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In Tobi's entry, it says that his manner of speech is very formal and correct. I'm not sure this means anything to most people, at least not in English. Can someone explain what this description is supposed to mean and polish it up so its a little more informative/intelligible? Otherwise, it should probably be taken out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plunge ( talk • contribs) .
I have a copy of shonnen jump weekly vol. 35 with the spread of akatsuki and even i can't define if it is a crack in the rock or some accessory. It is the exact same colour as the rock itself, however it overlaps the members head and is shaped far different from the other cracks. My point being, this undefinable piece should not be included under his section until the character is seen further and one side or the other can be proven. -- Midusunknown 10:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Should we add the hidden villages that Akatsuki's members came from to their profiles? Obviously we don't know all of them, but it might be worth doing. -- AvatarZero 14:26, 24 August 2006 (GMT)
After looking it up, I've seen people mentioning that interview. Apparently it's from a Jump Festa interview that says "A nicely designed person will soon make an appearance in Akatsuki. And also a kunoichi of considerable strength." Has anyone seen this interview or is it just a fake? Nemu 18:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Deidara is a female Gaara has called her a she many times. ~ Wickanprince
How can you tell she doesnt have breast she could be an A its hard to tell with that robe. Plus many charecters have opisite sex vioces Haku for example is a guy and dresses like a girl and kinda sounds like one. Personly I think we should just say it in the discription as the gender is unknown although I believe she is a girl.~Wickan prince
mhhmm then eplain the nail pollish and what does the darkness of the cave haft to do with anything
Dude! Deidara's a guy! Listen to this, it's HIS voice: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vqgsIS_o1mc
Speaking of Deidara, isn't his eye colour cyan? If one takes a look at the "current Akatsuki roster" image at the main page and makes a google image search for "cyan", doesn't Deidara's eye colour match that colour perfectly?
Trust me. He is a guy. He has a guy's voice and there are lots of girly men in Naruto. It's only his hair that is girly, actually. His hair is what gets everyone confused. And the fact that he wears nail polish. But all Akatsuki members wear nail polish.
Congrats to everyone on this achievement! - Malomeat 01:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I went through and removed all of the fields that had a "?" in them. There's really no point in saying over and over again that you don't know the characters age, height, whatever. It helps to avoid clutter.-- SeizureDog 17:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Whoever added the references needs to provide information such as publisher and author (or editor or whatever was used). Additionally, it would be nice to start sticking some citations in. Especially if you want to cite information that appeared in a perticular episode (only cite things that might be contested or are details that are easy to miss though).-- SeizureDog 18:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The Akatsuki leader in the manga and the Fourth Hokage. Note the hair-do.
In China,there's rumors going around that say the Akatsuki leader is the Fourth Hokage,and he didn't die when sealing the 9 tail.Also,do you remember when orochimaru was fighting the 3rd hokage and he summoned the 1st and 2nd hokage,but the 4th didn't show up? Yea. lol. PS:Some also claim that the Akatsuki leader/4th hokage is naruto's dad...don't ask me lol. DivineBaboon 03:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
They show the leader covered by a shadow, so you don't know his hair color. Trust me. There is lots of evidence.
None of the Akatsuki members knows who the leader is. They don't even know his name!
How could it possibly be Tazuna? Tazuna doesn't live in Konoha.
OK, I know this sound weird but I think it Tobi. Now listen Tobi has a hair style like the leader's hair. Plus we never seen Tobi's face and the Leader face was a shadow. Also The we don't know the jutsu of Tobi or the Leaders so he could use shadow clone jutsu.
How could it possibly be Tobi? Tobi could never, ever, possibly be the leader.
How could it possibly be Tobi or Tazuna? There is more evidence pointing to the leader being the Fourth Hokage and the Fourth Hokage being Naruto's father. First of all, They show the leader covered by a shadow, so you don't know his hair color. Second of all, the leader looks like the Fourth Hokage. And lastly, The Fourth Hokage is the only other person with blond hair and blue eyes. You see? The evidence points to him. Tazuna doesn't live in Konoha. And Tobi could never, ever, possibly be the leader. By the way, None of the Akatsuki members knows who the leader is. They don't even know his name!
OK.
