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Jay, is there a reason why we should link the pages in the footnotes? Google books is iffy with displaying pages depending on where you are, so clicking the link may work for some peopla and may not for others. My preference would be to not include a link unless it is near certain that it will work. Also, and this is probably the reason Im saying anything, it just looks off to me. But if they should be there Im fine with it, just wondering why. nableezy - 20:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
This isnt relevant to an article on the mosque. So what if a group held a rally at a mosque, what does that have to do with the mosque. Additionally, edit-warring isnt how you are supposed get material into an article. nableezy - 13:58, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Since a "new" user has seen fit to reinsert this material, this is still not a newspaper, and even if a source were to make the claim that the mosque held such a rally, which they dont, a single day's events in the thousand plus years of the history of this page does not merit such a section. nableezy - 21:50, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Ok. I think headline cleary emphasises "Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood holds anti-Semetic rally, draws thousands at Cairo’s top mosque vowing to ‘one day kill all the Jews’", and "A Muslim Brotherhood rally in Cairo's most prominent mosque and " the Muslim Brotherhood held a rally at the al Azhar mosque in Cairo which turned one of the most venomous anti-Semitic meetings in Egypt in recent times" so I disagree as they do talk about importance of the mosque. Also mosque religious leader spoke. I don't want to argue with you so what am I supposed to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalfile ( talk • contribs) 22:10, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
I will think about this as it is good example. If antisemitic rally is held in the UN, I think this is relevant. Also, it was end of service "A Muslim revival at Cairo’s most prominent mosque Friday that drew 5,000 worshippers reportedly turned into a hate-fueled rally, complete with repeated vows to “one day kill all the Jews." so was connected and imam spoke. This is different to your example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalfile ( talk • contribs) 22:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
You are right and this should be reported. But it still had a connection to mosque as it was a mosque service that became this hate rally. The context of the mosque is mentioned http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=247078 and the mosque imam said antisemitic things about Jews. This is more connected then UN example as the two are linked in sources, it was relgious service and Al azhar imam was part of it and spoke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalfile ( talk • contribs) 22:47, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
I did not realise a source must not be based on another. There are so many difficult rules. Maybe you are right but I wanted to show that I did not make up this connection and it was connected with the mosque. I was trying to show my behavior was good here as Nableezy said I was editting badly. Crystalfile ( talk) 23:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
I tried to show the link better in my edit and added a source showing how it was connected and not just a random place. Is this better? Crystalfile ( talk) 00:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Why do you say this if this was ending of a service and the mosque imam spoke to the crowd. Crystalfile ( talk) 10:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
All sources discuss the place and highlight that it happened at important mosque. It was part of the service. Look at "at Cairo’s most prominent mosque Friday that drew 5,000 worshippers reportedly turned into a hate-fueled rally". The imam of the mosque spoke. This means it is connected with Al azhar. Look at the headlines which highlight the place. You are not being accurate - see Ynet - "A Muslim Brotherhood rally in Cairo's most prominent mosque ". Why are you saying it happened outside? Crystalfile ( talk) 19:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
WP:SILLYEXAMPLES Were the homosexuals part of the vatican church service? Did their protest take place inside the vatican palace? Did the pope speak to the gays and tell them about the "trecherous straights" preventing unity. This is silly example becuase in this example there was a link with the mosque as i showed. Crystalfile ( talk) 20:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
whatever. y you keep on saying unrelated things? First about the vatican and now about plaques. This isnt relevant! I am saying that when sources make link as they do here, and imam of the mosque speaks at the rally, and this was involved with mosque service, it should be included. Crystalfile ( talk) 17:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
You dont understand WP:OWN! Sources say "A Muslim revival at Cairo’s most prominent mosque Friday that drew 5,000 worshippers reportedly turned into a hate-fueled rally" and also Ahmed Hazem in Daily News Egypt said that the event was organised by Al-Azhar according to El-Erian and was was attended by some Azhar scholars. Toodles. And of course the imam of al azhar addressed the rally. Crystalfile ( talk) 14:02, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
pls confirm if sources did say this was part of al azhar service, al azhar imam spoke at rally, it was organised by al azhar, held at al azhar mosque and al azhar scholars attended you will still oppose my edit? Toodles Crystalfile ( talk) 14:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
You still havnt answered the question! Toodles Crystalfile ( talk) 14:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Pls repeat it as I cant see it. a yes or no is enough! Toodles Crystalfile ( talk) 14:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
those were to different things. please answer "if sources did say this was part of al azhar service, al azhar imam spoke at rally, it was organised by al azhar, held at al azhar mosque and al azhar scholars attended you will still oppose my edit?". all i want is a direct answer - sorry if you have to repeat urself. thanks and toodles. Crystalfile ( talk) 18:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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The name "Bab al-Gindi" does not appear in the source that is cited for this subsection, and I have never seen the name "Bab al-Gindi" to describe Qaytbay's gate at al-Azhar (only ever the "Gate of Qaytbay" or "Qaytbay's gate", etc, which would translate as Bab Qaytbay). There is a "Bab al-Gindi" at Qaytbay's funerary complex in the Northern Cemetery, but I can find no source that gives the same name at this gate in al-Azhar. Before removing/changing it, does anyone know if this name is actually used for the gate? And a reliable source? (e.g. "Gindi" means soldier, I presume; is this a nickname for Qaytbay?) Cheers, Robert Prazeres ( talk) 07:06, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Ive gone back through the sources that I had saved off and I cannot find where Bab al-Gindi is from. The earliest reference I have to it on this page is here which referenced Rabbat 46-48 and indeed I cannot find al-Gindi on those pages. Creswell also does not mention al-Gindi. I'll remove it in the meantime but I'll keep digging through the sources. nableezy - 19:54, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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Jay, is there a reason why we should link the pages in the footnotes? Google books is iffy with displaying pages depending on where you are, so clicking the link may work for some peopla and may not for others. My preference would be to not include a link unless it is near certain that it will work. Also, and this is probably the reason Im saying anything, it just looks off to me. But if they should be there Im fine with it, just wondering why. nableezy - 20:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
