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Several paragraph summaries?
Ok.
A. you CREATED the article on adolescent sexuality.
B. the text in the adolescent sexuality section is IDENTICAL to that of the article.
C. Despite my attempts to fix that and make it into a summary you have REPEATEDLY reverted it.
D. why in the hell would you do all of the above?, as someone in the adolescent sexuality article talk said. "Sounds like a duplication of efforts to me" no offense but you need to set your brainwaves to the tune .
Nateland 20:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
hey guys i removed
Both boys and girls are now "entering puberty at least two years earlier than previous generations. This means they are ready for sex earlier physically, but not emotionally or cognitively."[5]
because it shows up twice in the sexuality paragraph and its just the exact same thing as the first sentence.
Repitition sentence was removed not the original sentance Maverick423 21:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The picture which is supposedly of American high school students...
Well, like another person said, on closer inspection it seems there are like 30, 40, and 50 year old men and women in the background or upper row of desks i should say. (This seems to be more like American COLLEGE students, it's not a retarded class as any 40 year old man I'm pretty sure who was still in high school would be in some form of whatever)
Could someone PLEASE find a different picture? I think i'll take a quick look for some on the CC picture search and perhaps the internet archives lists upon lists of pictures... ok that's all for now,
more to come later
Nateland 22:30, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
ya know what he actually got something here i see bald people and everything here this is not a high school class picture. however i don't know if this means that a new picture is going to have to be found Maverick423 14:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Then you know what?, state it as such! YES!, just mention it in the picture caption. Nateland 21:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
For anyone who wonders, we are referring to this image which is located at commons at time of writing. Jecowa 00:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
The section is in desperate need of revising. I have placed proposals on the talk page for the main article on adolescent sexuality for how to revise, although I think that the adolescent sexuality section should be kept as a summary which it currently is not... It's highly biased as well.
I've already moved on pretty much from trying to edit and improve this particular article to the main one on adolescent sexuality so maybe some other people can step up to plate?
Nateland 22:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
This section reads like nothing more than a collection of vaguely pov quotations. It's unencyclopedic. Manderr 02:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Especially the section on teen sexuality- sounds like someone had a bad relationship at 15 and decided to make up a load of rubbish. This whole "hook-up" thing is nonsense, and teenagers can be just as emotionally developed as physically developed, although some may not be. I changed it to make it a bit more subtle a while ago (but not necessarily emotionally, for instance) but the edits were removed; this information is completely biased and incorrect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.67.162.83 ( talk) 23:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC).
Well, Illuminato was the user who created this section. And his record of using reverts to keep favored POV inside of articles. Then creating spin-off articles to try and ward away complaints or when his favored materials are in danger of being removed and kept removed due to consensus by more than 3 wikipedians. As well as using varying tactics to try and validate his actions. Makes me think he is a simple POV-pusher who, even if he DID have bad experiences shouldn't act this way on such a simple website.
Also, the main article on adolescent sexuality has been updated and thus the current section should be updated. The section itself seems irrelevant to the article on adolescents worldwide as a whole and I say it should be removed and a link at the top of the article saying 'for the article on adolescent sexuality see adolescent sexuality. There is strong opposition to the current and the exact same data has been literally copy & pasted into numerous other spin-off articles.
I'm removing this section. And I hope i'll get support when doing it. Nateland 20:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I removed all the external links apart from one which I nearly removed. This is because all of the others linked to teen help articles and the such, which isn't the kind of website this article should be linking to. Cream147 Shout at me for doing wrong 06:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
"All teens have sexual lives". That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I myself am 13 years old and I have no sex life at all, real or fictional (not that I want one). Why did they invent such a stupid thing? There are many teenagers like me around the world, and in my opinion, one of the writer's next statements "Sexual life is important for teenagers" is also incorrect as we see that many of the teenagers with sexual lives are rude, irresponsible and very noisy, a trait which most of the teenagers without sexual lives do not possess. You may think I am inventing this, but I have my sources as I have moved a school in the last year and I've been researching the behaviour of the 2000 (approximately) students in my school and of the 3500 (approximately) in my old school by doing surveys. I have finished explaining my point.
87.69.217.141 14:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
All teens DO have sexual lives, but some develop them later than others. 81.79.29.194 22:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Comment: Perhaps the meaning of "sexual life" ought to be clarified. Obviously, not all people have sex as adolescents, but all teenagers are involved in some aspect of sexuality. What does this encompass? -- Strangerer ( Talk) 23:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I dont Philip1992 ( talk) 14:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)Philip1992
Directed at Illuminato.
