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I am rather new to this (Wikipedia and History!), but I thought I should mention the fact that the "Later Life and Family" section is lacking a citation for the second paragraph. I am just wondering where this information regarding Alexanders marriage, post-marriage moves and death came from? Have a wonderful day everyone :) BiancaTrentU ( talk) 17:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC. Hi this is so im yrestin)
The "K" in MacKenzie ought to be capitalised.
I've removed "(unfortunately including an erroneous capital K in his last name)" because it implies the later inscribers were the ones that introduced the capital K, not Mackenzie himself. The sources I've seen do not say who spelled it with a capital K. - kotra ( talk) 21:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there any objection to correcting the misspelling of this fellow's name in the article title? I see that in most places in the article it is correctly spelled with a lower case "k" as it is in the Canadian Biography online. I suspect it has been left partly because there is another Alexander Mackenzie and because the surveyors who carved the message in the rock got it wrong. I have corresponded with the folks at BCGNIS and they agree that Sir Alexander Mackenzie Provincial Park is properly spelled with a lower case k. Morton (see footnote 2) also spells it with a lower case k. -- KenWalker | Talk 20:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I was reading Lewis by Donald Macdonald and it says Alexander Mackenzie crossed in 1774 aged 12 giving a date of birth of 1761/2, googling for Alexander Mackenzie a few pages record his DOB as 1762?
i am trying to find the explorer, NOT the prime minsiter. or are they both?
In Alexander Mackenzie it says the end of his westward journey was at South Bentinck Arm for which there is no article. Dean Channel and North Bentinck Arm say it was at North Bentinck Arm. Is there a source that resolves this? -- KenWalker | Talk 11:10, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
It is an insult to aboriginal/First Nations people of the world when it is stated that explorers "discovered" such-and-such a place. There are very few places that white Europeans actually discovered. What they did is simply stumble upon already-inhabited areas. I'd like to see the reference to "discovered" changed in this and other exploration articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.202.119.246 ( talk) 18:02, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I've edited out "by a European" in the "first person to cross" sentence, because no proof was presented that a non-European had previously crossed the continent north of Mexico. Also I edited Cabeza de Vaca out of that sentence because his crossing did conclude in Mexico.
As a note to future editors, I would hope Cabeza de Vaca's name will remain in this article as his story is truly amazing & people should be able to link to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.71.155.123 ( talk) 17:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC) 76.102.218.69 ( talk) 22:19, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Then the main article for Cabeza de Baca should be edited, as it currently shows him reaching the Pacific coast. If the Cabeza de Baca article is accurate, it would be appropriate that he again be mentioned in the Mackenzie one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.15.207 ( talk) 04:13, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
The article says that the message left on the rock at Dean's Channel read ""Alexander Mackenzie from Canada, by land, the twenty-second of July, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-three!" yet the picture reads as "Alexander Mackenzie from Canada, by land, 22d July, 1793". The article mentions that later surveyors permanantly engraved this message on the rock; did they change the date format when they did the engraving or is this an error in the article? Wkharrisjr ( talk) 20:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Apart from the fact that it is rather unclear how he got to the Mackenzie river in the first place (since he was at Lake Athabasca, but the river starts at the Great Slave Lake instead), the dates for this trip are suspect: according to the article he got in his canoe on July 10, presumably near the source of the river, and arrived at the river's mouth 4 days later. That is not possible: the Mackenzie river is 1000 miles long, and very slow flowing. No clear reference for this amazing feat is given. (Compare: http://www.canoenorth.ca/content/self-guided-trips-mackenzie-river-deh-cho quotes 4-7 weeks for this trip with modern equipment.) 2602:306:CEAE:E60:EC00:E4E2:4D3E:7E11 ( talk) 08:40, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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I see this article has both spelling tags. The use UK English is dated 2014. The use US one is dated 2019. Looking back through the history, UK English was used first. Besides that, there's no reason this bio should use US English. I will clean up MOS:VAR. Masterhatch ( talk) 19:08, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
To clarify what has become an edit battle without actually resorting to Venn diagrams: we don't know whether anyone, such as an indigenous person, crossed the entire continent before Alexander Mackenzie did so. It would be incorrect to state that he was the first ever to have done so. Thus it is reasonable to state that he was the first European to do so. (This presumes that if any European had done so before, then the fact would have been recorded and would be known today, but that seems unlikely enough to ignore.) Sminthopsis84 ( talk) 01:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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I am rather new to this (Wikipedia and History!), but I thought I should mention the fact that the "Later Life and Family" section is lacking a citation for the second paragraph. I am just wondering where this information regarding Alexanders marriage, post-marriage moves and death came from? Have a wonderful day everyone :) BiancaTrentU ( talk) 17:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC. Hi this is so im yrestin)
The "K" in MacKenzie ought to be capitalised.
