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It has been reported on television news reports that his VC was Auctioned 24/July/06 for $A1,000,000. Gnangarra 14:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
There has been an allegation of copyright vio in this article, Can we discuss here. Albatross2147 23:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
There is some confusion as to whether they should appear on the Australian or New Zealand list. They should appear on both lists. Wallie ( talk) 10:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Alfred Shout was in the Border Horse, a Sergeant, No 9216, which he would have joined in South Africa, one of the South African “irregular units”; there is no such unit as the “New Zealand Border Horse” as the New Zealand contingents were called (imaginatively) the First Conntingent etc. And the postwar Artillery unit he joined was also South African, not part of the British Army. Hugo999 ( talk) 13:19, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
The article gives 8 August 1882 based on his WWI application of 28 August 1914 for an AIF Commission (which says re South Africa just "Border Horse". But the Auckland War Memorial Museum Cenotaph database Cenotaph database page has 7 August 1881, as does the online Registrar-General website Search page. As the Registrar-General has the actual birth registration I propose to use that. Hugo999 ( talk) 14:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC) Note from article page: There is discrepancy among the sources regarding Shout's date of birth. Higgins 1988 , in Shout's Australian Dictionary of Biography entry, states it to be 7 August 1881. Staunton 2005, p. 37 also gives 7 August, though lists the year to have been 1882. Shout's Australian service record, however, records it to be 8 August 1882, which is the date given in Arthur 2005, p. 677 , Bean 1941a, p. 295 , and Snelling 1995, p. 178 . As the service record is an official government file and the majority of scholars record the date it gives, 8 August 1882 is the date used in this article.(29 July 2013)
Archives New Zealand says after 1891 Shout attended school in Newman (two miles north of Eketahuna would be more accurate though that is north of Masterton). Papers Past shows us his mother's offered for sale dairy farm of 97.5 acres in May 1901. His father appears to have been a caterer by profession (suffering at least two bankruptcies in Wellington) later holding contracts for Wairarapa's many race meeting venues and the like. He is fined for failing to send his children to school. Eddaido ( talk) 04:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Dear User:LILNAZZX, on your edit on Alfred Shout, you entered that his death place was off Gallipoli, Ottoman Turkey. How do you mean? Where is your reference? Kindly drop a response below and put four tildes (~) to sign.
Danidamiobi ( talk) 02:19, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Abraham, B.S., the VC in lede was changed to link to Victoria Cross for Australia? JennyOz ( talk) 13:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
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It has been reported on television news reports that his VC was Auctioned 24/July/06 for $A1,000,000. Gnangarra 14:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
There has been an allegation of copyright vio in this article, Can we discuss here. Albatross2147 23:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
There is some confusion as to whether they should appear on the Australian or New Zealand list. They should appear on both lists. Wallie ( talk) 10:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Alfred Shout was in the Border Horse, a Sergeant, No 9216, which he would have joined in South Africa, one of the South African “irregular units”; there is no such unit as the “New Zealand Border Horse” as the New Zealand contingents were called (imaginatively) the First Conntingent etc. And the postwar Artillery unit he joined was also South African, not part of the British Army. Hugo999 ( talk) 13:19, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
The article gives 8 August 1882 based on his WWI application of 28 August 1914 for an AIF Commission (which says re South Africa just "Border Horse". But the Auckland War Memorial Museum Cenotaph database Cenotaph database page has 7 August 1881, as does the online Registrar-General website Search page. As the Registrar-General has the actual birth registration I propose to use that. Hugo999 ( talk) 14:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC) Note from article page: There is discrepancy among the sources regarding Shout's date of birth. Higgins 1988 , in Shout's Australian Dictionary of Biography entry, states it to be 7 August 1881. Staunton 2005, p. 37 also gives 7 August, though lists the year to have been 1882. Shout's Australian service record, however, records it to be 8 August 1882, which is the date given in Arthur 2005, p. 677 , Bean 1941a, p. 295 , and Snelling 1995, p. 178 . As the service record is an official government file and the majority of scholars record the date it gives, 8 August 1882 is the date used in this article.(29 July 2013)
Archives New Zealand says after 1891 Shout attended school in Newman (two miles north of Eketahuna would be more accurate though that is north of Masterton). Papers Past shows us his mother's offered for sale dairy farm of 97.5 acres in May 1901. His father appears to have been a caterer by profession (suffering at least two bankruptcies in Wellington) later holding contracts for Wairarapa's many race meeting venues and the like. He is fined for failing to send his children to school. Eddaido ( talk) 04:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Dear User:LILNAZZX, on your edit on Alfred Shout, you entered that his death place was off Gallipoli, Ottoman Turkey. How do you mean? Where is your reference? Kindly drop a response below and put four tildes (~) to sign.
Danidamiobi ( talk) 02:19, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Abraham, B.S., the VC in lede was changed to link to Victoria Cross for Australia? JennyOz ( talk) 13:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)