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The screenshot used seems unprofessional. Perhaps a more neutral example would be more appropriate?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.68.97.67 ( talk) 03:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
"Because CS2 has code tightly integrated with the PPC architecture and hence not natively compatible with the Intel processors used in Macs starting from 2006, porting these products is a huge endeavor."
What? There have been Windows/X86 versions of InDesign since 1.5 or earlier.
Clearly, the original comment refers to the need to convert the Macintosh code.
There seems to be redundancy between this and InDesign.
Merged. -Peter
I know "Wikipedia is not a link farm," but I thought the recent pruning of external links went quite a bit too far. A lot of those seemed pretty useful. Do others agree? the pruning - Thomas —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tphinney ( talk • contribs).
Is there a citation for "This decision has upset many Intel Mac early-adoptors, especially since Adobe initially announced it would be first with a complete line of Universal Binary products?" I can't find anything about any announcement or verification of either of these claims after a g-search. = Sjledet 11:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
This article is way too brief, for such a big complicated important program.-- 69.87.201.217 00:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Many readers will be coming to this article for advice about accessing InDesign data files. Can any versions of ID create any native internal-format data files that can be read by any other programs? If so, please give complete details, so that people without ID can have some clue about how to access such files.-- 69.87.193.53 22:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
InDesign can export PDF documents, but I'm not aware of any other software (Quark perhaps) that can read the native format... Average users will not find too many .indd files floating around because they tend to just be used in design and printing. Crocadillion 04:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I just changed the screenshot to the lastest vesion (CS3 running in OSX), hope no one minds... NeoRicen 14:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Couldn't older screen shots exist in the article in the section that talks about versions (presuming there is such a section)? It could be argued that the images are as helpful as the text in this kind of situation. Also as a Mac user, I find it novel and interesting to see Adobe software on windows... Crocadillion 04:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
What is with the current screenshot? It looks absolutely shocking with the "Wikipedia Rocks!" scrawled across it. Also, it's a screenshot of the Windows version, not exactly representative of the average userbase of InDesign. 112.213.135.101 ( talk) 12:26, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I've just updated the screenshot to CS5 on Mac OS X. No silly scrawling in this one! AussieNickuss ( talk) 13:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Screenshot updated = Adobe InDesign CS5 running on Windows 7 x86 = with Wikipedia Design -- Umar1996 ( talk) 14:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone considered adding a table showing screenshots of the history of versions and significant changes, sort of like you get in some computer magazines? List_of_Ford_Taurus_models was the example I was using. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.45.219.185 ( talk) 11:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm aware of the policy "What Wikipedia is not", but this is intended to be a summary, nothing else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.45.219.185 ( talk) 11:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
My name is Ferry Roland , What About The Indesign Features? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolandhelper ( talk • contribs) 03:05, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Why is the entire article about the Middle Eastern versions? -- 128.151.80.182 ( talk) 17:25, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
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Scriptability: InDesign CS2 and CS3 provide ways to automate layout, typography, etc. (basically most features of the menus and dialogs) using Javascript, ActionScript and VBScript. For information, visit the Adobe website forums and search for InDesign Scripting. XML import and export: XML can be mapped to paragraph and character styles in Adobe InDesign CS2 and CS3 while the XML is imported. Multiple flows of XML content may be used in a single document. XML can be created within Indesign by mapping prgraph or character styles to XML elements. However, the XML authoring capabilities of InDesign are quite limited, because it does not provide an interface that shows the available elements at an insertion point in the text, rather, the entire list of elements in the DTD are displayed. Validation of XML content inside InDesign text flows requires that the user understand the DTD in depth to interpret the correct manner to respond to InDesign's validation error output display. (InDesign does not appear to support XML schema, only DTD (Document Type Definition) in its current feature set. Since Adobe FrameMaker 8 now supports schema, perhaps Adobe will provide schema support in InDesign also in the future.)
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InDesign CS5.5 was released between 5 and 6
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The tone and content of this article is amateurish and tacky. Why lead with all this crap about companies rebuffing offers and codenames and inconsequential minutia? Wiki sucks 2603:6011:402:A26A:A8AD:8F70:C463:5CFB ( talk) 14:52, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
I worked on the InDesign Developer Technologies team at Adobe. This:
"However, the Postscript printer driver for InDesign 1.0 was an external app that tended to acquire frequent corruption problems, requiring periodic reinstallation. Copies of InDesign 1.5 were usually given away when it was found that a host of bugs had to be corrected. By InDesign 2.0, the temperamental printer driver was embedded in the main software. The 'kernel' architecture was never mentioned again."
