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does anybody know about a connection between danzo and tobi because i've been told that theres a japanese legend that includes a character with the combination of danzo and tobi's name just wondering if anybody knew something about that and no i dont know the name of the legend or what its about, sorry-- Zetsuie 02:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
On the Akatsuki page, under descriptions of rings, the editors made a typo.
For Tobi's ring, the letter means "jade" in english, nothing else.
can anyone else find other typos? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jayboi012 ( talk • contribs) 23:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i think Itachi should get his own main page. i think he certainly has enough background information on him, and i think he plays a good enough role to get his own page. Does anyone else think this? 24.185.163.37 23:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
lol. i think itachi should get his own page because even though hes not that major, itachi plays a huge role in sasuke's life, who plays a big role in naruto's life, whos the main character. just a thought... KKIPPES 05:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... good point... but maybe since he's after naruto, the vessel of the strongest tailed beast yet, he plays a huge role in akatsuki. KKIPPES 05:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
What? Is this debate already resolved? I really think Itachi should have his own article. Kakuzu and Hidan both have their own articles, and Itachi doesn't have one! His story is really important if one wants to know about Sasuke's story and motivations. And as for the fights, Itachi already had many fights. He fought with Kakashi, Kurenai, Jiraiya, Sasuke (a very brief one), did some sort of clone jutsu and fought Naruto and Kakashi, and then he also appeared in Orochimaru's memories in the manga, where he apparently used his sharingan to deflect his jutsu. That is enough material to create a main article with. And being clearly one of the key characters that propel the plot, the reason for Sasuke's defection to Konoha, which in turn is the reason for Naruto trying to master a new jutsu, which in turn, basically, is the whole I'm-getting-my-friend-back plot of the story -- this guy long deserves to have his own article. Moonwalkerwiz 06:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Itachi should have his own page period. Zabooza 22:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC) I'll make two points: A) Tenten has an article, and she's one of the most minor characters appearing in more than one non-filler arc in the series. B) Itachi is one of the three characters that tranforms everything into the series BESIDES the first three Hokages, who were so long ago they HAD to be important. The three are the Fourth Hokage, Orochimaru, and Irachi.
I'll also say this: Itachi joined Akatsuki AT LEAST when he was 11. Proof: Orochimaru left the Akatsuki seven years before Part I ended, when Itachi was 11. In the flashback during the recent Sasuke-Orochimaru fight, both Itachi and Orochimaru wear Akatsuki uniforms, so this is before Orochimaru left Akatsuki and after Itachi joined. This is before he killed the Uchiha Clan, so not only does this disprove the thought he joined because he killed the clan, it also reveals jsut how powerful he is.
I also have a solution to the article: We create one, but do not post a link to it outside this topic. We constantly edit it until we feel it has enough information. This follows what both sides want. The article isn't shown yet but still exists. And don't worry, judging by the last chapter shown, then the article might have enough info very soon. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:16 Eastern Standard Time, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
I do belive that itachi should have his own article. He does play an important role in the series, he is tied into the capturing narutos demon and he is being chased around by sauske who is trying to kill him. -- Had24get2ice 20:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
i just recently decided to re-read all the 2 year time skip stuff and now i've decided to read everything, and i've kinda noticed that some members of akatsuki have little charms [1] [2] (or w/e they are) hanging off of their hats while others do not... does anyone think this is of any significance or just something like how you can choose what you wear? i'll include a list below of everyone i've noticed has one
Ancientanubis 22:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hes right. once Kishimoto-sensei details on it a bit we wont know for sure. but maybe theyve been there long enough to get one? ok idk. but that is just my opinion. KKIPPES 05:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
It seems he had a different seiyu in that episode. Did they list who it is? If so, it should be listed here too, hmph. ^_^ JuJube 00:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I bumped into a Wikipedia mirror that states that Deidara's catchphrase "Geijutsu wa bakuhatsu da" (Art is a bang) was a "famous phrase of [Okamoto] Taro". If that's true (and I mean true as in the guy said exactly that), does it warrant a mention, or was it just vandalism? I couldn't find anything about it on the talk pages. ^_^ JuJube 07:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
You don't have to call my ideas garbage. I didn't post on the actual article because I said it was speculation. However, it was a good theory from decent evidence. I don't think you have a better theory yourself, but if you do, I will be glad to hear it. Otherwise, avoid the personal attacks and shut up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kukuzuthe9999 ( talk • contribs) 18:48, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
ya ya, ik this isnt a "forum" type place, but i can make this work for it
Well, a picture of him in his Akatsuki outfit might be better than his original hand with a ring. 24.35.81.34 14:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that it would be better than the severed hand. Lightning Sword 21:53, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
The picture of the ring dosent really show Orochimaru though. I think that you should just use a picture showing him from Naruto 1 or something. All the other members have their faces in the pictures. 82.69.83.28 20:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
since the new manga came out we see that itachi had a confrontation with Orochimaru (since Orochimaru tried getting itachis body). Itachi used genjutsu on him and when Orochimaru tried to use a jutsu Itachi cut off Orochimarus hand .... i think that should be added in itachis history —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.84.124.203 ( talk) 08:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC).
