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/info/en/?search=Alex_J._Lasry the version you have just reverted, you say those sources failed verifrcation even though they are from credible medias and this time I just use as much as original sentence as possible. Geeky1127 ( talk) 04:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
In a 2020 interview, he stated that he had only previously been to Wisconsin once before: “When I came here I think what most surprised me about Milwaukee is the fact that Milwaukee has all of the same things that any other city, especially any other big city, has.”- This sentence is sourced to one or two sentences that Lasry says in a 30 minute interview. Since it's coming from a primary source, and not being reported on as a secondary source, I don't see how it is significant enough to include in an encyclopedic biography - it feels like it's giving undue weight to a comment he made.
His campaign is mainly funded by Wall Street and sports teams.The source you used does not mention he was "mainly funded" - it just says he had funding from "sports, entertainment and Wall Street." The other sources don't seem to support that sentence either.
...despite the fact that his father Marc Lasry want Republican Party to win Senate- As far as I can tell, the source doesn't even mention Alex Lasry, only his father, so I don't think it has a place in a section about Alex Lasry's career. When I said "editorializing" in my edit summary, this was one of the examples I meant, because it's considered editorializing to combine two sentences together with a phrase like "despite the fact" when the source doesn't make that comparison/conclusion itself.
Before his announcement, he just cutted in line to get early COVID vaccine and showed it off on social media though later he said he was just lucky and the shots would have gone to waste if he didn't use it. On the other hand, 94% of Wisconsinites were still waiting for vaccines at that time.- This sentence isn't worded neutrally, and I'm not sure if it was reported on widely enough to give it due weight to be included (I haven't checked though). Either way, the article source doesn't say he "cut in line" or "showed it off" on social media, so it would at least need to be rewritten.
Although he claimed that he supports Black Lives Matter, he locked up NBA players in Bucks team to stop them from not playing playoff games and join the BLM protest when the Jacob Black protest broke out.I don't see the source saying he locked up NBA players to stop them from not playing and joining a BLM protest? I have no idea where this sentence is coming from.
and George Hill, who was in Bucks and led that protest then, blame Lasry for trading him away because of that.- Lasry isn't mentioned in the source, and I don't see the article saying he "blamed" the trade on the protest, just that he prepared himself for that possible outcome.
In a 2020 interview, he stated that he had only previously been to Wisconsin once before: “When I came here I think what most surprised me about Milwaukee is the fact that Milwaukee has all of the same things that any other city, especially any other big city, has.”- This sentence is sourced to one or two sentences that Lasry says in a 30 minute interview. Since it's coming from a primary source, and not being reported on as a secondary source, I don't see how it is significant enough to include in an encyclopedic biography - it feels like it's giving undue weight to a comment he made." It is right, I accept it.
His campaign is mainly funded by Wall Street and sports teams." In other it listed how much his funding is from these grous and instead of just "mainly" i will use the concrete number in this source instead.
...despite the fact that his father Marc Lasry want Republican Party to win Senate" This sentence should not belong to "Alex Lasry" so I won't undelete it.
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I think the scandals and political positions are either from credible source or directly from his own campaign video. And I just fully use the sentences of original sources as much as possible. So I think I follows the rules, If you think it isn't, instead of just deleting please change into what you think obeys the rule. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geeky1127 ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
There are only 2 people who keep deleting it,one only edit this page and another who only deleted once is a fan of bucks, His basketball team. So I don't think anyone without interest connection is unsatisfied with those part. Bisides since you are not satisfied you can fix it by your self. No one know why you think this part has error better than you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geeky1127 ( talk • contribs)
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/33-year-bucks-exec-alex-lasry-covid-vaccine-75565955
https://www.wpr.org/bucks-exec-alex-lasry-says-he-jumped-vaccination-line-pure-happenstance I think as to his vaccine scandal there are much more news report than 2 so it should be kept as what it was. Geeky1127 ( talk) 20:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, Instagram, Reddit, IMDb, Ancestry.com, Find a Grave, and ODMP. It do not have youtube, Geeky1127 ( talk) 20:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Whisperjanes Anubus2013 is just vandalize by deleting everything even if they meet the staandard.