...is completely wrong, as far as I know. The PostScript printer driver was never a separate application, and InDesign's plug-in architecture has been mentioned frequently (by me, in my books, if nothing else) since then. I do not know of any large-scale giveaway of InDesign 1.5.
The implementation of InDesign's transparency features and font subsetting did cause problems--both because of bugs and also due to the large number of obsolescent PostScript interpreters in use in printers at the time. Adobe completely misunderstood the market adoption of printers/workflows capable of supporting the current PDF features of the time.
The InDesign team designed InDesign's architecture--a plug-in manager and hundreds of plug-ins--to be easily updated, customized, and enhanced at any time. This scheme fell afoul of Adobe's accounting practices relative to SEC regulations (this has to do with what does and does not constitute a "major release" of a software product). The modular architecture remains superior to the monolithic architecture of most large software products, in my opinion.
--Olav Martin Kvern 2601:602:8180:ABD0:A536:D368:EEC5:26B3 ( talk) 00:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
There is too much information on the top of this article, so it is difficult for readers to get the essential knowledge. And also, a lot of versions of this software are posted on the article, which may include too much details and make it seems like a development log. Maybe we should removing these excessive details and relocating some paragraphs on the top of the article as well to make it looks more concise.
Add a section of “Adobe InDesign release history” to move the relationship between the “Adobe PageMaker” and “Adobe InDesign”, also more details about how Adobe declined Quark’s offer to buy their company. As to its new competitor “Shuksan”, maybe it is not that relevant to our topic.
The third paragraph of the article is talking about its document format. From my perspective, maybe there is too much information to introduce every version of “Adobe InDesign”, always adding some new technology to make their software better. Therefore, I reckon to delete some of these details or organize them into a graph to make it clear and concise, then add them into a new section “each version’s new function”, if you do believe they are essential information for this software.
What’s more, about the last paragraph of this article, introduce how “Adobe InDesign” is bundling with other software of Adobe in Mac OS X. For me, this part introduces some details that is somehow negative statement about this software. And again, it contains too much information about versions released in different years of this software. Maybe they can be put into “see also” section, just the same as “Criticism of Creative Cloud”.
The section of “Internationalization and localization” only has the InDesign Middle Eastern editions and there is too much useless information about this version in this article. So it will be better if this section could be spun off to another stub. 303-zhan ( talk) 10:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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The screenshot used seems unprofessional. Perhaps a more neutral example would be more appropriate?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.68.97.67 ( talk) 03:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
"Because CS2 has code tightly integrated with the PPC architecture and hence not natively compatible with the Intel processors used in Macs starting from 2006, porting these products is a huge endeavor."
What? There have been Windows/X86 versions of InDesign since 1.5 or earlier.
Clearly, the original comment refers to the need to convert the Macintosh code.
There seems to be redundancy between this and InDesign.
Merged. -Peter
I know "Wikipedia is not a link farm," but I thought the recent pruning of external links went quite a bit too far. A lot of those seemed pretty useful. Do others agree? the pruning - Thomas —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tphinney ( talk • contribs).
Is there a citation for "This decision has upset many Intel Mac early-adoptors, especially since Adobe initially announced it would be first with a complete line of Universal Binary products?" I can't find anything about any announcement or verification of either of these claims after a g-search. = Sjledet 11:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
This article is way too brief, for such a big complicated important program.-- 69.87.201.217 00:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Many readers will be coming to this article for advice about accessing InDesign data files. Can any versions of ID create any native internal-format data files that can be read by any other programs? If so, please give complete details, so that people without ID can have some clue about how to access such files.-- 69.87.193.53 22:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
InDesign can export PDF documents, but I'm not aware of any other software (Quark perhaps) that can read the native format... Average users will not find too many .indd files floating around because they tend to just be used in design and printing. Crocadillion 04:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I just changed the screenshot to the lastest vesion (CS3 running in OSX), hope no one minds... NeoRicen 14:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Couldn't older screen shots exist in the article in the section that talks about versions (presuming there is such a section)? It could be argued that the images are as helpful as the text in this kind of situation. Also as a Mac user, I find it novel and interesting to see Adobe software on windows... Crocadillion 04:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
