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The authors Namik Volkan and Norman Itzkowitz state in their book "Immortal Ataturk" (ISBN:0226863891) that Ali Riza Efendi is of Turkish origin and that their ancestors are from Aydin region in Turkey.
Moreover, I can't understand why some are insisting that he might be of Albanian origin if Ataturk himself had told numerous times that his ancestors are Yoruk tribes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.131.138.252 ( talk) 10:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Why do various IP users, and others such as User:KadirbeyogluB, keep removing sourced material, and providing no evidence that it should be removed? -- Alchemist Jack ( talk) 21:30, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I cannot find any clear I dea of who or what this group are. Anybody care to elaborate? -- Alchemist Jack ( talk) 10:32, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Falih Rıfkı Atay's Çankaya, p. 17. doesn't mention Ali Rıza's ethnic origin. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 07:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Şevket Süreyya Aydemir's Tek Adam: Mustafa Kemal (Birinci Cilt: 1881 - 1919) doesn't mention Ali Rıza's ethnic origin. Takabeg ( talk) 08:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
The authors Namik Volkan and Norman Itzkowitz state in their book "Immortal Ataturk" (ISBN:0226863891) that Ali Riza Efendi is of Turkish origin and that their ancestors are from Aydin region in Turkey.
Moreover, I can't understand why some are insisting that he might be of Albanian origin if Ataturk himself had told numerous times that his ancestors are Yoruk tribes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.131.138.252 ( talk) 10:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Why do various IP users, and others such as User:KadirbeyogluB, keep removing sourced material, and providing no evidence that it should be removed? -- Alchemist Jack ( talk) 21:30, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I cannot find any clear I dea of who or what this group are. Anybody care to elaborate? -- Alchemist Jack ( talk) 10:32, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Falih Rıfkı Atay's Çankaya, p. 17. doesn't mention Ali Rıza's ethnic origin. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 07:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Şevket Süreyya Aydemir's Tek Adam: Mustafa Kemal (Birinci Cilt: 1881 - 1919) doesn't mention Ali Rıza's ethnic origin. Takabeg ( talk) 08:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC)