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this is one of the best articles of a humanbeing i have ever read. pranay
This time I had put in all the right facts.Hope;no one will spoil my effort to NPOV this article. S.GaneshKumar 15:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC) User talk:Sganeshkumar 1989
ajith's interview and this one too Ajith's innterview.I had arrived with solid proof which you demanded.Now,let me move ahead! S.GaneshKumar 14:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
This article has biased reviews and lacks citations for each fact. So, it does not follow Wikipedia standards, and needs cleanup
See,I am also an admirer of Ajith.But don't overglorify him or write wrong things here.See,in an interview to rerdiff.com,he felt sad that all his 5 1997 releases were flops despite giving 3 megahits in 1996.And someone here writes that nesam,ullasam,raasi were musical hits!If you want to flatter him,go to ajithfans.com,not here;for this a place known for its neutral stance.I had tried to correct it twice ;but some mad fan spoils my effort!This is happening only with vijay and ajith's articles.Mad fans they are! - S.GaneshKumar
Ganesh Kumar, you are obviously biased towards Ajith Kumar. And that reflects on the way you have edited the page. Wikipedia does not recommend biased reviews or those without any references.
Yes Mr. Ganesh, see i was the one who expanded this stub article of Thala Ajith by adding pictures and details...but see some other fan overglorified it...and even i feel bad about the article...I have even mailed in the yahoogroups that u dont need to exaggerate events about Thala to make it fascinating..bcoz it naturally is fascinating...the beauty of Ajiths story is his come back...when he is written down and out...he bounces back with full energy...Fan who is editing this article shud understand that im Ajith fanatic... Even Ajith wont like the article...BE HONEST.
prathap
Please limit photos of films to one per year to avoid clutter. Anwar saadat 23:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Please leave if you are going to continuously vandalise the ajith page. Just cos u are a vijay fan it does not give u special rights to vandalise the ajith page. I have created a table with ajith films. Don't u dere delete it again. Others such as User:Prin and User:arunprasad have helped with thi success of the ajith page. Can you now please have the decentcy to leave it alone. User: The Man's Plan
The users Anwar saadat and Prin, including some suspected sockpuppets, have recently been involved in a reversion war in the Ajith article. This is distracting and confusing for other editors trying to edit the page, so I'm going to ask the involved parties to stop reverting until they can agree on a suitable version. Please note that both of you have already violated the three-revert rule.
As far as I can tell, the only major difference between the two versions that each of you advocate is the format of the filmography. Anwar prefers a bulleted list with external links to raaga.com and indiaglitz.com, while Prin prefers the {{ ActingFilmography}} templates. Neither version is incorrect, and neither version is vandalism. They are two different ways of presenting practically the same information. Personally, I don't see the point in using a complicated set of templates when a list works just fine and is more flexible. Then again, the templates do add aesthetic pleasure to the article.
If there are any other significant differences between your respective verions, please explain them specifically so that I can understand exactly what the problem is.
Once again, if either of you revert the article before reaching an agreement (especially within 24 hours), you will be cited for violation of the three-revert rule. And even more importantly, do not change or remove other users' signed comments on this talk page or any other pages. Thank you. -- Tantalum T e lluride 19:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
While you're fighting over the filmography hasn't anyone noticed the rather bad way in which this article is written?
What's up with all those exclamation marks? If someone were to try and edit this article to do something about the very bad style all their changes would be lost once it gets reverted again. You are really not making the article any better with your juvenile bickering.
As fans of Ajith you should be trying to make his article better, not worse.
Zyxoas (
talk to me - I'll listen)
06:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
The most hagiographic article on WP?? The whole article is utterly ridiculous. I tried to do some rephrasing, but someone who has watched more of his films will have to intervene because the content is also rather ridiculous. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 07:22, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I think a better photo is needed. Thanking You Ramesh Madhavan
Please be patient with the ajith article as a major edit is being undertaken to the table as requested by User: Anwar saadat and User: M.arunprasad.
I the [[don't worry I'll do it if you can be bother Mr User: Anwar saadat.
Thala pola varuma!!!
