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Utah decriminalized adultery in 2019, as it states in the article. It would be nice if someone could update the map. Galaxy1011 ( talk) 08:00, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Several parts of this article refer to a "double standard" between male and female adultery as though this is some heinous bigotry; I note here that the ENWP article for double standard itself begins: "A double standard is the application of different sets of principles for situations that are, in principle, the same."
The unfortunate fact of the matter is that male and female adultery are not identical in consequences, due to mater semper certa est. A husband who is unfaithful to his wife cannot trick his wife into thinking any resulting children are her own; a wife who is unfaithful to her husband can. Given the enormous time and material investment associated with parenting, which most wish to reserve for their own children, this creates a fundamental asymmetry in the crime (one that has partially been rectified in the modern day via paternity testing, true, but that is not retroactive), and thus an asymmetry in the punishment is not unjust.
There is currently no connection drawn between the sex-specific nature of uncertainty of paternity and the asymmetry in punishment, which I think overly dismisses ancient customs. Magic9mushroom ( talk) 08:41, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
New text was added in the section "Biblical sources" by Al-Andalus, but absolutely no sources were cited. It reads like an essay presenting the personal thoughts of the author, rather than an encyclopedic analysis of the religious doctrine; and the tone is also unencyclopedic. Given that the section deals with the bible, it has to cite text from the bible and add scholarly interpretations from reliable sources for that text in order to explain the biblical concept of adultery; otherwise it's simply WP:OR and violates WP:V. I suggest the new text be cut until the problem is fixed. 2A02:2F0F:B1FF:FFFF:0:0:6463:DD53 ( talk) 18:09, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
The current lede (recently changed) reads:"Adultery (from Latin adulterium; ad- + alterō, “I change/alter [one lineage for another”]) is extra-marital sex partaken by a spouse, or premarital sex partaken by a betrothed person, that is considered objectionable on social, religious, moral, or legal grounds."
Regarding the srimad bhagavatam chapter, as editor wrote in the subsection that said chapter of srimad bhagavatam related to the adultery. However primary sources doesn't state that anywhere as we have more than the forty four commentaries on said passage but editor chose to used wendy doniger who is controversial scholar however even we look into her book's passage she didn't citated any scholars and not even primary source. We need to be objective in this as using such radical opinion result in misinterpretation and increasing in hinduphobia.
Regarding the manusmriti verses, edictor cited wire's news article which was not even wrote by the scholars and not even cited the commentaries over quoted verses.I don't why editor chose to cite the wire's article.
For manusmriti verse 5.154 I am citing the Manusmriti With 9 Commentaries ed. by JH Dave https://archive.org/details/manusmriti-with-9-commentaries-combined-file/page/n1189/mode/2up?view=theater Trika Shaivism ( talk) 06:36, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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Utah decriminalized adultery in 2019, as it states in the article. It would be nice if someone could update the map. Galaxy1011 ( talk) 08:00, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Several parts of this article refer to a "double standard" between male and female adultery as though this is some heinous bigotry; I note here that the ENWP article for double standard itself begins: "A double standard is the application of different sets of principles for situations that are, in principle, the same."
The unfortunate fact of the matter is that male and female adultery are not identical in consequences, due to mater semper certa est. A husband who is unfaithful to his wife cannot trick his wife into thinking any resulting children are her own; a wife who is unfaithful to her husband can. Given the enormous time and material investment associated with parenting, which most wish to reserve for their own children, this creates a fundamental asymmetry in the crime (one that has partially been rectified in the modern day via paternity testing, true, but that is not retroactive), and thus an asymmetry in the punishment is not unjust.
There is currently no connection drawn between the sex-specific nature of uncertainty of paternity and the asymmetry in punishment, which I think overly dismisses ancient customs. Magic9mushroom ( talk) 08:41, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
New text was added in the section "Biblical sources" by Al-Andalus, but absolutely no sources were cited. It reads like an essay presenting the personal thoughts of the author, rather than an encyclopedic analysis of the religious doctrine; and the tone is also unencyclopedic. Given that the section deals with the bible, it has to cite text from the bible and add scholarly interpretations from reliable sources for that text in order to explain the biblical concept of adultery; otherwise it's simply WP:OR and violates WP:V. I suggest the new text be cut until the problem is fixed. 2A02:2F0F:B1FF:FFFF:0:0:6463:DD53 ( talk) 18:09, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
The current lede (recently changed) reads:"Adultery (from Latin adulterium; ad- + alterō, “I change/alter [one lineage for another”]) is extra-marital sex partaken by a spouse, or premarital sex partaken by a betrothed person, that is considered objectionable on social, religious, moral, or legal grounds."
Regarding the srimad bhagavatam chapter, as editor wrote in the subsection that said chapter of srimad bhagavatam related to the adultery. However primary sources doesn't state that anywhere as we have more than the forty four commentaries on said passage but editor chose to used wendy doniger who is controversial scholar however even we look into her book's passage she didn't citated any scholars and not even primary source. We need to be objective in this as using such radical opinion result in misinterpretation and increasing in hinduphobia.
Regarding the manusmriti verses, edictor cited wire's news article which was not even wrote by the scholars and not even cited the commentaries over quoted verses.I don't why editor chose to cite the wire's article.
For manusmriti verse 5.154 I am citing the Manusmriti With 9 Commentaries ed. by JH Dave https://archive.org/details/manusmriti-with-9-commentaries-combined-file/page/n1189/mode/2up?view=theater Trika Shaivism ( talk) 06:36, 28 June 2024 (UTC)