yet it does have an importance to itachi not only does he show how powerfull he was and is my beating Oro so easy it also shows his personal outlook of Oro JKAP2KAP 04:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
To the one above Gunslinger47: If orochi cared and itachi didn't, then why would it be in itachi's page? Orochi was like a mosquito, to use Gunslinger47's metaphor (or something like that). If you had an autobiography, would you put that you swatted a fly? if that fly survived, and it magically recieved the ability to write, it probably would, but you wouldnt. KKIPPES 06:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
no it is important to itachi...he is responsible for Oro leaving Akatsuki and to say Oro is a fly is a little wierd he is very important character to say there wasnt any relationship between Oro and itachi is just wrong and this is on a Akatsuki page and it effects all of Akatsuki JKAP2KAP 16:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
no itachi encounter with Oro is important in itachis history we have very little on itachis time in Akatsuki it shows part of his history when somone looks up itachi on Wikipedia its to learn about him and beating Oro the way itachi did is somthing somone would want to know JKAP2KAP 20:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
JKAP2KAP, the information is important... to oro. take ancientanubis and gunslinger's thoughts to mind on this one. itachi did not care. itachi could hand oro's butt to him on a silver platter. To itachi, IT. DOESN'T. MATTER. To oro, IT. DOES. but its already listed there. can we stop this debate here? KKIPPES 06:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
he is the only one to not have one on this page, why? Letuce 20:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone fix the article to say he is in fact a guy.
what chapter does Tobi fight the three tailed beji?
thnakes —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.176.173.43 ( talk) 23:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC).
lolz, gunslinger your such a atrickster:P.... Ancientanubis 17:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Itachi and Deidara should have their own separate articles. Moonwalkerwiz 06:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah let's see here, first welcome back Someguy, next, that guideline is mine not Gunslinger's and lastly at least I set limits for myself instead of asking for every akatsuki member to have his own article so i'm not as persistent as I used to be 8 or nine monthes ago. Again welcome back Someguy. ^_^ Sam ov the blue sand 22:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Even though plenty of work has gone into the articles, do we really need them? They were around for like thirty chapters each, did nothing too notable in those chapters, really just served in "villain of the week" roles, and aren't important to the series itself. Nemu 01:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
How is Zetsu a cannibal? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.68.211.16 ( talk • contribs).
Someone should really add a picture of the akatuski city to the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.65.5 ( talk • contribs).
I still think there should be one.
There isn't enough information on the Akatsuki to make an article on it. The article would be a one-sentence stub, something like, "A city that the Akatsuki Leader has been seen in, proposed city ruled by the Akatsuki." Wait until we have more information on the city to try and make an article about it. Manga_King
um i think he just wanted to add a pic of the panel with the AL looking out at the city in chp 329 (i think)so i dont see much harm in adding a simple picand im pretty sure no one mentioned creating an article about a place that has only been shown once and its not all that irrelevant considering thats where there headquaters is probably-- Zetsuie 04:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
look i dont care about the pic i was just saying read something right before screaming at them on wikipedia about something they never said-- Zetsuie 05:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Anything related to Akatsuki should be added to the article, so the city picture should already be here. Zabooza 22:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Hidan be listed under "Former Members?" He's gravely incapacitated, and the Akatsuki obviously don't want him anymore seeing as how no one has come back for him. They could put him back together, but haven't. Manga_King
True... it also just occured to me that no one has dug up Hidan's remains to reclaim his Akatsuki ring. What's your opinion, though? Do you think the Akatsuki still want Hidan, or not? I personally think that they don't want him anymore. Manga_King
It should say unknown instead of incapacitated. We do not know if he is even alive. Gune 16:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
You don't know he is alive or not because it has not been shown in the manga yet. Gune 03:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes that is true. However since we have not seen his head talking or a scene in the manga stating that he is still alive then it is entirely speculation. His head also talked before the rocks crashed on him Gune 07:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Well I guess you got the confirmation you were looking for since he was definitively stated to be dead by the AL in chapter 353. The AL who can contact these guys at any time so he should know. Zetsu seems to have witnessed the fight and might have finished what was left of Hidan. Remember, Kakuzu also said no one is immortal, so I guess Kishimoto was hinting back then. Kishimoto can do anything he wants and if he wants Hidan dead, then he will be dead. Dunnlo 19:46, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Hidan is dead. It is really stupid to state him as expelled. Kishimoto specifically stated that he is dead. (Through the words of the AL) Gune 21:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually I'm not. Its actually unknown what he said. Since what he said could have multiple meanings. However saying he is expelled is wrong. Where in the manga did the AL say that he is expelling Hidan from Akatsuki?
Gune
01:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
That doesn't mean he expelled him. Gune 01:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
First of all, allow me to apologise for my rude behaviour. I shouldn't have kept changing teh article, but instead start a discussion here.
Now that that's out of the way, where exactly has Zetsu used this Byakugan-like ability of his? Every time he spied on someone, he was actually very near to them. I'm not saying he can't possibly have some kind of Dōjutsu. I'm just saying that there isn't any proof of one.
I don't think the article should say Zetsu can see far-away objects, when he has never been shown to have such an ability. -- JadziaLover 21:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know much about Naruto: Shippuden, living in America (I wish I were Japanese, they take forever to translate the manga and anime into English!), but could the Leader possibly be referring to something that no one has thought of, like ranged ninjutsu or range he can throw a shuriken at? Those are two completely random examples which should be disregarded, but when Masashi had the Leader say that he was probably referring to a kekkei genkai that Zetsu posesses that has nothing to do with eyes and hasn't been revealed yet. Manga_King
I'm phrasing it as an "apparent suicide" rather than a "suicide", since it's all but confirmed that Itachi did it. If there's a better word for it, like "alleged", well, whatever works.
Seraphchoir 15:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
If Itachi gained mangekou sharingan, I think it is completely clear that he did murder Shishui. I dont think the word "almost" should come into it. It is mentioned that Shishui was "like a brother" to Itachi. Stylishman 21:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Itachi admitted to Sasuke that he had killed Shisui to obtain Mangekyou Sharingan Zabooza 22:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, to short it down as much as possible...
-- 81.228.148.65 20:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, personally, I don't think Akatsuki means "dawn" or "daybreak". Rather, I think it means Red Cloud. Aka translated into English means red, and if memory serves me right, tsuki means cloud. I think this makes WAY more scence since they DO have red clouds on their cloaks.
Aka/Beni = Red/Scarlet, Tsuki/Getsu = The Moon. Akatsuki = Red Moon, and it's used to say 'dawn' in japanese. Zabooza 22:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Could someone make Itachi Uchiha a seperate page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.205.94 ( talk) 01:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC).
It is a woman.
Under the section of the article regarding the Akatsuki members' headbands, it says "they cut there headbands cause evry guy is emo". WTF? 1.) That's opionated. and 2.) That's totally false. Putting a slash through a forehead protector is a symbol of deviation, saying "This village is pathetic and doomed to die". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tybre ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC).
When I saw it, I immediately went here. I never got the chance to see it changed until just now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tybre ( talk • contribs).
Yeah, but my comp wouldn't let me edit stuff yesterday. No clue why. I'm glad it is today. I just made a page for my school cause there wasn't one. Ah, I know why: Semi-Protection. This is day 2 for me. Under forehead protectors (headbands) it says Hidan's is unknown, but Hidan's is the Village Hidden in the Rain.
It says there that Akatsuki currently has 8 rings. Because Orochimaru's body still has it, and Konoha has Kakuzu's.... shouldn't it say that they only have 7? Because it does not say they have Hidan's. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.65.5 ( talk • contribs).
Exactly so that means Akatuski only has Seven Rings not eight like it says on the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.65.5 ( talk • contribs).
Like they care about Hidan. All that's left of him is his head. They can't reconstruct his body even if they wanted to. It's all dismembered. If they ever find him will be for the ring but yea whatever I was just stating the obvious. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.65.5 ( talk • contribs).
Well putting Hidan might not be possible. putting him back together was Kakuzu job,and now that he's dead........,but other then that i agree hat since he's still alive he is still considered a member of akatsuki Allen Walker 08:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
hmm have any of you looked in youtube?
if u type akatsuki leader 1-20 clips shows a comic book that tells about akatsuki leader as bieng 4th hokage.
maybe its true maybe its not. - Akizaki
Absolutely proven photoshop. And don't say it's Uchiha Madara. Masashi Kishomoto has released drawings of Madara and his silhoette/lower face look nothing the leader's. The leader is somebody new. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tybre ( talk • contribs).
First of all, I agree Itachi should have his own page. After all, he's the only akatsuki member(active member)that hailed from the Hidden Leaf Village. And I would like to back up the fact that he played a major role in Sasuke's life. Aside from this, Sakura Haruno mentioned that he is their worst enemy. Most of all, he's obviously one of the most popular character in the Narutoverse.
Second, I believe that Itachi is an expert taijutsu user. He was once an ANBU team captain after all(all ANBU needs to be expert in tai, gen, and nin-jutsu to be able to cope up with the different fighting skills of the enemy. He may have started using genjutsu when he acquired the MS. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.105.76.237 ( talk) 04:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
If Orochimaru left akutsuki 7 years before the start of the series (after he tried to take Itachi) then does that mean that itachi was 10 or 11 when he joined Akatsuki? 66.68.245.197 16:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
The article states it. 66.68.245.205 21:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I think he's correct. He once wielded a sword, and remember the scene where little Sasuke was watching Itachi practicing with kunai's. That I think is enough proof of significant taijutsu skills. Another thing, the night he killed his entire clan, he mutilated them using taijutsu, and not spamming amaterasu.
Another thing, when three members of the Uchiha speculated him as the murderer of his best friend, he unquestionably battled them using taijutsu. He did'nt used exploding bunshin, or Tsukuyomi, or pupil techniques, or other ninjutsu. They were clearly battered physically. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.105.76.237 ( talk) 04:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC).
remember when he caught Sasuke's chidori? or the immense strength of his kicks and punches? how he kicked Kurenai(which was effortless by the way, yet Kurenai was knocked back probably a good 15 feet). I would like to make a comment on how he caught the chidori: the speed... reminds me of Mito Gai... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.69.209.86 ( talk) 10:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC).
actually swor wielding is called kenjutsu-- 209.159.197.82 01:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
we have yet to see any prove of that stament since about no one in the narutoverse has been seen using a sword and i say we call it kenjutsu -- jj15
in the ninjutsu list, other media, where's the technique that itachi uses which somehow is very similar to kakashi's when he attempted to cut deidera's head and devour the explosion? in naruto shippuuden, itachi, under tsukuyumi aura, can use the same technique(PS 2) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.105.76.237 ( talk) 04:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC).
yo all, ik this is not akatsuki related but i was tryin 2 figure out what template gave the talk page the nice new location for the ToC as i am thinkin of incorporating it to another page i work on... thanks Ancientanubis, talk 23:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
{| class="infobox" style="background: #F8EABA;" | __TOC__ |}
We might need to revisit this fact. He doesn't wear a headband period in the anime. At the very least, we'll need a better scan or something showing his headdband. — Someguy0830 ( T | C) 20:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
In volume 27, when Kakashi takes Naruto, you can roughly see his handband on his chest. It's alittle foggy, but it seems to be from the Grass village. [5] This is it, but I'll have to find a better quality version. DarkRyan75 22:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I just thought of an answer to these constant pleads to make an Itachi article: We make it. But we don't post it anywhere on wikipedia except this discussion page right here. We constantly edit it until it has enough information for a wikipedia article, then put it elsewhere.
And judging by our last chapter, it seems that mabye it would be filled soon if we go along with this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artist Formerly Known As Whocares ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
But there are plenty of other anime characters who have done even less of a role in their series than Itachi and they have articles. (Tenten, and from One Piece Axe-Hand Morgan, Monkey D. Dragon, and Darcule 'Hawkeye' Mihawk) If so, shouldn't Itachi have one too? And I do agree, he doesn't have as much a role in the series as he should, and somebody should put more effort into his article than copy/paste.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artist Formerly Known As Whocares ( talk • contribs).