@whisperjane @asdasdasdff anubus2013 is just an account inly focus pn vamdalizing contents about alex lasry, need to do something. Geeky1127 ( talk) 15:59, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
@whisperjane I think what his contribution is when he serve as senior vice president and manage private/public partnership to triple Buck's worth should be included. I originally think it is Down by Manager Fagin. Howeever the article provided by anubus2013----who deleete it, just prove he is the one who manage it thus thosee should be included as his career accomplishment Firstly, @anubus2013 himself is not an normal account that never edit any article other than vandalizonng contents about lasry. and his own link https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/06/10/senate-race-lasry-campaign- shown that he is managing the team during his tenure, so all the contents you deleete is linked to Lasry and his contribution.Besides in https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2018/05/31/milwaukee-bucks-have-named-good-city-brewing-their-first-tenant/644871002/ it mentions "Built with $250 million in taxpayer support" without the content you delete just because that vandalizing account delete, Where that 250 million come from, which is the public/private partnership, is not shown. If you can't understand, Let me show you in this way: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/02/16/bucks-executive-alex-lasry-enters-u-s-senate-race-wisconsin/6769241002/ in this link it shows Lasry serve sa senior vice president of milwaukee bucks, https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/7641938002?__twitter_impression=true in this link it shows Alex Lasry on that position is running this team. Thus how Bucks team get this funding and triple its worth during his tenure, should be part of his career contribution and get included in "career" section. SInce you think it do not belong to it, I do not add it back by myself, but i'd recommend you to add it back in a way you think is proper.
It is his own twitter, which is his own speech that shows his own meaning!is something, it didn't address any of the issues I pointed out in my edit summary. So I'll repeat it here again, since I'm tired of the edit warring. The tweet does not verify anything in the sentence preceding it (the sentence itself doesn't even mention the tweet). And there is already more independent sourcing referenced. Why this explanation wasn't convincing in the first place, I have no idea. But in addition to that, Twitter is generally an unreliable source per WP:RSPTWITTER. - Whisperjanes ( talk) 00:19, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, there has been 5 source, no need to add the tweet. Geeky1127 ( talk) 00:50, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
For now, I've removed the section on the Fiserv Forum labor agreement. [1] I have no issue if someone wants to rewrite it neutrally, if they can find adequate sourcing. But the current sources are lacking, and at this point, the paragraph is basically unsourced and contains promotional phrasing and marketingese.
The first source only says he announced the agreement, [2] the second only has a quote from Lasry saying he was "part of [the] development agreement", [3], and the third say he presented a briefing. [4] None of those sources support what was written in the article. The final sentence doesn't mention Lasry, and it doesn't seem like it would make sense without the previous sentences for context anyways. Feel free to point out if I missed something - but as of now, it seems like that section is WP:OR. - Whisperjanes ( talk) 05:51, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Since there is someone who keep adding POV sing without initiaking any discussion, I initiate this talk page to let those who add it talk about this Article's neutrality— Preceding unsigned comment added by Madisonsocdem ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Note Both accounts involved have been banned as sock-puppets of Geeky1127. The good hand-bad hand editing was cute. Slywriter ( talk) 12:51, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Recently many many sockpuppets of User:Geeky1127 keep add a paragraph about bucks deal that is written in a biased way to this page. I agree with the decision to delete it since it is obviously pushing for an agenda instear od writing encyclopedia, However, there are a lotov media coverage that shows he helped to negociate in the deal on becalf bucks. https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2017/10/26/bucks-believe-their-15-wage-goal-can-be-model.html https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/06/10/senate-race-lasry-campaign-clarifies-15-wage-claim-fiserv-forum/7641938002/ and https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2019/11/20/eyes-on-milwaukee-bucks-beat-hiring-targets-on-fiserv-forum/#google_vignette so I think it may need to be addd back n a neutral way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Energyequalstomc2 ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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/info/en/?search=Alex_J._Lasry the version you have just reverted, you say those sources failed verifrcation even though they are from credible medias and this time I just use as much as original sentence as possible. Geeky1127 ( talk) 04:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
In a 2020 interview, he stated that he had only previously been to Wisconsin once before: “When I came here I think what most surprised me about Milwaukee is the fact that Milwaukee has all of the same things that any other city, especially any other big city, has.”- This sentence is sourced to one or two sentences that Lasry says in a 30 minute interview. Since it's coming from a primary source, and not being reported on as a secondary source, I don't see how it is significant enough to include in an encyclopedic biography - it feels like it's giving undue weight to a comment he made.
