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It is a short article, even because there is not too much to say about the Prince, since he died early. An article does not need to be long to be nominated, but is of great help. Trying to eliminate red links would contribute to evaluate the article, as well as some more details of his childhood.
Reviewer: Tonyjeff ( talk) 18:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Aside from the notes above, the article is pretty good. While short, there's no way around that given the short life. Anyway, here's a couple things to fix:
This is mostly nitpicking, granted. I'll put the article on hold and will pass it when these issues are addressed. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you for taking a look at the article. The red links seem to be to persons for whom we can hope that articles may eventually be provided. I have no problem with removing any red link which highlights a person which is likely to never be covered by Wikipedia, however. I have expanded the lead a bit to include the significance of his birth and early death to Brazil. I've also corrected the 2 mistakes you spotted, as I am almost certain that they are typing errors. Even if they are in the sources, the original language isn't English, and so should be corrected. Finally, I've reworded so that the "successor had to be a man" quote from Barman is no longer needed (and hopefully the reason is more easily understood by readers). I appreciate your having taken the time to review and draw attention to these issues. • Astynax talk 22:57, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
This is far more appropriate in the article regarding Pedro II, not the Prince himseld. I'm going to use this text on Consolidation of Pedro II of Brazil. -- Lecen ( talk) 14:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Emperor at the age of 5 and declared of age and fit to begin ruling at 14, Pedro II had been an awkward and shy adolescent, suspicious of everyone around him. He was thrust into a thankless and burdensome role as the national symbol for a country that had almost disintegrated during his childhood, wracked by a long series of widespread provincial rebellions. The death of his parents and his sister Paula during his childhood had created in Pedro II a fear of abandonment and a terror of becoming attached to anyone. The birth of his first son gave him a sense of purpose and belonging that had long been missing. [1]
"Fatherhood", said historian Roderick J. Barman, "gave the emperor the emotional security and the self-confidence so conspicuously missing during his childhood and adolescence." [1] Pedro II found it easier to break out of his social isolation, and he became more open, impartial, and polite. [2] His new confidence and openness allowed him to establish his authority as monarch and take "full control of his life and of the government". [2] Parenthood also produced a marked improvement in his relationship with his wife, Teresa Cristina, whom he had only married in the interests of the empire. The marriage thereafter became a happy one, aided by her faithful dedication, his development of a more stable and mature character, and their growing mutual domestic interests and affection. [3]
Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:47, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
From what I can see, this got to be a DFA with the support of just two editors, which doesn't speak well for the process.
But leaving that aside, and that it's startlingly short for a FA, the article makes a number of unsourced assertions. Beyond that, the highly speculative "Legacy" section -- pinning the downfall of the Brazilian Empire solely on this child's death -- comes from just a single source, and I'd rather want more sources backing up assertions of that magnitude ... at least in a FA. Respecting that this is a Daily FA is the only reason I don't slap a few tags on the article, but it needs a good bit of work for FA status, or else ought to be promptly downgraded to a "B" or "C" article. Ravenswing 10:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
As far as Crisco 1492's claim that the article was promoted with those claims having inline citations, it's plain he didn't check before he made it. The version that was promoted is linked above, and the lead has no inline citations at all. The two paragraphs of the "Legacy" section has but a single citation at the end of each one. Ravenswing 05:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
The lead image claims to show subject with sash of the Order of the Southern Cross, yet this is not mentioned in the Honors section. Explanation? user:davidships — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.171.128.162 ( talk) 09:08, 24 February 2015 (UTC) Davidships ( talk) 19:05, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure why this wasn't noted at FAR (maybe the standards were more lax back in 2011), but there are no references here. Even a single reference, such as in Henry I of England#Ancestry, would be good. Thanks. — howcheng { chat} 17:54, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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It is a short article, even because there is not too much to say about the Prince, since he died early. An article does not need to be long to be nominated, but is of great help. Trying to eliminate red links would contribute to evaluate the article, as well as some more details of his childhood.
Reviewer: Tonyjeff ( talk) 18:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Aside from the notes above, the article is pretty good. While short, there's no way around that given the short life. Anyway, here's a couple things to fix:
This is mostly nitpicking, granted. I'll put the article on hold and will pass it when these issues are addressed. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you for taking a look at the article. The red links seem to be to persons for whom we can hope that articles may eventually be provided. I have no problem with removing any red link which highlights a person which is likely to never be covered by Wikipedia, however. I have expanded the lead a bit to include the significance of his birth and early death to Brazil. I've also corrected the 2 mistakes you spotted, as I am almost certain that they are typing errors. Even if they are in the sources, the original language isn't English, and so should be corrected. Finally, I've reworded so that the "successor had to be a man" quote from Barman is no longer needed (and hopefully the reason is more easily understood by readers). I appreciate your having taken the time to review and draw attention to these issues. • Astynax talk 22:57, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
This is far more appropriate in the article regarding Pedro II, not the Prince himseld. I'm going to use this text on Consolidation of Pedro II of Brazil. -- Lecen ( talk) 14:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Emperor at the age of 5 and declared of age and fit to begin ruling at 14, Pedro II had been an awkward and shy adolescent, suspicious of everyone around him. He was thrust into a thankless and burdensome role as the national symbol for a country that had almost disintegrated during his childhood, wracked by a long series of widespread provincial rebellions. The death of his parents and his sister Paula during his childhood had created in Pedro II a fear of abandonment and a terror of becoming attached to anyone. The birth of his first son gave him a sense of purpose and belonging that had long been missing. [1]
"Fatherhood", said historian Roderick J. Barman, "gave the emperor the emotional security and the self-confidence so conspicuously missing during his childhood and adolescence." [1] Pedro II found it easier to break out of his social isolation, and he became more open, impartial, and polite. [2] His new confidence and openness allowed him to establish his authority as monarch and take "full control of his life and of the government". [2] Parenthood also produced a marked improvement in his relationship with his wife, Teresa Cristina, whom he had only married in the interests of the empire. The marriage thereafter became a happy one, aided by her faithful dedication, his development of a more stable and mature character, and their growing mutual domestic interests and affection. [3]
Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:47, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
From what I can see, this got to be a DFA with the support of just two editors, which doesn't speak well for the process.
But leaving that aside, and that it's startlingly short for a FA, the article makes a number of unsourced assertions. Beyond that, the highly speculative "Legacy" section -- pinning the downfall of the Brazilian Empire solely on this child's death -- comes from just a single source, and I'd rather want more sources backing up assertions of that magnitude ... at least in a FA. Respecting that this is a Daily FA is the only reason I don't slap a few tags on the article, but it needs a good bit of work for FA status, or else ought to be promptly downgraded to a "B" or "C" article. Ravenswing 10:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
As far as Crisco 1492's claim that the article was promoted with those claims having inline citations, it's plain he didn't check before he made it. The version that was promoted is linked above, and the lead has no inline citations at all. The two paragraphs of the "Legacy" section has but a single citation at the end of each one. Ravenswing 05:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
The lead image claims to show subject with sash of the Order of the Southern Cross, yet this is not mentioned in the Honors section. Explanation? user:davidships — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.171.128.162 ( talk) 09:08, 24 February 2015 (UTC) Davidships ( talk) 19:05, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure why this wasn't noted at FAR (maybe the standards were more lax back in 2011), but there are no references here. Even a single reference, such as in Henry I of England#Ancestry, would be good. Thanks. — howcheng { chat} 17:54, 9 June 2017 (UTC)