I may have missed this part, but where is it officially confirmed that Zetsu is from the Hidden Grass Village? Granted, I see how one might speculate that he is from that village, being a giant plant and all, but last I knew, it was still speculation with a somewhat poor-quality and questionable manga scan holding it up. -- TengoQuillin 19:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Does Zetsu have arms? I've never seen them. The leave like things really his arms? If someone has a picture of him and his arms, post it. Or hyperlink, please.
you know i would really like this trivia added to zetsu about the similaritys between his character and two characters of the manga and anime scryed "Zetsu has a similar character design to alter power "Zetsuie" from the serialization scryed. He also seems to have similar powers of another alter power of the character Urizane in that they can both travel through plants that cover a large amount of distance in a short period of time."
That said, I will laugh if it turns out that Tobi is Obito, the one hokage is the Akatsuki leader, or any of those other theories people were always vandalizing this page with. -- tjstrf 00:05, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
if any of those theorie turn out true i will just cry and also some guy i have already stated my argument if you cant read then thats your fault
I noticed that on the Akatsuki page it says that Akatsuki means dawn or daybreak. Now I don’t speak or read Japanese but I did some research and found another possible translation. According to my findings Aka can have a couple of different meanings one of them being Bloody then I found out that tsuki means moon so I believe that Akatsuki could mean Bloody Moon.
I also believe that if that is the case than it could be a reference to an ill omen in the wiccen belief called blood on the moon. One of my reasons for thinking this is that it is a bad omen and I cant think of anything much worse than having a run in with the Akatsuki.
Aka means red and Tsuki means moon. Don't ask me why they put red clouds. Someone else has an idea, though. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SilM52CBAJ8
One have to consider the kanji when reading japanese, if Akatsuki's name meant "red moon" instead of "dawn" it wouldn't even be called "Akatsuki" but rather "Akaitsuki" (赤い月), and the red clouds are a referance to how the sky looks in the early morning hours. trivia: Akatsuki is a pseudonym for "In the event of" but this is written with a different kanji so don't start walking around thinking that Itachi is a member of the "in the event of" organisation now.
So, in the light of the latest chapter (322) we learn that Kakuzu has the habit of killing his teammates in flashes of rage. Someone reminded me of how, in their introduction, Hidan was introducing himself as the one easy to anger and suggested that perhaps Hidan was just parodying on Kakuzu's violent behaviour. It would explain why Kakuzu, the one with the anger management problem, was all "shut up Hidan", and it fits with Hidan's attitude of not worrying about pissing Kakuzu off (since he can't die). Entire thread here http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=134065 It isn't a proven fact, but I think it makes incredible sense and I'd like to ask you guys if you think we should change the article accordingly. Grrblt 18:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
All the other members have short descriptions about the jutsus and powers characteristic of the respective members. But when I added some bits about how the leader's justus so far revolve around cloning various elements of other ninja, they were removed. Why? The Leader may be mysterious, but there are plenty of things known about him/her for certain.
This article has been removed from the GA list because half of this article's information has "non-notable trivia", is written from an in-universe perspective and it has no inline citations. Tarret 00:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Sasori has enough information on him to make one medium sized artical I mean come on people the dude is died and still doesn't have an artical of his own. But if there is not enough information ( but I still think there's enough ) then forget it but if there is then please make one or allow me to make one and don't delete it.
Isn't there enough info on Sasori yet to give him an individual article? 71.212.160.161 01:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
They have made an article about Sasori.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Hidan's headband the same as one from the Hidden Grass village? You Can't See Me! 06:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
well no really isnt a correction some guy but your right hidan is not from the grass village heres a link http://www.degree-anime.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=4171&pos=4-- Zetsuie 15:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Seeing as the page is semi-protected right now and we needn't worry too much about our lovely speculation vandals, this seems like an ideal chance to regain GA status.
According to our delister, we have 3 things to fix:
Of those, the easiest, though potentially most time consuming is #3. All we need to do is pick facts from the page, find the place where they are first stated, and then use a <ref>Source, chapter, page</ref> tag to cite the information. #1 Just consists of trimming junk out. The hard one will be in-universe perspective, since that's practically just a judgment call by the reviewer, but it should still be doable.