Oh, the clamor for Itachi's page! I wonder when they'll realize that there's enough info about him to make an article? Moonwalkerwiz 07:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, considering how now every article is jsut about history, personality, and abilities, this means that Itachi can have an article, because he has enoguh for all three subjects. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:25 (Eastern Standard Time), 19 May, 2007
according to the data book, what are the character stats of Uchiha Itachi? please share... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.97.227.120 ( talk) 09:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
ya kno, that is a great question... i've kinda wanted to see one of the data books....
Ancientanubis,
talk
03:50, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
where can I find the data book that you just said...? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.97.227.120 ( talk) 08:55, 10 May 2007 (UTC). also, look to the above topic about itachi bein a taijutsu user:)... Ancientanubis, talk 16:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
It seems pretty clear to me that the Leader doesn't really have any interest in bringing back Hidan's head based on the latest chapter. He just says "They've both been killed" when asked about Hidan and Kakuzu. I don't think Hidan has any more use for Akatsuki. The Splendiferous Gegiford 20:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree. He's dead to Akatsuki now. We should move him -- Count Mall 20:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Hidan's status also be changed from "Incapacitated" to "Deceased"? The AL didn't mince any words. He didn't say he was defeated, but alive. Like the way many people thought. Nor did he say he was beyond help and couldn't be repaired. He said Kakuzu and Hidan were both dead. Unlike with Orochimaru, the Leader is in constant contact with his subordinates. So while you can argue that the Leader might not be able to give us a definitive word about Orochimaru, meaning he could still be alive, there can't be any question that he knows about Hidan's status. It seems it would be best to go with what canon tells us. Hidan is dead. Dunnlo 23:50, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't say Hidan is "dead", considering he is immortal. However, the Leader has no purpose for him anymore. He's definitely a former member now.Ikani87 00:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Regardless of whether the verb was lost in translation (which is unlikely, since the word and verb death//to die is not ambiguous from Japanese to English), I agree wholeheartedly in changing Hidan's status to dead. People of semantics will continue to argue this, but what you forget is how Naruto usually operates. If they claim he's "dead", or as people who feel it's lost in translation, "incapacitated", "lost", "wounded", "whatever", it's been addressed as of manga 353 that he is considered dead. As people brought up, what is canon is right, and not our speculation. Thus, it is in need of changing. 74.12.4.111 13:36, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Joe Caron
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/vol27.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=13547 http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/vol27.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=13548
On Zetsu first appearance, he is talking with his another personality, but looks like that the another personality is that eyes and month like in his chest...
ok so i changed this:
The amount of chakra Kisame possesses is apparently very large, even by Akatsuki's standards. Their leader commented on this; a Kisame body-double at thirty-percent power – made with the leader's Shapeshifting Technique – had as much chakra as Naruto while drawing on demon fox's chakra when he fought Neji during the Chunin exams, an observation made by Neji Hyuga when he observed Kisame's body-double with his Byakugan.
to this:
The amount of chakra Kisame possesses is apparently very large, even by Akatsuki's standards. Their leader commented on this; a Kisame body-double at thirty-percent power – made with the leader's Shapeshifting Technique – had th most chakra neji has seen since naruto thus meaning that kisame has tons of chakra. because he didnt say that he had as much chakra as naruto did while drwing on the demon fox's chakra that's just speculation —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jackjohnson15 ( talk • contribs) 17:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
I don't know. Your versions seems kind of poorly written. I mean, "kisame has tons of chakra?" There must be a better way to put that. 24.35.33.81 23:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
um shouldent some one add what Tobi does in the newest chapter?
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter353mq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=41003 24.205.255.129 17:44, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
According to the most recent chapter of Naruto, Orochimaru left ten years ago, after the incident with Itachi, when both were members. With this information, we now know he joined at age 10, or possibly earlier. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artist Formerly Known As Whocares ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
its quite unusual for a 10 year old to join akatsuki. so this means that itachi was already an S - rank shinobi by that age. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.69.208.57 ( talk) 15:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC).
I know when Itachi Joined he was 15 when he joined Akatsuki. See if he was 15 years old it would make perfect sense because now sasuke is acting exactly like itachi was at 15. See like Tsunade and Sakura Tsunade became a medical-nin at 15 because her brother and lover died. And sakura is now exactly like Tsunade. that you guys have to beileve! Akatsuki0E 20:44, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
That's really just a speculation that uses other, most likely coincidental, similar instances.
Why don't we add this to the Itachi section?
There is quite some controversy over when Itachi joined Akatsuki. Although logically it appeared that Itachi joined Akatsuki after he killed the Uchiha Clan, Chapter 238 revealed that Orochimaru left Akatsuki 7 years before the timeskip. Do to Orochimaru briefly mentioning that he left Akatsuki because of Itachi, this left several questions. Recently, in Sasuke's fight with Orochimaru, Orochimaru's flashback revealed that Itachi easily defeated him, which prompted Orochimaru's leaving and caused more mysteries over when he joined. In Chapter 353, after the timeskip, Kisame briefly mentions Orochimaru leaving Akatsuki ten years ago. With the following information, it can be assumed he joined at either 10 or 11, but whether he joined at that age or not has yet to be revealed.
This is only just stating the evidence, so it is acceptable for a Wikipedia article. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 15:40 (Eastern Standard Time, 14 May 2007.
He could have joined Akatsuki before he killed the clan, acting like an agent for Akatsuki in Konoha or waiting for the right opportunity to kill the clan and become a real member. Jacce 10:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
hi I was wondering waht chapter did Zetsu eat Sasoris dead body?
p.s shouldent some one add that to the article? 24.205.255.129 05:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.255.129 ( talk) 05:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC).