I've removed "(unfortunately including an erroneous capital K in his last name)" because it implies the later inscribers were the ones that introduced the capital K, not Mackenzie himself. The sources I've seen do not say who spelled it with a capital K. - kotra ( talk) 21:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there any objection to correcting the misspelling of this fellow's name in the article title? I see that in most places in the article it is correctly spelled with a lower case "k" as it is in the Canadian Biography online. I suspect it has been left partly because there is another Alexander Mackenzie and because the surveyors who carved the message in the rock got it wrong. I have corresponded with the folks at BCGNIS and they agree that Sir Alexander Mackenzie Provincial Park is properly spelled with a lower case k. Morton (see footnote 2) also spells it with a lower case k. -- KenWalker | Talk 20:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I was reading Lewis by Donald Macdonald and it says Alexander Mackenzie crossed in 1774 aged 12 giving a date of birth of 1761/2, googling for Alexander Mackenzie a few pages record his DOB as 1762?
i am trying to find the explorer, NOT the prime minsiter. or are they both?
In Alexander Mackenzie it says the end of his westward journey was at South Bentinck Arm for which there is no article. Dean Channel and North Bentinck Arm say it was at North Bentinck Arm. Is there a source that resolves this? -- KenWalker | Talk 11:10, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
It is an insult to aboriginal/First Nations people of the world when it is stated that explorers "discovered" such-and-such a place. There are very few places that white Europeans actually discovered. What they did is simply stumble upon already-inhabited areas. I'd like to see the reference to "discovered" changed in this and other exploration articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.202.119.246 ( talk) 18:02, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I've edited out "by a European" in the "first person to cross" sentence, because no proof was presented that a non-European had previously crossed the continent north of Mexico. Also I edited Cabeza de Vaca out of that sentence because his crossing did conclude in Mexico.
As a note to future editors, I would hope Cabeza de Vaca's name will remain in this article as his story is truly amazing & people should be able to link to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.71.155.123 ( talk) 17:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC) 76.102.218.69 ( talk) 22:19, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Then the main article for Cabeza de Baca should be edited, as it currently shows him reaching the Pacific coast. If the Cabeza de Baca article is accurate, it would be appropriate that he again be mentioned in the Mackenzie one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.15.207 ( talk) 04:13, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
The article says that the message left on the rock at Dean's Channel read ""Alexander Mackenzie from Canada, by land, the twenty-second of July, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-three!" yet the picture reads as "Alexander Mackenzie from Canada, by land, 22d July, 1793". The article mentions that later surveyors permanantly engraved this message on the rock; did they change the date format when they did the engraving or is this an error in the article? Wkharrisjr ( talk) 20:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Apart from the fact that it is rather unclear how he got to the Mackenzie river in the first place (since he was at Lake Athabasca, but the river starts at the Great Slave Lake instead), the dates for this trip are suspect: according to the article he got in his canoe on July 10, presumably near the source of the river, and arrived at the river's mouth 4 days later. That is not possible: the Mackenzie river is 1000 miles long, and very slow flowing. No clear reference for this amazing feat is given. (Compare: http://www.canoenorth.ca/content/self-guided-trips-mackenzie-river-deh-cho quotes 4-7 weeks for this trip with modern equipment.) 2602:306:CEAE:E60:EC00:E4E2:4D3E:7E11 ( talk) 08:40, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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I see this article has both spelling tags. The use UK English is dated 2014. The use US one is dated 2019. Looking back through the history, UK English was used first. Besides that, there's no reason this bio should use US English. I will clean up MOS:VAR. Masterhatch ( talk) 19:08, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
To clarify what has become an edit battle without actually resorting to Venn diagrams: we don't know whether anyone, such as an indigenous person, crossed the entire continent before Alexander Mackenzie did so. It would be incorrect to state that he was the first ever to have done so. Thus it is reasonable to state that he was the first European to do so. (This presumes that if any European had done so before, then the fact would have been recorded and would be known today, but that seems unlikely enough to ignore.) Sminthopsis84 ( talk) 01:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)