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The tone and style of the second paragraph of the "Rise to Power" section does not come off as particularly neutral or professional (e.g. "he has been ruling with an iron hand, killing his opponents, and making sure that all tribes of Yemen are at war with each other, so they don't unite to overthrow him.") Amantgeorge ( talk) 15:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
This page has a lot of errors, is lacking in citations, and it possibly inaccurate in some of its claims and needs to be fixed. -- Rashida25 ( talk) 20:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Ok, that birth year has to be wrong. There's no way he was born in 1903. Worldbound 21:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Most sources give his year of birth as 1942, including Yemeni government websites, so presumably that is the correct date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Whitaker ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
And he can't have been elected president in 1959 -- at the age of 17! Can someone fix that? Manormadman ( talk) 02:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Manormadman
I'm currently writing my master's thesis and doing a lot of research on Salih. This page has TONS of errors and is haphazardly put together. I'm too busy to fix everything, but I suggest someone use Reich's book "Political Leaders of the contemporary middle east and north africa" or Long and Reich's Government and Politics of the middle east (Yemen section written by Gause). I'll fix as much as I can when I finish my thesis (april 21) -ilana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.250.111 ( talk) 14:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Deleted a lot of unreferenced very not neutral statements regarding Saleh. Thirteensenses ( talk) 00:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)Thirteensenses
The CIA spells his name Ali Abdallah Salih [1]. Zigzig20s ( talk) 23:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
There have been unexplained and mysterious deletions since December 14 (and probably many before then, but I don't have the time to go through those) of important content, some of which I have undone. For example: [2], [3], [4], [5]. I have attempted to restore most of this content, especially the large portion that was well-sourced. Wikiacc ( ¶) 20:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
What are the phonetics of Saleh? Tomeasy T C 12:20, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
All Link that led to the President of Yemen article were showing the word Murderer. I have changed this, although I messed up the Wording a little, i.e. "He is the first President of Yemen serving as President of Yemen. I will make the corrections with my personal account within 6 hours if no one else has. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.222.37.57 ( talk) 14:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC) I made my account, and corrected the confusing wording I introduced. TheBBlock ( talk) 15:00, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
The whole page has quite a lot of inaccuracies. This section is misleading and I don't understand why Iran has been singled out. If Yemen's foreign policy needs to be included, its complex relations with Saudi Arabia, the US, EU and the GCC states are much more important. Yemen is not really an "ally" of Iran; the state of relations varies and at times has been quite strained, eg when Yemen hinted that Iran was supporting the Houthi rebels. Only two sources are cited in this section. One is a BBC report which doesn't actually mention Iran. The other source is a publication from Azerbaijan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Whitaker ( talk • contribs) 07:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
I have seen nothing that suggests that Saleh is now the former President of Yemen other than speculation that he may not be allowed to return from Saudi Arabia. He is still in office, with al-Hadi merely "acting" for him. — Sesel ( talk) 14:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
We should revisit this: Saleh's resignation will take effect on 23 December, 30 days after he signed the GCC deal today. But it's unclear whether he plans on returning to Yemen before then, and this 30-day period is likely to see Hadi assuming Saleh's responsibilities as president much as he did while Saleh was incapacitated in Riyadh earlier this year. - Kudzu1 ( talk) 16:56, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Nope. He will be President until by February 21, not December 23. 60.49.63.145 ( talk) 13:36, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
POV tag due to unverified comments and/or personal research; re: "Dictatorship". This appears to be a WMoS violation on living persons. Discuss here before redacting any changes or citation requests, per WMoS. In regards to the recent removal, the additional medical info/comment was redundant and already in article (see section below). GenQuest ( talk) 13:22, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
It is a bad thing that Wikipedia underrepresents the official view of incumbant Yemeni authorities that Saleh is still President. СЛУЖБА ( talk) 23:25, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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Yemen ex-President Saleh killed by Houthis. https://twitter.com/moh_Yfrosi/status/937659176310001671 https://www.facebook.com/100009106630187/videos/vb.100009106630187/1896643487315854/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qrmoo3 ( talk • contribs) 12:35, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
