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A poster was released for the AoS Season 3. Perhaps we can add it to the "Marketing" section? [1] Darkknight2149 ( talk) 20:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Marvel's referring to him as Sparkplug, but who knows if he will actually go by it in the show. Just wanted to see if other's had thoughts about adding it anywhere, or just holding off. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 22:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Apparently the season is getting a "Super Room" on iTunes but based on what it is described to be, it doesn't seem to be anything noteworthy. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 22:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
I figure this is a super long shot, but could we use the fact that he appeared in Team SHIELD's Dubsmash War video as confirmation? (And if you haven't been following SHIELD and Carter's Dubsmash War, its some good stuff.) - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 18:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
If anyone ever encounters the editor who makes these edits, as @ Adamstom.97 and AlexTheWhovian: did, they are a sockpuppet and should be reported immediately to SPI. If you use Twinkle, you can use the ARV part to report them. They are a "Sockpuppet" and the "Sockpuppeter" is LadyGaga2015. Here's a link to the relevant case file, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LadyGaga2015. I have already reported this user, but just of note for future reference, here or on the other season articles. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:41, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Here's the poster. However, here and other sites all have it with the watermark at the bottom. Let's be on the lookout for one that doesn't have it. If not, we may have to settle with this version. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 17:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Here's some great info to add to the article when it is (hopefully) created next week. [2] - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 04:12, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
The template is for the "original air date", meaning it should have only the date which the episode had originally aired (September 29, 2015). The ref. to the LA premiere shouldn't be inside the episode table, but simply cited on one of the topics of the season's article. — Artmanha ( talk) 23:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
The number of U.S. viewers should be 4.32 milion, not 4.28. 85.81.82.15 ( talk) 23:03, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Here. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:34, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a dispute as to whether or not the Secret Warriors are actually called the Secret Warriors, which is why I'm bringing this to the Talk Page. A user is arguing that the title of the comic "Secret Warriors" is not what the team is called, since they are never called that in the comic.
The first thing I want to point out is that, while they aren't referred to as "Secret Warriors" in the comic, they most definitely are in Agents of SHIELD. Secondly, they may not be called "Secret Warriors" in the comic but the name still refers to the team, therefore making the use of the phrase "team of the same name" correct (at least in my opinion). Thoughts? Darkknight2149 ( talk) 19:23, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't know if this is reliable, but it is something to look out for. - DinoSlider ( talk) 20:34, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93: Sorry about that, I was thinking about the above source, which does say recurring. - adamstom97 ( talk) 11:26, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Since this is who Dalton is playing now, and Dalton is still a billed actor, does this make Hive a main character? I want to say yes, but there's a part of me still feeling like maybe not. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 23:47, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
So this source announcing it "officially" puts some support back into at least doing Dalton as "Grant Ward / Hive". - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 18:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93 and Darkknight2149: Since we saw actual Hive (and not just Hive-in-Ward) last week, even if it was just from behind, and it was obviously portrayed by Dalton under CGI, I think we can now say that for the second half of the season Hive has been a main character. I suggest we change this article and the main series article to say "Brett Dalton as Grant Ward and Hive", with an added note at the main article about how Hive inhabits Ward's corpse. At the TV actors list we should add Hive to the "Introduced in Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3" section with Dalton listed as a main cast member for the character. As for the character list, I'm thinking we should make Hive almost like a sub character of Ward within the main characters section. Any thoughts on this? - adamstom97 ( talk) 05:22, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
There is quite a bit here, not sure how much of it is useful or where. - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:28, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Apparently, in "Watch Dogs" there is an easter egg to DD S2 with the gang war battles in Hell's Kitchen. Here's a link should we need it and a clearer one doesn't pop up after the episode airs (which I doubt). But still. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 20:18, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
@ LLArrow: I'll just start the discussion here, but it is for all three season articles. You are giving way too much space to the writing column that it doesn't need, while the director and date columns are almost so narrow that the info can't fit on one line. I fixed this issue by altering the widths so that each column has basically the same amount of padding on each side, but you have reverted this edit by saying that you are "fixing" it, which would only be true if your idea of fixing is the opposite of everybody elses. When I asked you to stop edit warring, you accused me of "exercising [my own] opinion" even though I had already explained the logic behind my edits and you have not. What do you have to say for yourself? - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:06, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Completely off-topic arguing.
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Amazing also how no one hints at making mistakes or accepting even a smidgen of the blame. Holier than thou. The information is cramped in the status quo form; or the writers. I guess people only give a s#%t when it's the airdate stressed for a bit of space. "No logic, no-brainer", should be Wikipedia's new motto.
