refs 3 aand 6 appear to be the same and the year of publication needs completing Done
reference ranges need looking at refs 32 and 33 for example we have Baker 1996, pp. 68—69 with a long dash and Baker 1996, pp. 70-72. with a short one Done
The two Galland books are not secondary sources in connection to himself if used in connection to another matter i.e specifications on an aircraft that would be another matter
Can you clarify: can I not use him to state his personal view on the Bf 109F for example?
Dapi89 (
talk) 15:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Yes but in quotes Done
Some of the images need full names and linked for persons in them Göring and Mölder Done
'Wilhelm-Ferdinand, a 54 victory ace, was shot down on 17 August 1943.' - do we know what happened to his as its cut off rather abruptly Done
In the Pilot training section Weimar Republic could be linked Done
All the pilots, and Adolf - no need for and Adolf as all the pilots accepted the invatation Done
In the into the Luftwaffe section
Hermann Göring needs linking at first use Done
he believed Göring to be competent leader of the new German air arm - to be a competent leader Done
German contingent won their neighbours' respect - Germany does not have a boundery with Italy can this be reworded Done
Major Rheital was rumoured to have suffered courts martial, but the investigators dropped the charges - rumoured to be
courts martialed Done
Galland flew his first combat in Spain - Galland flew his first combat mission in Spain Done
he was replaced by the younger Werner Mölders - is the age difference important ? Done
In the Staff post in the RLM section that kind of coordination possible - that kind of coordination was possible Done
Equipped with the Henschel Hs 123, a "biplane Stuka" - do you mean a biplane dive bomber ? Done
On 11 September Adolf Hitler arrived at LG 2 headquarters and had lunch with the staff. Hitler had been on one of his visits to the front line - On 11 September Adolf Hitler arrived at LG 2 headquarters and had lunch with the staff, during one of his visits to the front line Done
If your bringing this is - Galland had to sneak away to fly combat missions using various tricks and ruses - can you supply an example
I don't have one, the source doesn't give any.
Dapi89 (
talk) 17:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)reply
recognised ace (a pilot with five or more aerial victories) needs a cite Done
During these sorties Galland learned tactics which Mölders used - During these sorties Galland learned the tactics which Mölders used Done
Galland gained further experience as a combat leader by relieving Gruppenkommandeur as they went on leave - does not make sense should it be relieving the Gruppenkommandeur (not sure what or who they are) Done
Galland scored his first aerial victories - Galland claimed his first aerial victories Done
These aircraft were of No 87. Squadron RAF, who lost two aircraft. - Both aircraft were from No 87. Squadron RAF Done
link bombers from Nos. 15 and 107 Squadron Done
They landed not far from a German-held airfield and had to push their Bf 109s up a hill to glide down to the airfield of Charleville-Mézières in the valley below - does this mean they landed and got out and pushed them up the hill ? if so how then did they take and glide down Done
Galland expressed a high opinion of RAF pilots from that point on - needs a cite Done
This does not make sense if they were already in the Pas de Calais - From June 1940 on, Galland flew as a Gruppenkommandeur (Group Commander) of III./Jagdgeschwader 26 (JG 26), fighting in the Battle of Britain with Messerschmitt Bf 109 "Emils" from bases in the Pas de Calais. On 19 July 1940, Galland was promoted to Major and JG 26 moved to the Pas de Calais Done
As the battles over the Channel continued, Galland scored victories on 25 July and 28 July, both Spitfires. - Galland shot down a Spitfire on the 25 and 26 July Done
As the battles over the Channel continued, Galland scored victories on 25 July and 28 July, both Spitfires. - needs a cite Done
In the Channel front section duplication of - By the end of 1940 Galland had 57 victories. says the same at the end of the previous section Done
Promoted to Oberstleutnant, he continued to lead JG 26 through 1941 against RAF fighter sweeps across northern Europe.- needs a cite Done
Sgt H Whewell and Sgt R.G.V Barraclough -
Sergeant H Whewell and Sergeant R.G.V Barraclough Done