When I edited the section on adolescent sexuality I removed the phrases by ponton lynn saying sexuality is a vital part of teenagers lives. (Sexuality is important to people, but not neccesarily vital, and the phrase seems out of place. Especially considering ponton lynn's views are U.S. centric).
And the phrase saying adolescents might not be psychologically mature enough to have sex and could face emotional distress. I'll need clarification. What kind of emotional distress?, how can willingly having sex make you emotionally unstable?. I thought if people had a sexual drive strong enough to make them initiate sex they'd be emotionally capable of withstanding the pleasures sex can bring them.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I need some clarifying. Nateland 03:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Illuminato, you've critisized me and claimed immaturity on my behalf because of minor typos instead of fixing them. I simply fixed a few typos on your behalf as a courtesy. If you don't want me to show you courtesy then fine. Say so and I won't. Also, stating that adolescents aren't mature enough to have sex is not a small or even proven statement. The burden of proof is on you. And in case you didn't realize, back a couple centuries ago people went out into the world around age 14 and had children at even younger ages almost regularly in some parts due to much shorter average human lifespans...
Yet, despite young sex the world continued on. Nowadays with modern technology people live longer and thus it seems the expectation to have sex later has popped up or just simply increased due to this fact. Trust me, if your statement is true then about 200-1,000 years ago the world would have been frought with emotionally devastated people. Now which is truer?.
I'm not saying life back then was necessarily fun for the average person. But it was filled with much more evil then today. War, death, rape. Yet even young children saw and normally lived through it if disease didn't get them first. And back then it seems no one thought twice about having children as soon as possible or as soon as necessary.
I'm reverting your edits User:Illuminato. And if I have to, I'll go all the way up the ladder to get you blocked. P.S. the burden of proof is on you. Did you read all of the above?. Or did you just choose to 'conveniently' ignore parts of what I said?. 20:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Illuminato, maybe that statement is fact. But its placement in that section gives a tone saying adolescent sex is going to harm adolescents psychologically in the least. And saying it's particularly of concern to people. WHAT people?, people in the united states?. Sure, there's a big enough culture war over adolescent sex in the US. Worldwide?, I don't think so.
Because of this placement of your facts it violates WP:NPOV. I'm reverting your edits for neutrality. They belong in the part on culture or social aspects of adolescence. NOT in a section where they make sexual activity look inherently damaging. OH yes, Illuminato. Can you quit going on about spelling and punctuation?, people make mistakes. THat doesn't mean their views on a subject are meaningless.... Nateland 15:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I just edited the Adolescence Psychology section and cited all the references, I also made the section neutral, earlier it was just referring to the Adolescent Psychological process as being mostly negative. I have now added factually verified information and have removed the phrases which didn't really mean anything and/or were just misleading and most of all, were unsourced.
Do not revert the changes, you could visit the references to verify all the information I have added. Correctus 14:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Added a new picture to the article of a few teenagers in Nicaragua, the image itself is public domain and was found in the "Boys" category of Wikipedia's public domain images. There are no old people in the picture so I dont think there would be any more problems regarding the introductory image. If you want to comment on my change please do so! Correctus 15:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Sexual orientation occurs before the teenage years. The article makes it sound as if this is a new thing as kids enter adolescence. Some sexual activity may be at an increase at that time, but attraction to the opposite sex and appreciation of beauty can begin at a much younger age. Brian Pearson 13:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Um...am I the only one that has a problem with this?
These statements are RIDDLED with negative connotations. Re-write these statements to reflect the true, positive, forwarding thinking viewpoints of the Africans, and the enslaved Africans in america, towards their young men entering the world.
"African boys "also" have a coming of age ceremony in which, upon reaching adolescence, the males state a promise to "never" do anything to "shame" their families or their village. This was also continued among African-American slaves in the early days of slavery before the practice was "outlawed". "
The stealthily use of wordplay in these wretched statements above skew the reality, and manipulate the reference point of progress for Africans.
No where in this paragraph are these negatives words and perspectives used to describe other groups' celebrations of the rites of passage of their young. Why are they being used to describe the Africans' practices and traditions all of a sudden?
"also" - communicating some type of after thought regarding the African tradition, perhaps, Wikipedia?
"never" - wow!
"shame" - wow!
"outlawed" - wow!
Tell the TRUTH Wikipedia.
Africans want their boys to UPHOLD, and represent the families and villages WELL, as they embarked on life. The promise was NOT to shame, but to UPLIFT the villages and reinforce a positive reputation around the world.
This was the same belief and practice as the enslaved Africans, and this noble practice was unfortunately outlawed by racists whites groups who dominated the society at the time.
CHANGE THESE STATEMENTS TO REFLECT THE SENTIMENT OF THE AFRICAN PEOPLES.
WIKIPEDIA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A REFERENCE TOOL.
jlh629
03:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
In the United States, sexual activity among adolescents is sometimes associated with a number of risks as well as stigmas and taboos. I don’t really see the point of this sentence. The risks of pregnancy and STIs are not specific to the U.S. (and neither, arguably, are any emotional risks). Many countries have stigmas against sexual behavior. In some cases the stigmas are much more stringent than the U.S. - see honor killing for example. I would suggest removing this sentence altogether since it doesn't add any information. Fionah 11:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I also removed the following sentence from the Puberty subsection: Yet others propose a climatological connection and attribute the decreased average age of menarche in part to climate change or global warming. This theory wasn't referenced and it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the main puberty or menarche articles. Also, it seems a bit unlikely even just looking at correlations. The trend for earlier puberty seems to have begun in the mid-20th century (when global warming slowed down) and slowed towards the end of the 20th/beginning of the 21st century (when global warming accelerated). There's no evidence that age of puberty has dropped fastest in areas most affected by warming. Fionah 08:39, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
This article contains a picture with a caption which reads A North American teenager. This picture, often replaced, is always biased and stereotypical. It asserts the American stereotype about teenagers as truth, and in this violates neutral point of view. To restore neutral point of view, I suggest we do one of those things:
Cyb3rdemon 00:58, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't mean to disagree with this topic, but just a shout out to "mynameislegion"-- Thanks alot man for deleting my picture on the "teenager" site.. My hammick pic had been there for four weeks, I had told my friends and family to take a look, then you have to add those crappy pics in there getting all of the mods riled up. Now that's not to diss you cyber, I understand you have a job to do and made that edit for the better of the wikipedia community. 71.145.134.97 06:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, I have made my dicision. As king of the users I would like to inform that Puberty be merged into Adolescense. It dosen't make sense with seperate articles because they tell the same thing. We can't have general information and then foreign iformation with a headline text about the form of puberty. I am a bit concerned and angry that you can't even merge and article properly. That just won't do! Obey or you are blocked. I become a tyrant easily. The Mingler 02:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Uhm, the photo used now ('An American 14 year old Adolescent who needs a shave')... It makes me laugh (which doesn't realy should mean that it is a bad thing), but I am wondering a few things. Is the photo that is used, a photo from someone who gave his permission to include this photo in Wikipedia/ this article? And the second thing that I am wondering about: isn't it subjective, to say that this adolescent 'needs a shave'? -- Robster1983 17:53, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's really that controversial. Anyone agree?-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 16:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Surely this is not a controversial topic anymore because there is no longer much argument on the talk pages etc rather than because the topic itself is without controversies. Is that what is being discussed? I would say there is no need for the controversy template at the moment as the article is stable and its content seems to be agreed. CaptinJohn 12:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey! R any o' u teens who enjoy their childhood n dont really look forward toward adulthood. I kno i am. I wish that once i turn 17, i stay 17. I love bein' a kid. N i kno that their r somma u who r teens that rather b known as children than adults. If so, put it on my talk page. -- Mr. Comedian 20:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
oiolk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.206.222.51 ( talk) 11:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
adolescents r kids. they big kidz. a lil' kid unda 12 n big kid ova 12. IT TICKS ME OFF when people say i aint no kid. i still a kid. A TEEN IS A KID. a kid is any1 unda 21. -- Mr. Comedian 19:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm fine with this article even though I totally disagree with it. Everyone hates me around the stages of life articles. I don't even care about them anymore. I'm just a kid and everyone wishes I was dead now. You guys are mean. -- Mr. Comedian 12:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I like tlking bout dis..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.245.140 ( talk) 01:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I think that phrase should be reworded a bit. "Join" is a better example.
