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I think that it is not good to insert picture Mehmet Ruhi Arel, Askerler (Soldiers), 1915.jpg with description of askerlers (soldiers on turkish language) from 1915 in the article about events from 1912. Also
author of the picture is less than 70 years old and I am afraid there is copyright violation too.--
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My mistake. The author is more than 70 years dead. Sorry.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 23:58, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
An interwar Serbian author isn't RS, so please replace the source. Corovic seems to have been a nationalist (
Thus, in the presented historical analyses, one could have noticed that the Serb scholars of the ecole national, like Vladimir Corovic, advocate that the Bosniak national body is made primarily of ethnic Serbs) and as such his works included views like
This will to live, this resistance to the hardest blows, this capacity of reviving an almost inanimate organism, constitute one of the greatest qualities of the Serbian people and The much disputed Red Croatia actually existed, but the Serbian tribes from the interior, with more aggressivenes and vitality, narrowed its frontiers and finally submerged the country i.e his work is an outdated and POV source it. Of course if there is any accuracy to be found in his work there must be some other source that verifies the alleged events.--
— ZjarriRrethues —
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Due to the flaws in Corovic's scholarship outlined by modern reviewers (e.g., here), the use of Corovic as a source for any contentious statement is strongly deprecated. Please find a reliable modern source for the statement; there must be some modern historian who's made such a comment. I'll give you ten days. DS ( talk) 18:05, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
(unintend)Then after 10 days I'll remove everything attributed to Corovic and btw only one of the sources quoted mention him in relation to Bosnia (the one quoted by DS doesn't even mention Bosnia). Repeating a point ad infinitum doesn't raise its validity. As DS suggested you should look for a source in the next days. In the meantime you may want to read about Corovic's propaganda works that acted as the origin of the anti-Austrian sentiment in Serbian historiography [1]-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
(unindent)A famous historian that wrote a work on Greater Serbia (in favor of it actually if you read the book itself or reviews of it). Btw [3] (A prominent role in this movement was played by Moljevic and other supporters of the Serbian Cultural Club, a political organization whose leading figures included Nikola Stojanovic and Vladimir Corovic, Bosnian Serbs who two decades previously had rejected Great Serbianism in favour of Yugoslavism but were now the most hardline of Serb nationalists.) There are 9 days left before he is removed.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Antid, why do you insist on using unreliable Corovic as a source? Majuru ( talk) 17:46, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
(unindent)Antid. has been given a deadline by an admin and RSN deals with authors that are disputed not with outdated ones that are outrightly labeled hardline nationalists (i.e there doesn't exist any ambivalence regarding RS) . Antid. instisted that I mentioned a Serbian perspective (that's a quote from an author on a work of Bogdanovic not my comment), although I didn't use the terms or imply that this is a case of perspectives. -- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:03, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
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Why are you removing the part where it says Hasan Prishtina was gonna declare independence ? It even says in the text that he wanted to declare independence.
Also , why did you remove the part from Aubrey Herbert, this revolt did defeat the Ottoman Empire and instigated the Balkan Wars , wich is the opinion among many historians for example. TheCreatorOne ( talk) 09:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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I think that it is not good to insert picture Mehmet Ruhi Arel, Askerler (Soldiers), 1915.jpg with description of askerlers (soldiers on turkish language) from 1915 in the article about events from 1912. Also
author of the picture is less than 70 years old and I am afraid there is copyright violation too.--
Antidiskriminator (
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11:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
My mistake. The author is more than 70 years dead. Sorry.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 23:58, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
An interwar Serbian author isn't RS, so please replace the source. Corovic seems to have been a nationalist (
Thus, in the presented historical analyses, one could have noticed that the Serb scholars of the ecole national, like Vladimir Corovic, advocate that the Bosniak national body is made primarily of ethnic Serbs) and as such his works included views like
This will to live, this resistance to the hardest blows, this capacity of reviving an almost inanimate organism, constitute one of the greatest qualities of the Serbian people and The much disputed Red Croatia actually existed, but the Serbian tribes from the interior, with more aggressivenes and vitality, narrowed its frontiers and finally submerged the country i.e his work is an outdated and POV source it. Of course if there is any accuracy to be found in his work there must be some other source that verifies the alleged events.--
— ZjarriRrethues —
talk
14:58, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Due to the flaws in Corovic's scholarship outlined by modern reviewers (e.g., here), the use of Corovic as a source for any contentious statement is strongly deprecated. Please find a reliable modern source for the statement; there must be some modern historian who's made such a comment. I'll give you ten days. DS ( talk) 18:05, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
(unintend)Then after 10 days I'll remove everything attributed to Corovic and btw only one of the sources quoted mention him in relation to Bosnia (the one quoted by DS doesn't even mention Bosnia). Repeating a point ad infinitum doesn't raise its validity. As DS suggested you should look for a source in the next days. In the meantime you may want to read about Corovic's propaganda works that acted as the origin of the anti-Austrian sentiment in Serbian historiography [1]-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
(unindent)A famous historian that wrote a work on Greater Serbia (in favor of it actually if you read the book itself or reviews of it). Btw [3] (A prominent role in this movement was played by Moljevic and other supporters of the Serbian Cultural Club, a political organization whose leading figures included Nikola Stojanovic and Vladimir Corovic, Bosnian Serbs who two decades previously had rejected Great Serbianism in favour of Yugoslavism but were now the most hardline of Serb nationalists.) There are 9 days left before he is removed.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Antid, why do you insist on using unreliable Corovic as a source? Majuru ( talk) 17:46, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
(unindent)Antid. has been given a deadline by an admin and RSN deals with authors that are disputed not with outdated ones that are outrightly labeled hardline nationalists (i.e there doesn't exist any ambivalence regarding RS) . Antid. instisted that I mentioned a Serbian perspective (that's a quote from an author on a work of Bogdanovic not my comment), although I didn't use the terms or imply that this is a case of perspectives. -- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:03, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
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Why are you removing the part where it says Hasan Prishtina was gonna declare independence ? It even says in the text that he wanted to declare independence.
Also , why did you remove the part from Aubrey Herbert, this revolt did defeat the Ottoman Empire and instigated the Balkan Wars , wich is the opinion among many historians for example. TheCreatorOne ( talk) 09:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)