a room with 4 females and 6 males, "The room mostly contains females." Maybe the text is older than the scores? 2601:C:AB80:3D1:BE5F:F4FF:FE35:1B41 ( talk) 12:07, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Criticism needs a cleanup. As owner and player, its quite good
Alien 2 story ... except (I am sure this can be backed up by gaming websites
and magazine reviews)
- Games is sooo linear and scripted that its buggy. E.g. I shoot canisters near Armoured Carrier in a mission and they dont explode until approached, killing me. It was supposed to shoot from relative victinity to start the sequence
- Game is very hard on easiest level. While they shoot you faster on higher difficulties, additional health/armor or different system needs to be introduced. Coupled with no real save system - but checkpoints that save your current health and ammo status, it makes it dull, have to replay same parts time to time. This is a big downer.
- AI is very low, lower then in Quake. Enemies easily get stuck and are often too dumb, or for example, your friends constantly shoot you with friendly line of fire. For NPCs it takes a lot more work to kill enemies etc. AI is saddest thing in game. 178.220.188.222 ( talk) 12:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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I've always liked Alien (not the third one or those crappy Predator crossover movies, those don't count). This looks like a very interesting article. Expect comments by the end of the week. JOE BRO 64 23:05, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Expect a completed review by Monday. JOE BRO 64 22:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
The lede section is giving prominence to the AI problem existing in the game at release, while hiding that there is a known fix for this problem. A reader who just skimmed through this part of the article would leave with the impression that playing the game today in single-player mode would suffer from this bad AI.
I know that this misconception is corrected in the body, where it explains the fix as covered by reliable sources, but the lede should stand on its own as a neutral short version of the article. Either give the AI fix the same prominence in the lede to avoid the unbalance, or remove both and let the reader read the full article to find about this subject of the AI problems existing and release. Diego ( talk) 08:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
It should be noted that the game’s script continues the lore established in ACMTM from 1997. Notably the “blue on blue incident avoidance” established in the ACMTM. These being the Legato and Shinyo Maru. Also the “conflicted responses” of Bishop 341B from Aliens 1986. It’s detailed in various places online if you search for “nefarious Bishop 341-B.”
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