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![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 7 |
Several paragraph summaries?
Ok.
A. you CREATED the article on adolescent sexuality.
B. the text in the adolescent sexuality section is IDENTICAL to that of the article.
C. Despite my attempts to fix that and make it into a summary you have REPEATEDLY reverted it.
D. why in the hell would you do all of the above?, as someone in the adolescent sexuality article talk said. "Sounds like a duplication of efforts to me" no offense but you need to set your brainwaves to the tune .
Nateland 20:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
hey guys i removed
Both boys and girls are now "entering puberty at least two years earlier than previous generations. This means they are ready for sex earlier physically, but not emotionally or cognitively."[5]
because it shows up twice in the sexuality paragraph and its just the exact same thing as the first sentence.
Repitition sentence was removed not the original sentance Maverick423 21:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The picture which is supposedly of American high school students...
Well, like another person said, on closer inspection it seems there are like 30, 40, and 50 year old men and women in the background or upper row of desks i should say. (This seems to be more like American COLLEGE students, it's not a retarded class as any 40 year old man I'm pretty sure who was still in high school would be in some form of whatever)
Could someone PLEASE find a different picture? I think i'll take a quick look for some on the CC picture search and perhaps the internet archives lists upon lists of pictures... ok that's all for now,
more to come later
Nateland 22:30, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
ya know what he actually got something here i see bald people and everything here this is not a high school class picture. however i don't know if this means that a new picture is going to have to be found Maverick423 14:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Then you know what?, state it as such! YES!, just mention it in the picture caption. Nateland 21:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
For anyone who wonders, we are referring to this image which is located at commons at time of writing. Jecowa 00:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
The section is in desperate need of revising. I have placed proposals on the talk page for the main article on adolescent sexuality for how to revise, although I think that the adolescent sexuality section should be kept as a summary which it currently is not... It's highly biased as well.
I've already moved on pretty much from trying to edit and improve this particular article to the main one on adolescent sexuality so maybe some other people can step up to plate?
Nateland 22:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
This section reads like nothing more than a collection of vaguely pov quotations. It's unencyclopedic. Manderr 02:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Especially the section on teen sexuality- sounds like someone had a bad relationship at 15 and decided to make up a load of rubbish. This whole "hook-up" thing is nonsense, and teenagers can be just as emotionally developed as physically developed, although some may not be. I changed it to make it a bit more subtle a while ago (but not necessarily emotionally, for instance) but the edits were removed; this information is completely biased and incorrect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.67.162.83 ( talk) 23:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC).
Well, Illuminato was the user who created this section. And his record of using reverts to keep favored POV inside of articles. Then creating spin-off articles to try and ward away complaints or when his favored materials are in danger of being removed and kept removed due to consensus by more than 3 wikipedians. As well as using varying tactics to try and validate his actions. Makes me think he is a simple POV-pusher who, even if he DID have bad experiences shouldn't act this way on such a simple website.
Also, the main article on adolescent sexuality has been updated and thus the current section should be updated. The section itself seems irrelevant to the article on adolescents worldwide as a whole and I say it should be removed and a link at the top of the article saying 'for the article on adolescent sexuality see adolescent sexuality. There is strong opposition to the current and the exact same data has been literally copy & pasted into numerous other spin-off articles.
I'm removing this section. And I hope i'll get support when doing it. Nateland 20:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I removed all the external links apart from one which I nearly removed. This is because all of the others linked to teen help articles and the such, which isn't the kind of website this article should be linking to. Cream147 Shout at me for doing wrong 06:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
"All teens have sexual lives". That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I myself am 13 years old and I have no sex life at all, real or fictional (not that I want one). Why did they invent such a stupid thing? There are many teenagers like me around the world, and in my opinion, one of the writer's next statements "Sexual life is important for teenagers" is also incorrect as we see that many of the teenagers with sexual lives are rude, irresponsible and very noisy, a trait which most of the teenagers without sexual lives do not possess. You may think I am inventing this, but I have my sources as I have moved a school in the last year and I've been researching the behaviour of the 2000 (approximately) students in my school and of the 3500 (approximately) in my old school by doing surveys. I have finished explaining my point.