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does anybody know about a connection between danzo and tobi because i've been told that theres a japanese legend that includes a character with the combination of danzo and tobi's name just wondering if anybody knew something about that and no i dont know the name of the legend or what its about, sorry-- Zetsuie 02:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
On the Akatsuki page, under descriptions of rings, the editors made a typo.
For Tobi's ring, the letter means "jade" in english, nothing else.
can anyone else find other typos? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jayboi012 ( talk • contribs) 23:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i think Itachi should get his own main page. i think he certainly has enough background information on him, and i think he plays a good enough role to get his own page. Does anyone else think this? 24.185.163.37 23:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
lol. i think itachi should get his own page because even though hes not that major, itachi plays a huge role in sasuke's life, who plays a big role in naruto's life, whos the main character. just a thought... KKIPPES 05:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... good point... but maybe since he's after naruto, the vessel of the strongest tailed beast yet, he plays a huge role in akatsuki. KKIPPES 05:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
What? Is this debate already resolved? I really think Itachi should have his own article. Kakuzu and Hidan both have their own articles, and Itachi doesn't have one! His story is really important if one wants to know about Sasuke's story and motivations. And as for the fights, Itachi already had many fights. He fought with Kakashi, Kurenai, Jiraiya, Sasuke (a very brief one), did some sort of clone jutsu and fought Naruto and Kakashi, and then he also appeared in Orochimaru's memories in the manga, where he apparently used his sharingan to deflect his jutsu. That is enough material to create a main article with. And being clearly one of the key characters that propel the plot, the reason for Sasuke's defection to Konoha, which in turn is the reason for Naruto trying to master a new jutsu, which in turn, basically, is the whole I'm-getting-my-friend-back plot of the story -- this guy long deserves to have his own article. Moonwalkerwiz 06:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Itachi should have his own page period. Zabooza 22:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC) I'll make two points: A) Tenten has an article, and she's one of the most minor characters appearing in more than one non-filler arc in the series. B) Itachi is one of the three characters that tranforms everything into the series BESIDES the first three Hokages, who were so long ago they HAD to be important. The three are the Fourth Hokage, Orochimaru, and Irachi.
I'll also say this: Itachi joined Akatsuki AT LEAST when he was 11. Proof: Orochimaru left the Akatsuki seven years before Part I ended, when Itachi was 11. In the flashback during the recent Sasuke-Orochimaru fight, both Itachi and Orochimaru wear Akatsuki uniforms, so this is before Orochimaru left Akatsuki and after Itachi joined. This is before he killed the Uchiha Clan, so not only does this disprove the thought he joined because he killed the clan, it also reveals jsut how powerful he is.
I also have a solution to the article: We create one, but do not post a link to it outside this topic. We constantly edit it until we feel it has enough information. This follows what both sides want. The article isn't shown yet but still exists. And don't worry, judging by the last chapter shown, then the article might have enough info very soon. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:16 Eastern Standard Time, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
I do belive that itachi should have his own article. He does play an important role in the series, he is tied into the capturing narutos demon and he is being chased around by sauske who is trying to kill him. -- Had24get2ice 20:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
i just recently decided to re-read all the 2 year time skip stuff and now i've decided to read everything, and i've kinda noticed that some members of akatsuki have little charms [1] [2] (or w/e they are) hanging off of their hats while others do not... does anyone think this is of any significance or just something like how you can choose what you wear? i'll include a list below of everyone i've noticed has one
Ancientanubis 22:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hes right. once Kishimoto-sensei details on it a bit we wont know for sure. but maybe theyve been there long enough to get one? ok idk. but that is just my opinion. KKIPPES 05:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
It seems he had a different seiyu in that episode. Did they list who it is? If so, it should be listed here too, hmph. ^_^ JuJube 00:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I bumped into a Wikipedia mirror that states that Deidara's catchphrase "Geijutsu wa bakuhatsu da" (Art is a bang) was a "famous phrase of [Okamoto] Taro". If that's true (and I mean true as in the guy said exactly that), does it warrant a mention, or was it just vandalism? I couldn't find anything about it on the talk pages. ^_^ JuJube 07:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
You don't have to call my ideas garbage. I didn't post on the actual article because I said it was speculation. However, it was a good theory from decent evidence. I don't think you have a better theory yourself, but if you do, I will be glad to hear it. Otherwise, avoid the personal attacks and shut up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kukuzuthe9999 ( talk • contribs) 18:48, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
ya ya, ik this isnt a "forum" type place, but i can make this work for it
Well, a picture of him in his Akatsuki outfit might be better than his original hand with a ring. 24.35.81.34 14:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that it would be better than the severed hand. Lightning Sword 21:53, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
The picture of the ring dosent really show Orochimaru though. I think that you should just use a picture showing him from Naruto 1 or something. All the other members have their faces in the pictures. 82.69.83.28 20:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
since the new manga came out we see that itachi had a confrontation with Orochimaru (since Orochimaru tried getting itachis body). Itachi used genjutsu on him and when Orochimaru tried to use a jutsu Itachi cut off Orochimarus hand .... i think that should be added in itachis history —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.84.124.203 ( talk) 08:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC).