Everything is done perfect. What shold we do with the white spaces.
86.143.115.103 09:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I attempted to clean this article up according to the style guide, eg. removing the exclamation marks and constant repeditiveness. The work was reverted. If someone is interested in a revert war, I suggest giving it a go. -- d 07:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
The article was full of extraneous material. I pruned it ruthlessly, and also the external links. We're down to the IMDB site and the official site. The filmography needs to be re-organized -- usually the recent films go on the top. I'm not sure about leaving the links to the songs. This is probably copyright infringement and might get WP in trouble.
Anwar, if you want to set a fansite for Ajith, you'll have to get your own site. WP is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a shrine to a beloved actor. Zora 07:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
You have reverted the article blanking whole paragraphs [1] and links without bothering to explain. You will also be reported like Zora if you continue with this nonsense. Note - Noble Eagle's version is the last unanimously accepted version of this article. Anwar saadat 02:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I removed much of the POV and fan-cruft from the article. I reverted sub-sections to Zora. Please keep
weasel words out of the article. It is not encyclopedic. And the article has to be neutral. This is not a fan page. I come from
Tamil Nadu and I regularly watch tamil movies. I removed many external links that are either fan pages or just plain spam. Please do not add them back. -
Ganeshk (
talk)
23:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't want to do anything without discussion but I have neutrified everything. Please may Mr saadat not change this.
His journey so far is testimony to what resilience can achieve. It is also an indicator of the possible pitfalls. Born into a multiethnic family, his mother is a Sindhi and father Malayalee, Ajith dropped out of school early and took to fixing up automobiles. It was there that he picked up the penchant for roaring engines. He became a keen bike racer. He dabbled in small businesses before trying out modeling to make good use of his handsome looks.
His first film was in 1992 in Telugu titled Prema Pustagam which was a runaway hit. In Tamil, he made his debut in Amaravathi, for which he was paid a paltry Rs. 390! His next film was Pavitra which came after a gap of 17 months as he was recuperating from a racing injury. With these two films, Ajith came to be recognized as the romantic hero of the next generation. In an industry where a celebrity father or producer would mean an easy passport to stardom, Ajith built up his reputation single-handedly from scratch. That is also the reason why he is loved despite some forgettable snipes in the media.
In 1995 came Aasai and it changed his destiny. The film which was directed by
Vasanth also had mind-blowing performance by
Prakash Raj. With Aasai, Ajith became established as the pining lover who could rough up the baddies. The film ran for 210 days and offers began to pour. He followed it up in 1996 with Kadhal Kottai. Directed by Agathiyan, this gentle romance became a runaway hit and fetched a National award for direction. Ajith had surely arrived. Between 1996 and 1998, came a string of films like
Amarkalam, Uyirodu Uyiraga, Ullasam, Kadhal Mannan, Rettai Jadai Vayasu and Aval Varuvala.
Simran was his pair in Aval Varuvala. All these films did well and brought him a good name. But he was also hounded by constant media attention about his health problems and his on and off affair with actress Heera. When she walked out on him, he went into a depression.
He strode out with Unnai Thedi and
Vaali. Vaali, which marked the directorial debut of
S.J. Suryah was the unconventional story of a man lusting for his unsuspecting younger sibling’s wife, played by
Simran. Ajith did wonderfully as the two brothers. The film ran for packed houses for 270 days! Anandha Poongatrey, Mugavari and Poovellam Un Vasam were all creditable films.
Ajith moved on to being the action hero with Dheena, Citizen, Red and Villain. The fact that these films were being released in more and more theatres especially in rural areas and that the distributors were happy that they could recover a major portion in the opening week, brought him the nickname, King of Opening. He has worked in guest roles in many films mainly to help out young directors. The audio rights of one of his films, Kandukondein Kandukondein, were sold for 2.5 crores – an unbeaten record so far!
Yet there were some flip instances to what fame and fortune could do to a perfectly simple man. He started a long running war of words with another young hero and in the process antagonized several seniors in the industry. Many felt that Ajith had probably acquired a bloated ego to make up for professional failures like
Jana'. He also refused to do films and instead decided to take up
Formula 3 racing. After finding reasonable success on the track, he quit when he met with a near-fatal accident. He came back with Anjaneya and Ji, but both failed.
