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Δεν θα 'πρεπε να το ενωσουμε με το Georgiades Bros ; User:Panosfidis
Νομίζω πως ο Άδωνις έχει περισσότερες δημόσιες δραστηριότητες από τον αδερφό του, καθώς και επίσημη θέση στο κόμμα του. Έτσι νομίζω πως το παρόν πρέπει να παραμείνει και η σελίδα για τους Georgiades Bros να παραμείνει ξεχωριστή ή να ενωθεί με τη σελίδα για την Ellinon Egersis που παρουσιάζουν μαζί. ReinesLicht 09:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
OK λογικο. user:Panosfidis
Κατά την δικιά μου άποψη η Λεονίδας Γεωργιάδης αποτελεί καθαρά διακοσμητικό στοιχείο στην εκπομπή μολονότι στους τίτλους της εκπομπής εμφανίζεται ως παρουσιαστής ενώ ο Άδωνις ως Guest και σχολιαστής, μολονότι φέρει (ο Άδωνις) το κύριο βάρος της εκπομπής. Αυτό γίνεται για προφανής λόγους ασυμβιβάστου με την πολιτική του ιδιότητα. Είναι χαρακτηριστικό ότι στις διάφορες σατυρικές εκπομπές όπου σατυρίζεται το εν λόγο τηλεοπτικό δύδιμο παρουσιάζεται να κουνάει το κεφάλη του καταφατικά να συμφωνεί μονολεκτικά με τον αδερφό του και όταν το αποφασίσει να μιλήσει τον διακόπτει πάντα ο Άδωνις. Και να σβηστεί το άρθρο του Λεονίδα Γεωργιάδη και να τοποθετηθεί στο άρθρο του Άδωνι δεν νομίζω να λήψει σε κανέναν.
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Ο συνεργάτης "Χωρίς Όνομα".
-- δηλαδή εσύ κύριε "Χωρίς Όνομα" δε νιώθεις καθόλου πόσο ρεζίλι γίνεσαι, που έρχεσαι εδώ να σπύρεις την εθνικόφρονη "σοφία" σου, και να παρίστανεις τον αντικειμενικό λέγοντας τον άλλον λαθρομετανάστη;;; Είσαι τουλάχιστον όσο ξεφτίλες ειναι οι χρυσαυγίτες χρήστες του φέισμπουκ, που θίγονται όταν καταδικάζεται η ρατσιστική τους λογοδιάρρεια... Όλο σου το σχόλιο σε αφορά πριν αφορέσει κανέναν άλλο. Και μη χαλιέσαι αμα η Wikipedia δεν σε πληρεί αν δεν εκφράζει την άποψη σου. Φαντάσου πως θα ήταν το αρθρο του ΕΛΑΣ αμά καθε πορωμένος ΚΚΕς ερχόταν να πει τα δικά του... Εξ'αλλου, μπορείς να φτιαξεις δικιά σου, πες την "φασιστοπαίδεια", όπως κάνανε οι αλητήριοι μετά το μπάτσο που φάγανε στο φέισμπουκ. Έτσι να καθεστε μεταξύ σας να βράζετε στο ζουμί σας και στην φαντασιοπληξία σας...
Linguistic criticism link points to a main page of an author and not to specific criticism regarding Adonis Georgiades. Please correct this. ReinesLicht 12:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
The article seems like it might have been created by the subject itself, or at least by a fan or party member. For example, the article does not even once mention the subject's anti-semitism, which is what he is mainly known for in Greece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allinthebrain ( talk • contribs) 20:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
i agree that the article lacks neutrality. AG is not only anti-semitic, he's a greek suprematist, and the only reason he's not with the neo-nazis is because he's also an ultra-capitalist opened to the "pinochetisation" of Greece currently under way. He's also for a autoritary police state (so direct democracy my ass), and has explicitly expressed on TV the idea that a well functioning police should not be ashamed of killing innocent civilians in the course of its action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.194.8.73 ( talk) 16:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
1. Πουθενά στο σχετικό βίντεο δεν αναφέρει ότι οι αριστεροί "spoiling the legacy of a man, who should be remembered as a national hero for generations to come", το σχετικό χωρίο διαγράφεται
2. Πουθενά στο σχετικό βίντεο δεν αναφέρει για τους νέους του Πολυτεχνείου "spontaneous student youth uprising was manipulated by foreign secret agents", αντικαθιστώ τη λέξη manipulated με τη λέξη involved.