LLArrow (
talk) 03:48, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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Let me try start this discussion again; hopefully everyone can focus on the issue at hand. LLArrow, if you are getting the writing info of the pilot wrapping around to a second line, then I am sorry, I completely understand how frustrating that would be and the want to fix it. But the way you have it is taking away the padding from the other cells, which to myself and presumably the others here is leaving a ridiculously spaced out cell surrounded by some with no spacing, and it is egregious because the info isn't wrapping around for us. If the decision is between most people having no space for 120-odd cells and some people having one cell wrapping around, I think it is clear what the logical conclusion of this discussion is. - adamstom97 ( talk) 05:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the reliable sources have picked up on this yet, but the promo for the next episode revealed that it will mark the beginning of an event known as Fallen Agent (presumably similar to the Uprising event from Season 1 that tied into Captain America: The Winter Soldier). Obviously we can't say anything until there's a source, but it's something to watch out for. Dark Knight 2149 02:15, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
With the plot summary on the episodes why is it that Daisy is referred to as Johnson and not Daisy. She is commonly refer to by her first and not her last name and the plot summaries should reflect that. 122.108.156.100 ( talk) 03:26, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
I came across this fan infograph on Reddit, and it makes me question us using "retcon" in the article. I think what the season did more so, as seen by the infograph, was reveal there were multiple sects of Hydra, with this religious one coming into existence before the scientific one that we saw in The First Avenger. Anyone else feel we should reword what we have here, to maybe remove or downplay "retcon"? - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 18:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
This article keeps linking Holden Radcliffe to Machine Teen, even though he's neither a machine nor a teen, plus there's nothing in Machine Teen that suggests any link to the cinematic universe. Is this vandalism? - 79.180.112.99 ( talk) 23:38, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I agree that this should not be linked. Linking Holden Radcliffe to Machine Teen implies that he is that character. That's like linking Polka Dot Man to Batman simply because he doesn't have an article. There isn't even a section on that article dedicated to Radcliffe. This link needs to be removed, as it is an obvious violation of WP:EASTEREGG. Dark Knight 2149 01:51, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Darkknight2149: We have always used retailers for release info; they are often the only place we learn of these things, especially for outside of America. Also, that seems like a pretty specific placeholder date. - adamstom97 ( talk) 21:51, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3 has been listed as one of the
Media and drama good articles under the
good article criteria. If you can improve it further,
please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
reassess it. Review: August 19, 2016. ( Reviewed version). |
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3 article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
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A poster was released for the AoS Season 3. Perhaps we can add it to the "Marketing" section? [1] Darkknight2149 ( talk) 20:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Marvel's referring to him as Sparkplug, but who knows if he will actually go by it in the show. Just wanted to see if other's had thoughts about adding it anywhere, or just holding off. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 22:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Apparently the season is getting a "Super Room" on iTunes but based on what it is described to be, it doesn't seem to be anything noteworthy. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 22:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
I figure this is a super long shot, but could we use the fact that he appeared in Team SHIELD's Dubsmash War video as confirmation? (And if you haven't been following SHIELD and Carter's Dubsmash War, its some good stuff.) - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 18:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
If anyone ever encounters the editor who makes these edits, as @ Adamstom.97 and AlexTheWhovian: did, they are a sockpuppet and should be reported immediately to SPI. If you use Twinkle, you can use the ARV part to report them. They are a "Sockpuppet" and the "Sockpuppeter" is LadyGaga2015. Here's a link to the relevant case file, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LadyGaga2015. I have already reported this user, but just of note for future reference, here or on the other season articles. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:41, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Here's the poster. However, here and other sites all have it with the watermark at the bottom. Let's be on the lookout for one that doesn't have it. If not, we may have to settle with this version. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 17:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Here's some great info to add to the article when it is (hopefully) created next week. [2] - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 04:12, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
The template is for the "original air date", meaning it should have only the date which the episode had originally aired (September 29, 2015). The ref. to the LA premiere shouldn't be inside the episode table, but simply cited on one of the topics of the season's article. — Artmanha ( talk) 23:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
The number of U.S. viewers should be 4.32 milion, not 4.28. 85.81.82.15 ( talk) 23:03, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Here. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:34, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a dispute as to whether or not the Secret Warriors are actually called the Secret Warriors, which is why I'm bringing this to the Talk Page. A user is arguing that the title of the comic "Secret Warriors" is not what the team is called, since they are never called that in the comic.