He then set about with the task of making up for lost time and regaining his place in the industry. His first comeback film, Paramasivan, released for Pongal this year has been declared a hit. His other release, T hirupathi, has been doing moderately well. He has shed a lot of weight and looks much more dashing than ever.
Can someone copy and paste into actual thing?
Thanking you
Benzee 10:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
This article seems to be suffering from a highly aggressive revert war between several users & User:Anwar saadat. I feel that a consensus is the only way this conflict can be resolved. Please carefully read the proposal below.
Proposal : I propose that the current version (i.e. the version as of 13 May 2006) be accepted as the base version of this article. Any new additions will definitely be welcome, but the edits reverted/removed by this version should not be added again as they have been accepted to be hagiographic & unencyclopedic by a majority of users. Note that the proposed version is by no means considered ideal or encyclopedic. I have mainly removed the links for songs to commercial websites, the terms like "Hit" & "Flop" & Plumcouch has removed the term "Ultimate star" from the lead-in. More cleanup is required as the article still contains bias. While additional cleanup is required in this article, more information added will always be welcome, albeit it confirms to the Wikipedia policies like NPOV, Verifiability, etc. Please add Accept, Reject, Neutral or any other suggestion below in the respective sections with your reasons & any suggestions you may have. Thank you. -- Srik e it( talk ¦ ✉) 00:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I have added a table for ajith's films, some one called User:Anwar saadat, keeps on deleting this, please say if the table does not suit you. But i think it makes the whole page look neater and more original. Please feel free to change it, but please put up a discussion first, mr anwar saadat. Jath16 17:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I would just like to say well done to everyone who has contributed on the ajith page for doing an excellent job to tidy up the article. Thank you folks! Jath16 17:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
In Joseph Vijay, Anwar has put in a comment saying that Ajith has taken over the "Numero Uno" position from Vijay. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 06:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
this is one of the best articles of a humanbeing i have ever read. pranay
This time I had put in all the right facts.Hope;no one will spoil my effort to NPOV this article. S.GaneshKumar 15:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC) User talk:Sganeshkumar 1989
ajith's interview and this one too Ajith's innterview.I had arrived with solid proof which you demanded.Now,let me move ahead! S.GaneshKumar 14:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
This article has biased reviews and lacks citations for each fact. So, it does not follow Wikipedia standards, and needs cleanup
See,I am also an admirer of Ajith.But don't overglorify him or write wrong things here.See,in an interview to rerdiff.com,he felt sad that all his 5 1997 releases were flops despite giving 3 megahits in 1996.And someone here writes that nesam,ullasam,raasi were musical hits!If you want to flatter him,go to ajithfans.com,not here;for this a place known for its neutral stance.I had tried to correct it twice ;but some mad fan spoils my effort!This is happening only with vijay and ajith's articles.Mad fans they are! - S.GaneshKumar
Ganesh Kumar, you are obviously biased towards Ajith Kumar. And that reflects on the way you have edited the page. Wikipedia does not recommend biased reviews or those without any references.
Yes Mr. Ganesh, see i was the one who expanded this stub article of Thala Ajith by adding pictures and details...but see some other fan overglorified it...and even i feel bad about the article...I have even mailed in the yahoogroups that u dont need to exaggerate events about Thala to make it fascinating..bcoz it naturally is fascinating...the beauty of Ajiths story is his come back...when he is written down and out...he bounces back with full energy...Fan who is editing this article shud understand that im Ajith fanatic... Even Ajith wont like the article...BE HONEST.
prathap
Please limit photos of films to one per year to avoid clutter. Anwar saadat 23:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Please leave if you are going to continuously vandalise the ajith page. Just cos u are a vijay fan it does not give u special rights to vandalise the ajith page. I have created a table with ajith films. Don't u dere delete it again. Others such as User:Prin and User:arunprasad have helped with thi success of the ajith page. Can you now please have the decentcy to leave it alone. User: The Man's Plan
The users Anwar saadat and Prin, including some suspected sockpuppets, have recently been involved in a reversion war in the Ajith article. This is distracting and confusing for other editors trying to edit the page, so I'm going to ask the involved parties to stop reverting until they can agree on a suitable version. Please note that both of you have already violated the three-revert rule.