Let's see... relevant links are
WP:Writing about fiction,
the good articles guide page,
citation guidelines,
in-line citation how-to, and
Shinigami (Bleach), the Good Article closest in nature to this one. Let's get this thing back up to par! --
tjstrf
07:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I have a few suggestions for changes on the info list. First off, standardize all lists for the "real members" (current+Sasori). Right now, Itachi has a bunch of extra info like Ninja Academy Registration number and Voice actor. I'm personally no fan of including this info at all (specially registration number, who cares), but at least we should give the same kind of info on everyone. Oro, Kabuto and Yura (and any future subordinates) can keep their info list with only the Akatsuki-relevant stuff, as they don't all have rings or partners for example. Second, Debut should be split into First cameo and First appearance or something similar. With the current system, Deidara's debut is listed as 247 even though he appeared in 238 and even played a major part in the dialogue of that scene. 238 would be considered his First cameo, 247 his First appearance. Third, I think we know enough to add a Target bijuu to the info list. Itachi is after Kyuubi, Deidara caught Shukaku, Hidan caught Nibi, Tobi caught Sanbi and Sasori didn't know himself. It could be listed as Target bijuu: [[Kyuubi]], jinchuuriki [[Uzumaki Naruto]] (not captured). Fourth is a small note really, Position should be renamed as Ring position to avoid confusion. Fifth is concerning the Unique traits that I believe should be changed into Defining characteristics. Someone, I believe it was Someguy####, mentioned in an edit summary that personalities aren't really unique and thus shouldn't be listed. However, it is just that kind of information that should be listed, and some traits listed right now aren't even unique either ("commonly uses water based jutsu", "master of the Sharingan", etc). Characteristics is good because it can include both skills and personalities. Grrblt 14:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Three days and no complaints, I went ahead and made the changes. I also reverted the name order to alphabetical as described above. Grrblt 11:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey it's me again, there IS enough information for a real artical about Sasori. So why do people STILL think he shouldn't? Sai has a HUGE articl and he's been in just one Ark and same goes for Yamato. So just make one already and maybe you should read Sasori's artical he has now and see how long it is!!!! Sam ov the blue sand
Ok but how do I make my own artical. Also you guys will just delete it anyways. One more thing sorry about whinning about this whole thing I just think Sasori should have his own artical and he's my favorite villion in Naruto 2 ( so far any way ). Sam ov the blue sand
That's the part I need help with. I started it and it comes up nowhere I need help PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME. Sam ov the blue sand
Thank you Tjstrf for your help I realy needed it Sam ov the blue sand 22:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC) Sam ov the blue sand
The plainest argument for giving Sasori an article is that the Akatsuki is currently 46 kb long, and Sasori's section is 15 kb of that. If we gave him his own article and then made his appearance here short like Orochimaru's it would bring our article length under the suggested norm. Additionally, since we could avoid anything less than fully notable about Sasori this way, which would aid us in our (or at least my) attempt to get this back to GA status. In effect, Sasori already has his own article length section on this page. Why not split it? Plus, Sam wants one, and Sasori is as much a major character as Zabuza. -- tjstrf 22:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Now that's what I'm saying finally somone finally gets it thank you Tjstrf you are the first to finally get what I'm talking about now hopefully all the other HATERS (I don't like to use slang on the computer)out there will finally understand too. Also why the heck do you think my name is Sam ov the blue sand a pun off of Sasori of the Red Sand has anyone noticed that I'm a Sasori freak yet? Sam ov the blue sand 22:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
First off sorry to all the people I just called haters that inculdes you The Splendiferous Gegiford. Second Tjstrf is there going to be an artical or not if so who's going to make it hopefully not me. Thirdly The Splendiferous Gegiford not every akasuki member needs an artical only the ones with enough information. Sam ov the blue sand 23:32, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
This article is supposed to be on the organization to begin with, not the characters. They're only here as a holding pen until they have enough info to be split. I've made the trim, as well as started the article Sasori (Naruto). (So have at it Sam, it does need some work). Other people, if you want to delete the articles of all the medium-significance villians, be my guest, I don't WP:OWN the Naruto section. But don't just target one or two of them. -- tjstrf
YES finally thank you Tjstrf you're like the only person here who get's what I'm saying I also understand what your saying and I respect that. Also The Splendiferous Gegiford I respect what you have to say but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you. Sam ov the blue sand 23:45, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Well it's finally complete you can find it where Sasori's 'old' artical used to be just click on main artical and please tell me what you think it is my first one so it's prabally not perfect but I hpe it's OK thank you Tjstrf for your time check it out when you have time. Sam ov the blue sand 00:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
You do that Tjstrf and I'll wait for it and in the meantime I'm waiting for The Splendiferous Gegiford to make a comment on my very first artical I'm waiting for those comments people please check it out. Sam ov the blue sand 00:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
You know, I just love having all the points I make go ignored. It certainly doesn't happen enough on that damn Zoro page. The Splendiferous Gegiford 13:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey sorry I haven't said anything in a while got to go to school and all that jive but any ways The Splendiferous Gegiford what do you think of the artical waiting for a comment here people I don't care where you make whether it be on the disscussion page on Sasori's artical (which by the way is empty, sad) or here please comment. Two Tjstrf are you making the changes to the Sasori artical because if you are thanks but if you aren't somebody tell me who did. Sam ov the blue sand 21:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Wow a whole lot of people have made changes to the artical. Also what do you mean by I apperciate your enthusiasm. One more thing Could somone start a conversation on the disscussion page on Sasori's artical, I mean it would look pretty stupid if started one wouldn't it?