3. Πουθενά στο σχετικό βίντεο δεν αναφέρει ότι "there was no popular opposition to the military regime"
4. Η πηγή που παραπέμπει σε βίντεο στο οποίο υποτίθεται ότι λέει "the Jewish people by controlling the global banking system can use it as a weapon to blackmail and control foreign countries, including Greece" οδηγεί σε λογαριασμό μη ενεργό, επομένως το σχετικό χωρίο διαγράφεται.
5. Πουθενά δεν αναφέρει στο σχετικό βίντεο για το Ελληνικό Παρατηρητήριο του Ελσίνκι "as part of their attempt to compromise Greece's good name", η σχετική δήλωση διαγράφεται.
7. Αλλάζω το "couple years" σε "20 years", όπως αναφέρεται στο σχετικό βίντεο.
8. Το σχετικό βίντεο αναφέρεται στο θέμα με τη σχολική παρέλαση και τον Τσενάι, δεν κατηγόρησε συγκεκριμένα τον Γεωργιάδη, οπότε το συγκεκριμένο χωρίο διαγράφεται.
9. Στο σχετικό βίντεο δεν αναφέρει "and other garbage like that" αλλά "κάθε καρυδιάς καρύδι", οπότε το αφαιρώ προς αποφυγή παρεξηγήσεων. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gun frontier ( talk • contribs) 03:57, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
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@ SJCAmerican and Catlemur: I brought back the text, with better sourses supporting it. I have to say that Lakis Lazopoulos commentary is a secondary source. I removed the description of Lazopoulos as his opponent, since that would be OR. Τζερόνυμο ( talk) 07:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
There is indeed extensive whitewashing going on here. He is an antisemite, who has held the most extreme nationalist views, this has to be mentioned in the article whether it i controversial or not. Also, his books were the product of plagiarism, the info is available on the Greek wikipedia. Greece666 ( talk) 20:38, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
The alleged antisemitism should be backed by reliable non-partizan sources, i.e. other than an Israeli newspaper based on the opinion of a Jewish NGO, and the leftist column "IOS" (the latter against the WP rules). Regarding the famous book of Plevris, the case was brought to Justice by the Israeli community of Greece, and K. Plevris was found innocent, if I remember well. We must see again the w.p. rules about articles on living persons and politicians.-- Skylax30 ( talk) 17:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
This section reads as if Georgiadis were a political maverick. In reality, these claims are common place among many Greek conservatives and no one associates these views with Georgiadis in particular. This should be clearly reflected in the section Greece666 ( talk) 09:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Georgiadis is a historian only in the sense that he studied history at University. Not sure this is enough to have him mentioned as historian in the first paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greece666 ( talk • contribs) 17:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
