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way to basic. needs to be expanded. Urban909
IMO, this article has more photos than necessary. Furthermore, they are all from Airliners.net, with a copyright notice that the copyright holder has released all rights. I question whether this is truly the case. I know one of the photographers whose images are used, and will verify with him if the copyright box is correct. If not, I will mark the images for deletion as copyvio. -- Hawaiian717 19:28, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I can't find any other information on this flight (an incident in Nov. 1973 at ABQ). Can someone contribute more information about it? It does not appear in the list of aviation incidents. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.105.163.163 ( talk • contribs) 16:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC-8)
a couple of pics from personal photos that are a good representation of the airport would be nice. mabye they can be put in here first, and then a desicion can be made about them. cheers Urban909
"ABQ's terminal, which was expanded to its present size in the late 1980s and again in 1996, encompasses 574,000 sq. ft. of space."
If the terminal was expanded to its present size in the late 1980s then how could it have been further expanded (beyond its present size) later?
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One of the notable features of the airport (to me anyway) is the Cavalcade of Wings. It may be worthy of mention by someone more knowledgeable. Jim ( talk) 16:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I've denoted that two of this airline's four destinations are direct flights (only to be undone with unsatisfactory explanation), thereby increasing the accuracy of this article, because they were the only direct flights listed. For example, it would be cumbersome to list all of Southwest's direct flights from the airport, some of which do not transit airports that are basically hubs. WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT discourages the use of "via" descriptions for direct flights especially those that transit an airline's hubs. Given NMA's limited scope and the general lack of information about direct flights in airline destination lists (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines/page content) it seems that this is a good place for information about NMA's route structure. Synchronism ( talk) 08:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
HkCaGu ( talk) 04:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Here is the guidelines from WP:AIRPORTS: List non-stop and direct flights only. That means the flight number and the aircraft, starts at this airport and continues to one or more airports. Avoid using the description 'via' since that is more correctly listed as another destination. If passengers can not disembark at a stop on a direct flight, then do not list it as a destination or as 'via'. Direct flights are not always non-stop flights. However, avoid listing direct flights that contain a stop at a domestic hub, as virtually all of these are simply flights from one "spoke city" to a hub, with the plane continuing from the hub to a second spoke city. Furthermore, these flights often involve plane changes, despite the direct designation. Including these flights dramatically increases the length of destination listings, artificially inflates the airline's presence at a location and requires constant updating, as these "timetable direct" destinations have little rhyme or reason and may change as often as every week or two. 18:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I looked through all the archives of the Airport Project, to open by speaking of undue burdens. I found quite a few threads about whether to include direct flights at all, but very little about how to mark them. A 2006 thread has several editors claiming that there is no need to differentiate between nonstop and direct, and several claiming that using "via" is straightforward for increasingly rare "truly" direct flights. The Aiport Project's MOS guideline seems to reflect a compromise between the two viewpoints, by generally discouraging "via" for service that doesn't transit a hub. Therefore this is not even covered by the "discourage" clause as these flights do not transit a hub. I have stated why these two direct flights are exceptional, but will repeat for convenience: it doesn't harm the article; they are the only direct destinations listed; the flights are a part of New Mexico's subsidized intrastate scheduled commercial aviation network, the hub of which is this airport located in the state's economic hub, it is thus interesting to see the airport reaches its destinations's geographic domain.
The factual accuracy dispute tag should be removed, and I will do so seen, a lot of articles could be more accurate but no one has alleged that this one is inaccurate.Synchronism 02:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
The airport is referred to throughout as "Albuquerque International Sunport" or "the Sunport" and the article states that it was originally named Albuquerque Municipal Airport. There is no mention of the change that removed the word *airport* from the name of this airport. Pmocek ( talk) 15:22, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
The destinations list does not list any destinations outside the USA. In what way can this airport claim to be "International"? TiffaF ( talk) 13:57, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Great question, I've had the same myself. The rule in place is 19 CFR § 122.11, which specifies the designation criteria. It generally is not revoked provided the airline continues to comply with the rules, namely to provide facilities to allow processing of international passengers and cargo while following the federal procedures in handling them. I've not seen an example where it's revoked. The CBP staff is still present and processing Global Entry, private/charter cargo/passenger flights, emergency landings, enforcement activities, and the intermittent international service the airport receives. I appreciate that the airport maintains the service even during times that scheduled commercial service is not available. Dolphx ( talk) 15:10, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
There was a brief service to Mexico from 2018-2019. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.26.166.37 ( talk) 01:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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The article states that the 737-900 is the largest commercial aircraft that flies from here. However, Boeing 757 aircraft have flown out of here before. Should the article be changed to reflect that? Jak474 ( talk) 13:32, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
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The presented runway diagram dates from 2006, and shows a north-south runway. However, that runway is apparently permanently closed. The current diagram can be found here: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1902/00012ad.pdf#nameddest=(ABQ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.56.218 ( talk) 21:50, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, the north-south runway (17-35) is most assuredly closed. It was shut down in 2012, and in 2017 they started demolition to build a new business air park in it's place. https://abqsunport.com/2017/03/albuquerque-international-sunport-breaks-ground-on-aviation-center-of-excellence-3917/ Dolphx ( talk) 15:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
I would argue that the VC-25A (as Air Force One) was the largest passenger aircraft to visit - as most recently as 2019. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.26.166.37 ( talk) 01:01, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Can you tell me why all Mexico City flights have been terminated, including Aeromexico and when there will ever be any of those flights again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey ( talk • contribs) 00:27, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
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way to basic. needs to be expanded. Urban909
IMO, this article has more photos than necessary. Furthermore, they are all from Airliners.net, with a copyright notice that the copyright holder has released all rights. I question whether this is truly the case. I know one of the photographers whose images are used, and will verify with him if the copyright box is correct. If not, I will mark the images for deletion as copyvio. -- Hawaiian717 19:28, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I can't find any other information on this flight (an incident in Nov. 1973 at ABQ). Can someone contribute more information about it? It does not appear in the list of aviation incidents. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.105.163.163 ( talk • contribs) 16:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC-8)
a couple of pics from personal photos that are a good representation of the airport would be nice. mabye they can be put in here first, and then a desicion can be made about them. cheers Urban909
"ABQ's terminal, which was expanded to its present size in the late 1980s and again in 1996, encompasses 574,000 sq. ft. of space."
