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Consider last night: (2020-1-14 Democrat debate)
Abby Phillip, CNN employee: "Senator Sanders, . . . in 2018, you told [Warren] that you did not believe that a woman could win the election."Why did you say that ? ”
Sanders: "I did not say that."
Abby Phillip, CNN employee: “Senator Warren, what did you think when Senator Sanders told you a woman could not win the election?”
A cynic might suggest changing Abby Phillip's description in the lede paragraph from "journalist" to "Warren campaign spokesperson Phillip", but seriously, given the above, might not "commentator" be a more accurate description of this CNN employee, than "journalist"?
What do people think? 70.18.10.252 ( talk) 21:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
This is the latest addition of the whole storm-in-a-teacup controversy of Phillip not properly attributing or whatever the point about ... well I don't even want to repeat it, it's so tiny and boring. The thing is,
a. it IS a storm in a teacup. A journalist says something unfortunate and HOLY MOLY LETS HAUNT HER WITH IT ON HER WIKIPEDIA PAGE AND TAINT HER FOREVER.
b. It is entirely undue, given how short her article is.
c. The edit that I reverted is also incorrect, as I pointed out in an edit summary: Phillip wasn't criticized "by" The Hill; rather, The Hill pointed out that no fewer than TWO "media commentators" and one Bernie supporter had complained. Now, Folkenflik is a fine journalist and NPR a fine organization, but for god's sake, it was one tweet--and same with Rich Lowry's comment. The Hill is plenty reliable, but not always neutral, so again, how much weight should this get?
d. Finally, she wasn't accused of bias, as I already pointed out, but User:Clibenfoart seems not to have noticed: read the sources, please, and stop interpreting them so liberally.
e. Did I mention this is a BLP, and don't people care that we're smearing this woman under the guise of "OH THERE'S A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE"? NawlinWiki, maybe this should be semi-protected--did you see there was yet another IP who inserted quotation marks? (God, IP, that was SO cute of you.) Drmies ( talk) 00:34, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
she wasn't(at all)
accused of bias; the sources given include people who described her questions as "unfair" and "jumping off the referee's chair". Nonetheless I suggest that we reword the sentence as: "According to The Hill and The Washington Examiner, some commentators criticized Phillips for how she moderated a particular exchange between candidates Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders". What do you think? Best, Davey2116 ( talk) 04:04, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
"a. it IS a storm in a teacup. A journalist says something unfortunate and HOLY MOLY LETS HAUNT HER WITH IT ON HER WIKIPEDIA PAGE AND TAINT HER FOREVER." It's called karma --- cause and effect. --- Dagme ( talk) 13:42, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Harvard University is the umbrella organization that includes the Harvard Medical School, the Harvard Law School, Harvard College, and a number of other schools and organizations. The only one of these that grants undergraduate degrees such a Batchelor of Arts is Harvard College. See https://www.entitlebooks.com/harvard-college-vs-harvard-university/ and the Wikipedia articles Harvard College and Harvard University.
Ms Philiip graduated from Harvard College with a Batchelor of Arts degree. Dickvb4 ( talk) 01:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
I agree. Thanks. Dickvb4 ( talk) 23:45, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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Abby's birthday is not accurate. I would like to fix that.
Joe Ackerman Josephackerman86 ( talk) 17:17, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
widely published by reliable sources. Given her DOB is not readily available, we can safely say it wouldn’t meet policy yet. It’s ok: honestly it does not add much for the average reader to know more than her general age. Thanks for your interest though. Perhaps you could just keep an eye out for new articles from reliable sources, especially ones that offer more substantive information about her career. Innisfree987 ( talk) 02:04, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
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Consider last night: (2020-1-14 Democrat debate)
Abby Phillip, CNN employee: "Senator Sanders, . . . in 2018, you told [Warren] that you did not believe that a woman could win the election."Why did you say that ? ”
Sanders: "I did not say that."
Abby Phillip, CNN employee: “Senator Warren, what did you think when Senator Sanders told you a woman could not win the election?”
A cynic might suggest changing Abby Phillip's description in the lede paragraph from "journalist" to "Warren campaign spokesperson Phillip", but seriously, given the above, might not "commentator" be a more accurate description of this CNN employee, than "journalist"?
What do people think? 70.18.10.252 ( talk) 21:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
This is the latest addition of the whole storm-in-a-teacup controversy of Phillip not properly attributing or whatever the point about ... well I don't even want to repeat it, it's so tiny and boring. The thing is,
a. it IS a storm in a teacup. A journalist says something unfortunate and HOLY MOLY LETS HAUNT HER WITH IT ON HER WIKIPEDIA PAGE AND TAINT HER FOREVER.
b. It is entirely undue, given how short her article is.
c. The edit that I reverted is also incorrect, as I pointed out in an edit summary: Phillip wasn't criticized "by" The Hill; rather, The Hill pointed out that no fewer than TWO "media commentators" and one Bernie supporter had complained. Now, Folkenflik is a fine journalist and NPR a fine organization, but for god's sake, it was one tweet--and same with Rich Lowry's comment. The Hill is plenty reliable, but not always neutral, so again, how much weight should this get?
d. Finally, she wasn't accused of bias, as I already pointed out, but User:Clibenfoart seems not to have noticed: read the sources, please, and stop interpreting them so liberally.
e. Did I mention this is a BLP, and don't people care that we're smearing this woman under the guise of "OH THERE'S A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE"? NawlinWiki, maybe this should be semi-protected--did you see there was yet another IP who inserted quotation marks? (God, IP, that was SO cute of you.) Drmies ( talk) 00:34, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
she wasn't(at all)
accused of bias; the sources given include people who described her questions as "unfair" and "jumping off the referee's chair". Nonetheless I suggest that we reword the sentence as: "According to The Hill and The Washington Examiner, some commentators criticized Phillips for how she moderated a particular exchange between candidates Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders". What do you think? Best, Davey2116 ( talk) 04:04, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
"a. it IS a storm in a teacup. A journalist says something unfortunate and HOLY MOLY LETS HAUNT HER WITH IT ON HER WIKIPEDIA PAGE AND TAINT HER FOREVER." It's called karma --- cause and effect. --- Dagme ( talk) 13:42, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Harvard University is the umbrella organization that includes the Harvard Medical School, the Harvard Law School, Harvard College, and a number of other schools and organizations. The only one of these that grants undergraduate degrees such a Batchelor of Arts is Harvard College. See https://www.entitlebooks.com/harvard-college-vs-harvard-university/ and the Wikipedia articles Harvard College and Harvard University.
Ms Philiip graduated from Harvard College with a Batchelor of Arts degree. Dickvb4 ( talk) 01:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
I agree. Thanks. Dickvb4 ( talk) 23:45, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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Abby's birthday is not accurate. I would like to fix that.
Joe Ackerman Josephackerman86 ( talk) 17:17, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
widely published by reliable sources. Given her DOB is not readily available, we can safely say it wouldn’t meet policy yet. It’s ok: honestly it does not add much for the average reader to know more than her general age. Thanks for your interest though. Perhaps you could just keep an eye out for new articles from reliable sources, especially ones that offer more substantive information about her career. Innisfree987 ( talk) 02:04, 21 November 2020 (UTC)