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The use of north vs south is currently inaccurate; currently it is used to describe Arabs, but I think that Arabia would be more appropriate. Jayvdb 03:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Southern Arabs (Qahtani) moved to the North from 3rd cenury AD. and in many times they became the northern most of the Arabs. (Ghassanids, Lakhmids) it remained that way until Islam
The origin of which word was derived from the other can go either way-- Skatewalk 04:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Whoever said that Yemen means south is right but not the whole Yemen is the south the name of Yemen came from South Yemeni kingdom called Yamnat which is in the south of Yemen its not about being in the south of Arabia or north of Arabia, Yamnat is the origin of the Yemen name and there were lots of tribes there like Himyarites Sabaeans and others SharabSalam ( talk) 15:23, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I'll be frank, North/South dichotomy is easier for non-Arabic speaking people. North implying speakers of Old North Arabian (from which Classical Arabic descends) descended from the Adnanites and South referring to Old South Arabian speakers of Qahtani descent.
Second, whoever wrote the following(see below) has no idea what the difference is between Arab, Arabic, Arabian, North Arabian and South Arabian.
Al-Zaidi ( talk) 03:13, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
what I want to say ..that Adnani Arabs People Belonging to The Akkadians —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.2.135 ( talk) 00:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be fairly scant referencing here for there being 40 generations of descent between Abraham, a figure whose existance is not proven, and Adnan. Shouldn't the information presented here be presented as a mythological explanation, or at least as one possible explanation, rather than as genealogical fact? ++ Lar: t/ c 14:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
i want to ask about the thing he said concerning that those named adnan are called "g'hab" what does that mean and can he provide that word in arabic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.112.192.20 ( talk) 22:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The second and third paragraphs of the Origins section express disagreement (e.g. "false claims") with a given POV (that Adnanites are "Arabized Arabs" - which tbh, I don't understand, should be explained what the issue is) with no references or support. If there are genuinely different opinions on this subject then all the different opinions should be explained, with references to the most recognised sources for those opinions. Helvetius ( talk) 10:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
The traditional line of descent from Adam to Adnan was copied from Category:Adnanites ( Revision history). – Fayenatic L ondon 19:47, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
We need a translation of the Arabic citation, and if it is just a quotation then we need to know where it comes from.
I tried using Google Translate, which indicates that it starts, "Musa ibn Yacob Adbullah ibn Wahab..." I can't trace a source using that.
The same Arabic text seems to be used in multiple articles in English Wikipedia: Qusai ibn Kilab, Quraysh tribe, Banu Kinanah. – Fayenatic L ondon 19:47, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that someone wrote "Canaanite Arabs" instead of Ishmaelites, i don't see how that can be true, because Canaanites are not Arabs, besides, they lived up in Palestine while the Adnanite Arabs are the sons of Adnan who was a descendant of Ishmael according to Arabic records, and they lived in North & West of the Arabian peninsula
saying the term "Canaanite Arabs" is like saying "Assyrian Greeks" or "Black Aryans" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omar amross ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 4 February 2013
Actually, Cannaties have an ancient arabian origin so that would have made them arab by default. I don't see the problem anyways, they were both semitic. Akmal94 ( talk) 12:08, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry i edited the the ancesrtral line that was put in the origin section because it says Adnan is a descendant to Nebaioth
only one scholar say that which it's "Ibn Ishaq", but all of other scholars hold Adnan to be the descendant of Kedar not Nebaioth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omar amross ( talk • contribs) 15:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
I can't really fix all of this article problems many theories are presented as facts and many complicated issues that its even hard to describe them without giving a very long introductions and explanations anyway I hope if there is an Arab here who can review this article and fix it with me SharabSalam ( talk) 15:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The infobox's "death_date" field (which is what shows up as "Died" in the infobox itself) is given as "(Ali)". To me, at least, it's not clear whether this is just (as it seems on its face) a screwup, or else if it is somehow meaningful in the context of deaths and/or times in Arabic or Islamic culture (of which I am largely ignorant). So, rather than simply removing it, I'm just mentioning it here on the talk page, in the hopes that someone more knowledgeable than me will notice. - Rwv37 ( talk) 01:08, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
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The use of north vs south is currently inaccurate; currently it is used to describe Arabs, but I think that Arabia would be more appropriate. Jayvdb 03:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Southern Arabs (Qahtani) moved to the North from 3rd cenury AD. and in many times they became the northern most of the Arabs. (Ghassanids, Lakhmids) it remained that way until Islam
The origin of which word was derived from the other can go either way-- Skatewalk 04:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Whoever said that Yemen means south is right but not the whole Yemen is the south the name of Yemen came from South Yemeni kingdom called Yamnat which is in the south of Yemen its not about being in the south of Arabia or north of Arabia, Yamnat is the origin of the Yemen name and there were lots of tribes there like Himyarites Sabaeans and others SharabSalam ( talk) 15:23, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I'll be frank, North/South dichotomy is easier for non-Arabic speaking people. North implying speakers of Old North Arabian (from which Classical Arabic descends) descended from the Adnanites and South referring to Old South Arabian speakers of Qahtani descent.