As far as I can tell, the only major difference between the two versions that each of you advocate is the format of the filmography. Anwar prefers a bulleted list with external links to raaga.com and indiaglitz.com, while Prin prefers the {{ ActingFilmography}} templates. Neither version is incorrect, and neither version is vandalism. They are two different ways of presenting practically the same information. Personally, I don't see the point in using a complicated set of templates when a list works just fine and is more flexible. Then again, the templates do add aesthetic pleasure to the article.
If there are any other significant differences between your respective verions, please explain them specifically so that I can understand exactly what the problem is.
Once again, if either of you revert the article before reaching an agreement (especially within 24 hours), you will be cited for violation of the three-revert rule. And even more importantly, do not change or remove other users' signed comments on this talk page or any other pages. Thank you. -- Tantalum T e lluride 19:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
While you're fighting over the filmography hasn't anyone noticed the rather bad way in which this article is written?
What's up with all those exclamation marks? If someone were to try and edit this article to do something about the very bad style all their changes would be lost once it gets reverted again. You are really not making the article any better with your juvenile bickering.
As fans of Ajith you should be trying to make his article better, not worse.
Zyxoas (
talk to me - I'll listen)
06:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
The most hagiographic article on WP?? The whole article is utterly ridiculous. I tried to do some rephrasing, but someone who has watched more of his films will have to intervene because the content is also rather ridiculous. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 07:22, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I think a better photo is needed. Thanking You Ramesh Madhavan
Please be patient with the ajith article as a major edit is being undertaken to the table as requested by User: Anwar saadat and User: M.arunprasad.
I the [[don't worry I'll do it if you can be bother Mr User: Anwar saadat.
Thala pola varuma!!!
Everything is done perfect. What shold we do with the white spaces.
86.143.115.103 09:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I attempted to clean this article up according to the style guide, eg. removing the exclamation marks and constant repeditiveness. The work was reverted. If someone is interested in a revert war, I suggest giving it a go. -- d 07:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
The article was full of extraneous material. I pruned it ruthlessly, and also the external links. We're down to the IMDB site and the official site. The filmography needs to be re-organized -- usually the recent films go on the top. I'm not sure about leaving the links to the songs. This is probably copyright infringement and might get WP in trouble.
Anwar, if you want to set a fansite for Ajith, you'll have to get your own site. WP is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a shrine to a beloved actor. Zora 07:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
You have reverted the article blanking whole paragraphs [1] and links without bothering to explain. You will also be reported like Zora if you continue with this nonsense. Note - Noble Eagle's version is the last unanimously accepted version of this article. Anwar saadat 02:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I removed much of the POV and fan-cruft from the article. I reverted sub-sections to Zora. Please keep
weasel words out of the article. It is not encyclopedic. And the article has to be neutral. This is not a fan page. I come from
Tamil Nadu and I regularly watch tamil movies. I removed many external links that are either fan pages or just plain spam. Please do not add them back. -
Ganeshk (
talk)
23:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't want to do anything without discussion but I have neutrified everything. Please may Mr saadat not change this.
His journey so far is testimony to what resilience can achieve. It is also an indicator of the possible pitfalls. Born into a multiethnic family, his mother is a Sindhi and father Malayalee, Ajith dropped out of school early and took to fixing up automobiles. It was there that he picked up the penchant for roaring engines. He became a keen bike racer. He dabbled in small businesses before trying out modeling to make good use of his handsome looks.
His first film was in 1992 in Telugu titled Prema Pustagam which was a runaway hit. In Tamil, he made his debut in Amaravathi, for which he was paid a paltry Rs. 390! His next film was Pavitra which came after a gap of 17 months as he was recuperating from a racing injury. With these two films, Ajith came to be recognized as the romantic hero of the next generation. In an industry where a celebrity father or producer would mean an easy passport to stardom, Ajith built up his reputation single-handedly from scratch. That is also the reason why he is loved despite some forgettable snipes in the media.
