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There cannot be two "firsts." I believe I have given ample evidence that, since Pan Sophic was founded as a fraternity, and two years before Adelphikos, Pan Sophic deserves that title. Unless you are willing to prove that Adelphikos, and not Pan Sophic, is the true originator of G.C.C.'s Greek system (which of course would be an affront on the men who ran Pan Sophic underground for two years), I request that you refrain from making such reputable claims. There is nothing wrong with being founded in 1913, and if you want, we do not have to make such a big deal out of who came first. Personally, I would prefer the title "best" over "first." Yet it is a disservice to the online community to put forth blatantly contradictory and misleading information, won't you agree?
I think this article needs a little bit of work. The introductory paragraph is fairly sparse and somewhat redundant. Listing the founding members seems like a good idea, but Wikipedia generally frowns on listing current members of relatively unknown organizations. (Because it borders on WP's ban on vanity articles.) I don't know enough about the Adels to feel comfortable editing the article myself, but those are just some of my thoughts on what could be done. Maybe you could add some content concerning the Adels' current goals and activities. -- Nothlit 02:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
There seem to be a few POV issues in this article.
"The fraternity began struggling in the late 1970s, committing many violations of campus rules which resulted in the revocation of their charter during the 1990s." - This sentence, particularly the use of the word "struggling", sounds like a biased statement that is mostly opinion-based. Perhaps the the mention of some key events leading up to the fraternity's demise could help make the article more factual. See WP:NPOV.
"Its current members are seeking to preserve the history and tradition of the fraternity with a conscious effort to learn from both tradition and previous members while staying true to a Christian framework." - This whole statement is troublesome, since it has to do with motives and it would be extremely difficult to support with any verifiable facts. It should be changed to a direct citation of the fraternity's mission statement, or just removed altogether.
I am adding a POV tag to the article to bring awareness to this issue and encourage discussion. 72.23.224.61 ( talk) 20:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Unless the charter has been modified in the past few years, the Adelphikos fraternity never was a christian fraternity. It is a social fraternity.
The Adelphikos were originally a very Christian fraternity - eight of the ten original members went on to seminary. In the mid-period of its existence the Christian emphasis was largely abandoned, but it has been resurrected and revitalized in the past decade. It is definitely a Christian fraternity today - this is made clear in the current constitution. 72.23.224.17 ( talk) 04:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
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There cannot be two "firsts." I believe I have given ample evidence that, since Pan Sophic was founded as a fraternity, and two years before Adelphikos, Pan Sophic deserves that title. Unless you are willing to prove that Adelphikos, and not Pan Sophic, is the true originator of G.C.C.'s Greek system (which of course would be an affront on the men who ran Pan Sophic underground for two years), I request that you refrain from making such reputable claims. There is nothing wrong with being founded in 1913, and if you want, we do not have to make such a big deal out of who came first. Personally, I would prefer the title "best" over "first." Yet it is a disservice to the online community to put forth blatantly contradictory and misleading information, won't you agree?
I think this article needs a little bit of work. The introductory paragraph is fairly sparse and somewhat redundant. Listing the founding members seems like a good idea, but Wikipedia generally frowns on listing current members of relatively unknown organizations. (Because it borders on WP's ban on vanity articles.) I don't know enough about the Adels to feel comfortable editing the article myself, but those are just some of my thoughts on what could be done. Maybe you could add some content concerning the Adels' current goals and activities. -- Nothlit 02:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
There seem to be a few POV issues in this article.
"The fraternity began struggling in the late 1970s, committing many violations of campus rules which resulted in the revocation of their charter during the 1990s." - This sentence, particularly the use of the word "struggling", sounds like a biased statement that is mostly opinion-based. Perhaps the the mention of some key events leading up to the fraternity's demise could help make the article more factual. See WP:NPOV.
"Its current members are seeking to preserve the history and tradition of the fraternity with a conscious effort to learn from both tradition and previous members while staying true to a Christian framework." - This whole statement is troublesome, since it has to do with motives and it would be extremely difficult to support with any verifiable facts. It should be changed to a direct citation of the fraternity's mission statement, or just removed altogether.
I am adding a POV tag to the article to bring awareness to this issue and encourage discussion. 72.23.224.61 ( talk) 20:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Unless the charter has been modified in the past few years, the Adelphikos fraternity never was a christian fraternity. It is a social fraternity.
The Adelphikos were originally a very Christian fraternity - eight of the ten original members went on to seminary. In the mid-period of its existence the Christian emphasis was largely abandoned, but it has been resurrected and revitalized in the past decade. It is definitely a Christian fraternity today - this is made clear in the current constitution. 72.23.224.17 ( talk) 04:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
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