87.69.217.141 14:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
All teens DO have sexual lives, but some develop them later than others. 81.79.29.194 22:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Comment: Perhaps the meaning of "sexual life" ought to be clarified. Obviously, not all people have sex as adolescents, but all teenagers are involved in some aspect of sexuality. What does this encompass? -- Strangerer ( Talk) 23:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I dont Philip1992 ( talk) 14:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)Philip1992
Directed at Illuminato.
When I edited the section on adolescent sexuality I removed the phrases by ponton lynn saying sexuality is a vital part of teenagers lives. (Sexuality is important to people, but not neccesarily vital, and the phrase seems out of place. Especially considering ponton lynn's views are U.S. centric).
And the phrase saying adolescents might not be psychologically mature enough to have sex and could face emotional distress. I'll need clarification. What kind of emotional distress?, how can willingly having sex make you emotionally unstable?. I thought if people had a sexual drive strong enough to make them initiate sex they'd be emotionally capable of withstanding the pleasures sex can bring them.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I need some clarifying. Nateland 03:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Illuminato, you've critisized me and claimed immaturity on my behalf because of minor typos instead of fixing them. I simply fixed a few typos on your behalf as a courtesy. If you don't want me to show you courtesy then fine. Say so and I won't. Also, stating that adolescents aren't mature enough to have sex is not a small or even proven statement. The burden of proof is on you. And in case you didn't realize, back a couple centuries ago people went out into the world around age 14 and had children at even younger ages almost regularly in some parts due to much shorter average human lifespans...
Yet, despite young sex the world continued on. Nowadays with modern technology people live longer and thus it seems the expectation to have sex later has popped up or just simply increased due to this fact. Trust me, if your statement is true then about 200-1,000 years ago the world would have been frought with emotionally devastated people. Now which is truer?.
I'm not saying life back then was necessarily fun for the average person. But it was filled with much more evil then today. War, death, rape. Yet even young children saw and normally lived through it if disease didn't get them first. And back then it seems no one thought twice about having children as soon as possible or as soon as necessary.
I'm reverting your edits User:Illuminato. And if I have to, I'll go all the way up the ladder to get you blocked. P.S. the burden of proof is on you. Did you read all of the above?. Or did you just choose to 'conveniently' ignore parts of what I said?. 20:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Illuminato, maybe that statement is fact. But its placement in that section gives a tone saying adolescent sex is going to harm adolescents psychologically in the least. And saying it's particularly of concern to people. WHAT people?, people in the united states?. Sure, there's a big enough culture war over adolescent sex in the US. Worldwide?, I don't think so.
Because of this placement of your facts it violates WP:NPOV. I'm reverting your edits for neutrality. They belong in the part on culture or social aspects of adolescence. NOT in a section where they make sexual activity look inherently damaging. OH yes, Illuminato. Can you quit going on about spelling and punctuation?, people make mistakes. THat doesn't mean their views on a subject are meaningless.... Nateland 15:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I just edited the Adolescence Psychology section and cited all the references, I also made the section neutral, earlier it was just referring to the Adolescent Psychological process as being mostly negative. I have now added factually verified information and have removed the phrases which didn't really mean anything and/or were just misleading and most of all, were unsourced.
Do not revert the changes, you could visit the references to verify all the information I have added. Correctus 14:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Added a new picture to the article of a few teenagers in Nicaragua, the image itself is public domain and was found in the "Boys" category of Wikipedia's public domain images. There are no old people in the picture so I dont think there would be any more problems regarding the introductory image. If you want to comment on my change please do so! Correctus 15:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Sexual orientation occurs before the teenage years. The article makes it sound as if this is a new thing as kids enter adolescence. Some sexual activity may be at an increase at that time, but attraction to the opposite sex and appreciation of beauty can begin at a much younger age. Brian Pearson 13:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Um...am I the only one that has a problem with this?
These statements are RIDDLED with negative connotations. Re-write these statements to reflect the true, positive, forwarding thinking viewpoints of the Africans, and the enslaved Africans in america, towards their young men entering the world.
"African boys "also" have a coming of age ceremony in which, upon reaching adolescence, the males state a promise to "never" do anything to "shame" their families or their village. This was also continued among African-American slaves in the early days of slavery before the practice was "outlawed". "
The stealthily use of wordplay in these wretched statements above skew the reality, and manipulate the reference point of progress for Africans.
No where in this paragraph are these negatives words and perspectives used to describe other groups' celebrations of the rites of passage of their young. Why are they being used to describe the Africans' practices and traditions all of a sudden?