Yeh about that, when I went to copy and paste 'I appreciate your enthusiasm ' (What can I say I'm lazy) I kinda clicked cut instead of paste so I tried to fix it sorry I don't like spelling. That's how you spell artical huh who knew, (I guess I didn't) like I said before I don't like spelling. Sam ov the blue sand 22:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
They've made an article on Sasori!
On a minor note, we're the 49th most visited Wikipedia page, receiving nearly 12,000 views per day. I guess that explains all the vandalism we were getting prior to semi-protection. -- tjstrf 17:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't find an exact reference for the following article statements by reading through the manga:
If anyone could help track these down, I'd be most grateful. -- tjstrf 23:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... That second thing isn't really true... Kakashi said, and I quote "He used that technique fast. I couldn't follow the seal formations with my eyes." Meaning that the coat had nothing to do with Kakashi not being able to see Itachi's seals.
can we add hidan's ninja village symbol to hidans information this seems like valuable information about hidan and would dismiss the confusion about hidans village hopefully also i think we need a better picture of hidan because the headband hes wearing looks to much like the grass symbol and that confused me at first-- Zetsuie 15:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Ru.spider added this to Tobi trivia:
I reverted it for now, since the kanji is the first part of Gyokunyo (jade woman) and not Gyokusho (jade general). However, I do think it's kinda interesting and wanted to hear your opinions on whether we could make something of this. Grrblt 10:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
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In Tobi's entry, it says that his manner of speech is very formal and correct. I'm not sure this means anything to most people, at least not in English. Can someone explain what this description is supposed to mean and polish it up so its a little more informative/intelligible? Otherwise, it should probably be taken out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plunge ( talk • contribs) .
I have a copy of shonnen jump weekly vol. 35 with the spread of akatsuki and even i can't define if it is a crack in the rock or some accessory. It is the exact same colour as the rock itself, however it overlaps the members head and is shaped far different from the other cracks. My point being, this undefinable piece should not be included under his section until the character is seen further and one side or the other can be proven. -- Midusunknown 10:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Should we add the hidden villages that Akatsuki's members came from to their profiles? Obviously we don't know all of them, but it might be worth doing. -- AvatarZero 14:26, 24 August 2006 (GMT)
After looking it up, I've seen people mentioning that interview. Apparently it's from a Jump Festa interview that says "A nicely designed person will soon make an appearance in Akatsuki. And also a kunoichi of considerable strength." Has anyone seen this interview or is it just a fake? Nemu 18:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Deidara is a female Gaara has called her a she many times. ~ Wickanprince
How can you tell she doesnt have breast she could be an A its hard to tell with that robe. Plus many charecters have opisite sex vioces Haku for example is a guy and dresses like a girl and kinda sounds like one. Personly I think we should just say it in the discription as the gender is unknown although I believe she is a girl.~Wickan prince
mhhmm then eplain the nail pollish and what does the darkness of the cave haft to do with anything
Dude! Deidara's a guy! Listen to this, it's HIS voice: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vqgsIS_o1mc
Speaking of Deidara, isn't his eye colour cyan? If one takes a look at the "current Akatsuki roster" image at the main page and makes a google image search for "cyan", doesn't Deidara's eye colour match that colour perfectly?
Trust me. He is a guy. He has a guy's voice and there are lots of girly men in Naruto. It's only his hair that is girly, actually. His hair is what gets everyone confused. And the fact that he wears nail polish. But all Akatsuki members wear nail polish.
