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Hm. My copy of Cry, the Beloved Country says that Paton died in 1992. Where did we get 1988? -- User:Jenmoa 19:03, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
Reggie Perrin ( talk) 13:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Less than 1% never returned? Is this a typing error? If not, it would suggest a very high reoffending rate.
i wouldlike to find a book i read wha he wrote of his time at diepkloof i think there was a story on tv about that aswell i can not remember the name of the book or the tv show i would like to purchase this book if possible
I am profoundly shocked and upset that this site has been subject to so much vandalism - like shitting on your grandmother's carpet!! I have endeavoured to restore something like the original (pre-vandalism) version - and stndardised capitalisation a bit from the "shout" all-caps form!!
Soundofmusicals 05:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Many paragraphs from this site seem to be exact word-for-word replice\as from another online biography of Alan Paton, http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/apaton.htm. If this page has been copied from another website, it should be fixed or removed immeadietly. Could someone check this apparent plagerism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.55.40.102 ( talk) 16:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Just going over that link I agree that it may be an uncredited source article but I haven't been able to find any word-for-word lifting (at least not from a quick read through). Could you please point out the specific paragraphs at issue? Reggie Perrin ( talk) 20:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, the "family" section seems to be lifted directly from the link (summarized a bit). I'll take a stab at rewording it (while also putting in a credit). Are there any other problematic paragraphs? Reggie Perrin ( talk) 20:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I've reworked parts of the article and used the aforementioned link as a cited source. The article needs more sources though (and better ones, I can't even tell who is the author of the source we're using at present - it looks like an "author's biography" from a publisher but I can't find a citation). Reggie Perrin ( talk) 20:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the Finnish titles of the novels - it did not seem to be any reason apart from the origin of the page having come from a Finnish source. Hope this OK. -- 217.43.192.181 ( talk) 15:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no critique against him? -- 41.14.118.198 ( talk) 11:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Born
January 11, 1903
Died
April 12, 1988
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help)Facts mentioned in Times obituary
Alan Paton,
The Intent Was to Influence
In an interview last month with John D. Battersby of The New York Times at the novelist's home in Botha's Hill,
I had an eye on my fellow white South Africans and white Americans when I wrote the book. It wasn't a book written for the right or the middle or the left. I hoped to influence my fellow whites.
Invitations Refused
This section is for the developing of an infobox for Paton.
Alan Paton | |
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Born | 1903 Pietermaritzburg, Natal Province |
Died | 1988 Botha's Hill, South Africa |
Occupation | Writer, political activist |
Language | English |
Notable works | Cry the Beloved Country |
Spouse | Dorrie Francis Lusted 1928-1967 Anne Hopkins 1967- |
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help)Paton at the Liberal Party congress in October 1964 said:
Any person who, while a member of the Liberal Party, plans to use violence against things or persons is not only guilty of an offence against the law. He is also guilty of grave disloyalty to the Party." cited in Janet Robertson: Liberalism in South Africa: 1948-1963, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1971, p. 225)
"...There are other Afrikaners, too, who are led by their consciences and not by rules, and regulations promulgated by a faceless, monolithic parliament." (from Post-Colonial African Writers, ed. by Pushipa Naidu Parekh and Siga Fatima Jagne, 1998)..." Can we just leave out such pathetic phrasing and replace this with some more neutral wording? -- 41.151.241.113 ( talk) 14:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
I have been reading the page on Alan Paton, author of Cry, the beloved country. It states that he completed the book in San Francisco in December 1946. = quote from page "During his time in Norway, he began work on his seminal novel Cry, The Beloved Country, which he completed over the course of his journey, finishing it on Christmas Eve in San Francisco in 1946.[1]" This cannot be true because I am holding Penguin Modern Classics copy of the book which has the following: Copyright Alan Paton 1944, first published Jonathan Cape, 1944, First published in Penguin Books 1958., reprinted 1959, 1960, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966 (twice) 1969. No ISBN Number. This probably needs to be corrected on the Alan Paton pages please.. There is no ISBN number in the Penguin Modern Classics copy and the details page does NOT specify the exact edition. But I assume it may be a 1969 version because the frontispiece includes the note that the Liberal Party in South Africa was disbanded in May 1968 'under persistent official pressure' But this version was printed in Great Britain by Hazell, Watson & Viney ltd, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, UK, and set in Linotype. Front Cover illustration: detail from 'Three Boys' by Marianne Podlashuc (photo by UCA studios) Back cover: Sold in UK for 20 p = 4/-, Australia $0.70, New Zealand $0.65, South Africa R0.50, For copyright reasons this edition is not for sale in the USA or Canada - details from back cover.