"also" - communicating some type of after thought regarding the African tradition, perhaps, Wikipedia?
"never" - wow!
"shame" - wow!
"outlawed" - wow!
Tell the TRUTH Wikipedia.
Africans want their boys to UPHOLD, and represent the families and villages WELL, as they embarked on life. The promise was NOT to shame, but to UPLIFT the villages and reinforce a positive reputation around the world.
This was the same belief and practice as the enslaved Africans, and this noble practice was unfortunately outlawed by racists whites groups who dominated the society at the time.
CHANGE THESE STATEMENTS TO REFLECT THE SENTIMENT OF THE AFRICAN PEOPLES.
WIKIPEDIA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A REFERENCE TOOL.
jlh629
03:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
In the United States, sexual activity among adolescents is sometimes associated with a number of risks as well as stigmas and taboos. I don’t really see the point of this sentence. The risks of pregnancy and STIs are not specific to the U.S. (and neither, arguably, are any emotional risks). Many countries have stigmas against sexual behavior. In some cases the stigmas are much more stringent than the U.S. - see honor killing for example. I would suggest removing this sentence altogether since it doesn't add any information. Fionah 11:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I also removed the following sentence from the Puberty subsection: Yet others propose a climatological connection and attribute the decreased average age of menarche in part to climate change or global warming. This theory wasn't referenced and it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the main puberty or menarche articles. Also, it seems a bit unlikely even just looking at correlations. The trend for earlier puberty seems to have begun in the mid-20th century (when global warming slowed down) and slowed towards the end of the 20th/beginning of the 21st century (when global warming accelerated). There's no evidence that age of puberty has dropped fastest in areas most affected by warming. Fionah 08:39, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
This article contains a picture with a caption which reads A North American teenager. This picture, often replaced, is always biased and stereotypical. It asserts the American stereotype about teenagers as truth, and in this violates neutral point of view. To restore neutral point of view, I suggest we do one of those things:
Cyb3rdemon 00:58, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't mean to disagree with this topic, but just a shout out to "mynameislegion"-- Thanks alot man for deleting my picture on the "teenager" site.. My hammick pic had been there for four weeks, I had told my friends and family to take a look, then you have to add those crappy pics in there getting all of the mods riled up. Now that's not to diss you cyber, I understand you have a job to do and made that edit for the better of the wikipedia community. 71.145.134.97 06:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, I have made my dicision. As king of the users I would like to inform that Puberty be merged into Adolescense. It dosen't make sense with seperate articles because they tell the same thing. We can't have general information and then foreign iformation with a headline text about the form of puberty. I am a bit concerned and angry that you can't even merge and article properly. That just won't do! Obey or you are blocked. I become a tyrant easily. The Mingler 02:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Uhm, the photo used now ('An American 14 year old Adolescent who needs a shave')... It makes me laugh (which doesn't realy should mean that it is a bad thing), but I am wondering a few things. Is the photo that is used, a photo from someone who gave his permission to include this photo in Wikipedia/ this article? And the second thing that I am wondering about: isn't it subjective, to say that this adolescent 'needs a shave'? -- Robster1983 17:53, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's really that controversial. Anyone agree?-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 16:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Surely this is not a controversial topic anymore because there is no longer much argument on the talk pages etc rather than because the topic itself is without controversies. Is that what is being discussed? I would say there is no need for the controversy template at the moment as the article is stable and its content seems to be agreed. CaptinJohn 12:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey! R any o' u teens who enjoy their childhood n dont really look forward toward adulthood. I kno i am. I wish that once i turn 17, i stay 17. I love bein' a kid. N i kno that their r somma u who r teens that rather b known as children than adults. If so, put it on my talk page. -- Mr. Comedian 20:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
oiolk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.206.222.51 ( talk) 11:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
adolescents r kids. they big kidz. a lil' kid unda 12 n big kid ova 12. IT TICKS ME OFF when people say i aint no kid. i still a kid. A TEEN IS A KID. a kid is any1 unda 21. -- Mr. Comedian 19:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm fine with this article even though I totally disagree with it. Everyone hates me around the stages of life articles. I don't even care about them anymore. I'm just a kid and everyone wishes I was dead now. You guys are mean. -- Mr. Comedian 12:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I like tlking bout dis..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.245.140 ( talk) 01:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I think that phrase should be reworded a bit. "Join" is a better example.
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