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The source given by @ FirefoxLSD: says: [Hunter] Davies asked the players about their politics and found nine of the 12 who expressed an opinion were Tory – Alan Mullery, Mike England, Martin Peters, Alan Gilzean, Phil Beal, Joe Kinnear, Ray Evans, Terry Naylor and Roger Morgan – while of the three Labour men – Ralph Coates, Cyril Knowles and Steve Perryman – only Perryman seemed to have any “political feeling”.
It then goes on to say most of the players were "apathetic Tories". I think it's a stretch to say that "Glizean is/was a Conservative". All that source supports is the notion that he would have voted Tory when Hunter Davies surveyed the Spurs players. It doesn't say anything about what political activity (if any) he may have undertaken, or if he expressed his views publicly. As the source also says, most footballers don't do this because they don't want the hassle. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 11:37, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
@ Lee Vilenski: Don't you think Gilzean's son is worth mentioning, linking too? I was about to put this ref next to him [1] before you removed that line. Govvy ( talk) 10:59, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
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The claim "before signing provisional forms with Dundee in January 1956 as a 17-year-old amateur. He played once for their youth team Dundee Violet, but then played again for Coupar Angus while working as a despatch clerk for a carpet manufacturer in Perth" would seem to suggest that Dundee Violet were Dundee F. C.'s youth team. However this has never been the case. Violet were, and are a Junior team, but "junior" in this context refers to Scottish junior football where the "junior" relates to the level of the game (ie below senior), not the age. Also while Dundee may have used Violet (and other Dundee junior teams at various times) to loan players to for experience, there as never been a formal link between the clubs and they are independent entities. Thus I think this statement needs to be reworded, because as it stands it is misleading at best. Dunarc ( talk) 20:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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The source given by @ FirefoxLSD: says: [Hunter] Davies asked the players about their politics and found nine of the 12 who expressed an opinion were Tory – Alan Mullery, Mike England, Martin Peters, Alan Gilzean, Phil Beal, Joe Kinnear, Ray Evans, Terry Naylor and Roger Morgan – while of the three Labour men – Ralph Coates, Cyril Knowles and Steve Perryman – only Perryman seemed to have any “political feeling”.
It then goes on to say most of the players were "apathetic Tories". I think it's a stretch to say that "Glizean is/was a Conservative". All that source supports is the notion that he would have voted Tory when Hunter Davies surveyed the Spurs players. It doesn't say anything about what political activity (if any) he may have undertaken, or if he expressed his views publicly. As the source also says, most footballers don't do this because they don't want the hassle. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 11:37, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
@ Lee Vilenski: Don't you think Gilzean's son is worth mentioning, linking too? I was about to put this ref next to him [1] before you removed that line. Govvy ( talk) 10:59, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
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The claim "before signing provisional forms with Dundee in January 1956 as a 17-year-old amateur. He played once for their youth team Dundee Violet, but then played again for Coupar Angus while working as a despatch clerk for a carpet manufacturer in Perth" would seem to suggest that Dundee Violet were Dundee F. C.'s youth team. However this has never been the case. Violet were, and are a Junior team, but "junior" in this context refers to Scottish junior football where the "junior" relates to the level of the game (ie below senior), not the age. Also while Dundee may have used Violet (and other Dundee junior teams at various times) to loan players to for experience, there as never been a formal link between the clubs and they are independent entities. Thus I think this statement needs to be reworded, because as it stands it is misleading at best. Dunarc ( talk) 20:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)