This isnt relevant to an article on the mosque. So what if a group held a rally at a mosque, what does that have to do with the mosque. Additionally, edit-warring isnt how you are supposed get material into an article. nableezy - 13:58, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Since a "new" user has seen fit to reinsert this material, this is still not a newspaper, and even if a source were to make the claim that the mosque held such a rally, which they dont, a single day's events in the thousand plus years of the history of this page does not merit such a section. nableezy - 21:50, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Ok. I think headline cleary emphasises "Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood holds anti-Semetic rally, draws thousands at Cairo’s top mosque vowing to ‘one day kill all the Jews’", and "A Muslim Brotherhood rally in Cairo's most prominent mosque and " the Muslim Brotherhood held a rally at the al Azhar mosque in Cairo which turned one of the most venomous anti-Semitic meetings in Egypt in recent times" so I disagree as they do talk about importance of the mosque. Also mosque religious leader spoke. I don't want to argue with you so what am I supposed to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalfile ( talk • contribs) 22:10, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
I will think about this as it is good example. If antisemitic rally is held in the UN, I think this is relevant. Also, it was end of service "A Muslim revival at Cairo’s most prominent mosque Friday that drew 5,000 worshippers reportedly turned into a hate-fueled rally, complete with repeated vows to “one day kill all the Jews." so was connected and imam spoke. This is different to your example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalfile ( talk • contribs) 22:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
You are right and this should be reported. But it still had a connection to mosque as it was a mosque service that became this hate rally. The context of the mosque is mentioned http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=247078 and the mosque imam said antisemitic things about Jews. This is more connected then UN example as the two are linked in sources, it was relgious service and Al azhar imam was part of it and spoke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalfile ( talk • contribs) 22:47, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
I did not realise a source must not be based on another. There are so many difficult rules. Maybe you are right but I wanted to show that I did not make up this connection and it was connected with the mosque. I was trying to show my behavior was good here as Nableezy said I was editting badly. Crystalfile ( talk) 23:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
I tried to show the link better in my edit and added a source showing how it was connected and not just a random place. Is this better? Crystalfile ( talk) 00:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Why do you say this if this was ending of a service and the mosque imam spoke to the crowd. Crystalfile ( talk) 10:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
All sources discuss the place and highlight that it happened at important mosque. It was part of the service. Look at "at Cairo’s most prominent mosque Friday that drew 5,000 worshippers reportedly turned into a hate-fueled rally". The imam of the mosque spoke. This means it is connected with Al azhar. Look at the headlines which highlight the place. You are not being accurate - see Ynet - "A Muslim Brotherhood rally in Cairo's most prominent mosque ". Why are you saying it happened outside? Crystalfile ( talk) 19:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
WP:SILLYEXAMPLES Were the homosexuals part of the vatican church service? Did their protest take place inside the vatican palace? Did the pope speak to the gays and tell them about the "trecherous straights" preventing unity. This is silly example becuase in this example there was a link with the mosque as i showed. Crystalfile ( talk) 20:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
whatever. y you keep on saying unrelated things? First about the vatican and now about plaques. This isnt relevant! I am saying that when sources make link as they do here, and imam of the mosque speaks at the rally, and this was involved with mosque service, it should be included. Crystalfile ( talk) 17:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
You dont understand WP:OWN! Sources say "A Muslim revival at Cairo’s most prominent mosque Friday that drew 5,000 worshippers reportedly turned into a hate-fueled rally" and also Ahmed Hazem in Daily News Egypt said that the event was organised by Al-Azhar according to El-Erian and was was attended by some Azhar scholars. Toodles. And of course the imam of al azhar addressed the rally. Crystalfile ( talk) 14:02, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
pls confirm if sources did say this was part of al azhar service, al azhar imam spoke at rally, it was organised by al azhar, held at al azhar mosque and al azhar scholars attended you will still oppose my edit? Toodles Crystalfile ( talk) 14:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
You still havnt answered the question! Toodles Crystalfile ( talk) 14:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Pls repeat it as I cant see it. a yes or no is enough! Toodles Crystalfile ( talk) 14:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
those were to different things. please answer "if sources did say this was part of al azhar service, al azhar imam spoke at rally, it was organised by al azhar, held at al azhar mosque and al azhar scholars attended you will still oppose my edit?". all i want is a direct answer - sorry if you have to repeat urself. thanks and toodles. Crystalfile ( talk) 18:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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The name "Bab al-Gindi" does not appear in the source that is cited for this subsection, and I have never seen the name "Bab al-Gindi" to describe Qaytbay's gate at al-Azhar (only ever the "Gate of Qaytbay" or "Qaytbay's gate", etc, which would translate as Bab Qaytbay). There is a "Bab al-Gindi" at Qaytbay's funerary complex in the Northern Cemetery, but I can find no source that gives the same name at this gate in al-Azhar. Before removing/changing it, does anyone know if this name is actually used for the gate? And a reliable source? (e.g. "Gindi" means soldier, I presume; is this a nickname for Qaytbay?) Cheers, Robert Prazeres ( talk) 07:06, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Ive gone back through the sources that I had saved off and I cannot find where Bab al-Gindi is from. The earliest reference I have to it on this page is here which referenced Rabbat 46-48 and indeed I cannot find al-Gindi on those pages. Creswell also does not mention al-Gindi. I'll remove it in the meantime but I'll keep digging through the sources. nableezy - 19:54, 20 November 2019 (UTC)