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I'd like to talk to the editor of the articles regarding the Avatar series. Please reply with your email, thanks a lot! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.42.23.112 ( talk • contribs) 20:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I would really like to add one character description to the Aang page. It was for Toph, Aang's new friend from Avatar. Avatarblade
==Sozin vs. Sozen== Sozin is spelled Sozen. I have proof
But where is it comming from( abook or so) --195.85.191.218
According to google trends, Zuko is more searched for than Aang Sokka and Katara. Aang comes in second, with Katara in third. 71.232.171.189 22:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC) That's really not that all surprising. H2P 05:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
You shouldn't say he has no hair, you should say his head is shaved. Mace Windu (Star Wars) has no hair, but they stated that his head is shaved. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.4.79.82 ( talk • contribs) 07:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
HE DOES HAVE HAIR! IN THE EPISODE "TALES OF BA SING SAE" HE SHAVES HIS HAIR. IN SEASON THREE HE HAS DARK BROWN HAIR.
Well I guess we just got this question answered :-P H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 07:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
In the episode, 'Tales of Ba Sing Se', we see the group getting ready for the day and Aang is seen shaving his head.
They could just destroy the hair roots so hair doesn't grow. Xenero 18:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC) but then how do you explain him having black/brown hair in season 3?
i AGREE. HE DOES HAVE HAIR! IN THE EPISODE "TALES OF BA SING SAE" HE SHAVES HIS HAIR. IN SEASON THREE HE HAS DARK BROWN HAIR.
I was just wondering if Aang has become a waterbending master? Katara mentioned in "Bitter Work" that he has the reflexed of a waterbending master. Does this mean he's mastered it?
Shouldn't you guys update the part regarding Aang's bending abilities? I mean he's already pretty good (though not a master) in waterbeding and in earthbending, as we've seen in SOFN. But how did they do that in the past?
I beg to differ. I believe Aang has mastered waterbending and his bending status should be updated. Besides I dought that Katara will come up to Aang and say "Your a waterbending master now! Good for you!" The reflex statement is probably as good as it gets. Whats a question? 00:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Katara is a waterbending master right? Her appearence doesn't appear to have been changed. I still vote Aang as a waterbending master. And if he has to be promoted to master doesn't katara's reflex statement count? Whats a question? 00:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Dylan, I respect you and all but... Did you even finish reading my comment? Whatever. You win! Congratulations! Heres your new car! Yayy! =) Whats a question? 00:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Katara also makes the comment to Toph first when she begins to teach Aang that he responds well to positive reinforcement thereby suggesting she makes the comment about his reflexes purely as a motivational tool instead of actually saying that he is a master. Geolly 00:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
It sounds to me like Katara is saying that from experience the fact the he responds better to positive or negative reinforcement doesnt prove that he has mastered waterbending or not. Whats a question? 04:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I dunno about master, but I think we can list him as an expert in water bending, like we have for Zuko with Firebending. Should we change Earthbending, though? He had troubles with it at first, but since then he's used it comfortably in and out of combat. Keyblade Mage 22:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
Aang has been training with Katara on waterbending for how long now....... I mean we have seen how easy it is for Aang to learn waterbending some how I don't think he would take this long becoming a master when it comes so much easier to him than even Katara I mean we have all seen the episode The Waterbending Scroll. And just to bring this up we are never really exposed to his waterbending powers in the episodes which can make it hard for us to determine the case..... Perhaps he doesn't want to show up Katara or something loving her and all...... a thought —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.34.194 ( talk) 14:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
whats does aang's name mean? there is a chinese charcter for it i'm just curious what it means. Angelofdeath275 18:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
i don't think it 'means' anything.[[User:SxeFluff-- SxeFluff 15:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)]] 10:30, 18 october 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by SxeFluff ( talk • contribs)
May I suggest we change the main picture. All of the other characters have updated pictures that show them in season 2 but Aang's picture is still the same. I know he hasn't changed his appearance, but he has definetly matured over the series and it would be appropriate to show a better picture of him from season 2. -Wrestle593
Here is a good pictures of Aang. http://data.nickelodeon.nl/misc/dynimg/media/av_aang01.jpg User:pride, kinji
What the hell happened to Aang's old picture!!! When I clicked on his page, I almost had a heart attack (seriously). Please don't make him have a picture where he has big ears and that picture doesn't show that he has matured. He actually looks younger.
Don't worry about changing the picture till the start of the third season. It looks like everyone gets a new look. Aang even grows his hair into a style similar to Zuko.