What is with the current screenshot? It looks absolutely shocking with the "Wikipedia Rocks!" scrawled across it. Also, it's a screenshot of the Windows version, not exactly representative of the average userbase of InDesign. 112.213.135.101 ( talk) 12:26, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I've just updated the screenshot to CS5 on Mac OS X. No silly scrawling in this one! AussieNickuss ( talk) 13:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Screenshot updated = Adobe InDesign CS5 running on Windows 7 x86 = with Wikipedia Design -- Umar1996 ( talk) 14:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone considered adding a table showing screenshots of the history of versions and significant changes, sort of like you get in some computer magazines? List_of_Ford_Taurus_models was the example I was using. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.45.219.185 ( talk) 11:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm aware of the policy "What Wikipedia is not", but this is intended to be a summary, nothing else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.45.219.185 ( talk) 11:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
My name is Ferry Roland , What About The Indesign Features? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolandhelper ( talk • contribs) 03:05, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Why is the entire article about the Middle Eastern versions? -- 128.151.80.182 ( talk) 17:25, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Adobe InDesign/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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==Untitled==
Scriptability: InDesign CS2 and CS3 provide ways to automate layout, typography, etc. (basically most features of the menus and dialogs) using Javascript, ActionScript and VBScript. For information, visit the Adobe website forums and search for InDesign Scripting. XML import and export: XML can be mapped to paragraph and character styles in Adobe InDesign CS2 and CS3 while the XML is imported. Multiple flows of XML content may be used in a single document. XML can be created within Indesign by mapping prgraph or character styles to XML elements. However, the XML authoring capabilities of InDesign are quite limited, because it does not provide an interface that shows the available elements at an insertion point in the text, rather, the entire list of elements in the DTD are displayed. Validation of XML content inside InDesign text flows requires that the user understand the DTD in depth to interpret the correct manner to respond to InDesign's validation error output display. (InDesign does not appear to support XML schema, only DTD (Document Type Definition) in its current feature set. Since Adobe FrameMaker 8 now supports schema, perhaps Adobe will provide schema support in InDesign also in the future.)
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InDesign CS5.5 was released between 5 and 6
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 27 January 2022 and 13 May 2022. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Mrandall06 (
article contribs).
The tone and content of this article is amateurish and tacky. Why lead with all this crap about companies rebuffing offers and codenames and inconsequential minutia? Wiki sucks 2603:6011:402:A26A:A8AD:8F70:C463:5CFB ( talk) 14:52, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
I worked on the InDesign Developer Technologies team at Adobe. This:
"However, the Postscript printer driver for InDesign 1.0 was an external app that tended to acquire frequent corruption problems, requiring periodic reinstallation. Copies of InDesign 1.5 were usually given away when it was found that a host of bugs had to be corrected. By InDesign 2.0, the temperamental printer driver was embedded in the main software. The 'kernel' architecture was never mentioned again."
...is completely wrong, as far as I know. The PostScript printer driver was never a separate application, and InDesign's plug-in architecture has been mentioned frequently (by me, in my books, if nothing else) since then. I do not know of any large-scale giveaway of InDesign 1.5.
The implementation of InDesign's transparency features and font subsetting did cause problems--both because of bugs and also due to the large number of obsolescent PostScript interpreters in use in printers at the time. Adobe completely misunderstood the market adoption of printers/workflows capable of supporting the current PDF features of the time.
The InDesign team designed InDesign's architecture--a plug-in manager and hundreds of plug-ins--to be easily updated, customized, and enhanced at any time. This scheme fell afoul of Adobe's accounting practices relative to SEC regulations (this has to do with what does and does not constitute a "major release" of a software product). The modular architecture remains superior to the monolithic architecture of most large software products, in my opinion.
--Olav Martin Kvern 2601:602:8180:ABD0:A536:D368:EEC5:26B3 ( talk) 00:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
There is too much information on the top of this article, so it is difficult for readers to get the essential knowledge. And also, a lot of versions of this software are posted on the article, which may include too much details and make it seems like a development log. Maybe we should removing these excessive details and relocating some paragraphs on the top of the article as well to make it looks more concise.
Add a section of “Adobe InDesign release history” to move the relationship between the “Adobe PageMaker” and “Adobe InDesign”, also more details about how Adobe declined Quark’s offer to buy their company. As to its new competitor “Shuksan”, maybe it is not that relevant to our topic.
The third paragraph of the article is talking about its document format. From my perspective, maybe there is too much information to introduce every version of “Adobe InDesign”, always adding some new technology to make their software better. Therefore, I reckon to delete some of these details or organize them into a graph to make it clear and concise, then add them into a new section “each version’s new function”, if you do believe they are essential information for this software.
What’s more, about the last paragraph of this article, introduce how “Adobe InDesign” is bundling with other software of Adobe in Mac OS X. For me, this part introduces some details that is somehow negative statement about this software. And again, it contains too much information about versions released in different years of this software. Maybe they can be put into “see also” section, just the same as “Criticism of Creative Cloud”.
The section of “Internationalization and localization” only has the InDesign Middle Eastern editions and there is too much useless information about this version in this article. So it will be better if this section could be spun off to another stub. 303-zhan ( talk) 10:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)