In 1995 came Aasai and it changed his destiny. The film which was directed by
Vasanth also had mind-blowing performance by
Prakash Raj. With Aasai, Ajith became established as the pining lover who could rough up the baddies. The film ran for 210 days and offers began to pour. He followed it up in 1996 with Kadhal Kottai. Directed by Agathiyan, this gentle romance became a runaway hit and fetched a National award for direction. Ajith had surely arrived. Between 1996 and 1998, came a string of films like
Amarkalam, Uyirodu Uyiraga, Ullasam, Kadhal Mannan, Rettai Jadai Vayasu and Aval Varuvala.
Simran was his pair in Aval Varuvala. All these films did well and brought him a good name. But he was also hounded by constant media attention about his health problems and his on and off affair with actress Heera. When she walked out on him, he went into a depression.
He strode out with Unnai Thedi and
Vaali. Vaali, which marked the directorial debut of
S.J. Suryah was the unconventional story of a man lusting for his unsuspecting younger sibling’s wife, played by
Simran. Ajith did wonderfully as the two brothers. The film ran for packed houses for 270 days! Anandha Poongatrey, Mugavari and Poovellam Un Vasam were all creditable films.
Ajith moved on to being the action hero with Dheena, Citizen, Red and Villain. The fact that these films were being released in more and more theatres especially in rural areas and that the distributors were happy that they could recover a major portion in the opening week, brought him the nickname, King of Opening. He has worked in guest roles in many films mainly to help out young directors. The audio rights of one of his films, Kandukondein Kandukondein, were sold for 2.5 crores – an unbeaten record so far!
Yet there were some flip instances to what fame and fortune could do to a perfectly simple man. He started a long running war of words with another young hero and in the process antagonized several seniors in the industry. Many felt that Ajith had probably acquired a bloated ego to make up for professional failures like
Jana'. He also refused to do films and instead decided to take up
Formula 3 racing. After finding reasonable success on the track, he quit when he met with a near-fatal accident. He came back with Anjaneya and Ji, but both failed.
He then set about with the task of making up for lost time and regaining his place in the industry. His first comeback film, Paramasivan, released for Pongal this year has been declared a hit. His other release, T hirupathi, has been doing moderately well. He has shed a lot of weight and looks much more dashing than ever.
Can someone copy and paste into actual thing?
Thanking you
Benzee 10:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
This article seems to be suffering from a highly aggressive revert war between several users & User:Anwar saadat. I feel that a consensus is the only way this conflict can be resolved. Please carefully read the proposal below.
Proposal : I propose that the current version (i.e. the version as of 13 May 2006) be accepted as the base version of this article. Any new additions will definitely be welcome, but the edits reverted/removed by this version should not be added again as they have been accepted to be hagiographic & unencyclopedic by a majority of users. Note that the proposed version is by no means considered ideal or encyclopedic. I have mainly removed the links for songs to commercial websites, the terms like "Hit" & "Flop" & Plumcouch has removed the term "Ultimate star" from the lead-in. More cleanup is required as the article still contains bias. While additional cleanup is required in this article, more information added will always be welcome, albeit it confirms to the Wikipedia policies like NPOV, Verifiability, etc. Please add Accept, Reject, Neutral or any other suggestion below in the respective sections with your reasons & any suggestions you may have. Thank you. -- Srik e it( talk ¦ ✉) 00:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I have added a table for ajith's films, some one called User:Anwar saadat, keeps on deleting this, please say if the table does not suit you. But i think it makes the whole page look neater and more original. Please feel free to change it, but please put up a discussion first, mr anwar saadat. Jath16 17:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I would just like to say well done to everyone who has contributed on the ajith page for doing an excellent job to tidy up the article. Thank you folks! Jath16 17:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
In Joseph Vijay, Anwar has put in a comment saying that Ajith has taken over the "Numero Uno" position from Vijay. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 06:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |