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The image for 'Acre' used to be massive. I attempted to minimize it, but have accidentally effaced it altogether somehow (although the code remains in the source). For the time being, no picture is better than a gargantuan one, but I'd appreciate someone sorting this out.
CharlieRCD ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
How come, Akko is well inside the Green Line (242 does not apply), its inhabitants (Jewish and Arab alike) are Israeli citizens, what's the issue here? -- Uriyan
Uriyan is right here. There is no question that Acre, a coastal town in the Western Galilee, is within the boundaries of pre-1967 Israel. Danny
I worked through the page and did major copy edits and divided into topics and sub-topics. I also replaced the information about Akko's wall with a correct one and added some links with the history of Akko, as well as the official site of the Old Acre Developmemt Company.
Currently, the part of history is need more works since its laking many details. Also, we need to relate to the modern city of Akko (outside the walls). MathKnight 15:18, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
A google search on English pages returns:
Restricting the search to Palistine and Israel
It is not archaic to us it in English eg:
Original Author which was not a stub starts: "Acre, Akka, or St Jean D'Acre",
So why is this article not under "Acre (city)" or some other title? PBS 11:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Even if the page is not moved, the first name in the introduction should be "Acre" as that is the common English name. It should also be used throughout the rest of the article. PBS 13:52, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Ok...so why is it now at "City of Acre"? "Acre (city)" is the most appropriately disambiguated title. "City of Acre" makes no sense. I notice, Philip, that you are even changing links to the "city" link, which redirects here... Adam Bishop 04:06, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
The article says:
Which Herod is meant? Gdr 21:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC) I was just wondering if anyone could add anything About Bahaullah. He is believed by the Bahais to be a prophet of God and I believe sent out various messages to the various leaders of countries at the time in Akka. Sorry Im not that informed on the subject but if anyone has any information, I think it may be a welcome addition to the cities history.
There appears to be an article about this fellow, as Cezzar Ahmet. It looks like there should just be a redirect or something to the unwritten Jezzar Pasha Mdanziger 21:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
There is too much written here about the Hospitaller's and their role in Acre, which is significantly dwarfed in reality by the role of the Knights Templar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.4.139.79 ( talk • contribs) 19:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I can't belive he's not mentioned in this article..... COME ON.....
Pure inuyasha 01:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I moved the infobox out of the lead section because 1) it is ugly 2) the purpose of the lead section (see Wikipedia: Lead section) is to draw reader attention into the article and a picture is much more stylistically pleasing and inviting than a bland wall of statistics and 3) there is no rule that says infoboxes have to be in the lead section. In fact, many infoboxen have incorporated pictures into them -- with the picture coming first! It doesn't matter where the infobox goes in the article but it shouldn't be in the lead section when there are perfectly good pictures that can go there. In addition, per the MoS on image placement, don't stack images (or boxes) one on top of each other, they should be "laddered" left/right, there are even "nag tamplates" for articles that do that. -- Stbalbach 05:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this entry:
See Talk:Tiberias#Ongoing war incidents for reason for removal from the article. -- Stbalbach 13:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed it's not mentioned in the first line.-- NEMT 13:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
We might want to get a recording of a pronunciation. I've heard it pronounced (and by "heard", what I really mean is "played Assassin's Creed - that's DEFINITELY a good source) as basically "Ak", and then just a hint of a second syllable with a "Kuh". 82.19.71.40 ( talk) 23:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Do we want to keep the paragraph on Lieutenant Petit? It is unsubstantiated hearsay that has obvious credibility problems on a number of fronts - also the person who originally added it to this article mis-represented what the source said - I had to find the source and re-write the paragraph so it was accurate. What does it add to this article, all it shows is a Palestinian made un-proven claims against the Israeli army of atrocities - we could write an entire Encyclopedia of people who make claims like that. -- Stbalbach 15:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
It may be the case that "Akko" is supplanting "Acre" in modern usage, and that English language sources will shift towards the more historically accurate spelling. At that time, if we've got the same naming conventions, we'll move the article. - GTBacchus( talk) 03:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Acre, Israel → Akko — this wikipedia article, by the name of acre, is reffering to the Israeli city of Akko - this city has been by the name Akko since even before the days of the Kingdom of Israel (i.e. pre-2000BC) and it is belived that Abraham went past it on his way from nowdays southern syria to Shchem (his path is illustrated by a mosaic in a beit knesset there) - the city only had it's name changed to acre after the muslim invasion (post-7th century AD) and the current international name is Akko - therefore i believe the correct name for the article is by the international Israeli name. Jaakobou 17:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