So what now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.71.50.98 ( talk) 19:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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Every publication I've seen about Alan Paton's work has this work titled as "The Waste Land", not "The Wasteland". It is also not a narrative poem. Is this a confusion between Paton's and T.S. Elliot's work? Seokzine ( talk) 18:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hm. My copy of Cry, the Beloved Country says that Paton died in 1992. Where did we get 1988? -- User:Jenmoa 19:03, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
Reggie Perrin ( talk) 13:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Less than 1% never returned? Is this a typing error? If not, it would suggest a very high reoffending rate.
i wouldlike to find a book i read wha he wrote of his time at diepkloof i think there was a story on tv about that aswell i can not remember the name of the book or the tv show i would like to purchase this book if possible
I am profoundly shocked and upset that this site has been subject to so much vandalism - like shitting on your grandmother's carpet!! I have endeavoured to restore something like the original (pre-vandalism) version - and stndardised capitalisation a bit from the "shout" all-caps form!!
Soundofmusicals 05:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Many paragraphs from this site seem to be exact word-for-word replice\as from another online biography of Alan Paton, http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/apaton.htm. If this page has been copied from another website, it should be fixed or removed immeadietly. Could someone check this apparent plagerism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.55.40.102 ( talk) 16:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Just going over that link I agree that it may be an uncredited source article but I haven't been able to find any word-for-word lifting (at least not from a quick read through). Could you please point out the specific paragraphs at issue? Reggie Perrin ( talk) 20:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, the "family" section seems to be lifted directly from the link (summarized a bit). I'll take a stab at rewording it (while also putting in a credit). Are there any other problematic paragraphs? Reggie Perrin ( talk) 20:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I've reworked parts of the article and used the aforementioned link as a cited source. The article needs more sources though (and better ones, I can't even tell who is the author of the source we're using at present - it looks like an "author's biography" from a publisher but I can't find a citation). Reggie Perrin ( talk) 20:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the Finnish titles of the novels - it did not seem to be any reason apart from the origin of the page having come from a Finnish source. Hope this OK. -- 217.43.192.181 ( talk) 15:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no critique against him? -- 41.14.118.198 ( talk) 11:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Born
January 11, 1903
Died
April 12, 1988
{{
cite journal}}
: Check date values in: |accessdate=
(
help)Facts mentioned in Times obituary
Alan Paton,
The Intent Was to Influence
In an interview last month with John D. Battersby of The New York Times at the novelist's home in Botha's Hill,
I had an eye on my fellow white South Africans and white Americans when I wrote the book. It wasn't a book written for the right or the middle or the left. I hoped to influence my fellow whites.
Invitations Refused
This section is for the developing of an infobox for Paton.
Alan Paton | |
---|---|
Born | 1903 Pietermaritzburg, Natal Province |
Died | 1988 Botha's Hill, South Africa |
Occupation | Writer, political activist |
Language | English |
Notable works | Cry the Beloved Country |
Spouse | Dorrie Francis Lusted 1928-1967 Anne Hopkins 1967- |
{{
cite book}}
: |volume=
has extra text (
help); Check |isbn=
value: checksum (
help); Check date values in: |date=
(
help)Paton at the Liberal Party congress in October 1964 said:
Any person who, while a member of the Liberal Party, plans to use violence against things or persons is not only guilty of an offence against the law. He is also guilty of grave disloyalty to the Party." cited in Janet Robertson: Liberalism in South Africa: 1948-1963, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1971, p. 225)
"...There are other Afrikaners, too, who are led by their consciences and not by rules, and regulations promulgated by a faceless, monolithic parliament." (from Post-Colonial African Writers, ed. by Pushipa Naidu Parekh and Siga Fatima Jagne, 1998)..." Can we just leave out such pathetic phrasing and replace this with some more neutral wording? -- 41.151.241.113 ( talk) 14:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
I have been reading the page on Alan Paton, author of Cry, the beloved country. It states that he completed the book in San Francisco in December 1946. = quote from page "During his time in Norway, he began work on his seminal novel Cry, The Beloved Country, which he completed over the course of his journey, finishing it on Christmas Eve in San Francisco in 1946.[1]" This cannot be true because I am holding Penguin Modern Classics copy of the book which has the following: Copyright Alan Paton 1944, first published Jonathan Cape, 1944, First published in Penguin Books 1958., reprinted 1959, 1960, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966 (twice) 1969. No ISBN Number. This probably needs to be corrected on the Alan Paton pages please.. There is no ISBN number in the Penguin Modern Classics copy and the details page does NOT specify the exact edition. But I assume it may be a 1969 version because the frontispiece includes the note that the Liberal Party in South Africa was disbanded in May 1968 'under persistent official pressure' But this version was printed in Great Britain by Hazell, Watson & Viney ltd, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, UK, and set in Linotype. Front Cover illustration: detail from 'Three Boys' by Marianne Podlashuc (photo by UCA studios) Back cover: Sold in UK for 20 p = 4/-, Australia $0.70, New Zealand $0.65, South Africa R0.50, For copyright reasons this edition is not for sale in the USA or Canada - details from back cover.
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Every publication I've seen about Alan Paton's work has this work titled as "The Waste Land", not "The Wasteland". It is also not a narrative poem. Is this a confusion between Paton's and T.S. Elliot's work? Seokzine ( talk) 18:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)