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Apart from the last bit about bloodlines, the whole "western estoric" section is without references, which I've tagged. The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail will not be acceptable as a reliable source for this supposedly historical information, as it is pseudohistory. Is there another source? Ryan Paddy ( talk) 21:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I've edited the section to make it clear that it is all, at present, sourced from The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. I've also edited it down to just what's relevant to the river. Ryan Paddy ( talk) 23:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Why on earth is this article named "Alfeios"? Alpheios, which correctly reflects the Greek spelling, is by far the most common form in references (as you can see by searching Google Books), and it should be the entry form here. Languagehat ( talk) 20:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid it's only going to mystify people further to spell a name like this with "f" – one sees the formal reason, but "ph" is so well established (in Wikipedia as elsewhere) that it just comes across as weird and a bit provocative, very similar to George Bernard Shaw's failed spelling reforms (nor do I notice the modern Greeks abandoning the use of η and υ on the grounds that ι is quite sufficient): these things are just conventions, and there is a very clear convention in the English language. We do not write "New York" as "Noo York", "Moscow" as "Moskva" or "Finland" as "Suomi". This article certainly needs to be retitled. Deipnosophista ( talk) 15:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
A wide range of catchment areas of the Alfeios are given in this article, with the most outlying figure being the 868.6 km2 added on 4 June 2021 by @ Botteville, based on this article by Skoulikidis et al.. If I read this Skoulikidis article correctly, the 868.6 km2 (nr. 32 in the table at page 214) refers to the catchment area of the Alfeios at Karytaina, on 307 m elevation, see the legend of figure 1 on page 207. So that's upstream from the Alfeios's major tributaries Lousios, Ladon and Erymanthos. The number I found for the complete catchment area in this report, page 38 is 3810 km2. If you agree, let's update the article accordingly. Markussep Talk 13:17, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
my copy of the Britannica (1993) says that is the longest, not the largest of the Peloponnesus as stated in the text. Of course, I am italian and my undestanding that longest and largest are not synonymous may be wrong.
If you are interested, I may copy here some curious info from two books of 1850-1910 (Lubker, Lessico Classico and Wmith, Cyclopedia). 151.29.133.9 ( talk) 14:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
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Apart from the last bit about bloodlines, the whole "western estoric" section is without references, which I've tagged. The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail will not be acceptable as a reliable source for this supposedly historical information, as it is pseudohistory. Is there another source? Ryan Paddy ( talk) 21:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I've edited the section to make it clear that it is all, at present, sourced from The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. I've also edited it down to just what's relevant to the river. Ryan Paddy ( talk) 23:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Why on earth is this article named "Alfeios"? Alpheios, which correctly reflects the Greek spelling, is by far the most common form in references (as you can see by searching Google Books), and it should be the entry form here. Languagehat ( talk) 20:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid it's only going to mystify people further to spell a name like this with "f" – one sees the formal reason, but "ph" is so well established (in Wikipedia as elsewhere) that it just comes across as weird and a bit provocative, very similar to George Bernard Shaw's failed spelling reforms (nor do I notice the modern Greeks abandoning the use of η and υ on the grounds that ι is quite sufficient): these things are just conventions, and there is a very clear convention in the English language. We do not write "New York" as "Noo York", "Moscow" as "Moskva" or "Finland" as "Suomi". This article certainly needs to be retitled. Deipnosophista ( talk) 15:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
A wide range of catchment areas of the Alfeios are given in this article, with the most outlying figure being the 868.6 km2 added on 4 June 2021 by @ Botteville, based on this article by Skoulikidis et al.. If I read this Skoulikidis article correctly, the 868.6 km2 (nr. 32 in the table at page 214) refers to the catchment area of the Alfeios at Karytaina, on 307 m elevation, see the legend of figure 1 on page 207. So that's upstream from the Alfeios's major tributaries Lousios, Ladon and Erymanthos. The number I found for the complete catchment area in this report, page 38 is 3810 km2. If you agree, let's update the article accordingly. Markussep Talk 13:17, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
my copy of the Britannica (1993) says that is the longest, not the largest of the Peloponnesus as stated in the text. Of course, I am italian and my undestanding that longest and largest are not synonymous may be wrong.
If you are interested, I may copy here some curious info from two books of 1850-1910 (Lubker, Lessico Classico and Wmith, Cyclopedia). 151.29.133.9 ( talk) 14:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)