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I've just removed this from the article. it is too POV and has been pasted into at least three articles. It should at least be tailored to this article, the references should be fixed and the rantish nature should be made NPOV. David D. (Talk) 04:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal, apprarently you do not agree this is POV since you keep reverting my edits here and on genetic erosion (same text pasted into that article too). Why are you unwilling to discuss these POV contributions you are making to wikipedia? Is it because you believe you are "right" and therefore consider any criticism of your contributions unworthy of your time? Below I have bolded blatant POV phrases that make this section completely unbalanced and representive an extreme opinion.
Much of this seems to come from Devinder Sharma who is sourced throughout this section. Devinder Sharma is a journalist turned activist, he seems to be well thought of from the perspective of a political voice on this subject, but he has no science credentials and if above mirrors his articles, clearly has an axe to grind. He may well be correct but the language he uses borders on propaganda. Wikipedia should view this issue from all angles and as objectively as possible, clearly Sharma's opinions can be mentioned but we must also ensure readers understand his role in this debate. i.e. one side of the debate. David D. (Talk) 18:41, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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I think this is a good goal. Certainly there will be a lot of traffic through this page. David D. (Talk) 22:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry David... it's late... I guess I meant examples of good layout/format for a similar type of topic...
It is a topic that would benefit from more photos and a few boxes/tables, I think.
But also from better structure into types of sections - for example: scope/definition(s); history/development of ideas; issues / current debates (including conservation, sustainable use, benefit sharing, losses/threats through technology, market pressures and legal systems) and related issues (including IPRs, Farmers'/Livestock Keepers' Rights, Genetic Engineering, GURTs); governance (including CBD, FAO, CGIAR, WTO, GEF, WIPO/UPOV); references/links.
All that can wait until content is clearer, I agree.
How much should one put into a single article, though?
Any advice welcome
PMM 23:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello -- 10+ years have gone by since you mentioned that the page needs reorganizing. I completely agree with you. Would anyone mind if i just had a go? Does anyone want to collaborate with me? I would say that quite a lot has changed in the last ten years of knowledge creation on this topic. It might be a good idea to organize from genes up to ecosystem level. Plus your types of sections above, which make perfect sense. I am a newby with Wikipedia however and may need some handholding. ArwenIncognito ( talk) 10:15, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Patrick, Are these the lost external links you refer to above? David D. (Talk) 23:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
PMM 22:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi David and others
I've been dragged into other work and have not been able to work on the reorganisation of the page - as I had hoped. However, there is intense activity around the CBD meeting that is focusing on agricultural biodiversity from 19 - 30 May. I've added a couple of links to the meeting in the main page. After this would be a better time to pull together current thinking on the issue.
PMM 17 May 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 16:13, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I recently created a new short article on genetic vulnerability which got immediately nominated for speedy deletion because it fit within an existing article. Fair enough! So I went looking for the most appropriate article to add my piece to, and I found two possibilities: 'Agricultural biodiversity' and 'Crop diversity'. Are these the same thing? Should they be merged? And if not, would either of them like to have a new section of genetic vulnerability? I shall leave this message on both talk pages and see what responses come up. The thing I wrote now lives in my sandbox at /info/en/?search=User:Foonarres/sandbox in case anyone wants to see it. Foonarres ( talk) 20:16, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
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I've just removed this from the article. it is too POV and has been pasted into at least three articles. It should at least be tailored to this article, the references should be fixed and the rantish nature should be made NPOV. David D. (Talk) 04:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal, apprarently you do not agree this is POV since you keep reverting my edits here and on genetic erosion (same text pasted into that article too). Why are you unwilling to discuss these POV contributions you are making to wikipedia? Is it because you believe you are "right" and therefore consider any criticism of your contributions unworthy of your time? Below I have bolded blatant POV phrases that make this section completely unbalanced and representive an extreme opinion.
Much of this seems to come from Devinder Sharma who is sourced throughout this section. Devinder Sharma is a journalist turned activist, he seems to be well thought of from the perspective of a political voice on this subject, but he has no science credentials and if above mirrors his articles, clearly has an axe to grind. He may well be correct but the language he uses borders on propaganda. Wikipedia should view this issue from all angles and as objectively as possible, clearly Sharma's opinions can be mentioned but we must also ensure readers understand his role in this debate. i.e. one side of the debate. David D. (Talk) 18:41, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
References
I think this is a good goal. Certainly there will be a lot of traffic through this page. David D. (Talk) 22:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry David... it's late... I guess I meant examples of good layout/format for a similar type of topic...
It is a topic that would benefit from more photos and a few boxes/tables, I think.
But also from better structure into types of sections - for example: scope/definition(s); history/development of ideas; issues / current debates (including conservation, sustainable use, benefit sharing, losses/threats through technology, market pressures and legal systems) and related issues (including IPRs, Farmers'/Livestock Keepers' Rights, Genetic Engineering, GURTs); governance (including CBD, FAO, CGIAR, WTO, GEF, WIPO/UPOV); references/links.
All that can wait until content is clearer, I agree.
How much should one put into a single article, though?
Any advice welcome
PMM 23:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello -- 10+ years have gone by since you mentioned that the page needs reorganizing. I completely agree with you. Would anyone mind if i just had a go? Does anyone want to collaborate with me? I would say that quite a lot has changed in the last ten years of knowledge creation on this topic. It might be a good idea to organize from genes up to ecosystem level. Plus your types of sections above, which make perfect sense. I am a newby with Wikipedia however and may need some handholding. ArwenIncognito ( talk) 10:15, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Patrick, Are these the lost external links you refer to above? David D. (Talk) 23:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
PMM 22:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi David and others
I've been dragged into other work and have not been able to work on the reorganisation of the page - as I had hoped. However, there is intense activity around the CBD meeting that is focusing on agricultural biodiversity from 19 - 30 May. I've added a couple of links to the meeting in the main page. After this would be a better time to pull together current thinking on the issue.
PMM 17 May 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 16:13, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I recently created a new short article on genetic vulnerability which got immediately nominated for speedy deletion because it fit within an existing article. Fair enough! So I went looking for the most appropriate article to add my piece to, and I found two possibilities: 'Agricultural biodiversity' and 'Crop diversity'. Are these the same thing? Should they be merged? And if not, would either of them like to have a new section of genetic vulnerability? I shall leave this message on both talk pages and see what responses come up. The thing I wrote now lives in my sandbox at /info/en/?search=User:Foonarres/sandbox in case anyone wants to see it. Foonarres ( talk) 20:16, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
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