To further my point, Konstantinos Karamanlis Jr, who has a PhD in history from Tufts is not mentioned as "historian". -- Greece666 ( talk) 17:29, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Having used several academic articles by well-known theorists to back my claims, I challenge the user who has been reverting me to present evidence against the claim that Georgiadis is far-right. Until then, please stop reverting this. It is a well-known fact that Georgiadis is tied to certain extreme movements and ideas. NikolaosFanaris ( talk) 16:35, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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Δεν θα 'πρεπε να το ενωσουμε με το Georgiades Bros ; User:Panosfidis
Νομίζω πως ο Άδωνις έχει περισσότερες δημόσιες δραστηριότητες από τον αδερφό του, καθώς και επίσημη θέση στο κόμμα του. Έτσι νομίζω πως το παρόν πρέπει να παραμείνει και η σελίδα για τους Georgiades Bros να παραμείνει ξεχωριστή ή να ενωθεί με τη σελίδα για την Ellinon Egersis που παρουσιάζουν μαζί. ReinesLicht 09:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
OK λογικο. user:Panosfidis
Κατά την δικιά μου άποψη η Λεονίδας Γεωργιάδης αποτελεί καθαρά διακοσμητικό στοιχείο στην εκπομπή μολονότι στους τίτλους της εκπομπής εμφανίζεται ως παρουσιαστής ενώ ο Άδωνις ως Guest και σχολιαστής, μολονότι φέρει (ο Άδωνις) το κύριο βάρος της εκπομπής. Αυτό γίνεται για προφανής λόγους ασυμβιβάστου με την πολιτική του ιδιότητα. Είναι χαρακτηριστικό ότι στις διάφορες σατυρικές εκπομπές όπου σατυρίζεται το εν λόγο τηλεοπτικό δύδιμο παρουσιάζεται να κουνάει το κεφάλη του καταφατικά να συμφωνεί μονολεκτικά με τον αδερφό του και όταν το αποφασίσει να μιλήσει τον διακόπτει πάντα ο Άδωνις. Και να σβηστεί το άρθρο του Λεονίδα Γεωργιάδη και να τοποθετηθεί στο άρθρο του Άδωνι δεν νομίζω να λήψει σε κανέναν.
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Εσύ πάντως σχολείο δεν έχεις πάει ώστε να μάθεις να μιλάς και να γράφεις σωστά Ελληνικά, οπότε μέχρι να μπορείς να συνομιλήσεις σε ικανοποιητικό επίπεδο, από το αυτί και στον δάσκαλο μπάς και ξεστραβωθείς. Βέβαια παίζει να είσαι και ένας από αυτούς τους λαθρομετανάστες οπότε κάθε σχόλιο περιττεύει. Μην μας λέτε όμως μετά για την Wikipedia και το πόσο έγκριτη εγκυκλοπαίδεια είναι. Ένα χάλι και μισό όπου ο κάθε πικραμένος μπαίνει, γράφει ό,τι του καπνίσει χωρίς έλεγχο, έτσι για να βγάλει τα απωθημένα του. Ντροπή σας, αυτό το άρθρο προσβάλλει βάναυσα την έννοια νοημοσύνη.
Ο συνεργάτης "Χωρίς Όνομα".
-- δηλαδή εσύ κύριε "Χωρίς Όνομα" δε νιώθεις καθόλου πόσο ρεζίλι γίνεσαι, που έρχεσαι εδώ να σπύρεις την εθνικόφρονη "σοφία" σου, και να παρίστανεις τον αντικειμενικό λέγοντας τον άλλον λαθρομετανάστη;;; Είσαι τουλάχιστον όσο ξεφτίλες ειναι οι χρυσαυγίτες χρήστες του φέισμπουκ, που θίγονται όταν καταδικάζεται η ρατσιστική τους λογοδιάρρεια... Όλο σου το σχόλιο σε αφορά πριν αφορέσει κανέναν άλλο. Και μη χαλιέσαι αμα η Wikipedia δεν σε πληρεί αν δεν εκφράζει την άποψη σου. Φαντάσου πως θα ήταν το αρθρο του ΕΛΑΣ αμά καθε πορωμένος ΚΚΕς ερχόταν να πει τα δικά του... Εξ'αλλου, μπορείς να φτιαξεις δικιά σου, πες την "φασιστοπαίδεια", όπως κάνανε οι αλητήριοι μετά το μπάτσο που φάγανε στο φέισμπουκ. Έτσι να καθεστε μεταξύ σας να βράζετε στο ζουμί σας και στην φαντασιοπληξία σας...
