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The article on Alice Oswald's poetry collection
[1] identifies her brother as 'actor Will Keen' ('Her father is a retired banker, her mother the garden designer Mary Keen, her brother the actor Will Keen.'). The article on Mary Keen
[2] (she simply doesn't use her first name of 'Priscilla', which makes sense as it was also her mother's name; as also clearly shown here
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp130975/lady-priscilla-mary-rose-keen-nee-curzon) mentions both Alice Oswald and Laura Beatty as her children: 'Keen lives in Gloucestershire with her husband, Charles, with whom she has four children... My third daughter, Alice [Oswald, the poet]... my daughter Laura [Beatty], who is a writer...' Therefore the three are siblings, and Dafne Keen, Will's daughter, is the niece of Alice Oswald and Laura Beatty.
This all matches up with the Debrett's 2011 pedigree of the Earls Howe, which under descendants of the 6th Earl, gives the full names of all these siblings and their marriages. This firmly- beyond any shadow of a doubt- establishes the identities of all these individuals. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
78.144.70.169 (
talk) 14:09, 19 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Bibliography
I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section:
Cite templates will be used where possible.
Tables may be used to organise short stories, poems and/or book reviews.
I prefer capitalization and punctuation to follow the standard cataloguing rules in
AACR2 and
RDA, rather than "
title case".
Links (either direct or indirect) to potentially unreliable or incomplete digitised copies and to booksellers may be removed.
This is a work in progress; feel free to continue.
Sunwin1960 (
talk) 00:27, 25 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women writers, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
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The article on Alice Oswald's poetry collection
[1] identifies her brother as 'actor Will Keen' ('Her father is a retired banker, her mother the garden designer Mary Keen, her brother the actor Will Keen.'). The article on Mary Keen
[2] (she simply doesn't use her first name of 'Priscilla', which makes sense as it was also her mother's name; as also clearly shown here
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp130975/lady-priscilla-mary-rose-keen-nee-curzon) mentions both Alice Oswald and Laura Beatty as her children: 'Keen lives in Gloucestershire with her husband, Charles, with whom she has four children... My third daughter, Alice [Oswald, the poet]... my daughter Laura [Beatty], who is a writer...' Therefore the three are siblings, and Dafne Keen, Will's daughter, is the niece of Alice Oswald and Laura Beatty.
This all matches up with the Debrett's 2011 pedigree of the Earls Howe, which under descendants of the 6th Earl, gives the full names of all these siblings and their marriages. This firmly- beyond any shadow of a doubt- establishes the identities of all these individuals. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
78.144.70.169 (
talk) 14:09, 19 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Bibliography
I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section:
Cite templates will be used where possible.
Tables may be used to organise short stories, poems and/or book reviews.
I prefer capitalization and punctuation to follow the standard cataloguing rules in
AACR2 and
RDA, rather than "
title case".
Links (either direct or indirect) to potentially unreliable or incomplete digitised copies and to booksellers may be removed.
This is a work in progress; feel free to continue.
Sunwin1960 (
talk) 00:27, 25 June 2023 (UTC)reply