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Nominator: TheBritinator ( talk · contribs) 01:54, 13 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Reviewer: -sche ( talk · contribs) 19:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply


Observations about the lead and early life section: Regarding GA criterion 1 (writing) and 2 (verifiability), the lead and early life section are mostly well-written and supported by the references they cite, but there are some places I would suggest clarifying:

  • In the lead, where it says "political figure": is there a reason not to just say "politician"?
 Done
  • I have copyedited the paragraph containing "Schädler was born on 24 December 1848 in Vaduz to the son of politician and later President of the Landtag of Liechtenstein Karl Schädler and his mother Katharina Walser" to clarify (per the cited ref) that Albert's parents were Karl + Katharina (as written, it could be read as saying his parents were Karl's son and mother).
Understood.
  • "In addition, from 1879 he conducted language studies in Paris, Lyon and London until 1887, where he learned to speak French and English.": this is probably a translation issue; by my reading, the source says he studied language in Paris and Lyon in 1879, and then in London in 1887, not that he was studying language continuously from 1879 until 1887; "conducted studies" also sounds odd to me, thought that may just be me. (AFAICT, it also technically only says he studied language in those places, and then separately later on in the Lexikon page says he spoke English and French, without explicitly saying that's where he learned to speak English and French, although that seems like a very reasonable inference.) Hewing closer to the source, what do you think of something like: "In addition, he studied language in Paris and Lyon in 1879, and in London in 1887, learning to speak French and English."
 Done
  • The statement "he is widely regarded as one of the most influential figures in politics and healthcare in Liechtenstein's history" is cited to a (single but AFAICT high-quality) source which says "Er genoss als Arzt, Historiker und Politiker hohes Ansehen" (He enjoyed a high reputation as a doctor, historian and politician). The source also notes, as the Wikipedia article does, the medical things Liechtenstein called on him to assist with, and says he shaped Liechtenstein's politics for decades, which can be summarized as him being influential, but is it possible to clarify what (parts of the) sources support the statement that he is "widely regarded as one of the most influential" in the country's history? Alternatively, would rewriting it like "he was well regarded as a doctor and politician, and influenced the country's politics for decades" be closer to what the source supports?

 Done

  • Is there a source for the pronunciation of the name, given as ˈʃɛdlɜ? (In standard German, I would expect ˈʃɛːdlɐ; if this is Liechtenstein German, I would love to see a source, to confirm /ɛ/ and coda /ɜ/.)
 Done

I will review the other sections with regard to writing and verifiability next, and then will review criterion 3. -sche ( talk) 00:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Reviewing the Medical career section:

  • The first paragraph is well-written and supported by its sources, apart from the last sentence: For this purpose, he wrote a book focused on the field in 1886 and obtained the Federal Concordat Diploma in 1877. I would suggest rewriting this in chronological order: that he obtained a Swiss Concordat Diploma in 1877 (based on context and on what other Swiss Konkordats-things are, I gather this was some cross-cantonal qualification/certification, though evidently he was able to work as a doctor in those Swiss spas even before having it), and then wrote a book about the Ragaz-Pfäfers spas in 1886.
 Done

(More to come.) -sche ( talk) 17:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ -sche: Thanks for the initial review. I have addressed the comments you have made. TheBritinator ( talk) 13:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks! -sche ( talk) 04:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The rest of the "Medical career and patronage" section looks good as far as writing and verifiability, apart from:

  • from 1873 to 1878 he was an editor for Liechtensteiner Wochenzeitung: The Lexikon says Rudolf was the editor (as well as the owner), while Albert wrote articles. Unless there are other sources, would it be more in line with the cited source to say Albert wrote for the Liechtensteiner Wochenzeitung?
  • Upon his brother Karl's death in 1907, Schädler and Rudolf inherited the Kurhaus Gaflei - a foundation in order to establish a school for housekeeping: as far as I can tell, the Kurhaus and the Stiftung for the housekeeping school were two separate entities.

