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someone claimed that "Apsu" is a Sanskrit word, and thus predates this.
1.) Sumerian predates Sanskrit. 2.) It isn't even a single morpheme - its the locative plural of Ap. Second, its use is mostly in compounds - not by itself. See MMW 59, third column.
What the? He is oldest god? And maybe can edit even information of him, nice...
How is Aspu pronounced? Tutthoth-Ankhre ( talk) 20:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
the correct sumerian form of the word is abzu, apsu is the akkadian gloss per EPSD
http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/nepsd-frame.html I have made this correction. also I removed this
since it is not the correct sign and this passages since it also tangential
Marduk, though called "firstborn son of the apsû" is actually Ea's (Enki's) son, not Apsû's; the title is meant to be taken metaphorically, as Marduk was the first "child" born in the apsû.
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That final section just screams made up crap to me. What evidence is there that the ruin in South Africa has ANYTHING to do with the Sumerians? I read the foot noted article, it was a lot of speculation and not a lot of fact. The same goes for everywhere else on the internet I looked. It seemed the only people making a connection were trying to prove an ancient aliens connection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wetaskiwin ( talk • contribs) 17:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Having taking several college courses on the ancient Near East, Wetaskwin is correct. The only source I could find referring to South Africa was absolutely unreliable. The author of that source (whose bio appears
here), an enthusiast of prehistory, clearly states the following about himself: "...I have not received any training in prehistory..." Furthermore, the alleged "South Africa-Abzu" hypothesis or whatever "ancient wisdom/ancient aliens" hypothesis is called has absolutely no basis in scientific study, and there is no evidence to suggest that it is in any way true. These ideas are rooted in some weird New Age philosophy that, knowingly or not, seems to have some contempt for academia. Besides, even if this strange hypothesis were somehow true, no professional archaeologists have ever written about it or reviewed findings of any study, making it unsuitable for a Wikipedia page. I hope that that settles the matter, and that people will stop adding fringe pseudo-scientific hypotheses to an otherwise reputable page. It is unfortunate that people can so easily be led astray by the grossly speculative and un-scientific programming of the History Channel, and I hope that this page and these posts will disabuse some individuals genuinely curious about the murkier areas of ancient Near Eastern mythology.
tl;dr: Delete references to South Africa whenever they crop up, unless they come from a legitimate academic source.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SJM 76.98.25.53 ( talk) 06:46, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Why isnt kingu listed as a child of apsu Phelpsdaniel16 ( talk) 04:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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someone claimed that "Apsu" is a Sanskrit word, and thus predates this.
1.) Sumerian predates Sanskrit. 2.) It isn't even a single morpheme - its the locative plural of Ap. Second, its use is mostly in compounds - not by itself. See MMW 59, third column.
What the? He is oldest god? And maybe can edit even information of him, nice...
How is Aspu pronounced? Tutthoth-Ankhre ( talk) 20:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
the correct sumerian form of the word is abzu, apsu is the akkadian gloss per EPSD
http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/nepsd-frame.html I have made this correction. also I removed this
since it is not the correct sign and this passages since it also tangential
Marduk, though called "firstborn son of the apsû" is actually Ea's (Enki's) son, not Apsû's; the title is meant to be taken metaphorically, as Marduk was the first "child" born in the apsû.
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That final section just screams made up crap to me. What evidence is there that the ruin in South Africa has ANYTHING to do with the Sumerians? I read the foot noted article, it was a lot of speculation and not a lot of fact. The same goes for everywhere else on the internet I looked. It seemed the only people making a connection were trying to prove an ancient aliens connection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wetaskiwin ( talk • contribs) 17:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Having taking several college courses on the ancient Near East, Wetaskwin is correct. The only source I could find referring to South Africa was absolutely unreliable. The author of that source (whose bio appears
here), an enthusiast of prehistory, clearly states the following about himself: "...I have not received any training in prehistory..." Furthermore, the alleged "South Africa-Abzu" hypothesis or whatever "ancient wisdom/ancient aliens" hypothesis is called has absolutely no basis in scientific study, and there is no evidence to suggest that it is in any way true. These ideas are rooted in some weird New Age philosophy that, knowingly or not, seems to have some contempt for academia. Besides, even if this strange hypothesis were somehow true, no professional archaeologists have ever written about it or reviewed findings of any study, making it unsuitable for a Wikipedia page. I hope that that settles the matter, and that people will stop adding fringe pseudo-scientific hypotheses to an otherwise reputable page. It is unfortunate that people can so easily be led astray by the grossly speculative and un-scientific programming of the History Channel, and I hope that this page and these posts will disabuse some individuals genuinely curious about the murkier areas of ancient Near Eastern mythology.
tl;dr: Delete references to South Africa whenever they crop up, unless they come from a legitimate academic source.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SJM 76.98.25.53 ( talk) 06:46, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Why isnt kingu listed as a child of apsu Phelpsdaniel16 ( talk) 04:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)