The first thing I want to point out is that, while they aren't referred to as "Secret Warriors" in the comic, they most definitely are in Agents of SHIELD. Secondly, they may not be called "Secret Warriors" in the comic but the name still refers to the team, therefore making the use of the phrase "team of the same name" correct (at least in my opinion). Thoughts? Darkknight2149 ( talk) 19:23, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't know if this is reliable, but it is something to look out for. - DinoSlider ( talk) 20:34, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93: Sorry about that, I was thinking about the above source, which does say recurring. - adamstom97 ( talk) 11:26, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Since this is who Dalton is playing now, and Dalton is still a billed actor, does this make Hive a main character? I want to say yes, but there's a part of me still feeling like maybe not. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 23:47, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
So this source announcing it "officially" puts some support back into at least doing Dalton as "Grant Ward / Hive". - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 18:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93 and Darkknight2149: Since we saw actual Hive (and not just Hive-in-Ward) last week, even if it was just from behind, and it was obviously portrayed by Dalton under CGI, I think we can now say that for the second half of the season Hive has been a main character. I suggest we change this article and the main series article to say "Brett Dalton as Grant Ward and Hive", with an added note at the main article about how Hive inhabits Ward's corpse. At the TV actors list we should add Hive to the "Introduced in Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3" section with Dalton listed as a main cast member for the character. As for the character list, I'm thinking we should make Hive almost like a sub character of Ward within the main characters section. Any thoughts on this? - adamstom97 ( talk) 05:22, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
There is quite a bit here, not sure how much of it is useful or where. - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:28, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Apparently, in "Watch Dogs" there is an easter egg to DD S2 with the gang war battles in Hell's Kitchen. Here's a link should we need it and a clearer one doesn't pop up after the episode airs (which I doubt). But still. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 20:18, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
@ LLArrow: I'll just start the discussion here, but it is for all three season articles. You are giving way too much space to the writing column that it doesn't need, while the director and date columns are almost so narrow that the info can't fit on one line. I fixed this issue by altering the widths so that each column has basically the same amount of padding on each side, but you have reverted this edit by saying that you are "fixing" it, which would only be true if your idea of fixing is the opposite of everybody elses. When I asked you to stop edit warring, you accused me of "exercising [my own] opinion" even though I had already explained the logic behind my edits and you have not. What do you have to say for yourself? - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:06, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Completely off-topic arguing.
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Amazing also how no one hints at making mistakes or accepting even a smidgen of the blame. Holier than thou. The information is cramped in the status quo form; or the writers. I guess people only give a s#%t when it's the airdate stressed for a bit of space. "No logic, no-brainer", should be Wikipedia's new motto.
LLArrow (
talk) 03:48, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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Let me try start this discussion again; hopefully everyone can focus on the issue at hand. LLArrow, if you are getting the writing info of the pilot wrapping around to a second line, then I am sorry, I completely understand how frustrating that would be and the want to fix it. But the way you have it is taking away the padding from the other cells, which to myself and presumably the others here is leaving a ridiculously spaced out cell surrounded by some with no spacing, and it is egregious because the info isn't wrapping around for us. If the decision is between most people having no space for 120-odd cells and some people having one cell wrapping around, I think it is clear what the logical conclusion of this discussion is. - adamstom97 ( talk) 05:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the reliable sources have picked up on this yet, but the promo for the next episode revealed that it will mark the beginning of an event known as Fallen Agent (presumably similar to the Uprising event from Season 1 that tied into Captain America: The Winter Soldier). Obviously we can't say anything until there's a source, but it's something to watch out for. Dark Knight 2149 02:15, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
With the plot summary on the episodes why is it that Daisy is referred to as Johnson and not Daisy. She is commonly refer to by her first and not her last name and the plot summaries should reflect that. 122.108.156.100 ( talk) 03:26, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
I came across this fan infograph on Reddit, and it makes me question us using "retcon" in the article. I think what the season did more so, as seen by the infograph, was reveal there were multiple sects of Hydra, with this religious one coming into existence before the scientific one that we saw in The First Avenger. Anyone else feel we should reword what we have here, to maybe remove or downplay "retcon"? - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 18:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
This article keeps linking Holden Radcliffe to Machine Teen, even though he's neither a machine nor a teen, plus there's nothing in Machine Teen that suggests any link to the cinematic universe. Is this vandalism? - 79.180.112.99 ( talk) 23:38, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I agree that this should not be linked. Linking Holden Radcliffe to Machine Teen implies that he is that character. That's like linking Polka Dot Man to Batman simply because he doesn't have an article. There isn't even a section on that article dedicated to Radcliffe. This link needs to be removed, as it is an obvious violation of WP:EASTEREGG. Dark Knight 2149 01:51, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Darkknight2149: We have always used retailers for release info; they are often the only place we learn of these things, especially for outside of America. Also, that seems like a pretty specific placeholder date. - adamstom97 ( talk) 21:51, 13 September 2016 (UTC)