(Will review other sections as time permits.) -sche ( talk) 04:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

GA Review

Article ( | visual edit | history) · Article talk ( | history) · Watch

Nominator: TheBritinator ( talk · contribs) 01:54, 13 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Reviewer: -sche ( talk · contribs) 19:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply


Observations about the lead and early life section: Regarding GA criterion 1 (writing) and 2 (verifiability), the lead and early life section are mostly well-written and supported by the references they cite, but there are some places I would suggest clarifying:

  • In the lead, where it says "political figure": is there a reason not to just say "politician"?
 Done
  • I have copyedited the paragraph containing "Schädler was born on 24 December 1848 in Vaduz to the son of politician and later President of the Landtag of Liechtenstein Karl Schädler and his mother Katharina Walser" to clarify (per the cited ref) that Albert's parents were Karl + Katharina (as written, it could be read as saying his parents were Karl's son and mother).
Understood.
  • "In addition, from 1879 he conducted language studies in Paris, Lyon and London until 1887, where he learned to speak French and English.": this is probably a translation issue; by my reading, the source says he studied language in Paris and Lyon in 1879, and then in London in 1887, not that he was studying language continuously from 1879 until 1887; "conducted studies" also sounds odd to me, thought that may just be me. (AFAICT, it also technically only says he studied language in those places, and then separately later on in the Lexikon page says he spoke English and French, without explicitly saying that's where he learned to speak English and French, although that seems like a very reasonable inference.) Hewing closer to the source, what do you think of something like: "In addition, he studied language in Paris and Lyon in 1879, and in London in 1887, learning to speak French and English."
 Done
  • The statement "he is widely regarded as one of the most influential figures in politics and healthcare in Liechtenstein's history" is cited to a (single but AFAICT high-quality) source which says "Er genoss als Arzt, Historiker und Politiker hohes Ansehen" (He enjoyed a high reputation as a doctor, historian and politician). The source also notes, as the Wikipedia article does, the medical things Liechtenstein called on him to assist with, and says he shaped Liechtenstein's politics for decades, which can be summarized as him being influential, but is it possible to clarify what (parts of the) sources support the statement that he is "widely regarded as one of the most influential" in the country's history? Alternatively, would rewriting it like "he was well regarded as a doctor and politician, and influenced the country's politics for decades" be closer to what the source supports?

 Done

  • Is there a source for the pronunciation of the name, given as ˈʃɛdlɜ? (In standard German, I would expect ˈʃɛːdlɐ; if this is Liechtenstein German, I would love to see a source, to confirm /ɛ/ and coda /ɜ/.)
 Done

I will review the other sections with regard to writing and verifiability next, and then will review criterion 3. -sche ( talk) 00:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Reviewing the Medical career section:

  • The first paragraph is well-written and supported by its sources, apart from the last sentence: For this purpose, he wrote a book focused on the field in 1886 and obtained the Federal Concordat Diploma in 1877. I would suggest rewriting this in chronological order: that he obtained a Swiss Concordat Diploma in 1877 (based on context and on what other Swiss Konkordats-things are, I gather this was some cross-cantonal qualification/certification, though evidently he was able to work as a doctor in those Swiss spas even before having it), and then wrote a book about the Ragaz-Pfäfers spas in 1886.
 Done

(More to come.) -sche ( talk) 17:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ -sche: Thanks for the initial review. I have addressed the comments you have made. TheBritinator ( talk) 13:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks! -sche ( talk) 04:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The rest of the "Medical career and patronage" section looks good as far as writing and verifiability, apart from:

  • from 1873 to 1878 he was an editor for Liechtensteiner Wochenzeitung: The Lexikon says Rudolf was the editor (as well as the owner), while Albert wrote articles. Unless there are other sources, would it be more in line with the cited source to say Albert wrote for the Liechtensteiner Wochenzeitung?
  • Upon his brother Karl's death in 1907, Schädler and Rudolf inherited the Kurhaus Gaflei - a foundation in order to establish a school for housekeeping: as far as I can tell, the Kurhaus and the Stiftung for the housekeeping school were two separate entities.

(Will review other sections as time permits.) -sche ( talk) 04:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply


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