a few extra "akko" refrences:
(1) www.akko.org.il/ (2) www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vie/Acco.html (3) www.stateofisrael.com/tourism/akko/
wiki-related: http://wikitravel.org/en/Akko
Jaakobou 00:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Since when has Acre been in the 'region of Europe and North America'? (see infobox). Is this PoV pushing? Imc ( talk) 14:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the following statement as it has been marked "citation needed" for several months:
If anyone can find a source, feel free to re-add it. — An gr If you've written a quality article... 16:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
In the city details on the right, there is no mention that Acre is in Israel, although on the page for Tripoli, it is explicitly stated that it's Tripoli, Lybia. This should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toxvaerd ( talk • contribs) 09:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
sorry not sure how to properly add to this discussion, but if there is a note in the article concerning how many current arab israelis descended from pre-1948 demographics why not a similar note about the jewish population? it would only be fair for a historical article to address the sources and origins of both communities rather than just the one. 213.181.227.100 ( talk) 11:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)josh
The section I removed is a claim about general Israeli policy, which does not mention the demographics of Acre. In fact, it does not mention Acre at all. How is this relevant to the section and/or article? Canadian Monkey ( talk) 19:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I wonder, what is the point, beside defamation, to bring the allegations that proved to be unfounded in the history of a 3,000 years old city? Did you know that in 1812/1813 at least half the Muslim population of Acre perished due to plague outbreak? (Thomas Phillip: Acre the rise and fall of a Palestinian city page 176). This was a much larger calamity then the typhoid fever of 1948, but considering the long history of the city I do not believe that even that should be mentioned in the article. Taking a anecdote and making it an important part of the history of Acre (about tenth of the history section in the article is dedicated to that) is wrong. Avihu ( talk) 08:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
The article places Suleiman Pasha as the ruler between Jezzar Pasha and the conquer by Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt. The Israeli wiki claims this is Abdalla Pasha, and has a very detailed article on him. [11]. Can anyone explain? Are they the same person? -- Muhandes ( talk) 07:58, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Is this section needed? (WP:TRIVIA)? Chesdovi ( talk) 11:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
There are a lot of citations to "Sharon, 1997" in the article, but really if that's the author of a book I couldn't find it. Anyone can verify or knows what that book is? 89.141.116.9 ( talk) 22:37, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Can someone add further to the statement that "Ethnic tensions erupted in the city on 8 October 2008 after an Arab citizen drove through a predominantly Jewish neighbourhood". Surely rioting did not break out simply because an Arab drove through a predominantly (but therefore not exclusively) Jewish neighbourhood? Royalcourtier ( talk) 23:57, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Please add a link to the orphaned page Saint Jawarjius Church and Monastery, an Oriental Orthodox church located in the city of Acre. /info/en/?search=Saint_Jawarjius_Church_and_Monastery Sideriver84 ( talk) 07:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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The name Acre most likely derives from the Greek 'Akra' meaning "end, point or extremity" which befits the geography of Acre's natural harbour.<Greek dictionary, Divry> 110.22.48.169 ( talk) 22:53, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Adding this picture to the Acre (Israel) page is recommended. https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:British_Memorial_Plaque_in_Acre_(Israel)-1.jpg 109.66.117.91 ( talk) 11:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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In this phrase:
thirty-two per cent of the city's population is Arab
Please change to:
32% of the city's population is Arab
One sentence later, there's a comment about the mayor last being elected with 85% of the vote, not eighty-five per cent of the vote; it helps to use the same format consistently. 123.51.107.94 ( talk) 02:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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I suggest you remove the "and perhaps diphtheria" section from your section under the 1948 Palestine War section, as that is quite literally impossible. Diphtheria cannot be transferred through water, it is an airborne virus.
It should simply then read "...pouring flasks of typhoid bacteria into the aqueduct," RaccoonLover21 ( talk) 03:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
These were previously being (mis)applied in the etym section (they don't source the Egyptian text as being "Akka" at all)
but the first isn't bad itself and the second is fantastic. Both could be used for extensive citation or additions of points in the history section. — LlywelynII 17:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
could be used to further source some of the name points or to find areas where the current content might need adjustment.
ditto for the early history and trade networks. — LlywelynII 10:12, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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The image for 'Acre' used to be massive. I attempted to minimize it, but have accidentally effaced it altogether somehow (although the code remains in the source). For the time being, no picture is better than a gargantuan one, but I'd appreciate someone sorting this out.
