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@ Lemabeta: stop adding false information and removing sources.
For instance here you added this source that is about inhabitants on Adjara, but there are Adjarians outside of Adjara and non-Adjarians in Adjara.
And here: of course Adjarians in Turkey speak Turkish (I know so many of them...). a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 21:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
@ A455bcd9 By the context its clear its talking about Adjarians, as it mentions ethnic Georgians.-- Lemabeta ( talk) 21:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
@ A455bcd9 Why are you inciting hatred by mentioning something that has nothing to do with the majority of Georgians? You mentioned "but many Georgians see Muslim Adjarians as second-class "Turkicized" Georgians" Even if its written by someone that doesn't mean its true nowadays. Most Georgians dont view them as turkicified Georgians and moreover they embraced Christianity.. As i already provided the source of Adjarians being majority Christians i will also be changing the "also known as Muslim Georgians" because it doesn't apply to them. Muslim Georgians is said about Meskhetian Georgians of Turkey. Lemabeta ( talk) 21:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
One source was used in the article to claim that Adjarian identity is at odds with the Georgian. This information is outdated. The source itself uses the past tense - "Although most Adjarians considered themselves Georgians, they also knew that many Georgians considered Adjarians "Turks" or at least second-class "Turkicized" Georgians because of their difference in religion". Pay attention to "considered", this was the problem of the past. Even this cited source later says: "Adjarians today are a modern and quite secular people, many of whom consider themselves agnostic". Ancestors of Adjarians were Chiristians, but they were Islamized during Turkish rule, but in 1990s almost all converted back to Christianity. In 1989 Adjara had 392 707 residents and 75% were Muslim, while in 2014 (latest statistic) Adjara has 333 953 people and 65% are Christian. Nowadays, Adjarians are considered by everyone as full Georgian like other Georgians. They were considered "turkicized" by some when they were occupied and annexed by Turkish empire, but not anymore, since majority is now Christian. The problem is of the past and outdated. The term "Adjaria" is not anymore associated with Islam or anything, this was so only in the past. 180.248.13.155 ( talk) 01:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Someone is deleting totally sourced information with no reasons provided and no explanation, please anyone protect the page from such vandalism - https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Adjarians&diff=1223449811&oldid=1223407467 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.181.95.10 ( talk) 09:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Please protect the page from vandalism and nonsense, Abashidze was appointed as Adjara's head by Gamsakhurdia and he was elected as a representative of Round Table, he did not fight Gamsakhurdia, he became semi-independent only after coup against Gamsakhurdia and Shevardnadze's accession. Please include this information into the article instead of nonsense about some sort of identity struggle between Adjarains and the rest of Georgians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.64.173.55 ( talk) 14:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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@ Lemabeta: stop adding false information and removing sources.
For instance here you added this source that is about inhabitants on Adjara, but there are Adjarians outside of Adjara and non-Adjarians in Adjara.
And here: of course Adjarians in Turkey speak Turkish (I know so many of them...). a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 21:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
@ A455bcd9 By the context its clear its talking about Adjarians, as it mentions ethnic Georgians.-- Lemabeta ( talk) 21:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
@ A455bcd9 Why are you inciting hatred by mentioning something that has nothing to do with the majority of Georgians? You mentioned "but many Georgians see Muslim Adjarians as second-class "Turkicized" Georgians" Even if its written by someone that doesn't mean its true nowadays. Most Georgians dont view them as turkicified Georgians and moreover they embraced Christianity.. As i already provided the source of Adjarians being majority Christians i will also be changing the "also known as Muslim Georgians" because it doesn't apply to them. Muslim Georgians is said about Meskhetian Georgians of Turkey. Lemabeta ( talk) 21:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
One source was used in the article to claim that Adjarian identity is at odds with the Georgian. This information is outdated. The source itself uses the past tense - "Although most Adjarians considered themselves Georgians, they also knew that many Georgians considered Adjarians "Turks" or at least second-class "Turkicized" Georgians because of their difference in religion". Pay attention to "considered", this was the problem of the past. Even this cited source later says: "Adjarians today are a modern and quite secular people, many of whom consider themselves agnostic". Ancestors of Adjarians were Chiristians, but they were Islamized during Turkish rule, but in 1990s almost all converted back to Christianity. In 1989 Adjara had 392 707 residents and 75% were Muslim, while in 2014 (latest statistic) Adjara has 333 953 people and 65% are Christian. Nowadays, Adjarians are considered by everyone as full Georgian like other Georgians. They were considered "turkicized" by some when they were occupied and annexed by Turkish empire, but not anymore, since majority is now Christian. The problem is of the past and outdated. The term "Adjaria" is not anymore associated with Islam or anything, this was so only in the past. 180.248.13.155 ( talk) 01:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Someone is deleting totally sourced information with no reasons provided and no explanation, please anyone protect the page from such vandalism - https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Adjarians&diff=1223449811&oldid=1223407467 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.181.95.10 ( talk) 09:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Please protect the page from vandalism and nonsense, Abashidze was appointed as Adjara's head by Gamsakhurdia and he was elected as a representative of Round Table, he did not fight Gamsakhurdia, he became semi-independent only after coup against Gamsakhurdia and Shevardnadze's accession. Please include this information into the article instead of nonsense about some sort of identity struggle between Adjarains and the rest of Georgians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.64.173.55 ( talk) 14:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)