Congrats to everyone on this achievement! - Malomeat 01:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I went through and removed all of the fields that had a "?" in them. There's really no point in saying over and over again that you don't know the characters age, height, whatever. It helps to avoid clutter.-- SeizureDog 17:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Whoever added the references needs to provide information such as publisher and author (or editor or whatever was used). Additionally, it would be nice to start sticking some citations in. Especially if you want to cite information that appeared in a perticular episode (only cite things that might be contested or are details that are easy to miss though).-- SeizureDog 18:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The Akatsuki leader in the manga and the Fourth Hokage. Note the hair-do.
In China,there's rumors going around that say the Akatsuki leader is the Fourth Hokage,and he didn't die when sealing the 9 tail.Also,do you remember when orochimaru was fighting the 3rd hokage and he summoned the 1st and 2nd hokage,but the 4th didn't show up? Yea. lol. PS:Some also claim that the Akatsuki leader/4th hokage is naruto's dad...don't ask me lol. DivineBaboon 03:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
They show the leader covered by a shadow, so you don't know his hair color. Trust me. There is lots of evidence.
None of the Akatsuki members knows who the leader is. They don't even know his name!
How could it possibly be Tazuna? Tazuna doesn't live in Konoha.
OK, I know this sound weird but I think it Tobi. Now listen Tobi has a hair style like the leader's hair. Plus we never seen Tobi's face and the Leader face was a shadow. Also The we don't know the jutsu of Tobi or the Leaders so he could use shadow clone jutsu.
How could it possibly be Tobi? Tobi could never, ever, possibly be the leader.
How could it possibly be Tobi or Tazuna? There is more evidence pointing to the leader being the Fourth Hokage and the Fourth Hokage being Naruto's father. First of all, They show the leader covered by a shadow, so you don't know his hair color. Second of all, the leader looks like the Fourth Hokage. And lastly, The Fourth Hokage is the only other person with blond hair and blue eyes. You see? The evidence points to him. Tazuna doesn't live in Konoha. And Tobi could never, ever, possibly be the leader. By the way, None of the Akatsuki members knows who the leader is. They don't even know his name!
OK.
I may have missed this part, but where is it officially confirmed that Zetsu is from the Hidden Grass Village? Granted, I see how one might speculate that he is from that village, being a giant plant and all, but last I knew, it was still speculation with a somewhat poor-quality and questionable manga scan holding it up. -- TengoQuillin 19:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Does Zetsu have arms? I've never seen them. The leave like things really his arms? If someone has a picture of him and his arms, post it. Or hyperlink, please.
you know i would really like this trivia added to zetsu about the similaritys between his character and two characters of the manga and anime scryed "Zetsu has a similar character design to alter power "Zetsuie" from the serialization scryed. He also seems to have similar powers of another alter power of the character Urizane in that they can both travel through plants that cover a large amount of distance in a short period of time."
That said, I will laugh if it turns out that Tobi is Obito, the one hokage is the Akatsuki leader, or any of those other theories people were always vandalizing this page with. -- tjstrf 00:05, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
if any of those theorie turn out true i will just cry and also some guy i have already stated my argument if you cant read then thats your fault
I noticed that on the Akatsuki page it says that Akatsuki means dawn or daybreak. Now I don’t speak or read Japanese but I did some research and found another possible translation. According to my findings Aka can have a couple of different meanings one of them being Bloody then I found out that tsuki means moon so I believe that Akatsuki could mean Bloody Moon.
I also believe that if that is the case than it could be a reference to an ill omen in the wiccen belief called blood on the moon. One of my reasons for thinking this is that it is a bad omen and I cant think of anything much worse than having a run in with the Akatsuki.
Aka means red and Tsuki means moon. Don't ask me why they put red clouds. Someone else has an idea, though. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SilM52CBAJ8
One have to consider the kanji when reading japanese, if Akatsuki's name meant "red moon" instead of "dawn" it wouldn't even be called "Akatsuki" but rather "Akaitsuki" (赤い月), and the red clouds are a referance to how the sky looks in the early morning hours. trivia: Akatsuki is a pseudonym for "In the event of" but this is written with a different kanji so don't start walking around thinking that Itachi is a member of the "in the event of" organisation now.