@ MonsterHunter32 and Emir of Wikipedia: What harm do you think that piece of POV would pose to the family of Saleh that his bloody fateful split with the Houthis hadn't already?! Your argument seems far-fetched! -- Expectant of Light ( talk) 19:41, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I'm from Arabic Wikipedia and i want to inform you about a correction that you have to make about his birth date. He was born in 1947 and not 1942. Please check arabic wikipedia for the sources علي عبد الله صالح. Thank you. -- ANiMOP ( talk) 11:18, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Davidbena, أبو تائب, and Emir of Wikipedia:But that the British and Monegasque authorities are not sure, do not we put 1947 and what are the possible dates are also possible? -- Panam2014 ( talk) 15:26, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Davidbena:Yes, the script interests me. What minutes does he talk about? -- Panam2014 ( talk) 15:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Davidbena, أبو تائب, and Emir of Wikipedia: Afash is his mother's name or a nickname ? -- Panam2014 ( talk) 17:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Davidbena, أبو تائب, and Emir of Wikipedia: Do we have any proof that Saleh was at the end of his life from zaydi faith, or is he just coming from a zaydi family and tribe ? -- Panam2014 ( talk) 17:05, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
it's not impossible for some people to say that he is a dictator and others to say he was a moderate. however, I feel it is jarring to see him atributed both in the intro. Perhaps it would be better to attribute who describes as which. Munci ( talk) 19:03, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi, it seems a minor edit conflict is brewing regarding the wording of a sentence in this article. The sentence in question currently reads:
Long considered a moderate president, he oversaw his country's development of deeper ties with Western powers, especially the United States, in its "War on Terror".
Another editor seems to be repeatedly trying to change the phrase "War on Terror" to: "fight against terrorism". It seems that using the official name is more neutral since it does not presume any particular motivations for these actions.
Please comment if you agree/disagree with this reasoning. Thanks! Augurar ( talk) 06:56, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Can someone add more informatiom we need to improve it Billythekidgun ( talk) 13:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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The tone and style of the second paragraph of the "Rise to Power" section does not come off as particularly neutral or professional (e.g. "he has been ruling with an iron hand, killing his opponents, and making sure that all tribes of Yemen are at war with each other, so they don't unite to overthrow him.") Amantgeorge ( talk) 15:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
This page has a lot of errors, is lacking in citations, and it possibly inaccurate in some of its claims and needs to be fixed. -- Rashida25 ( talk) 20:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Ok, that birth year has to be wrong. There's no way he was born in 1903. Worldbound 21:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Most sources give his year of birth as 1942, including Yemeni government websites, so presumably that is the correct date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Whitaker ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
And he can't have been elected president in 1959 -- at the age of 17! Can someone fix that? Manormadman ( talk) 02:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Manormadman
I'm currently writing my master's thesis and doing a lot of research on Salih. This page has TONS of errors and is haphazardly put together. I'm too busy to fix everything, but I suggest someone use Reich's book "Political Leaders of the contemporary middle east and north africa" or Long and Reich's Government and Politics of the middle east (Yemen section written by Gause). I'll fix as much as I can when I finish my thesis (april 21) -ilana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.250.111 ( talk) 14:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Deleted a lot of unreferenced very not neutral statements regarding Saleh. Thirteensenses ( talk) 00:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)Thirteensenses
The CIA spells his name Ali Abdallah Salih [1]. Zigzig20s ( talk) 23:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
There have been unexplained and mysterious deletions since December 14 (and probably many before then, but I don't have the time to go through those) of important content, some of which I have undone. For example: [2], [3], [4], [5]. I have attempted to restore most of this content, especially the large portion that was well-sourced. Wikiacc ( ¶) 20:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
What are the phonetics of Saleh? Tomeasy T C 12:20, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