Wing Commander of the Northolt Polish Wing - this wing must be numbered can it be linked Done
Short sentances - Galland bailed out. As he was falling he tugged at what he thought was his parachute ripcord. - Galland bailed out and tugged at what he thought was his parachute ripcord. Done
Same with "It opened." a two word sentance needs incorporating into the rest of the text Done
A Spitfire of the bomber escort (probably from the Polish No. 308 Squadron RAF) managed to hit Galland's fighter with a 20 mm shell - Galland's fighter was hit by a 20 mm round from one of the bombers fighter escorts. Done
Galland suffered a head wound and landed at base, where he was hospitalised for the second time in a few days. - Wounded in the head he managed to land and was again hospitalised Done
Galland had been "shot up" twice and shot down twice (twice in one day) in the space of four weeks - Galland had been shot up and shot down twice in the space of four days - gets rid of the twice twice twice Done
succeeding renowned pilot - is POV succeeding Werner Mölders who had just died Done
The German warships Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen sailed from their port at Brest, France and through the English Channel, despite the Royal Navy's supremacy at sea. - sailed from Brest France up the English Channel (to where ?), despite the attention of the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force. Done
Some clarification and citation needed tags have been added and I have tightened up the prose some. Done
I will put the article onhold allowing you time to work onit.--
Jim Sweeney (
talk) 09:29, 11 October 2010 (UTC)reply
I think I've done all that was requested and a tad more on top. I thought about adding a picture in the return to Germany section (the aircraft he bought on his 50th). Not sure though.
Dapi89 (
talk) 19:30, 11 October 2010 (UTC)reply
I believe the aces of the Luftwaffe web site is unreliable being a privately run site. Its only being used twice both times backed up by a book reference so I would delete it unless you can provide details of why its reliable.--
Jim Sweeney (
talk) 13:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC) Donereply
refs 3 aand 6 appear to be the same and the year of publication needs completing Done
reference ranges need looking at refs 32 and 33 for example we have Baker 1996, pp. 68—69 with a long dash and Baker 1996, pp. 70-72. with a short one Done
The two Galland books are not secondary sources in connection to himself if used in connection to another matter i.e specifications on an aircraft that would be another matter
Can you clarify: can I not use him to state his personal view on the Bf 109F for example?
Dapi89 (
talk) 15:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Yes but in quotes Done
Some of the images need full names and linked for persons in them Göring and Mölder Done
'Wilhelm-Ferdinand, a 54 victory ace, was shot down on 17 August 1943.' - do we know what happened to his as its cut off rather abruptly Done
In the Pilot training section Weimar Republic could be linked Done
All the pilots, and Adolf - no need for and Adolf as all the pilots accepted the invatation Done
In the into the Luftwaffe section
Hermann Göring needs linking at first use Done
he believed Göring to be competent leader of the new German air arm - to be a competent leader Done
German contingent won their neighbours' respect - Germany does not have a boundery with Italy can this be reworded Done
Major Rheital was rumoured to have suffered courts martial, but the investigators dropped the charges - rumoured to be
courts martialed Done
Galland flew his first combat in Spain - Galland flew his first combat mission in Spain Done
he was replaced by the younger Werner Mölders - is the age difference important ? Done
In the Staff post in the RLM section that kind of coordination possible - that kind of coordination was possible Done
Equipped with the Henschel Hs 123, a "biplane Stuka" - do you mean a biplane dive bomber ? Done
On 11 September Adolf Hitler arrived at LG 2 headquarters and had lunch with the staff. Hitler had been on one of his visits to the front line - On 11 September Adolf Hitler arrived at LG 2 headquarters and had lunch with the staff, during one of his visits to the front line Done
If your bringing this is - Galland had to sneak away to fly combat missions using various tricks and ruses - can you supply an example
I don't have one, the source doesn't give any.
Dapi89 (
talk) 17:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)reply
recognised ace (a pilot with five or more aerial victories) needs a cite Done
During these sorties Galland learned tactics which Mölders used - During these sorties Galland learned the tactics which Mölders used Done
Galland gained further experience as a combat leader by relieving Gruppenkommandeur as they went on leave - does not make sense should it be relieving the Gruppenkommandeur (not sure what or who they are) Done
Galland scored his first aerial victories - Galland claimed his first aerial victories Done
These aircraft were of No 87. Squadron RAF, who lost two aircraft. - Both aircraft were from No 87. Squadron RAF Done
link bombers from Nos. 15 and 107 Squadron Done
They landed not far from a German-held airfield and had to push their Bf 109s up a hill to glide down to the airfield of Charleville-Mézières in the valley below - does this mean they landed and got out and pushed them up the hill ? if so how then did they take and glide down Done
Galland expressed a high opinion of RAF pilots from that point on - needs a cite Done
This does not make sense if they were already in the Pas de Calais - From June 1940 on, Galland flew as a Gruppenkommandeur (Group Commander) of III./Jagdgeschwader 26 (JG 26), fighting in the Battle of Britain with Messerschmitt Bf 109 "Emils" from bases in the Pas de Calais. On 19 July 1940, Galland was promoted to Major and JG 26 moved to the Pas de Calais Done
As the battles over the Channel continued, Galland scored victories on 25 July and 28 July, both Spitfires. - Galland shot down a Spitfire on the 25 and 26 July Done
As the battles over the Channel continued, Galland scored victories on 25 July and 28 July, both Spitfires. - needs a cite Done
In the Channel front section duplication of - By the end of 1940 Galland had 57 victories. says the same at the end of the previous section Done
Promoted to Oberstleutnant, he continued to lead JG 26 through 1941 against RAF fighter sweeps across northern Europe.- needs a cite Done
Sgt H Whewell and Sgt R.G.V Barraclough -
Sergeant H Whewell and Sergeant R.G.V Barraclough Done
Wing Commander of the Northolt Polish Wing - this wing must be numbered can it be linked Done
Short sentances - Galland bailed out. As he was falling he tugged at what he thought was his parachute ripcord. - Galland bailed out and tugged at what he thought was his parachute ripcord. Done
Same with "It opened." a two word sentance needs incorporating into the rest of the text Done
A Spitfire of the bomber escort (probably from the Polish No. 308 Squadron RAF) managed to hit Galland's fighter with a 20 mm shell - Galland's fighter was hit by a 20 mm round from one of the bombers fighter escorts. Done
Galland suffered a head wound and landed at base, where he was hospitalised for the second time in a few days. - Wounded in the head he managed to land and was again hospitalised Done
Galland had been "shot up" twice and shot down twice (twice in one day) in the space of four weeks - Galland had been shot up and shot down twice in the space of four days - gets rid of the twice twice twice Done
succeeding renowned pilot - is POV succeeding Werner Mölders who had just died Done
The German warships Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen sailed from their port at Brest, France and through the English Channel, despite the Royal Navy's supremacy at sea. - sailed from Brest France up the English Channel (to where ?), despite the attention of the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force. Done
Some clarification and citation needed tags have been added and I have tightened up the prose some. Done
I will put the article onhold allowing you time to work onit.--
Jim Sweeney (
talk) 09:29, 11 October 2010 (UTC)reply
I think I've done all that was requested and a tad more on top. I thought about adding a picture in the return to Germany section (the aircraft he bought on his 50th). Not sure though.
Dapi89 (
talk) 19:30, 11 October 2010 (UTC)reply
I believe the aces of the Luftwaffe web site is unreliable being a privately run site. Its only being used twice both times backed up by a book reference so I would delete it unless you can provide details of why its reliable.--
Jim Sweeney (
talk) 13:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC) Donereply