So, in the light of the latest chapter (322) we learn that Kakuzu has the habit of killing his teammates in flashes of rage. Someone reminded me of how, in their introduction, Hidan was introducing himself as the one easy to anger and suggested that perhaps Hidan was just parodying on Kakuzu's violent behaviour. It would explain why Kakuzu, the one with the anger management problem, was all "shut up Hidan", and it fits with Hidan's attitude of not worrying about pissing Kakuzu off (since he can't die). Entire thread here http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=134065 It isn't a proven fact, but I think it makes incredible sense and I'd like to ask you guys if you think we should change the article accordingly. Grrblt 18:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
All the other members have short descriptions about the jutsus and powers characteristic of the respective members. But when I added some bits about how the leader's justus so far revolve around cloning various elements of other ninja, they were removed. Why? The Leader may be mysterious, but there are plenty of things known about him/her for certain.
This article has been removed from the GA list because half of this article's information has "non-notable trivia", is written from an in-universe perspective and it has no inline citations. Tarret 00:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Sasori has enough information on him to make one medium sized artical I mean come on people the dude is died and still doesn't have an artical of his own. But if there is not enough information ( but I still think there's enough ) then forget it but if there is then please make one or allow me to make one and don't delete it.
Isn't there enough info on Sasori yet to give him an individual article? 71.212.160.161 01:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
They have made an article about Sasori.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Hidan's headband the same as one from the Hidden Grass village? You Can't See Me! 06:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
well no really isnt a correction some guy but your right hidan is not from the grass village heres a link http://www.degree-anime.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=4171&pos=4-- Zetsuie 15:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Seeing as the page is semi-protected right now and we needn't worry too much about our lovely speculation vandals, this seems like an ideal chance to regain GA status.
According to our delister, we have 3 things to fix:
Of those, the easiest, though potentially most time consuming is #3. All we need to do is pick facts from the page, find the place where they are first stated, and then use a <ref>Source, chapter, page</ref> tag to cite the information. #1 Just consists of trimming junk out. The hard one will be in-universe perspective, since that's practically just a judgment call by the reviewer, but it should still be doable.
Let's see... relevant links are
WP:Writing about fiction,
the good articles guide page,
citation guidelines,
in-line citation how-to, and
Shinigami (Bleach), the Good Article closest in nature to this one. Let's get this thing back up to par! --
tjstrf
07:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I have a few suggestions for changes on the info list. First off, standardize all lists for the "real members" (current+Sasori). Right now, Itachi has a bunch of extra info like Ninja Academy Registration number and Voice actor. I'm personally no fan of including this info at all (specially registration number, who cares), but at least we should give the same kind of info on everyone. Oro, Kabuto and Yura (and any future subordinates) can keep their info list with only the Akatsuki-relevant stuff, as they don't all have rings or partners for example. Second, Debut should be split into First cameo and First appearance or something similar. With the current system, Deidara's debut is listed as 247 even though he appeared in 238 and even played a major part in the dialogue of that scene. 238 would be considered his First cameo, 247 his First appearance. Third, I think we know enough to add a Target bijuu to the info list. Itachi is after Kyuubi, Deidara caught Shukaku, Hidan caught Nibi, Tobi caught Sanbi and Sasori didn't know himself. It could be listed as Target bijuu: [[Kyuubi]], jinchuuriki [[Uzumaki Naruto]] (not captured). Fourth is a small note really, Position should be renamed as Ring position to avoid confusion. Fifth is concerning the Unique traits that I believe should be changed into Defining characteristics. Someone, I believe it was Someguy####, mentioned in an edit summary that personalities aren't really unique and thus shouldn't be listed. However, it is just that kind of information that should be listed, and some traits listed right now aren't even unique either ("commonly uses water based jutsu", "master of the Sharingan", etc). Characteristics is good because it can include both skills and personalities. Grrblt 14:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Three days and no complaints, I went ahead and made the changes. I also reverted the name order to alphabetical as described above. Grrblt 11:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey it's me again, there IS enough information for a real artical about Sasori. So why do people STILL think he shouldn't? Sai has a HUGE articl and he's been in just one Ark and same goes for Yamato. So just make one already and maybe you should read Sasori's artical he has now and see how long it is!!!! Sam ov the blue sand
Ok but how do I make my own artical. Also you guys will just delete it anyways. One more thing sorry about whinning about this whole thing I just think Sasori should have his own artical and he's my favorite villion in Naruto 2 ( so far any way ). Sam ov the blue sand
That's the part I need help with. I started it and it comes up nowhere I need help PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME. Sam ov the blue sand