Second, whoever wrote the following(see below) has no idea what the difference is between Arab, Arabic, Arabian, North Arabian and South Arabian.
Al-Zaidi ( talk) 03:13, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
what I want to say ..that Adnani Arabs People Belonging to The Akkadians —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.2.135 ( talk) 00:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be fairly scant referencing here for there being 40 generations of descent between Abraham, a figure whose existance is not proven, and Adnan. Shouldn't the information presented here be presented as a mythological explanation, or at least as one possible explanation, rather than as genealogical fact? ++ Lar: t/ c 14:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
i want to ask about the thing he said concerning that those named adnan are called "g'hab" what does that mean and can he provide that word in arabic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.112.192.20 ( talk) 22:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The second and third paragraphs of the Origins section express disagreement (e.g. "false claims") with a given POV (that Adnanites are "Arabized Arabs" - which tbh, I don't understand, should be explained what the issue is) with no references or support. If there are genuinely different opinions on this subject then all the different opinions should be explained, with references to the most recognised sources for those opinions. Helvetius ( talk) 10:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
The traditional line of descent from Adam to Adnan was copied from Category:Adnanites ( Revision history). – Fayenatic L ondon 19:47, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
We need a translation of the Arabic citation, and if it is just a quotation then we need to know where it comes from.
I tried using Google Translate, which indicates that it starts, "Musa ibn Yacob Adbullah ibn Wahab..." I can't trace a source using that.
The same Arabic text seems to be used in multiple articles in English Wikipedia: Qusai ibn Kilab, Quraysh tribe, Banu Kinanah. – Fayenatic L ondon 19:47, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that someone wrote "Canaanite Arabs" instead of Ishmaelites, i don't see how that can be true, because Canaanites are not Arabs, besides, they lived up in Palestine while the Adnanite Arabs are the sons of Adnan who was a descendant of Ishmael according to Arabic records, and they lived in North & West of the Arabian peninsula
saying the term "Canaanite Arabs" is like saying "Assyrian Greeks" or "Black Aryans" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omar amross ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 4 February 2013
Actually, Cannaties have an ancient arabian origin so that would have made them arab by default. I don't see the problem anyways, they were both semitic. Akmal94 ( talk) 12:08, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry i edited the the ancesrtral line that was put in the origin section because it says Adnan is a descendant to Nebaioth
only one scholar say that which it's "Ibn Ishaq", but all of other scholars hold Adnan to be the descendant of Kedar not Nebaioth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omar amross ( talk • contribs) 15:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
I can't really fix all of this article problems many theories are presented as facts and many complicated issues that its even hard to describe them without giving a very long introductions and explanations anyway I hope if there is an Arab here who can review this article and fix it with me SharabSalam ( talk) 15:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The infobox's "death_date" field (which is what shows up as "Died" in the infobox itself) is given as "(Ali)". To me, at least, it's not clear whether this is just (as it seems on its face) a screwup, or else if it is somehow meaningful in the context of deaths and/or times in Arabic or Islamic culture (of which I am largely ignorant). So, rather than simply removing it, I'm just mentioning it here on the talk page, in the hopes that someone more knowledgeable than me will notice. - Rwv37 ( talk) 01:08, 30 April 2023 (UTC)