yet it does have an importance to itachi not only does he show how powerfull he was and is my beating Oro so easy it also shows his personal outlook of Oro JKAP2KAP 04:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
To the one above Gunslinger47: If orochi cared and itachi didn't, then why would it be in itachi's page? Orochi was like a mosquito, to use Gunslinger47's metaphor (or something like that). If you had an autobiography, would you put that you swatted a fly? if that fly survived, and it magically recieved the ability to write, it probably would, but you wouldnt. KKIPPES 06:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
no it is important to itachi...he is responsible for Oro leaving Akatsuki and to say Oro is a fly is a little wierd he is very important character to say there wasnt any relationship between Oro and itachi is just wrong and this is on a Akatsuki page and it effects all of Akatsuki JKAP2KAP 16:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
no itachi encounter with Oro is important in itachis history we have very little on itachis time in Akatsuki it shows part of his history when somone looks up itachi on Wikipedia its to learn about him and beating Oro the way itachi did is somthing somone would want to know JKAP2KAP 20:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
JKAP2KAP, the information is important... to oro. take ancientanubis and gunslinger's thoughts to mind on this one. itachi did not care. itachi could hand oro's butt to him on a silver platter. To itachi, IT. DOESN'T. MATTER. To oro, IT. DOES. but its already listed there. can we stop this debate here? KKIPPES 06:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
he is the only one to not have one on this page, why? Letuce 20:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone fix the article to say he is in fact a guy.
what chapter does Tobi fight the three tailed beji?
thnakes —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.176.173.43 ( talk) 23:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC).
lolz, gunslinger your such a atrickster:P.... Ancientanubis 17:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Itachi and Deidara should have their own separate articles. Moonwalkerwiz 06:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah let's see here, first welcome back Someguy, next, that guideline is mine not Gunslinger's and lastly at least I set limits for myself instead of asking for every akatsuki member to have his own article so i'm not as persistent as I used to be 8 or nine monthes ago. Again welcome back Someguy. ^_^ Sam ov the blue sand 22:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Even though plenty of work has gone into the articles, do we really need them? They were around for like thirty chapters each, did nothing too notable in those chapters, really just served in "villain of the week" roles, and aren't important to the series itself. Nemu 01:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
How is Zetsu a cannibal? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.68.211.16 ( talk • contribs).
Someone should really add a picture of the akatuski city to the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.65.5 ( talk • contribs).
I still think there should be one.
There isn't enough information on the Akatsuki to make an article on it. The article would be a one-sentence stub, something like, "A city that the Akatsuki Leader has been seen in, proposed city ruled by the Akatsuki." Wait until we have more information on the city to try and make an article about it. Manga_King
um i think he just wanted to add a pic of the panel with the AL looking out at the city in chp 329 (i think)so i dont see much harm in adding a simple picand im pretty sure no one mentioned creating an article about a place that has only been shown once and its not all that irrelevant considering thats where there headquaters is probably-- Zetsuie 04:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
look i dont care about the pic i was just saying read something right before screaming at them on wikipedia about something they never said-- Zetsuie 05:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Anything related to Akatsuki should be added to the article, so the city picture should already be here. Zabooza 22:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Hidan be listed under "Former Members?" He's gravely incapacitated, and the Akatsuki obviously don't want him anymore seeing as how no one has come back for him. They could put him back together, but haven't. Manga_King
True... it also just occured to me that no one has dug up Hidan's remains to reclaim his Akatsuki ring. What's your opinion, though? Do you think the Akatsuki still want Hidan, or not? I personally think that they don't want him anymore. Manga_King
It should say unknown instead of incapacitated. We do not know if he is even alive. Gune 16:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
You don't know he is alive or not because it has not been shown in the manga yet. Gune 03:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes that is true. However since we have not seen his head talking or a scene in the manga stating that he is still alive then it is entirely speculation. His head also talked before the rocks crashed on him Gune 07:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Well I guess you got the confirmation you were looking for since he was definitively stated to be dead by the AL in chapter 353. The AL who can contact these guys at any time so he should know. Zetsu seems to have witnessed the fight and might have finished what was left of Hidan. Remember, Kakuzu also said no one is immortal, so I guess Kishimoto was hinting back then. Kishimoto can do anything he wants and if he wants Hidan dead, then he will be dead. Dunnlo 19:46, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Hidan is dead. It is really stupid to state him as expelled. Kishimoto specifically stated that he is dead. (Through the words of the AL) Gune 21:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually I'm not. Its actually unknown what he said. Since what he said could have multiple meanings. However saying he is expelled is wrong. Where in the manga did the AL say that he is expelling Hidan from Akatsuki?
Gune
01:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
That doesn't mean he expelled him. Gune 01:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
First of all, allow me to apologise for my rude behaviour. I shouldn't have kept changing teh article, but instead start a discussion here.
Now that that's out of the way, where exactly has Zetsu used this Byakugan-like ability of his? Every time he spied on someone, he was actually very near to them. I'm not saying he can't possibly have some kind of Dōjutsu. I'm just saying that there isn't any proof of one.
I don't think the article should say Zetsu can see far-away objects, when he has never been shown to have such an ability. -- JadziaLover 21:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know much about Naruto: Shippuden, living in America (I wish I were Japanese, they take forever to translate the manga and anime into English!), but could the Leader possibly be referring to something that no one has thought of, like ranged ninjutsu or range he can throw a shuriken at? Those are two completely random examples which should be disregarded, but when Masashi had the Leader say that he was probably referring to a kekkei genkai that Zetsu posesses that has nothing to do with eyes and hasn't been revealed yet. Manga_King
I'm phrasing it as an "apparent suicide" rather than a "suicide", since it's all but confirmed that Itachi did it. If there's a better word for it, like "alleged", well, whatever works.
Seraphchoir 15:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
If Itachi gained mangekou sharingan, I think it is completely clear that he did murder Shishui. I dont think the word "almost" should come into it. It is mentioned that Shishui was "like a brother" to Itachi. Stylishman 21:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Itachi admitted to Sasuke that he had killed Shisui to obtain Mangekyou Sharingan Zabooza 22:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, to short it down as much as possible...
-- 81.228.148.65 20:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, personally, I don't think Akatsuki means "dawn" or "daybreak". Rather, I think it means Red Cloud. Aka translated into English means red, and if memory serves me right, tsuki means cloud. I think this makes WAY more scence since they DO have red clouds on their cloaks.
