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If this page passed the DYK review, shouldn't it be upgraded to GA status? RobP ( talk) 12:48, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I think this section needs to be either removed or heavily redacted because it has no bearing on Alan Hale, as a person. He discovered the comet that these people took to be a sign that they needed to kill themselves. Something that he understood - as comets have a way of making some people think they're harbingers of doom. There is no need to have so much detail about a doomsday cult in an article about Hale - who is a scientist and was neither a member of the cult or connected to the cult. The section mentions Hale in connection to the cult in the last paragraph. This contravenes WP:UNDUE.
He made a comment about their being deaths attributable to the comet, and he was tragically right. A fact that could be reflected in one sentence not an entire sections. If readers want to know more about what inspired cult members to kill themselves, then they're perfectly able to click the link to the cult's article. It's misleading to have a section entitled Heaven's Gate when the link to Hale is tenuous. He didn't name the group, he just made a general comment that turned out to be correct. It's not needed and distracts from the scientific professional work of this man. 81.132.175.214 ( talk) 11:22, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
The photo now on the page is the only one currently in Commons. If you have an appropriate one, please upload it to Commons and let me know! RobP ( talk) 19:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
@ Rp2006: In the sentence "Hale was raised in Alamogordo where his father retired from the Air Force and worked in civil service.", a comma is needed after "Alamagordo" to set off a nonessential element ("where his father retired from the Air Force and worked in civil service.") See "Commas with Nonessential Elements" and Setting Off Non-restrictive Clauses; there are many similar grammar pages for you to study, if you wish. "Hale was raised in Alamogordo" conveys the main meaning of the sentence; the additional information about his father is just that, additional information. It is an unrestrictive clause. Chris the speller yack 16:19, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
@ Rp2006: Wikipedia does not capitalize job titles, no matter how "official" they are, per WP:JOBTITLES. Not even pope, king and chief executive officer are capitalized. Even if they are capitalized in a cited reference, they are not capitalized except in a direct quotation. Chris the speller yack 16:25, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
This page was Tweeted by Wikipedia's Twitter account on 11/8/16, resulting in over 13,000 pageviews (slightly more than its DYK posting results). [1] RobP ( talk) 19:23, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
This article's DYK appearance garnered enough pageviews, 12,110, to have it listed in the permanent DYK Statistics Archive. RobP ( talk) 19:32, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
This page was Tweeted by Wikipedia's Twitter account on 11/8/16, resulting in over 13,000 pageviews (slightly more than its DYK posting results). [2] RobP ( talk) 19:23, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
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If this page passed the DYK review, shouldn't it be upgraded to GA status? RobP ( talk) 12:48, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I think this section needs to be either removed or heavily redacted because it has no bearing on Alan Hale, as a person. He discovered the comet that these people took to be a sign that they needed to kill themselves. Something that he understood - as comets have a way of making some people think they're harbingers of doom. There is no need to have so much detail about a doomsday cult in an article about Hale - who is a scientist and was neither a member of the cult or connected to the cult. The section mentions Hale in connection to the cult in the last paragraph. This contravenes WP:UNDUE.
He made a comment about their being deaths attributable to the comet, and he was tragically right. A fact that could be reflected in one sentence not an entire sections. If readers want to know more about what inspired cult members to kill themselves, then they're perfectly able to click the link to the cult's article. It's misleading to have a section entitled Heaven's Gate when the link to Hale is tenuous. He didn't name the group, he just made a general comment that turned out to be correct. It's not needed and distracts from the scientific professional work of this man. 81.132.175.214 ( talk) 11:22, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
The photo now on the page is the only one currently in Commons. If you have an appropriate one, please upload it to Commons and let me know! RobP ( talk) 19:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
@ Rp2006: In the sentence "Hale was raised in Alamogordo where his father retired from the Air Force and worked in civil service.", a comma is needed after "Alamagordo" to set off a nonessential element ("where his father retired from the Air Force and worked in civil service.") See "Commas with Nonessential Elements" and Setting Off Non-restrictive Clauses; there are many similar grammar pages for you to study, if you wish. "Hale was raised in Alamogordo" conveys the main meaning of the sentence; the additional information about his father is just that, additional information. It is an unrestrictive clause. Chris the speller yack 16:19, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
@ Rp2006: Wikipedia does not capitalize job titles, no matter how "official" they are, per WP:JOBTITLES. Not even pope, king and chief executive officer are capitalized. Even if they are capitalized in a cited reference, they are not capitalized except in a direct quotation. Chris the speller yack 16:25, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
This page was Tweeted by Wikipedia's Twitter account on 11/8/16, resulting in over 13,000 pageviews (slightly more than its DYK posting results). [1] RobP ( talk) 19:23, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
This article's DYK appearance garnered enough pageviews, 12,110, to have it listed in the permanent DYK Statistics Archive. RobP ( talk) 19:32, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
This page was Tweeted by Wikipedia's Twitter account on 11/8/16, resulting in over 13,000 pageviews (slightly more than its DYK posting results). [2] RobP ( talk) 19:23, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
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