Linguistic criticism link points to a main page of an author and not to specific criticism regarding Adonis Georgiades. Please correct this. ReinesLicht 12:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
The article seems like it might have been created by the subject itself, or at least by a fan or party member. For example, the article does not even once mention the subject's anti-semitism, which is what he is mainly known for in Greece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allinthebrain ( talk • contribs) 20:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
i agree that the article lacks neutrality. AG is not only anti-semitic, he's a greek suprematist, and the only reason he's not with the neo-nazis is because he's also an ultra-capitalist opened to the "pinochetisation" of Greece currently under way. He's also for a autoritary police state (so direct democracy my ass), and has explicitly expressed on TV the idea that a well functioning police should not be ashamed of killing innocent civilians in the course of its action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.194.8.73 ( talk) 16:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
1. Πουθενά στο σχετικό βίντεο δεν αναφέρει ότι οι αριστεροί "spoiling the legacy of a man, who should be remembered as a national hero for generations to come", το σχετικό χωρίο διαγράφεται
2. Πουθενά στο σχετικό βίντεο δεν αναφέρει για τους νέους του Πολυτεχνείου "spontaneous student youth uprising was manipulated by foreign secret agents", αντικαθιστώ τη λέξη manipulated με τη λέξη involved.
3. Πουθενά στο σχετικό βίντεο δεν αναφέρει ότι "there was no popular opposition to the military regime"
4. Η πηγή που παραπέμπει σε βίντεο στο οποίο υποτίθεται ότι λέει "the Jewish people by controlling the global banking system can use it as a weapon to blackmail and control foreign countries, including Greece" οδηγεί σε λογαριασμό μη ενεργό, επομένως το σχετικό χωρίο διαγράφεται.
5. Πουθενά δεν αναφέρει στο σχετικό βίντεο για το Ελληνικό Παρατηρητήριο του Ελσίνκι "as part of their attempt to compromise Greece's good name", η σχετική δήλωση διαγράφεται.
7. Αλλάζω το "couple years" σε "20 years", όπως αναφέρεται στο σχετικό βίντεο.
8. Το σχετικό βίντεο αναφέρεται στο θέμα με τη σχολική παρέλαση και τον Τσενάι, δεν κατηγόρησε συγκεκριμένα τον Γεωργιάδη, οπότε το συγκεκριμένο χωρίο διαγράφεται.
9. Στο σχετικό βίντεο δεν αναφέρει "and other garbage like that" αλλά "κάθε καρυδιάς καρύδι", οπότε το αφαιρώ προς αποφυγή παρεξηγήσεων. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gun frontier ( talk • contribs) 03:57, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
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@ SJCAmerican and Catlemur: I brought back the text, with better sourses supporting it. I have to say that Lakis Lazopoulos commentary is a secondary source. I removed the description of Lazopoulos as his opponent, since that would be OR. Τζερόνυμο ( talk) 07:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
There is indeed extensive whitewashing going on here. He is an antisemite, who has held the most extreme nationalist views, this has to be mentioned in the article whether it i controversial or not. Also, his books were the product of plagiarism, the info is available on the Greek wikipedia. Greece666 ( talk) 20:38, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
The alleged antisemitism should be backed by reliable non-partizan sources, i.e. other than an Israeli newspaper based on the opinion of a Jewish NGO, and the leftist column "IOS" (the latter against the WP rules). Regarding the famous book of Plevris, the case was brought to Justice by the Israeli community of Greece, and K. Plevris was found innocent, if I remember well. We must see again the w.p. rules about articles on living persons and politicians.-- Skylax30 ( talk) 17:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
This section reads as if Georgiadis were a political maverick. In reality, these claims are common place among many Greek conservatives and no one associates these views with Georgiadis in particular. This should be clearly reflected in the section Greece666 ( talk) 09:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Georgiadis is a historian only in the sense that he studied history at University. Not sure this is enough to have him mentioned as historian in the first paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greece666 ( talk • contribs) 17:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
To further my point, Konstantinos Karamanlis Jr, who has a PhD in history from Tufts is not mentioned as "historian". -- Greece666 ( talk) 17:29, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Having used several academic articles by well-known theorists to back my claims, I challenge the user who has been reverting me to present evidence against the claim that Georgiadis is far-right. Until then, please stop reverting this. It is a well-known fact that Georgiadis is tied to certain extreme movements and ideas. NikolaosFanaris ( talk) 16:35, 9 July 2022 (UTC)