Aka/Beni = Red/Scarlet, Tsuki/Getsu = The Moon. Akatsuki = Red Moon, and it's used to say 'dawn' in japanese. Zabooza 22:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Could someone make Itachi Uchiha a seperate page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.205.94 ( talk) 01:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC).
It is a woman.
Under the section of the article regarding the Akatsuki members' headbands, it says "they cut there headbands cause evry guy is emo". WTF? 1.) That's opionated. and 2.) That's totally false. Putting a slash through a forehead protector is a symbol of deviation, saying "This village is pathetic and doomed to die". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tybre ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC).
When I saw it, I immediately went here. I never got the chance to see it changed until just now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tybre ( talk • contribs).
Yeah, but my comp wouldn't let me edit stuff yesterday. No clue why. I'm glad it is today. I just made a page for my school cause there wasn't one. Ah, I know why: Semi-Protection. This is day 2 for me. Under forehead protectors (headbands) it says Hidan's is unknown, but Hidan's is the Village Hidden in the Rain.
It says there that Akatsuki currently has 8 rings. Because Orochimaru's body still has it, and Konoha has Kakuzu's.... shouldn't it say that they only have 7? Because it does not say they have Hidan's. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.65.5 ( talk • contribs).
Exactly so that means Akatuski only has Seven Rings not eight like it says on the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.65.5 ( talk • contribs).
Like they care about Hidan. All that's left of him is his head. They can't reconstruct his body even if they wanted to. It's all dismembered. If they ever find him will be for the ring but yea whatever I was just stating the obvious. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.65.5 ( talk • contribs).
Well putting Hidan might not be possible. putting him back together was Kakuzu job,and now that he's dead........,but other then that i agree hat since he's still alive he is still considered a member of akatsuki Allen Walker 08:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
hmm have any of you looked in youtube?
if u type akatsuki leader 1-20 clips shows a comic book that tells about akatsuki leader as bieng 4th hokage.
maybe its true maybe its not. - Akizaki
Absolutely proven photoshop. And don't say it's Uchiha Madara. Masashi Kishomoto has released drawings of Madara and his silhoette/lower face look nothing the leader's. The leader is somebody new. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tybre ( talk • contribs).
First of all, I agree Itachi should have his own page. After all, he's the only akatsuki member(active member)that hailed from the Hidden Leaf Village. And I would like to back up the fact that he played a major role in Sasuke's life. Aside from this, Sakura Haruno mentioned that he is their worst enemy. Most of all, he's obviously one of the most popular character in the Narutoverse.
Second, I believe that Itachi is an expert taijutsu user. He was once an ANBU team captain after all(all ANBU needs to be expert in tai, gen, and nin-jutsu to be able to cope up with the different fighting skills of the enemy. He may have started using genjutsu when he acquired the MS. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.105.76.237 ( talk) 04:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
If Orochimaru left akutsuki 7 years before the start of the series (after he tried to take Itachi) then does that mean that itachi was 10 or 11 when he joined Akatsuki? 66.68.245.197 16:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
The article states it. 66.68.245.205 21:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I think he's correct. He once wielded a sword, and remember the scene where little Sasuke was watching Itachi practicing with kunai's. That I think is enough proof of significant taijutsu skills. Another thing, the night he killed his entire clan, he mutilated them using taijutsu, and not spamming amaterasu.
Another thing, when three members of the Uchiha speculated him as the murderer of his best friend, he unquestionably battled them using taijutsu. He did'nt used exploding bunshin, or Tsukuyomi, or pupil techniques, or other ninjutsu. They were clearly battered physically. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.105.76.237 ( talk) 04:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC).
remember when he caught Sasuke's chidori? or the immense strength of his kicks and punches? how he kicked Kurenai(which was effortless by the way, yet Kurenai was knocked back probably a good 15 feet). I would like to make a comment on how he caught the chidori: the speed... reminds me of Mito Gai... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.69.209.86 ( talk) 10:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC).
actually swor wielding is called kenjutsu-- 209.159.197.82 01:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
we have yet to see any prove of that stament since about no one in the narutoverse has been seen using a sword and i say we call it kenjutsu -- jj15
in the ninjutsu list, other media, where's the technique that itachi uses which somehow is very similar to kakashi's when he attempted to cut deidera's head and devour the explosion? in naruto shippuuden, itachi, under tsukuyumi aura, can use the same technique(PS 2) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.105.76.237 ( talk) 04:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC).
yo all, ik this is not akatsuki related but i was tryin 2 figure out what template gave the talk page the nice new location for the ToC as i am thinkin of incorporating it to another page i work on... thanks Ancientanubis, talk 23:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
{| class="infobox" style="background: #F8EABA;" | __TOC__ |}
We might need to revisit this fact. He doesn't wear a headband period in the anime. At the very least, we'll need a better scan or something showing his headdband. — Someguy0830 ( T | C) 20:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
In volume 27, when Kakashi takes Naruto, you can roughly see his handband on his chest. It's alittle foggy, but it seems to be from the Grass village. [5] This is it, but I'll have to find a better quality version. DarkRyan75 22:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I just thought of an answer to these constant pleads to make an Itachi article: We make it. But we don't post it anywhere on wikipedia except this discussion page right here. We constantly edit it until it has enough information for a wikipedia article, then put it elsewhere.
And judging by our last chapter, it seems that mabye it would be filled soon if we go along with this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artist Formerly Known As Whocares ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
But there are plenty of other anime characters who have done even less of a role in their series than Itachi and they have articles. (Tenten, and from One Piece Axe-Hand Morgan, Monkey D. Dragon, and Darcule 'Hawkeye' Mihawk) If so, shouldn't Itachi have one too? And I do agree, he doesn't have as much a role in the series as he should, and somebody should put more effort into his article than copy/paste.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artist Formerly Known As Whocares ( talk • contribs).
