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The original gazette announcement - which is what gives the award its legal substance records him as OBE. However, the two obits, his service record, and the gazette announcement of his departure from the RAF all state CBE. However, I'm inclined to go with OBE since by my understanding of the statutes of the Order, an air force officer would normally have to be of the rank of Group Captain (or Colonel in this period) to be eligible for a CBE. It is however possible that he was promoted to CBE at some point, and the gazette search isn't turning it up for some reason. I've tried to address the conflicting sources in the article. David Underdown ( talk) 15:04, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
The article states that Ogilvie was "unsuccessful" in the 1910 Gordon Bennett event, but he was actually awarded the R.Ae.C.'s silver medal for coming third in the Gordon Bennett Aviation Cup. I haven't got access to the Times article cited; could somebody who does have access please check this - perhaps the journalist considered third place 'unsuccessful', but the R.Ae.C. took a different view. Thanks. -- TraceyR ( talk) 10:19, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
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The original gazette announcement - which is what gives the award its legal substance records him as OBE. However, the two obits, his service record, and the gazette announcement of his departure from the RAF all state CBE. However, I'm inclined to go with OBE since by my understanding of the statutes of the Order, an air force officer would normally have to be of the rank of Group Captain (or Colonel in this period) to be eligible for a CBE. It is however possible that he was promoted to CBE at some point, and the gazette search isn't turning it up for some reason. I've tried to address the conflicting sources in the article. David Underdown ( talk) 15:04, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
The article states that Ogilvie was "unsuccessful" in the 1910 Gordon Bennett event, but he was actually awarded the R.Ae.C.'s silver medal for coming third in the Gordon Bennett Aviation Cup. I haven't got access to the Times article cited; could somebody who does have access please check this - perhaps the journalist considered third place 'unsuccessful', but the R.Ae.C. took a different view. Thanks. -- TraceyR ( talk) 10:19, 19 June 2010 (UTC)