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Kindly set the image to a more manageable size? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.218.222.31 ( talk • contribs) 17:19, 11 April 2005 (UTC).
It seems that there's a distinct lack of Wikipedia articles about individual Aeronca aircraft types. Given their importance in U.S. civil aircraft history, surely the Champ and Chief deserve their own articles. Is anybody already working on this? If not, I might be willing to take up the challenge. Carguychris 15:28, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Guys, before you start "hacking away" at this page lets get the other pages done first. I was the person who started this page on Wiki, and considering that I am on the board of directors for the National Aeronca Assoc, owned Aeronca's for the last 35 years, and help "Aeronca people" on a bulletin board on a daily basis, it kinda perturbs me to see that someone has:
1. Deleted almost all the photos that everyone posted of the Aeronca's and replaced them with ones from England. The Aeronca was not made in England. If you really have to have a Aeronca showing "G" reg on the tail, then pls post one or two from there and leave the rest. Aeronca is not a British product!
2. Deleted the reference to "Aeronca club of Germany." You and I know who won the war but to make a comment like was done on the history page, and stay pissed off at them for 70 years is enough. I have returned the link to www.aeronca.de at the bottom of the page and if its deleted again will contact the moderators about it. WW2 ended a long time ago, get over it!
3. Someone deleted the entire copy about the 11AC Chief but left every other aircraft on the page. Why? If you are going to take all the planes off of this page, which I strongly disagree with as airplanes are what made Aeronca, then copy the information to another Wiki page designated to the Champ, Chief and so on. I just spent 45 minutes returning the 11AC to the page. Lets leave it there.
Now, lets move on and make the page one of the best on Wiki. I have owned and restored three Aeronca's and have one sitting out in the hangar right now. Love the planes and lets make it show here.
Joe A
The photos that I contributed were ones I took at the National Aeronca Association Fly-in and have been opened up for anyone's use several years ago. They have been published on many websites and publications, and are available for anyone's use for free.
Now about the English photos. The gent you mentioned deleted photos and replaced them that he had taken, saying that the others were "not good quality" when there was nothing wrong with the photos. If he wants to put his photos up, then do it next to the others, but to make up a excuse based on quality is not correct.
The German website is in both English and German on many pages. Just looked there and there are multiple pages in both languages. In case you are not familiar with aviation, English is the official language of all airmen. If you fly, you normally have to know and understand English. That's why at least half of the German Aeronca site is in both languages.
Considering that I have lived in 6 countries so far in life, speak three languages and travel the world as a pilot, yes, I do know that there is a Wikipedia in many languages. Make an Aeronca page on the German Wikipedia? In English? Then I would be told by the MODs of the German Wiki to move it to an English site! I would have love to link to a Wiki page on the German version but there is none at this time and considering that I am not German, am not going to try to write one. If you speak German would be happy to help you with it but no way I could do it.
I know full well that this is not "my" page, its a public site. I have my own website but when I see people using poor excuses to post their photos and delete others (and not all of those whose were deleted were mine) as well as as well as removing links to a German site because its "simply irritating to the English" then its time to say something. The last time I looked Germany was one of our Allies, no? The others can remove all they want to, but as long as its done in the manner as above I am free to put it right back.
Agree with part of the issue on the planes on the website. While I agree that individual pages can and probably should be made on the planes, to delete all of them from the page is not something that I can agree with. Sorry, but Aeronca was the first company to make the light plane in America, and did so for almost 25 years. Their planes have taught hundreds of thousands of people to fly and taking the actual airplanes off of the main page is too much.
Joe A ~~~~
Not Hacking Away, but Going Away: I have no desire to get involved in a pissing contest here over who loves the Aeronca Corporation or its products more. As I used the phrase first, I would point out that reading more carefully might have helped; what I actually said was that "I don't want to just start hacking away" (emphasis added), and further that in working on this page I was going to "add and incorporate where appropriate, then cut." Anyway, sorry for treading on your turf. Hmm... Suddenly working on the Aeronca page isn't fun anymore, so I'm headed for a page that is. Have a nice day. SkipperPilot 16:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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A lot of good information, and most of the required info, but needs expansion. - Trevor MacInnis ( Contribs) 21:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC) |
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Kindly set the image to a more manageable size? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.218.222.31 ( talk • contribs) 17:19, 11 April 2005 (UTC).