Oh, the clamor for Itachi's page! I wonder when they'll realize that there's enough info about him to make an article? Moonwalkerwiz 07:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, considering how now every article is jsut about history, personality, and abilities, this means that Itachi can have an article, because he has enoguh for all three subjects. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:25 (Eastern Standard Time), 19 May, 2007
according to the data book, what are the character stats of Uchiha Itachi? please share... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.97.227.120 ( talk) 09:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
ya kno, that is a great question... i've kinda wanted to see one of the data books....
Ancientanubis,
talk
03:50, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
where can I find the data book that you just said...? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.97.227.120 ( talk) 08:55, 10 May 2007 (UTC). also, look to the above topic about itachi bein a taijutsu user:)... Ancientanubis, talk 16:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
It seems pretty clear to me that the Leader doesn't really have any interest in bringing back Hidan's head based on the latest chapter. He just says "They've both been killed" when asked about Hidan and Kakuzu. I don't think Hidan has any more use for Akatsuki. The Splendiferous Gegiford 20:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree. He's dead to Akatsuki now. We should move him -- Count Mall 20:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Hidan's status also be changed from "Incapacitated" to "Deceased"? The AL didn't mince any words. He didn't say he was defeated, but alive. Like the way many people thought. Nor did he say he was beyond help and couldn't be repaired. He said Kakuzu and Hidan were both dead. Unlike with Orochimaru, the Leader is in constant contact with his subordinates. So while you can argue that the Leader might not be able to give us a definitive word about Orochimaru, meaning he could still be alive, there can't be any question that he knows about Hidan's status. It seems it would be best to go with what canon tells us. Hidan is dead. Dunnlo 23:50, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't say Hidan is "dead", considering he is immortal. However, the Leader has no purpose for him anymore. He's definitely a former member now.Ikani87 00:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Regardless of whether the verb was lost in translation (which is unlikely, since the word and verb death//to die is not ambiguous from Japanese to English), I agree wholeheartedly in changing Hidan's status to dead. People of semantics will continue to argue this, but what you forget is how Naruto usually operates. If they claim he's "dead", or as people who feel it's lost in translation, "incapacitated", "lost", "wounded", "whatever", it's been addressed as of manga 353 that he is considered dead. As people brought up, what is canon is right, and not our speculation. Thus, it is in need of changing. 74.12.4.111 13:36, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Joe Caron
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/vol27.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=13547 http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/vol27.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=13548
On Zetsu first appearance, he is talking with his another personality, but looks like that the another personality is that eyes and month like in his chest...
ok so i changed this:
The amount of chakra Kisame possesses is apparently very large, even by Akatsuki's standards. Their leader commented on this; a Kisame body-double at thirty-percent power – made with the leader's Shapeshifting Technique – had as much chakra as Naruto while drawing on demon fox's chakra when he fought Neji during the Chunin exams, an observation made by Neji Hyuga when he observed Kisame's body-double with his Byakugan.
to this:
The amount of chakra Kisame possesses is apparently very large, even by Akatsuki's standards. Their leader commented on this; a Kisame body-double at thirty-percent power – made with the leader's Shapeshifting Technique – had th most chakra neji has seen since naruto thus meaning that kisame has tons of chakra. because he didnt say that he had as much chakra as naruto did while drwing on the demon fox's chakra that's just speculation —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jackjohnson15 ( talk • contribs) 17:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
I don't know. Your versions seems kind of poorly written. I mean, "kisame has tons of chakra?" There must be a better way to put that. 24.35.33.81 23:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
um shouldent some one add what Tobi does in the newest chapter?
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter353mq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=41003 24.205.255.129 17:44, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
According to the most recent chapter of Naruto, Orochimaru left ten years ago, after the incident with Itachi, when both were members. With this information, we now know he joined at age 10, or possibly earlier. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artist Formerly Known As Whocares ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
its quite unusual for a 10 year old to join akatsuki. so this means that itachi was already an S - rank shinobi by that age. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.69.208.57 ( talk) 15:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC).
I know when Itachi Joined he was 15 when he joined Akatsuki. See if he was 15 years old it would make perfect sense because now sasuke is acting exactly like itachi was at 15. See like Tsunade and Sakura Tsunade became a medical-nin at 15 because her brother and lover died. And sakura is now exactly like Tsunade. that you guys have to beileve! Akatsuki0E 20:44, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
That's really just a speculation that uses other, most likely coincidental, similar instances.
Why don't we add this to the Itachi section?
There is quite some controversy over when Itachi joined Akatsuki. Although logically it appeared that Itachi joined Akatsuki after he killed the Uchiha Clan, Chapter 238 revealed that Orochimaru left Akatsuki 7 years before the timeskip. Do to Orochimaru briefly mentioning that he left Akatsuki because of Itachi, this left several questions. Recently, in Sasuke's fight with Orochimaru, Orochimaru's flashback revealed that Itachi easily defeated him, which prompted Orochimaru's leaving and caused more mysteries over when he joined. In Chapter 353, after the timeskip, Kisame briefly mentions Orochimaru leaving Akatsuki ten years ago. With the following information, it can be assumed he joined at either 10 or 11, but whether he joined at that age or not has yet to be revealed.
This is only just stating the evidence, so it is acceptable for a Wikipedia article. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 15:40 (Eastern Standard Time, 14 May 2007.
He could have joined Akatsuki before he killed the clan, acting like an agent for Akatsuki in Konoha or waiting for the right opportunity to kill the clan and become a real member. Jacce 10:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
hi I was wondering waht chapter did Zetsu eat Sasoris dead body?
p.s shouldent some one add that to the article? 24.205.255.129 05:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.255.129 ( talk) 05:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC).