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I have already added information in the "Identity of the Golden Image of Agusan" section regarding the disputes that surround the identification of the goddess behind the statue itself. H. Otley Beyer suggested that it is a female Sivaite goddess while Juan R. Francisco proposed that it is a Buddhist Tara instead, although admitting that his suggestions "are not conclusive" [1]. Meanwhile, in the book "Philippine Ancestral Gold" by Capistrano-Baker mentioned that the figurine is correctly identified as the goddess Vajralāsyā and not the Buddhist Tara. In light of the ongoing debates regarding the identity of the gold statue, I suggest renaming it to "Golden Image of Agusan" or "Agusan Gold Image", also because more neutral academic articles tend to name the image as such (like for example in the article of Juan R. Francisco itself, naming the image "Golden Image of Agusan" instead of "Golden Tara") as per the WP:NPOV guidelines. I also removed the nonsensical phrase added by 112.208.164.149 that "when it was purchased by the Field Museum of Chicago, they renamed it as Agusan Gold Image, though this name is rejected by scholars in the Philippines." as this bogus claim remained unsourced since the conception of this Wiki page. I'd like the opinion of other Wiki editors who left their footprint in this Wiki page regarding my proposal: Kguirnela, Continentaleurope, Frobird, Gunkarta, Enola gay0, Alternativity, Darwgon0801, and many others that I may have missed. Stricnina ( talk) 15:25, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
The Golden Image of Agusan. This artifact known as the "Agusan Golden Image" is probably the figure of a female deity
— Bauddha Dharmankur Sabha, Jagajjyoti (1972)
The extent of such influences is revealed by the archeological artifacts found in different islands, far apart from each other. A few significant ones are the Agusan Golden Image found on the left bank of the Wawa River in Agusan province of Mindanao[...]
— K.S. Sandhu, A. Mani, Indian Communities in Southeast Asia (First Reprint 2006)
Agusan Golden Image (Found in Agusan River and now located at the Field Museum in Chicago, Illinois, USA) (Courtesy of Butuan Museum)
— Ray L. Burdeos, Filipinos in the U.S. Navy & Coast Guard During the Vietnam War (2008)
PERHAPS one of the most spectacular discoveries in Philippine archeological history is the golden image known as the "Agusan Gold Image"
— Juan R. Francisco, A Note on the Golden Image of Agusan (1963)
Figure 15.3: Agusan Gold Vajralasya/Source: Image Courtesy of the Field Museum, Chicago
— Joefe B. Santarita, Enhancing India-Philippines Cooperation in Culture (2019)
Conclusion. No definite inference are to be drawn from the above discussion, for the suggestions are not conclusive.
Current heading "identity" communicates no meningful message for skip reading. better convention in wikipedia is to have the self descriptive headings. Since the identity is Hindu or Buddhist, it is better to make the heading self descriptive. Since Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism, it evolved as one of the reformist movement within Hinduism, both are indic religions. More self-descriptive heading is much better e.g. "Identity: Hindu-Buddhist image". Thanks. 58.182.176.169 ( talk) 20:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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I have already added information in the "Identity of the Golden Image of Agusan" section regarding the disputes that surround the identification of the goddess behind the statue itself. H. Otley Beyer suggested that it is a female Sivaite goddess while Juan R. Francisco proposed that it is a Buddhist Tara instead, although admitting that his suggestions "are not conclusive" [1]. Meanwhile, in the book "Philippine Ancestral Gold" by Capistrano-Baker mentioned that the figurine is correctly identified as the goddess Vajralāsyā and not the Buddhist Tara. In light of the ongoing debates regarding the identity of the gold statue, I suggest renaming it to "Golden Image of Agusan" or "Agusan Gold Image", also because more neutral academic articles tend to name the image as such (like for example in the article of Juan R. Francisco itself, naming the image "Golden Image of Agusan" instead of "Golden Tara") as per the WP:NPOV guidelines. I also removed the nonsensical phrase added by 112.208.164.149 that "when it was purchased by the Field Museum of Chicago, they renamed it as Agusan Gold Image, though this name is rejected by scholars in the Philippines." as this bogus claim remained unsourced since the conception of this Wiki page. I'd like the opinion of other Wiki editors who left their footprint in this Wiki page regarding my proposal: Kguirnela, Continentaleurope, Frobird, Gunkarta, Enola gay0, Alternativity, Darwgon0801, and many others that I may have missed. Stricnina ( talk) 15:25, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
The Golden Image of Agusan. This artifact known as the "Agusan Golden Image" is probably the figure of a female deity
— Bauddha Dharmankur Sabha, Jagajjyoti (1972)
The extent of such influences is revealed by the archeological artifacts found in different islands, far apart from each other. A few significant ones are the Agusan Golden Image found on the left bank of the Wawa River in Agusan province of Mindanao[...]
— K.S. Sandhu, A. Mani, Indian Communities in Southeast Asia (First Reprint 2006)
Agusan Golden Image (Found in Agusan River and now located at the Field Museum in Chicago, Illinois, USA) (Courtesy of Butuan Museum)
— Ray L. Burdeos, Filipinos in the U.S. Navy & Coast Guard During the Vietnam War (2008)
PERHAPS one of the most spectacular discoveries in Philippine archeological history is the golden image known as the "Agusan Gold Image"
— Juan R. Francisco, A Note on the Golden Image of Agusan (1963)
Figure 15.3: Agusan Gold Vajralasya/Source: Image Courtesy of the Field Museum, Chicago
— Joefe B. Santarita, Enhancing India-Philippines Cooperation in Culture (2019)
Conclusion. No definite inference are to be drawn from the above discussion, for the suggestions are not conclusive.
Current heading "identity" communicates no meningful message for skip reading. better convention in wikipedia is to have the self descriptive headings. Since the identity is Hindu or Buddhist, it is better to make the heading self descriptive. Since Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism, it evolved as one of the reformist movement within Hinduism, both are indic religions. More self-descriptive heading is much better e.g. "Identity: Hindu-Buddhist image". Thanks. 58.182.176.169 ( talk) 20:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)