If the terminal was expanded to its present size in the late 1980s then how could it have been further expanded (beyond its present size) later?
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One of the notable features of the airport (to me anyway) is the Cavalcade of Wings. It may be worthy of mention by someone more knowledgeable. Jim ( talk) 16:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I've denoted that two of this airline's four destinations are direct flights (only to be undone with unsatisfactory explanation), thereby increasing the accuracy of this article, because they were the only direct flights listed. For example, it would be cumbersome to list all of Southwest's direct flights from the airport, some of which do not transit airports that are basically hubs. WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT discourages the use of "via" descriptions for direct flights especially those that transit an airline's hubs. Given NMA's limited scope and the general lack of information about direct flights in airline destination lists (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines/page content) it seems that this is a good place for information about NMA's route structure. Synchronism ( talk) 08:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
HkCaGu ( talk) 04:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Here is the guidelines from WP:AIRPORTS: List non-stop and direct flights only. That means the flight number and the aircraft, starts at this airport and continues to one or more airports. Avoid using the description 'via' since that is more correctly listed as another destination. If passengers can not disembark at a stop on a direct flight, then do not list it as a destination or as 'via'. Direct flights are not always non-stop flights. However, avoid listing direct flights that contain a stop at a domestic hub, as virtually all of these are simply flights from one "spoke city" to a hub, with the plane continuing from the hub to a second spoke city. Furthermore, these flights often involve plane changes, despite the direct designation. Including these flights dramatically increases the length of destination listings, artificially inflates the airline's presence at a location and requires constant updating, as these "timetable direct" destinations have little rhyme or reason and may change as often as every week or two. 18:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I looked through all the archives of the Airport Project, to open by speaking of undue burdens. I found quite a few threads about whether to include direct flights at all, but very little about how to mark them. A 2006 thread has several editors claiming that there is no need to differentiate between nonstop and direct, and several claiming that using "via" is straightforward for increasingly rare "truly" direct flights. The Aiport Project's MOS guideline seems to reflect a compromise between the two viewpoints, by generally discouraging "via" for service that doesn't transit a hub. Therefore this is not even covered by the "discourage" clause as these flights do not transit a hub. I have stated why these two direct flights are exceptional, but will repeat for convenience: it doesn't harm the article; they are the only direct destinations listed; the flights are a part of New Mexico's subsidized intrastate scheduled commercial aviation network, the hub of which is this airport located in the state's economic hub, it is thus interesting to see the airport reaches its destinations's geographic domain.
The factual accuracy dispute tag should be removed, and I will do so seen, a lot of articles could be more accurate but no one has alleged that this one is inaccurate.Synchronism 02:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
The airport is referred to throughout as "Albuquerque International Sunport" or "the Sunport" and the article states that it was originally named Albuquerque Municipal Airport. There is no mention of the change that removed the word *airport* from the name of this airport. Pmocek ( talk) 15:22, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
The destinations list does not list any destinations outside the USA. In what way can this airport claim to be "International"? TiffaF ( talk) 13:57, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Great question, I've had the same myself. The rule in place is 19 CFR § 122.11, which specifies the designation criteria. It generally is not revoked provided the airline continues to comply with the rules, namely to provide facilities to allow processing of international passengers and cargo while following the federal procedures in handling them. I've not seen an example where it's revoked. The CBP staff is still present and processing Global Entry, private/charter cargo/passenger flights, emergency landings, enforcement activities, and the intermittent international service the airport receives. I appreciate that the airport maintains the service even during times that scheduled commercial service is not available. Dolphx ( talk) 15:10, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
There was a brief service to Mexico from 2018-2019. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.26.166.37 ( talk) 01:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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The presented runway diagram dates from 2006, and shows a north-south runway. However, that runway is apparently permanently closed. The current diagram can be found here: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1902/00012ad.pdf#nameddest=(ABQ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.56.218 ( talk) 21:50, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, the north-south runway (17-35) is most assuredly closed. It was shut down in 2012, and in 2017 they started demolition to build a new business air park in it's place. https://abqsunport.com/2017/03/albuquerque-international-sunport-breaks-ground-on-aviation-center-of-excellence-3917/ Dolphx ( talk) 15:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
I would argue that the VC-25A (as Air Force One) was the largest passenger aircraft to visit - as most recently as 2019. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.26.166.37 ( talk) 01:01, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Can you tell me why all Mexico City flights have been terminated, including Aeromexico and when there will ever be any of those flights again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey ( talk • contribs) 00:27, 29 November 2021 (UTC)