CharlieRCD ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
How come, Akko is well inside the Green Line (242 does not apply), its inhabitants (Jewish and Arab alike) are Israeli citizens, what's the issue here? -- Uriyan
Uriyan is right here. There is no question that Acre, a coastal town in the Western Galilee, is within the boundaries of pre-1967 Israel. Danny
I worked through the page and did major copy edits and divided into topics and sub-topics. I also replaced the information about Akko's wall with a correct one and added some links with the history of Akko, as well as the official site of the Old Acre Developmemt Company.
Currently, the part of history is need more works since its laking many details. Also, we need to relate to the modern city of Akko (outside the walls). MathKnight 15:18, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
A google search on English pages returns:
Restricting the search to Palistine and Israel
It is not archaic to us it in English eg:
Original Author which was not a stub starts: "Acre, Akka, or St Jean D'Acre",
So why is this article not under "Acre (city)" or some other title? PBS 11:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Even if the page is not moved, the first name in the introduction should be "Acre" as that is the common English name. It should also be used throughout the rest of the article. PBS 13:52, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Ok...so why is it now at "City of Acre"? "Acre (city)" is the most appropriately disambiguated title. "City of Acre" makes no sense. I notice, Philip, that you are even changing links to the "city" link, which redirects here... Adam Bishop 04:06, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
The article says:
Which Herod is meant? Gdr 21:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC) I was just wondering if anyone could add anything About Bahaullah. He is believed by the Bahais to be a prophet of God and I believe sent out various messages to the various leaders of countries at the time in Akka. Sorry Im not that informed on the subject but if anyone has any information, I think it may be a welcome addition to the cities history.
There appears to be an article about this fellow, as Cezzar Ahmet. It looks like there should just be a redirect or something to the unwritten Jezzar Pasha Mdanziger 21:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
There is too much written here about the Hospitaller's and their role in Acre, which is significantly dwarfed in reality by the role of the Knights Templar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.4.139.79 ( talk • contribs) 19:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I can't belive he's not mentioned in this article..... COME ON.....
Pure inuyasha 01:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I moved the infobox out of the lead section because 1) it is ugly 2) the purpose of the lead section (see Wikipedia: Lead section) is to draw reader attention into the article and a picture is much more stylistically pleasing and inviting than a bland wall of statistics and 3) there is no rule that says infoboxes have to be in the lead section. In fact, many infoboxen have incorporated pictures into them -- with the picture coming first! It doesn't matter where the infobox goes in the article but it shouldn't be in the lead section when there are perfectly good pictures that can go there. In addition, per the MoS on image placement, don't stack images (or boxes) one on top of each other, they should be "laddered" left/right, there are even "nag tamplates" for articles that do that. -- Stbalbach 05:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this entry:
See Talk:Tiberias#Ongoing war incidents for reason for removal from the article. -- Stbalbach 13:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed it's not mentioned in the first line.-- NEMT 13:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
We might want to get a recording of a pronunciation. I've heard it pronounced (and by "heard", what I really mean is "played Assassin's Creed - that's DEFINITELY a good source) as basically "Ak", and then just a hint of a second syllable with a "Kuh". 82.19.71.40 ( talk) 23:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Do we want to keep the paragraph on Lieutenant Petit? It is unsubstantiated hearsay that has obvious credibility problems on a number of fronts - also the person who originally added it to this article mis-represented what the source said - I had to find the source and re-write the paragraph so it was accurate. What does it add to this article, all it shows is a Palestinian made un-proven claims against the Israeli army of atrocities - we could write an entire Encyclopedia of people who make claims like that. -- Stbalbach 15:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
It may be the case that "Akko" is supplanting "Acre" in modern usage, and that English language sources will shift towards the more historically accurate spelling. At that time, if we've got the same naming conventions, we'll move the article. - GTBacchus( talk) 03:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Acre, Israel → Akko — this wikipedia article, by the name of acre, is reffering to the Israeli city of Akko - this city has been by the name Akko since even before the days of the Kingdom of Israel (i.e. pre-2000BC) and it is belived that Abraham went past it on his way from nowdays southern syria to Shchem (his path is illustrated by a mosaic in a beit knesset there) - the city only had it's name changed to acre after the muslim invasion (post-7th century AD) and the current international name is Akko - therefore i believe the correct name for the article is by the international Israeli name. Jaakobou 17:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
a few extra "akko" refrences:
(1) www.akko.org.il/ (2) www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vie/Acco.html (3) www.stateofisrael.com/tourism/akko/