His campaign is mainly funded by Wall Street and sports teams.The source you used does not mention he was "mainly funded" - it just says he had funding from "sports, entertainment and Wall Street." The other sources don't seem to support that sentence either.
...despite the fact that his father Marc Lasry want Republican Party to win Senate- As far as I can tell, the source doesn't even mention Alex Lasry, only his father, so I don't think it has a place in a section about Alex Lasry's career. When I said "editorializing" in my edit summary, this was one of the examples I meant, because it's considered editorializing to combine two sentences together with a phrase like "despite the fact" when the source doesn't make that comparison/conclusion itself.
Before his announcement, he just cutted in line to get early COVID vaccine and showed it off on social media though later he said he was just lucky and the shots would have gone to waste if he didn't use it. On the other hand, 94% of Wisconsinites were still waiting for vaccines at that time.- This sentence isn't worded neutrally, and I'm not sure if it was reported on widely enough to give it due weight to be included (I haven't checked though). Either way, the article source doesn't say he "cut in line" or "showed it off" on social media, so it would at least need to be rewritten.
Although he claimed that he supports Black Lives Matter, he locked up NBA players in Bucks team to stop them from not playing playoff games and join the BLM protest when the Jacob Black protest broke out.I don't see the source saying he locked up NBA players to stop them from not playing and joining a BLM protest? I have no idea where this sentence is coming from.
and George Hill, who was in Bucks and led that protest then, blame Lasry for trading him away because of that.- Lasry isn't mentioned in the source, and I don't see the article saying he "blamed" the trade on the protest, just that he prepared himself for that possible outcome.
In a 2020 interview, he stated that he had only previously been to Wisconsin once before: “When I came here I think what most surprised me about Milwaukee is the fact that Milwaukee has all of the same things that any other city, especially any other big city, has.”- This sentence is sourced to one or two sentences that Lasry says in a 30 minute interview. Since it's coming from a primary source, and not being reported on as a secondary source, I don't see how it is significant enough to include in an encyclopedic biography - it feels like it's giving undue weight to a comment he made." It is right, I accept it.
His campaign is mainly funded by Wall Street and sports teams." In other it listed how much his funding is from these grous and instead of just "mainly" i will use the concrete number in this source instead.
...despite the fact that his father Marc Lasry want Republican Party to win Senate" This sentence should not belong to "Alex Lasry" so I won't undelete it.
References
I think the scandals and political positions are either from credible source or directly from his own campaign video. And I just fully use the sentences of original sources as much as possible. So I think I follows the rules, If you think it isn't, instead of just deleting please change into what you think obeys the rule. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geeky1127 ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
There are only 2 people who keep deleting it,one only edit this page and another who only deleted once is a fan of bucks, His basketball team. So I don't think anyone without interest connection is unsatisfied with those part. Bisides since you are not satisfied you can fix it by your self. No one know why you think this part has error better than you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geeky1127 ( talk • contribs)
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/33-year-bucks-exec-alex-lasry-covid-vaccine-75565955
https://www.wpr.org/bucks-exec-alex-lasry-says-he-jumped-vaccination-line-pure-happenstance I think as to his vaccine scandal there are much more news report than 2 so it should be kept as what it was. Geeky1127 ( talk) 20:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, Instagram, Reddit, IMDb, Ancestry.com, Find a Grave, and ODMP. It do not have youtube, Geeky1127 ( talk) 20:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Whisperjanes Anubus2013 is just vandalize by deleting everything even if they meet the staandard.