All Link that led to the President of Yemen article were showing the word Murderer. I have changed this, although I messed up the Wording a little, i.e. "He is the first President of Yemen serving as President of Yemen. I will make the corrections with my personal account within 6 hours if no one else has. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.222.37.57 ( talk) 14:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC) I made my account, and corrected the confusing wording I introduced. TheBBlock ( talk) 15:00, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
The whole page has quite a lot of inaccuracies. This section is misleading and I don't understand why Iran has been singled out. If Yemen's foreign policy needs to be included, its complex relations with Saudi Arabia, the US, EU and the GCC states are much more important. Yemen is not really an "ally" of Iran; the state of relations varies and at times has been quite strained, eg when Yemen hinted that Iran was supporting the Houthi rebels. Only two sources are cited in this section. One is a BBC report which doesn't actually mention Iran. The other source is a publication from Azerbaijan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Whitaker ( talk • contribs) 07:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
I have seen nothing that suggests that Saleh is now the former President of Yemen other than speculation that he may not be allowed to return from Saudi Arabia. He is still in office, with al-Hadi merely "acting" for him. — Sesel ( talk) 14:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
We should revisit this: Saleh's resignation will take effect on 23 December, 30 days after he signed the GCC deal today. But it's unclear whether he plans on returning to Yemen before then, and this 30-day period is likely to see Hadi assuming Saleh's responsibilities as president much as he did while Saleh was incapacitated in Riyadh earlier this year. - Kudzu1 ( talk) 16:56, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Nope. He will be President until by February 21, not December 23. 60.49.63.145 ( talk) 13:36, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
POV tag due to unverified comments and/or personal research; re: "Dictatorship". This appears to be a WMoS violation on living persons. Discuss here before redacting any changes or citation requests, per WMoS. In regards to the recent removal, the additional medical info/comment was redundant and already in article (see section below). GenQuest ( talk) 13:22, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
It is a bad thing that Wikipedia underrepresents the official view of incumbant Yemeni authorities that Saleh is still President. СЛУЖБА ( talk) 23:25, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Ali Abdullah Saleh/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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Yemen ex-President Saleh killed by Houthis. https://twitter.com/moh_Yfrosi/status/937659176310001671 https://www.facebook.com/100009106630187/videos/vb.100009106630187/1896643487315854/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qrmoo3 ( talk • contribs) 12:35, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
@ MonsterHunter32 and Emir of Wikipedia: What harm do you think that piece of POV would pose to the family of Saleh that his bloody fateful split with the Houthis hadn't already?! Your argument seems far-fetched! -- Expectant of Light ( talk) 19:41, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I'm from Arabic Wikipedia and i want to inform you about a correction that you have to make about his birth date. He was born in 1947 and not 1942. Please check arabic wikipedia for the sources علي عبد الله صالح. Thank you. -- ANiMOP ( talk) 11:18, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Davidbena, أبو تائب, and Emir of Wikipedia:But that the British and Monegasque authorities are not sure, do not we put 1947 and what are the possible dates are also possible? -- Panam2014 ( talk) 15:26, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Davidbena:Yes, the script interests me. What minutes does he talk about? -- Panam2014 ( talk) 15:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Davidbena, أبو تائب, and Emir of Wikipedia: Afash is his mother's name or a nickname ? -- Panam2014 ( talk) 17:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Davidbena, أبو تائب, and Emir of Wikipedia: Do we have any proof that Saleh was at the end of his life from zaydi faith, or is he just coming from a zaydi family and tribe ? -- Panam2014 ( talk) 17:05, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
it's not impossible for some people to say that he is a dictator and others to say he was a moderate. however, I feel it is jarring to see him atributed both in the intro. Perhaps it would be better to attribute who describes as which. Munci ( talk) 19:03, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi, it seems a minor edit conflict is brewing regarding the wording of a sentence in this article. The sentence in question currently reads:
Long considered a moderate president, he oversaw his country's development of deeper ties with Western powers, especially the United States, in its "War on Terror".
Another editor seems to be repeatedly trying to change the phrase "War on Terror" to: "fight against terrorism". It seems that using the official name is more neutral since it does not presume any particular motivations for these actions.
Please comment if you agree/disagree with this reasoning. Thanks! Augurar ( talk) 06:56, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Can someone add more informatiom we need to improve it Billythekidgun ( talk) 13:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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