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Wondering if "megalomania" might not be a bit POV -- was Northcliffe so diagnosed, or did he just act that way? Either wouldn't surprise me, but more information here would help if anyone has it. -- Madame Sosostris 08:14, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
For years, it was rumoured that he died of syphilis. But apparently it was another disease with similar symptoms. 86.145.152.144 ( talk) 23:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
The rumours of syphilis are substantial, and quite possibly correct. His subacute bacterial endocarditis may have been a cover up. Korhomme ( talk) 17:09, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
The citation of the ODNB source here is utterly spurious; this article is in fact a thinly disguised and plagaristic and plagaristic rewrite of the Encyclopædia Britannica article on the same subject (See http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9056243?tocId=9056243)
The EB goes "In 1894 Harmsworth entered the newspaper field, purchasing the nearly bankrupt London Evening News and transforming it into a popular newspaper with brief news reports, a daily story, and a column for women. Within a year circulation had grown to 160,000 copies, and profits were substantial."
The Wiki version goes "Harmsworth turned to daily newspapers in 1894 when he purchased the nearly bankrupt London Evening News and turned it into a popular paper with brief news reports, a daily story, and a column for women. In just one year, the circulation grew to over 160,000 copies and returned a huge profit."
etc etc
Antithief 10:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
nowhere does it state anything about him having children or a wife??-- 74.236.38.178 02:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I have removed POV. It is not up to me to look for citations the original poster says (in his words) he is "too lazy" to look up himself. Also removed more POV, including weasel words ("some say"). The prohibition against POV is POLICY, not a guideline or suggestion. THis article is riddled with POV and badly needs cleanup. The editing on the opening paragraph is just a beginning. The poster is also reminded of the Three Reverts policy, which provides for banning. J M Rice ( talk) 06:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Additional information: His nephew, 15-year-old Alfred White Curzon King, died in the sinking of the RMS Leinster in the Irish Sea in 1918. Just in case someone cares about that. OfficeBoy ( talk) 17:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
You mention that he sired a son at seventeen by a 'maidservant in his parents' house'. Were they living in England or Ireland at this time? Do we know anything more about his parents? Valetude ( talk) 12:43, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Northcliffe's drive for success and respectability bounded main outlet in the commercial world of journalism.
His death is usually ascribed to subacute bacterial endocarditis.
There is strong evidence, if perhaps circumstantial, that this was a result of syphilis. One of his many physicians, Lord Horder, thought he was beyond 'malarial treatment'. This was only given to sufferers of syphilis. The SBE is cited as a cover-up.
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Wondering if "megalomania" might not be a bit POV -- was Northcliffe so diagnosed, or did he just act that way? Either wouldn't surprise me, but more information here would help if anyone has it. -- Madame Sosostris 08:14, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
For years, it was rumoured that he died of syphilis. But apparently it was another disease with similar symptoms. 86.145.152.144 ( talk) 23:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
The rumours of syphilis are substantial, and quite possibly correct. His subacute bacterial endocarditis may have been a cover up. Korhomme ( talk) 17:09, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
The citation of the ODNB source here is utterly spurious; this article is in fact a thinly disguised and plagaristic and plagaristic rewrite of the Encyclopædia Britannica article on the same subject (See http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9056243?tocId=9056243)
The EB goes "In 1894 Harmsworth entered the newspaper field, purchasing the nearly bankrupt London Evening News and transforming it into a popular newspaper with brief news reports, a daily story, and a column for women. Within a year circulation had grown to 160,000 copies, and profits were substantial."
The Wiki version goes "Harmsworth turned to daily newspapers in 1894 when he purchased the nearly bankrupt London Evening News and turned it into a popular paper with brief news reports, a daily story, and a column for women. In just one year, the circulation grew to over 160,000 copies and returned a huge profit."
etc etc
Antithief 10:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
nowhere does it state anything about him having children or a wife??-- 74.236.38.178 02:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I have removed POV. It is not up to me to look for citations the original poster says (in his words) he is "too lazy" to look up himself. Also removed more POV, including weasel words ("some say"). The prohibition against POV is POLICY, not a guideline or suggestion. THis article is riddled with POV and badly needs cleanup. The editing on the opening paragraph is just a beginning. The poster is also reminded of the Three Reverts policy, which provides for banning. J M Rice ( talk) 06:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Additional information: His nephew, 15-year-old Alfred White Curzon King, died in the sinking of the RMS Leinster in the Irish Sea in 1918. Just in case someone cares about that. OfficeBoy ( talk) 17:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
You mention that he sired a son at seventeen by a 'maidservant in his parents' house'. Were they living in England or Ireland at this time? Do we know anything more about his parents? Valetude ( talk) 12:43, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Northcliffe's drive for success and respectability bounded main outlet in the commercial world of journalism.
His death is usually ascribed to subacute bacterial endocarditis.
There is strong evidence, if perhaps circumstantial, that this was a result of syphilis. One of his many physicians, Lord Horder, thought he was beyond 'malarial treatment'. This was only given to sufferers of syphilis. The SBE is cited as a cover-up.