@whisperjane @asdasdasdff anubus2013 is just an account inly focus pn vamdalizing contents about alex lasry, need to do something. Geeky1127 ( talk) 15:59, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
@whisperjane I think what his contribution is when he serve as senior vice president and manage private/public partnership to triple Buck's worth should be included. I originally think it is Down by Manager Fagin. Howeever the article provided by anubus2013----who deleete it, just prove he is the one who manage it thus thosee should be included as his career accomplishment Firstly, @anubus2013 himself is not an normal account that never edit any article other than vandalizonng contents about lasry. and his own link https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/06/10/senate-race-lasry-campaign- shown that he is managing the team during his tenure, so all the contents you deleete is linked to Lasry and his contribution.Besides in https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2018/05/31/milwaukee-bucks-have-named-good-city-brewing-their-first-tenant/644871002/ it mentions "Built with $250 million in taxpayer support" without the content you delete just because that vandalizing account delete, Where that 250 million come from, which is the public/private partnership, is not shown. If you can't understand, Let me show you in this way: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/02/16/bucks-executive-alex-lasry-enters-u-s-senate-race-wisconsin/6769241002/ in this link it shows Lasry serve sa senior vice president of milwaukee bucks, https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/7641938002?__twitter_impression=true in this link it shows Alex Lasry on that position is running this team. Thus how Bucks team get this funding and triple its worth during his tenure, should be part of his career contribution and get included in "career" section. SInce you think it do not belong to it, I do not add it back by myself, but i'd recommend you to add it back in a way you think is proper.
It is his own twitter, which is his own speech that shows his own meaning!is something, it didn't address any of the issues I pointed out in my edit summary. So I'll repeat it here again, since I'm tired of the edit warring. The tweet does not verify anything in the sentence preceding it (the sentence itself doesn't even mention the tweet). And there is already more independent sourcing referenced. Why this explanation wasn't convincing in the first place, I have no idea. But in addition to that, Twitter is generally an unreliable source per WP:RSPTWITTER. - Whisperjanes ( talk) 00:19, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, there has been 5 source, no need to add the tweet. Geeky1127 ( talk) 00:50, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
For now, I've removed the section on the Fiserv Forum labor agreement. [1] I have no issue if someone wants to rewrite it neutrally, if they can find adequate sourcing. But the current sources are lacking, and at this point, the paragraph is basically unsourced and contains promotional phrasing and marketingese.
The first source only says he announced the agreement, [2] the second only has a quote from Lasry saying he was "part of [the] development agreement", [3], and the third say he presented a briefing. [4] None of those sources support what was written in the article. The final sentence doesn't mention Lasry, and it doesn't seem like it would make sense without the previous sentences for context anyways. Feel free to point out if I missed something - but as of now, it seems like that section is WP:OR. - Whisperjanes ( talk) 05:51, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Since there is someone who keep adding POV sing without initiaking any discussion, I initiate this talk page to let those who add it talk about this Article's neutrality— Preceding unsigned comment added by Madisonsocdem ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Note Both accounts involved have been banned as sock-puppets of Geeky1127. The good hand-bad hand editing was cute. Slywriter ( talk) 12:51, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Recently many many sockpuppets of User:Geeky1127 keep add a paragraph about bucks deal that is written in a biased way to this page. I agree with the decision to delete it since it is obviously pushing for an agenda instear od writing encyclopedia, However, there are a lotov media coverage that shows he helped to negociate in the deal on becalf bucks. https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2017/10/26/bucks-believe-their-15-wage-goal-can-be-model.html https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/06/10/senate-race-lasry-campaign-clarifies-15-wage-claim-fiserv-forum/7641938002/ and https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2019/11/20/eyes-on-milwaukee-bucks-beat-hiring-targets-on-fiserv-forum/#google_vignette so I think it may need to be addd back n a neutral way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Energyequalstomc2 ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 28 June 2022 (UTC)