It seems that there's a distinct lack of Wikipedia articles about individual Aeronca aircraft types. Given their importance in U.S. civil aircraft history, surely the Champ and Chief deserve their own articles. Is anybody already working on this? If not, I might be willing to take up the challenge. Carguychris 15:28, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Guys, before you start "hacking away" at this page lets get the other pages done first. I was the person who started this page on Wiki, and considering that I am on the board of directors for the National Aeronca Assoc, owned Aeronca's for the last 35 years, and help "Aeronca people" on a bulletin board on a daily basis, it kinda perturbs me to see that someone has:
1. Deleted almost all the photos that everyone posted of the Aeronca's and replaced them with ones from England. The Aeronca was not made in England. If you really have to have a Aeronca showing "G" reg on the tail, then pls post one or two from there and leave the rest. Aeronca is not a British product!
2. Deleted the reference to "Aeronca club of Germany." You and I know who won the war but to make a comment like was done on the history page, and stay pissed off at them for 70 years is enough. I have returned the link to www.aeronca.de at the bottom of the page and if its deleted again will contact the moderators about it. WW2 ended a long time ago, get over it!
3. Someone deleted the entire copy about the 11AC Chief but left every other aircraft on the page. Why? If you are going to take all the planes off of this page, which I strongly disagree with as airplanes are what made Aeronca, then copy the information to another Wiki page designated to the Champ, Chief and so on. I just spent 45 minutes returning the 11AC to the page. Lets leave it there.
Now, lets move on and make the page one of the best on Wiki. I have owned and restored three Aeronca's and have one sitting out in the hangar right now. Love the planes and lets make it show here.
Joe A
The photos that I contributed were ones I took at the National Aeronca Association Fly-in and have been opened up for anyone's use several years ago. They have been published on many websites and publications, and are available for anyone's use for free.
Now about the English photos. The gent you mentioned deleted photos and replaced them that he had taken, saying that the others were "not good quality" when there was nothing wrong with the photos. If he wants to put his photos up, then do it next to the others, but to make up a excuse based on quality is not correct.
The German website is in both English and German on many pages. Just looked there and there are multiple pages in both languages. In case you are not familiar with aviation, English is the official language of all airmen. If you fly, you normally have to know and understand English. That's why at least half of the German Aeronca site is in both languages.
Considering that I have lived in 6 countries so far in life, speak three languages and travel the world as a pilot, yes, I do know that there is a Wikipedia in many languages. Make an Aeronca page on the German Wikipedia? In English? Then I would be told by the MODs of the German Wiki to move it to an English site! I would have love to link to a Wiki page on the German version but there is none at this time and considering that I am not German, am not going to try to write one. If you speak German would be happy to help you with it but no way I could do it.
I know full well that this is not "my" page, its a public site. I have my own website but when I see people using poor excuses to post their photos and delete others (and not all of those whose were deleted were mine) as well as as well as removing links to a German site because its "simply irritating to the English" then its time to say something. The last time I looked Germany was one of our Allies, no? The others can remove all they want to, but as long as its done in the manner as above I am free to put it right back.
Agree with part of the issue on the planes on the website. While I agree that individual pages can and probably should be made on the planes, to delete all of them from the page is not something that I can agree with. Sorry, but Aeronca was the first company to make the light plane in America, and did so for almost 25 years. Their planes have taught hundreds of thousands of people to fly and taking the actual airplanes off of the main page is too much.
Joe A ~~~~
Not Hacking Away, but Going Away: I have no desire to get involved in a pissing contest here over who loves the Aeronca Corporation or its products more. As I used the phrase first, I would point out that reading more carefully might have helped; what I actually said was that "I don't want to just start hacking away" (emphasis added), and further that in working on this page I was going to "add and incorporate where appropriate, then cut." Anyway, sorry for treading on your turf. Hmm... Suddenly working on the Aeronca page isn't fun anymore, so I'm headed for a page that is. Have a nice day. SkipperPilot 16:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Aeronca Aircraft/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
A lot of good information, and most of the required info, but needs expansion. - Trevor MacInnis ( Contribs) 21:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC) |
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