Thank you Tjstrf for your help I realy needed it Sam ov the blue sand 22:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC) Sam ov the blue sand
The plainest argument for giving Sasori an article is that the Akatsuki is currently 46 kb long, and Sasori's section is 15 kb of that. If we gave him his own article and then made his appearance here short like Orochimaru's it would bring our article length under the suggested norm. Additionally, since we could avoid anything less than fully notable about Sasori this way, which would aid us in our (or at least my) attempt to get this back to GA status. In effect, Sasori already has his own article length section on this page. Why not split it? Plus, Sam wants one, and Sasori is as much a major character as Zabuza. -- tjstrf 22:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Now that's what I'm saying finally somone finally gets it thank you Tjstrf you are the first to finally get what I'm talking about now hopefully all the other HATERS (I don't like to use slang on the computer)out there will finally understand too. Also why the heck do you think my name is Sam ov the blue sand a pun off of Sasori of the Red Sand has anyone noticed that I'm a Sasori freak yet? Sam ov the blue sand 22:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
First off sorry to all the people I just called haters that inculdes you The Splendiferous Gegiford. Second Tjstrf is there going to be an artical or not if so who's going to make it hopefully not me. Thirdly The Splendiferous Gegiford not every akasuki member needs an artical only the ones with enough information. Sam ov the blue sand 23:32, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
This article is supposed to be on the organization to begin with, not the characters. They're only here as a holding pen until they have enough info to be split. I've made the trim, as well as started the article Sasori (Naruto). (So have at it Sam, it does need some work). Other people, if you want to delete the articles of all the medium-significance villians, be my guest, I don't WP:OWN the Naruto section. But don't just target one or two of them. -- tjstrf
YES finally thank you Tjstrf you're like the only person here who get's what I'm saying I also understand what your saying and I respect that. Also The Splendiferous Gegiford I respect what you have to say but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you. Sam ov the blue sand 23:45, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Well it's finally complete you can find it where Sasori's 'old' artical used to be just click on main artical and please tell me what you think it is my first one so it's prabally not perfect but I hpe it's OK thank you Tjstrf for your time check it out when you have time. Sam ov the blue sand 00:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
You do that Tjstrf and I'll wait for it and in the meantime I'm waiting for The Splendiferous Gegiford to make a comment on my very first artical I'm waiting for those comments people please check it out. Sam ov the blue sand 00:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
You know, I just love having all the points I make go ignored. It certainly doesn't happen enough on that damn Zoro page. The Splendiferous Gegiford 13:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey sorry I haven't said anything in a while got to go to school and all that jive but any ways The Splendiferous Gegiford what do you think of the artical waiting for a comment here people I don't care where you make whether it be on the disscussion page on Sasori's artical (which by the way is empty, sad) or here please comment. Two Tjstrf are you making the changes to the Sasori artical because if you are thanks but if you aren't somebody tell me who did. Sam ov the blue sand 21:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Wow a whole lot of people have made changes to the artical. Also what do you mean by I apperciate your enthusiasm. One more thing Could somone start a conversation on the disscussion page on Sasori's artical, I mean it would look pretty stupid if started one wouldn't it?
Yeh about that, when I went to copy and paste 'I appreciate your enthusiasm ' (What can I say I'm lazy) I kinda clicked cut instead of paste so I tried to fix it sorry I don't like spelling. That's how you spell artical huh who knew, (I guess I didn't) like I said before I don't like spelling. Sam ov the blue sand 22:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
They've made an article on Sasori!
On a minor note, we're the 49th most visited Wikipedia page, receiving nearly 12,000 views per day. I guess that explains all the vandalism we were getting prior to semi-protection. -- tjstrf 17:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't find an exact reference for the following article statements by reading through the manga:
If anyone could help track these down, I'd be most grateful. -- tjstrf 23:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... That second thing isn't really true... Kakashi said, and I quote "He used that technique fast. I couldn't follow the seal formations with my eyes." Meaning that the coat had nothing to do with Kakashi not being able to see Itachi's seals.
can we add hidan's ninja village symbol to hidans information this seems like valuable information about hidan and would dismiss the confusion about hidans village hopefully also i think we need a better picture of hidan because the headband hes wearing looks to much like the grass symbol and that confused me at first-- Zetsuie 15:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Ru.spider added this to Tobi trivia:
I reverted it for now, since the kanji is the first part of Gyokunyo (jade woman) and not Gyokusho (jade general). However, I do think it's kinda interesting and wanted to hear your opinions on whether we could make something of this. Grrblt 10:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)