wiki-related: http://wikitravel.org/en/Akko
Jaakobou 00:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Since when has Acre been in the 'region of Europe and North America'? (see infobox). Is this PoV pushing? Imc ( talk) 14:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the following statement as it has been marked "citation needed" for several months:
If anyone can find a source, feel free to re-add it. — An gr If you've written a quality article... 16:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
In the city details on the right, there is no mention that Acre is in Israel, although on the page for Tripoli, it is explicitly stated that it's Tripoli, Lybia. This should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toxvaerd ( talk • contribs) 09:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
sorry not sure how to properly add to this discussion, but if there is a note in the article concerning how many current arab israelis descended from pre-1948 demographics why not a similar note about the jewish population? it would only be fair for a historical article to address the sources and origins of both communities rather than just the one. 213.181.227.100 ( talk) 11:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)josh
The section I removed is a claim about general Israeli policy, which does not mention the demographics of Acre. In fact, it does not mention Acre at all. How is this relevant to the section and/or article? Canadian Monkey ( talk) 19:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I wonder, what is the point, beside defamation, to bring the allegations that proved to be unfounded in the history of a 3,000 years old city? Did you know that in 1812/1813 at least half the Muslim population of Acre perished due to plague outbreak? (Thomas Phillip: Acre the rise and fall of a Palestinian city page 176). This was a much larger calamity then the typhoid fever of 1948, but considering the long history of the city I do not believe that even that should be mentioned in the article. Taking a anecdote and making it an important part of the history of Acre (about tenth of the history section in the article is dedicated to that) is wrong. Avihu ( talk) 08:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
The article places Suleiman Pasha as the ruler between Jezzar Pasha and the conquer by Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt. The Israeli wiki claims this is Abdalla Pasha, and has a very detailed article on him. [11]. Can anyone explain? Are they the same person? -- Muhandes ( talk) 07:58, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Is this section needed? (WP:TRIVIA)? Chesdovi ( talk) 11:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
There are a lot of citations to "Sharon, 1997" in the article, but really if that's the author of a book I couldn't find it. Anyone can verify or knows what that book is? 89.141.116.9 ( talk) 22:37, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Can someone add further to the statement that "Ethnic tensions erupted in the city on 8 October 2008 after an Arab citizen drove through a predominantly Jewish neighbourhood". Surely rioting did not break out simply because an Arab drove through a predominantly (but therefore not exclusively) Jewish neighbourhood? Royalcourtier ( talk) 23:57, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Per WP:ERA and WP:ENGVAR, this edit established the usages of the page as BC/AD and British English. Kindly maintain both consistently, pending a new consensus to the contrary. — LlywelynII 08:22, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
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Please add a link to the orphaned page Saint Jawarjius Church and Monastery, an Oriental Orthodox church located in the city of Acre. /info/en/?search=Saint_Jawarjius_Church_and_Monastery Sideriver84 ( talk) 07:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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The name Acre most likely derives from the Greek 'Akra' meaning "end, point or extremity" which befits the geography of Acre's natural harbour.<Greek dictionary, Divry> 110.22.48.169 ( talk) 22:53, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Adding this picture to the Acre (Israel) page is recommended. https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:British_Memorial_Plaque_in_Acre_(Israel)-1.jpg 109.66.117.91 ( talk) 11:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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In this phrase:
thirty-two per cent of the city's population is Arab
Please change to:
32% of the city's population is Arab
One sentence later, there's a comment about the mayor last being elected with 85% of the vote, not eighty-five per cent of the vote; it helps to use the same format consistently. 123.51.107.94 ( talk) 02:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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I suggest you remove the "and perhaps diphtheria" section from your section under the 1948 Palestine War section, as that is quite literally impossible. Diphtheria cannot be transferred through water, it is an airborne virus.
It should simply then read "...pouring flasks of typhoid bacteria into the aqueduct," RaccoonLover21 ( talk) 03:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
These were previously being (mis)applied in the etym section (they don't source the Egyptian text as being "Akka" at all)
but the first isn't bad itself and the second is fantastic. Both could be used for extensive citation or additions of points in the history section. — LlywelynII 17:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
could be used to further source some of the name points or to find areas where the current content might need adjustment.
ditto for the early history and trade networks. — LlywelynII 10:12, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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