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There is a lot of first-person FOV throughout the entire article, especially concerning the "Paintball vs. Airsoft" section. I don't feel it's a Good Article. Schnauf 03:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree it should stay. The issue of "Paintball vs. Airsoft" follows both sports. It simply puts out a few relations between the two sports. Nothing about it badgers either side more than the other. I think many readers have that exact question in their head and it's good to highlight a little about both.
As there is no reference to Green Gas anywhere in this article anymore. Propose Deletion of this section of this (much too long) Talk Page as irrelevant. Jonathonbarton 19:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Despite the supposed evidence that green gas is propane, I don't think it's quite proven yet, so I'd like to change this section to reflect the fact that don't quite know the truth of this matter.
Green gas is propane. However it also has other things in it to let it flow smothly through the gun. For more info on this go to http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=6335 -mikeh0303
I think there is too much overlap between these three articles. When one looks for information on a particular aspect of this topic, one sometimes finds it scattered across all three.
Please consider the following propositions:
I propose: 1. That the BB gun article be merged with the air gun article. 2. That the portions of the airsoft article relating to the mechanics and operation of airsoft guns be moved to the air gun. 3. That the airsoft article restrict itself to the sport of airsoft (including required equipment not thoroughly canvassed in other Wikipedia articles
So, in essence I propose that we have one article for the sport/ game of airsoft and one for air guns (whether designed for the sport of airsoft or not.
I'm posting this on the talk pages of all three articles. Please give us your thoughts. If there's no great opposition to this I'll go ahead and make the edits, but I thought it was only fair to raise the matter with contributors first. Wulfilia 19:38, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
We can agree that the sport of Airsoft belongs in a different article from air guns and BB guns. That is part of what I am suggesting. However, at the moment the Airsoft article is not confined to the sport of Airsoft. It also contains material about the mechanics and operation of air guns firing small round projectiles. However, not all the material relating to these Airsoft guns is in the Airsoft article. Some of it is in the BB gun and Air gun articles.
Strongly oppose, I believe this is someone looking at the sport from an outside perspective. Airsoft guns are not airguns! -b 19:01, 4 February 2006 (UTC) Strongly oppose, I, too, believe this is someone looking in from the outside. The distinction between Airsoft and Airgun/BB gun is one of intended use. Airsoft guns are sporting implements intended to harmlessly shoot at live human targets, much like paintball guns. Airguns/BB guns (in the US, anyway) are MUCH higher velocity, with MUCH more dangerous projectiles, and are often sold for light duty "varmint hunting" (squirrels, oppossums, etc.) in portions of the US. In my home state (Colorado), a person shooting someone with a BB gun can be arrested and tried for assault with a deadly weapon (depending on the severity of the injuries sustained). The same is not true for an airsoft gun, because (unlike a traditional "BB gun") the velocity and projectile density is simply not sufficent to cause significant injury even at the muzzle unless you directly shoot an unprotected eye or ear. Jonathon Barton 12 June 2006
It's worth mentioning that a lot of places (Australia and NZ, for one) make no legal differentiation between standard airguns and "soft air" guns. On that note, I was unaware the game was known as "Airsoft" in the West- when I lived in NZ the guns were almost universally called "Soft Air" guns, as people regarded "Airsoft" as being Engrish and not making much sense- whereas "Soft Air Gun" was a different type of Air Gun to the .177 calibre pellet models most people are familiar with. I've made mention of this in the main article, so hopefully that won't be a problem. -- Commander Zulu 03:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
...unless somebody can tell me why details of game rules are necessary for this article. I will leave behind a brief general description of how games are played. I'll wait a while for comments as I did with the legal section - Zhyla, 5-24-05
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There is a lot of first-person FOV throughout the entire article, especially concerning the "Paintball vs. Airsoft" section. I don't feel it's a Good Article. Schnauf 03:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree it should stay. The issue of "Paintball vs. Airsoft" follows both sports. It simply puts out a few relations between the two sports. Nothing about it badgers either side more than the other. I think many readers have that exact question in their head and it's good to highlight a little about both.
As there is no reference to Green Gas anywhere in this article anymore. Propose Deletion of this section of this (much too long) Talk Page as irrelevant. Jonathonbarton 19:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Despite the supposed evidence that green gas is propane, I don't think it's quite proven yet, so I'd like to change this section to reflect the fact that don't quite know the truth of this matter.
Green gas is propane. However it also has other things in it to let it flow smothly through the gun. For more info on this go to http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=6335 -mikeh0303
I think there is too much overlap between these three articles. When one looks for information on a particular aspect of this topic, one sometimes finds it scattered across all three.
Please consider the following propositions:
I propose: 1. That the BB gun article be merged with the air gun article. 2. That the portions of the airsoft article relating to the mechanics and operation of airsoft guns be moved to the air gun. 3. That the airsoft article restrict itself to the sport of airsoft (including required equipment not thoroughly canvassed in other Wikipedia articles
So, in essence I propose that we have one article for the sport/ game of airsoft and one for air guns (whether designed for the sport of airsoft or not.
I'm posting this on the talk pages of all three articles. Please give us your thoughts. If there's no great opposition to this I'll go ahead and make the edits, but I thought it was only fair to raise the matter with contributors first. Wulfilia 19:38, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
We can agree that the sport of Airsoft belongs in a different article from air guns and BB guns. That is part of what I am suggesting. However, at the moment the Airsoft article is not confined to the sport of Airsoft. It also contains material about the mechanics and operation of air guns firing small round projectiles. However, not all the material relating to these Airsoft guns is in the Airsoft article. Some of it is in the BB gun and Air gun articles.
Strongly oppose, I believe this is someone looking at the sport from an outside perspective. Airsoft guns are not airguns! -b 19:01, 4 February 2006 (UTC) Strongly oppose, I, too, believe this is someone looking in from the outside. The distinction between Airsoft and Airgun/BB gun is one of intended use. Airsoft guns are sporting implements intended to harmlessly shoot at live human targets, much like paintball guns. Airguns/BB guns (in the US, anyway) are MUCH higher velocity, with MUCH more dangerous projectiles, and are often sold for light duty "varmint hunting" (squirrels, oppossums, etc.) in portions of the US. In my home state (Colorado), a person shooting someone with a BB gun can be arrested and tried for assault with a deadly weapon (depending on the severity of the injuries sustained). The same is not true for an airsoft gun, because (unlike a traditional "BB gun") the velocity and projectile density is simply not sufficent to cause significant injury even at the muzzle unless you directly shoot an unprotected eye or ear. Jonathon Barton 12 June 2006
It's worth mentioning that a lot of places (Australia and NZ, for one) make no legal differentiation between standard airguns and "soft air" guns. On that note, I was unaware the game was known as "Airsoft" in the West- when I lived in NZ the guns were almost universally called "Soft Air" guns, as people regarded "Airsoft" as being Engrish and not making much sense- whereas "Soft Air Gun" was a different type of Air Gun to the .177 calibre pellet models most people are familiar with. I've made mention of this in the main article, so hopefully that won't be a problem. -- Commander Zulu 03:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
...unless somebody can tell me why details of game rules are necessary for this article. I will leave behind a brief general description of how games are played. I'll wait a while for comments as I did with the legal section - Zhyla, 5-24-05