Might it be time to change his picture? This one looks somewhat scary, and it doesn't provide the best summary of his character--it's a matter of opinion, obviously, but the image in the character profile box should probably be something different. The image can set the feel for the article, after all. And he has grown hair for the third season. Just suggesting.... Wikiswan 20:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyuuga-sama ( talk • contribs) 16:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
we should put the one when Aang grows hair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.110.195.204 ( talk) 21:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Do these characters really need their own sections under the Relationships header? I mean, they only appeared in one episode, probably never will again, and had no real lasting effect on the plot.-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 17:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
This is a very good point and has been seconded. With rumours that the show has been successful enough for a fourth season, these relationships will seem insignificant by the end. 202.72.187.152 17:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I posed a similar question on Zuko's page. I think we need to prune relationships as time progresses. Such that, Zuko and Song had an encounter but unless they have an encounter again their relationship is summarized on The Cave of Two Lovers and that should be enough. H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 23:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
After looking at the other characters I suggest we delete a few people in the relationships section. Many of them are just a small summary of the episode the minor character showed up in. I think we should limit the relationships to those who have interacted with the characters multiple times. Example would be that Iroh has no purpose on Toph's page (they met once and their meeting is summarized in The Chase) but Suki could stay on Sokka's due to two encounters having deep inner impacts on Sokka. However we'd also have to limit those characters who have had no real influence on the character in question, example being that Sokka has not influenced or done anything to affect Zuko and doesn't need to be on the page.
I think something like this needs to be done to allow the pages to be more direct. Lengthy does not necessarily mean its better. Discuss here. H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 08:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed several fair-use images per WP:FUC #3 and #8, as the images weren't subjects of commentary but merely decoration. We don't need images to identify other characters who have their own article (and thus an image there), and we don't need four different images of Aang. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 05:29, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
As you can plainly see, Aang's page has had those two stickers at the top saying the thing needs some major cleaning up. The thing is, I'm not exactly sure how to go about it. The other character pages seem to just have a great deal more information than this one and aren't too different in any other respects. Anyone got some really good suggestions? Y BCZ 22:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Call me crazy, but seeing that the Avatar Spirit is a part of Aang, it probubly should be here instead of being a minor charchter. The only place i can see it fitting is under "family" though. Cnriaczoy42 19:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I know I'm commenting like 2 months after, but it's still (kind of) relevant. I think these two articles should be seperate, since one is Aang and his stuff, and the other one, the Avatar Spirit, is a lot of people, including every other Avatar there has ever been. whatever, though. Bagpipeturtle 02:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Under Zuko's relationship description with Aang it states that he and Iroh could be Aang's firebending teachers. Though this is the most likely situation there is no actual facts backing it up. That is simply an opinion. Anyone could be Aang's firebending teacher so that sentence does not really have much merit. I suggest it should be deleted. Anyone agree?
Just to tell you poeple. (spoiler) In the 2nd part of the Invasion ZUKO confronts his dad and tell him that he is going to join the Avatar to stop the fire nation. Also (Spoiler) after zuko confronts his dad. Fire lord Ozi shoot lightling at zaku, suddenly zuko shoots it back.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.83.204.211 ( talk) 07:07, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
In The Guru, I'm not sure of what Guru Pathik actually called the seven parts of the body which must be released (the four elemental parts: Earth, water, fire, air, plus the throat, the sixth one, and earthly attachments), and to control the Avatar State. I have them down as gathiks for the time being. Is that right? If not, can someone change it to make it correct? Kochdude388 02:29, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
They are called chakras. :)-- Freespirit1981 01:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Alright, the finale's ending was downright evil, especially for we, the editors bent on keeping only factual information in the Avatar articles. Unfortunately even I'm not sure what to make of the end of Crossroads of Destiny. Aang enters the Avatar State, allowing the seventh chakra to flow and separating him from worldy connections (Katara). However, Azula strikes him down, and the symbolic representation of Aang conquering the seventh chakra collapses around him. I'm almost certain we're going to have to say that it's not certain what this means- Kataangers'll rampage on us if we say outright that Aang has let go of Katara, and for another thing we really don't know for sure what this means for the upcoming season.
What do you guys think? Y BCZ 02:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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I'm not going to touch any of the pages concerning what the ending could've meant, but I'll just state my opinions here.
Every account of the episode states that Aang was stuck by Azula before he could fully transform into the next-level Avatar State. However, the end suggests that at least some form of the Avatar State remains within him, but it's not the first time we've seen his tattoos glow in a non-AS fashion. They do that when he goes to the Spirit Realm and did that when he "saw through the trees" in The Swamp. Perhaps the 7th Chakra locked again since Aang wasn't able to fully transform, ridding him of the Avatar State but retaining his love for Katara. Or perhaps he truly did release the chakra, and now no longer loves Katara but is, practically speaking, all-powerful. Hell, perhaps the disruption of his transformation reset the AS to trigger when he's in critical danger or really pissed off (maybe it went as far as letting his chakras becoming clogged all over again).
Personally, I think that no matter the outcome, in the end Aang will regain the Avatar State and retain his love for Katara, obtaining the latter and then the former. I believe this because:
-It'd be pretty lame if he didn't get the AS back at some point.
-The writers are not simply going to make such a powerful relationship vanish into thin air like that.
-If you think about the nature of the chakras and the way they are represented in the show, to release one is not so much to rid oneself of the ability to feel whatever it is that blocks the chakra (if that were so, it would mean that upon releasing the 5th Chakra Aang wouldn't be able to lie, but he lied to Sokka about his progress with the Guru), but rather to not let it be a burden upon one's mind (as the Guru said: "life is messy" and sometimes the chakras get clogged with emotional baggage, and so that baggage must be let go so the chakras can flow cleanly). So if you look at it like that, releasing the 7th Chakra would still give Aang the ability to love Katara (and anything else that "attaches him to this world"), but he would have the wisdom to realize-and to constantly be aware-that as the Avatar he has duties that are infinitely more important than his personal affairs, and thus wouldn't let said affairs get in the way and affect his judgment.
Psydon 03:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
What's with 'Justin'? Seeing no proof, I went ahead and deleted it. 67.172.125.13 18:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Apparently it's been popping up on a whole bunch of Avatar related pages recently, it's just fluff. Delete it if it pops up again. JBK405 18:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
What do you guys think? Keep or no? Most of it is speculation, but other shows have done similar information on their Wikipages (example: Paranoia Agent). H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 15:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed the fact that Aang and the rest of the airbenders are/were reminiscent of Tibetan Monks? One dead giveaway (which I just added) is explained in the trivia section:
Tulku Lamas reincarnate as many times as they see fit. This is very similar to Aang’s situation. There are a lot more similarities between airbenders and Tibetan Buddhists, but I can’t think of any right now as I just got home from work (9pm – 5am). ( Ghostexorcist 11:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC))
I know it says grey and even in a bunch of pics. from book 1 he has grey, but they seem to be brown now (see the drill at the part when the camra zooms on aang's eyes while fighting azula). I could be seeing it differently, but what does everyone else think? Momoroxmysoxoff 18:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
The article has this as an alias, isn't it more of nickname? And isn't an alias a name you pass off as your own to hide your true idendity?-- Editmonkey 06:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Since when does Aang moves in superhuman speeds? Does that have something do to with minimazing the wind resistence or something? 201.17.63.235 17:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
He does it in The Blue Spirit, when he is going to get the cure for Sokka and Katara. - Exhibit A 17:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
It's seen in several other episodes, too. Though never explicitly explained in the series, it likely has something to do with decreasing wind resistance (As you said) or propelling himself with gusts of air. JBK405 19:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Pretty much what the official site says. ~ 66.250.190.115 10 January 2007 (UTC)
This is just a personal opinion but I think the relationships aren't really needed for the character pages. It seems since the relationship pages were created, it has only sprouted more controversy on what is considered a relationship, and what is merely fandom. Add on to that, with a future season coming, there's only going to be more increase to that particular section.
The character pages (Mainly Zuko's and Aang's) are far too long and the character relationships is the only reasonable thing to cut out. And I personally think there already enough on the pages without relationships, to give anyone enough insight on the characters. Lionheart08 20:48, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
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They aren't NEEDED, sure, but that's the same thing as how a cherry on top is not needed for a sundae; it improves the package on a whole, even though it is unnecessary. I think we should keep the Relationships sections; they act as very good complimentary passages to the Personality sections (showing them from alternate perspectives via their interactions with others).
Psydon 02:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I think the relationships should have something added because Katara actually kissed Aang in the solar eclipse part 1 so it isn't not fandom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.226.25 ( talk) 23:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Okay, you know how There is a 'Story' section on this page? well, these are the subsections: Book I: Water, Reawakening, Winter Solstice, Practicing Water, and Future deadline. I'd just like to point out that if you are going to put a Book I: Water, there really should be a Book 2: Earth section. I'd change it myself, but I didnt read the section recently and I don't really know where book one stops and book 2 begins in that section. And I have school, so I have to go to sleep. Bagpipeturtle 04:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I just integrated the trivia section as according to the tag that is on the page and an automayed comment on the peer review page. Why was my edit converted? -- Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 23:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm failing the GA nomination because:
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Knew we should've never gotten rid of those pictures. Well its these guys who are the ones flip-flopping anyway. But yeah, people have an subconscious little habit of failing to see the more figurative point of the show and sometimes just plain seem to forget that everything that goes on in it, every blink and twitch, is being coordinated by a team of people with pens and pencils. Anyway, may qualify as Aang's "conception"- [4] ~71.163.70.6 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I come by this site every so often because i enjoy watching this show, the animation is great and I think the story is very well told, having said this, i recently viewed the avatar: the last airbender: 'Aang' page and noticed that a couple of thing were odd, chiefly the use of the word 'fag' which appeard as Aang's name and also appeared in the throughout intro. Anyway, I don't want to judge, I do however think that if people are going to read this page that they should leave it as is unless it's relevant information. Vandalising pages on wikipedia can be fun, nonetheless, i would prefer reading this info without having to come by some stuff some bored guy wrote so he could have fun. Anyway, I edited the page a little so i hope it looks like it did originally before the derogitive terms were thrown about. Thats it for me all, and if you do see that kind of trash talk and find it offensive, do feel free to re-edit it and post a message like I did.
65.93.227.195 02:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)big fan of the show
All the time? theres gotta be something the site can do to stop that. Still i guess its that whole freedom of speach thing, and the right to edit.
There's not a lot that can be done, there's no way to tell who's going to vandalize an article before they do it. Exhibit A 18:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
---Yeah, but its just sad to come and read info on a site you trust and find that someone vandalised it just for fun.
---that sounds like a better idea, I didnt know you could block people from wikipedia.
Honestly, do we? I mean, its a a one time joke, I can pretty much guarantee they won't be using it again. I mean, OK, put it in the article somewhere, fine, but I just don't see that it needs to be in the infobox. Quite frankly, it makes the thing ugly.-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 19:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
While Aang might have been a bit goofy when picking such an unnecessarily amusing name for his alias, it was a serious attempt to obscure his identity and present a false name, which I'm pretty sure is what an alias is. It might not have been particularly successful, or even long-lasting, but it was an alias. JBK405 20:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Zuko was only called "Junior" in a single episode, and that was only as a joke, too, (Iroh obviously enjoyed it) but that alias is on his page, and the Blind Bandit, Dong, and Kua Mei are all on Toph and Katara's oages, despite likewise only being in single episodes. JBK405 21:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm quite sure that Iroh never used the nickname "Junior" other than in The Cave of Two Lovers, it was always Zuko when in private and Lee/Li (There seems to be confusion over which precise spelling) when in public (Or "My Nephew" or "Prince" or other such things). And yes, Dong and Kua Mei are the alias's Toph and Katara used when entering the Earth Kings party, and they're on the two character pages (And they have not been contested, as Bonzu has been). I think that frequency of use really shouldn't even be a factor here, because how much use a person gets out of something doesn't change what that something is; Bonzu was used as an alias of Aang and, even if it wasn't particularly effective, it still happened. JBK405 22:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
It's a questions of consistency, Fyre. Pure and simple. An alias is an alias regardless of when, why, or how it was used. Toph was only called the Blind Bandit in one episode, but it's an alias that all of us see as important because of its history. History is not important in defining an alias.
The nature of an alias is not of the essence, it only matters that it is, in fact, an alias. By definition. We can't exclude Bonzu simply because the name itself is somewhat silly. Mushi is somewhat silly as well, but it's still an alias. Used once or used often, it was used. Still in use or retired, they're still alias. We're not going to remove The Blue Spirit from Zuko even though he threw away the mask.
Bonzy needs to be kept for consistency, aliases need to be kept for organization. That's really the only thing that matters: consistency. We use all aliases or none at all. Being selective would be a double standard that is frowned upon.
What one THINKS of an alias's worth does not matter. That is an OPINION. All that matters is this: was it ever an alias in the context of the show? If the answer is yes, then we have ourselves a FACT which MUST be presented for the sake of CONSISTENCY regardless of how we FEEL about it. Sage of Ice 22:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
(un-indenting)We most assuredly can judge which facts are worthy of presentation. Truth is not Wikipedia's sole qualification for inclusion. We can indeed discuss this sort of issue and attempt to reach consensus. That's what talk pages are for.
Regardless, I'm not making a case that this should be completely omitted, I'm simply saying it doesn't need to be listed in the infobox. We don't list everything about a character in an infobox, so we're already making a judgment. We don't, for example, say Aang sometimes Airbends when he sneezes in the infobox. I could edit the infobox, add a field for "Things done while sneezing", but that wouldn't make sense. Why? Its just not important enough to mention there. Unless we wish to inculde the entire article in the infobox, we're already making judgments, one more is perfectly fine.-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 23:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh wow would ya look at all this. For that "harm good" bit, no not really. Yeah its not killing any puppies but its not particularly helping anything either. Seriously though, it was from the early days of the show, it was this little joke (along with the Kangaroo Island bit), and its just, eh. You'd think they'd make a reference to it by now. ~Father's Wish 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Since this has come up, let's give it its own little discussion corner, m'kay?
Personally, I vote that it be taken off. It's really not that important, and if you want the aliases in there so badly, we can stick them in the Trivia. Raven23 20:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I've moved the discussion on this subject to Template talk:Infobox Avatar: The Last Airbender character, the more proper place for discussing a change to the template.-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
If anyome deletes the "black hair" thing, they are wrong, because Aang has black hair. The S3V1 box art has been revealed and Aang has black hair. So please dont delete it. (RedwallFreak305, 7-10-07 9:55 pm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.133.79 ( talk • contribs)
Let's wait for a screenshot. While that DVD box is awesome (and Katara looks beautiful in it by the way), the background color causes a lot of darker shades and Aang could very well have brown hair but the red darkens it. Either way, currently he is bald and his hair color doesn't show anyway. H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 07:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Okay. We've seen Comic-Con and Aang's hair is still black. Can I change it now? (RedwallFreak305 July 29 2007 8:43 am) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.186.212 ( talk • contribs)
How can we discuss this?!?! There is a Book 3 preview out and its CLEARLY shown that Aang has BLACK hair. Now tell me thats not official enough. Its actual clips from the show. Wikipedia really has a couple of mourons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicoler1 ( talk • contribs)
You're color blind. Is that proof enough? PS why are you so desperate to prove we're wrong? (RedwallFreak305) (July 30 2007 10:32 am) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.186.212 ( talk • contribs)
Oh shut up!!! You're so annoying. You must be seriously color blind, idiot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicoler1 ( talk • contribs)
Oh...well its a pretty dark shade of brown, you have to admit. (RedwallFreak305) (9-8-07 3:05 pm CEN) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.100.227 ( talk) 20:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I have a screenshot; if anybody feels as if it should be the new picture' address me and i will put it.
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16:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)Pepe007
Could his image be changed from this: Avatar-book 1 Chapters 1 And 2 0003.jpg to this? [IMG] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Avatar_Is_Back_01.jpg[/IMG] It is more current and is also appropriate for the article. The current profile image is somewhat unsettling, too. Wikiswan 20:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC) Any opinions?
A haired picture of Aang might be more current, but his shaved visage is more appropriate. He's been bald for the entire series so far, and even if he keeps his hair until the end of the series it still won't last longer than his previous style. Additionally, it's more representative of who/what he is; it's the style of his people, as well as his personal preference, and the shaved/arrowed head has always been synonymous with "Avatar" (More than one scene has gone to an extreme close-up of his arrow when people realize who he is). I think we should keep this picture, or at least this style of picture, until something more drastic than new hair occurs; this article covers Aang's whole being, not just the newest and latest, and we need to keep a picture that's similarly all-encompassing. JBK405 02:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I might be wrong, but didn't Yue used her powers for Aang to make a bigger wave? It seemed to me that she opened her arms just before the wave got bigger. 189.4.246.93 20:46, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Without some form of confirmation, we'll never know. JBK405 20:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
The confirmation is in the clip and in logic. She raises her arms, and the wave grows even bigger. The moon is what pushes and pulls the tides--she's the moon. Unless there's some sort of logical argument against it, it is safe to assume that she was key in creating the wave. Wikiswan 23:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Er....Maybe if two people say it, it'll work. How about, " No"? Keyblade Mage 00:45, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
I don't know...I thought it was pretty obvious Yue was doing so. I mean, its not OR to say what we see in the show...-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 14:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Alright...Lemme chack out the episoide agian. Keyblade Mage 22:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
Oh.....Yeah, watching it agian, I gotta say, she definatly seemed to help him. But, you gotta admit, even before Yue helped him (if she helped him), that was still some pretty good Waterbending! Keyblade Mage 22:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
I am wondering if the current picture of Aang should be replaced with one that shows him with hair. We should at least include one in the article somewhere. Darth G 23:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I mentioned the issue two posts above. :) Wikiswan 23:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
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Should the information about Aang from the episodes not yet aired in the US but already aired in the UK be added here? Like his training section with Toph and Katara (specially when his use of Tophs vibration technique) or him being nervous during Nightmares and Daydreams? Other pages have been updated with significant info from those episodes. 201.17.28.73 00:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Simple answer: Yes. JBK405 03:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I've deleted "Firebender" twice now from Aang's list. Aang says himself in episode 309 - the most current episode to-date - that he doesn't even know the Firebending basics. Don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that that means he can't bend fire and thus isn't a Firebender. Until Aang does learn Firebending, please don't add it back again.
Harukaze
11:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I added info under 'spirit' about the previous reincarnations. If there is a better place for this info, please move it, but I have found no better spot within the avatar articles. I think that this is important info about who aang is, and since two of the previous avatars have only been seen in video games, it is important to have a hub for connecting their entries in one place —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.171.34.56 ( talk) 23:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I know this is a minor point but shouldn't this page be top level importance. (zuko's page is).
Ziphon 09:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Keep in mind, the importance scale is not just for the Avatar Wikiproject, it is for all of Wikipedia. Therefore, since Avatar: The Last Airbender is rated as Top (though even that may not be an appropriate rating), this article should be rated as it is since Aang is a character of the show. In addition, I do not know why Zuko is rated as Top. It should share the same rating, if not lower, as this article. If anybody objects to my argument, please say so. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 22:51, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I have heard about earlier complaints about too many pictures, but now the article has only three or four pictures! Is there any reason why we should not be using pictures that I am not aware about? Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 00:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Under the Kuzon section, it says he was mentioned by Aang to Sokka when discussing friends and enemies. But He told Zuko about Kuzon, not Sokka. I just saw the episode too, it was "The BLue Spirit". Mew Mitsuki 21:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
right, but still, he also mentioned him to zuko first, in The Blue Spirit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kataang editor ( talk • contribs) 03:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I am the GA reviewer for this article. If you have any questions, please leave them here or on my talk page. Regards, Daimanta 22:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
"Aang is a 112-year-old monk of the Air Nomads and the current reincarnation of the Avatar." The article almost immediatly jumps into the universe. Make it more gradual. Try to refer to the fact that this happens in the series. Regards, Daimanta 22:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Also, there is no explanation of "books". Make the reader know when the series starts. Regards, Daimanta 23:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
"When Prince Zuko arrived on Kyoshi Island, he realized that by staying too long he had endangered the people, it is here that Aang and his group learn they need to be constantly on the move"
It is unclear who "he" is. Please clarify that. Daimanta 01:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"While spending 100 years of his life in suspended animation, a war between the belligerent Fire Nation and the other more peaceful nations breaks out."
I am missing the context about the 4 nations, that needs to be clarified. Daimanta 01:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"Aang is briefly captured by the Yu Yan Archers under Admiral Zhao while collecting a remedy for his friends' illness."
This is the first mention of Zhao but there is explation given about him. Daimanta 01:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Please note: The article is under constant review. Regards, Daimanta 11:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"During one of their detours they land on Kyoshi Island (an island named after one of his incarnations), where they were captured by the Kyoshi Warriors;"
Again, it is unclear who "he" is. Daimanta 11:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"We still do not know if they actually kissed or not."
Remove the "we" and make it more neutral and encyclopedic. Daimanta 13:11, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The previous GA said : "
" I would also like to see this. Regards, Daimanta 15:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I was asked one final time to review this article. I have seen this article improve alot but unfortunately I still think that it's still not just ready for GA. There is no "concept and creation" part so it's just too in universe. Based on that aspect I say that it isn't GA just yet. But it's very close and making the improvements I pointed to will make it a fine GA article. Regards, Daimanta 23:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Is Kuzon really a notable alias. I mean obviously he used it as a disguise in an episode but does the usage of it make it that important? Just asking because the sidebar says "Notable Aliases", and I think that for an alias to be listed there, that it should be at least somewhat important. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 03:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
After it has aired [and may I stress that: after it has aired], could we get an image of the outfit seen in the two-part Day of Black Sun sequence? I think it would be a more appropriate image than the one currently in use as the main infobox picture. It seems to me that it is the best possible representation of Aang as the Avatar - it is the first time he is wearing traditional airbender garb that is not that of a student. It seems to be his own personal acknowledgement that he has "graduated", so to speak.
I'm bringing this up now, because I know people have copies of these episodes, and someone can probably screen capture one of them. We can't upload it yet, for legal reasons, but it would be nice to have ready for when we can. 春 Harukaze風 16:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Please note that I have requested and received semi-protected status for this page. The protection will stand for 18 days, until the actual airing of The Day of Black Sun episodes. As these two episodes were leaked and have not aired anywhere legally, we should not include content from those episodes on these pages.
I have seen varying release dates for these episodes overseas. The only "official" date I have seen for the UK is the 30th, like the US, but I have heard that the UK and Canada might see these episodes one week earlier, on the 23rd. If this is the case, I will request for these pages to be unlocked - US release, as one user pointed out, is not the original air date.
Until then, please, please do not make edits to these pages regarding the unaired content. They will be reverted. 春 Harukaze風 20:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I know this is being lazy and all, but instead of constantly having to archive this page (usually nobody remembers), we could put a bot on the page and have it automatically archive conversations older than, let's say, 21 days. We could use this bot to auto-archive the page, making sure to change to a different archive page after it has reached a certain size. Do I have anybody that agrees with me?
If anybody is willing to consider my proposal, all we need to do is post
{{User:MiszaBot/config|algo=old(21d) |archive=User talk:Aang/Archive %(counter)d |counter=1 |maxarchivesize= 250K |minthreadsleft=10 |minthreadstoarchive=5 |archiveheader={{talkarchive}}{{archive-nav|%(counter)d}}}}
Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 22:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
What I did was, I set up templates for an auto-archiving bot, an archive box, an auto-archive notice, and a bot that creates a page with links to every topic (topics are denoted by H2 headings, as always) in a nice, assorted list. I put comments around everything so it would not go into effect yet. All we need to do is remove the comments and its done (all of this is in the lead section of this page). Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 20:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey Parent5446, I think we might have a problem. The bot ran an archive, but it archived it to "/dev/null"... unixspeak for deleting it. There's no archive link under "archives" up at the top. I think it's just "gone" - though of course nothing is gonegone in Wikipedia, I'm still worried that the bot isn't functioning properly. Should I just sit on it for a few days, and wait to see what happens, or should we do something about this? 春・ Harukaze・風 20:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
It was sending them to /dev/null just because someone collapsed the whole template into a one-liner - sorry, it must be one parameter per line. Second, with the current setting of minthreadsleft = 10 it will take quite a while for this page to fill up to 10 threads before the bot acts. Миша 13 18:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I know that Roku is an ancestor of both of them, but should they really be classified as related? I'm sure that if you go far enough back through the Avatar cycle, that an Avatar is an ancestor of just about everyone on the planet (much like how JK Rowling says that nearly all wizards have similar ancestors). Should Zuko just go to relationships and Azula back down to enemies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.134.228 ( talk) 04:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
We really need to get this out of the way. The problem is that the article is too in-universe, as you may have noticed by the message box on the top of the article. It is holding the article down from going any further than it is now. In addition, with the spoilers that some people are adding, it is becoming even harder. However, I think we should try and collect some ideas on what we should do. Just look around for something, maybe even give a source or two of something we could put in. Post anything that will be useful. Hopefully we will enlarge the amount of out-of-universe information. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 02:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Aang's journey begins with a simple quest to learn the other three elements as his Avatar status guides him to do. However, in " The Winter Solstice", Aang discovers that he must defeat Fire Lord Ozai before the end of next year's summer, or the Fire Nation will use the power of a special comet named Sozin's comet to win the war, just like they used it one hundred years ago to start the war. [1] In " The Library", Aang learns that his deadline might be even earlier as his best chance at defeating the Fire Lord would be during an upcoming solar eclipse, during which all Firebenders will no longer be able to use their Firebending abilities. [2] By this time, he has already started to learn Waterbending from Katara, who learned after an interesting conflict in " The Siege of the North", and Earthbending from Toph, who the gang ran in to at an Earthbending tournament in " The Blind Bandit". [3] [4] As for Firebending, Aang still does not have a trainer, though he has tried to find one many times (almost succeeding in " The Deserter"). [5] As the day of the solstice starts to close in, and the planned invasion is just days away, Aang starts to go delusional in " Nightmares and Daydreams", before finally resting for the next day, which will be revealed in " The Day of Black Sun". [6] [7]
I agree. The relationships section is very important. SkepticBanner ( talk) 02:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll copy the relationships section to the Avatar Wiki in that case. SkepticBanner ( talk) 05:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not leaving Wikipedia because Admins are removing a lot of important information. I'll go to the edit history, copy it, then paste in in the Avatar Wikia. SkepticBanner ( talk) 02:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The relationship sections have to go. They're just such a minefield of fanwank and speculation. Don't get it wrong, like ya said, relationships are a big thing in this show, but why do you need to dedicate an entire paragraph overanalyzing something that was effectively touched on in less than two sentences in another section? Then there's how the term "relationship" is skewed. I've seen people jump up to cite how Sokka and Zuko or Toph and Azula have a "relationship" simply because they exchanged dialog just once, and dontcha just love how Katara had a relationship with Zuko before they had any substantial interaction? Rhymes with Sutara. They don't all have to go, just the redudant, obviously stretched out ones. Things like Aang and Zuko or the inevitable Aang and Katara fluff are explicitly the foundations of the show. Then there's less vital but still significant stuff like Toph and Sokka or Toph and Katara. But as for everything else. Yeah we all know Toph doesn't like flying but thats about it, no offense towards Appa. Aside from the explicit fact that they're friends, she's his teacher and the rough patches that had in the beginning, Aang and Toph really don't interact all that much. And for God's sake "Iroh and Zhao?" I liked that one part in the first season finale too but comon.
The relationship sections started out as a good idea, but ovetime it, like so, so many other Avatar articles, has just become an engine for the numerous Avatards online to dump every single little thing they see in an episode. Why we all get off to junk like that, who really knows? Abridgement. As for Avatar wiki, god no. Seriously though that (thing's) a joke. Fathers Wish II 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is the History section back? I down-sized it for a reason and now it is back. Is anybody at least looking at the talk page or reviewing previous edits (or reading the MoS) before blindly making edits. The history section should not be in this article as this article is about a fictional character. This information is already, or should already be, in Avatar: The Last Airbender. This is not a biography. The most this should have is Concept and Creation (which has not yet gone int existence), Characteristics, and MAYBE a brief paragraph on his role in the show. THAT IS IT! I am going to remove it once more. If you have any arguments, post them here. I am not in the mood (nor do I have the time to wait out a block) to have an edit way. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 17:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC) It's a little bit better. (Please note the timestamp on the above comment is wrong as my browser took a long time to submit it.) The most we need now is references in the history section and we need a concept and creation section. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 18:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
According to WP:LEAD, this section should be able to give all the necessary basic info a reader needs to understand the topic. If the lead section was the only thing in the article, then it should be able to tell the reader the basics at the least. This means that if something is mentioned in the sidebar, it can be mentioned again in the lead section, especially if it describes a voice. Think about it this way, since the main voice is also in the sidebar, should we remove that too? No. As for the other info, it deserves to be there because, even though the information should be in the history section, it should be in the lead too because, as previously said, the lead is a general outlook on the rest of the article. Finally, the lead is small enough. According to WP:LEAD, it should be three to four paragraph for this article, while we have about half a paragraph. Please do not revert the edits anymore. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 21:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Again, I reiterate that mentioning Katara and Sokka invites a laundery listing of his current companions and pets. Would you support mentioning Appa, Momo and Toph?
Regarding mention of Musso's role, I refer to precedent set in other featured articles. In the comparable fictional character article Amidala Grey Delisle's significantly smaller contribution to the character is confined to the sidebar, while and her name is not mentioned in the lead at all, despite the fact that Clone Wars actually aired for a wide cable television audience. In Jason Voorhees only Kane Hodder, his most well known portrayer, merits mention in the lead, in contrast with his veritable army of sucessors. We really should aspire to that level of concision. -- Buinne 22:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I was incorrect in my above statement regarding television character articles. Apart from the fourteen catagorized as good, Troy McClure, Nikki and Paulo, and Bernard Quatermass are all featured television character articles that we can stylistically draw from ETA: Long running Eastender's lead Pauline Fowler too -- Buinne 00:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Since the end of Day of Black Sun Pt. 2, and Zuko's decision to join Aang, dosen't that mean that Aang just found himself a firebending teacher? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.116.27 ( talk) 14:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
The Western Air Temple has aired in Canada, Zuko will teach Aang, you can watch it at youtube. 189.32.153.180 ( talk) 16:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Heading off any well-intended reversions, I would like to note in-sidebar that Musso appeared in the "original pilot." Like Billy West as Zim in Invader Zim, Musso had a one-time role in a "production pilot," shown to the network as a prototypical pitchreel for the series and never intended for air. After funding was secured, the "broadcast pilot" ie. "Boy in the Iceberg" was developed.-- Buinne ( talk) 23:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Where applicable, character article leads will mention the character's most emphasized and developed relationship(s) in a series. Like say, Star Wars' Amidala: wife of Anakin, mother of Luke & Leia. Lost's Boone Carlyle: helper and protegé of John Locke. CSI's Sara Sidle: long fan-shipped, finally canon and now ex paramour of fellow principal Gil Grissom. See that last one? It brings up an issue. In the lead, should we even mention, however briefly, Aang and Katara's budding romance, let alone meta anticipation for it? The kiss would seem to render it canon, after seasons of tease. But is the opportunity for wank too great?-- Buinne ( talk) 03:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Are we supposed to include summaries for the books? From what I've read in the talk page it sounds like the book summaries aren't needed. When I arrived at the article three hours ago, the summaries for books 1 2 3 are on the page, so I thought they're supposed to be there and just waiting for people to touch up and expand. I expanded Books 2 and 3, and after reading the talk page, I've cropped out plenty of unnecessary details in Books 1 and 2. They're both complete now, that is, I've looked through all episodes in both books and picked out the important details involving Aang. Certain episodes are not mentioned, because they're not needed. By "book summaries", I mean plot points directly involving Aang only. I didn't resummarise Book 3 since the entire book isn't out yet. I hope the summaries are good enough. I don't think anymore plot details are needed. -- Secretss ( talk) 15:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that we have spent just a little bit too much time on the summaries. They are very important, but we really need to concentrate on putting in a concept and creation section. Does anybody have any ideas? Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 19:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Quick-failed - no sources outside the show, a problem which, IIRC, was brought up in the last GAN. At its current state, it clearly fails criteria 1a. The page should have its fictional summary cut and the creation in. Will ( talk) 23:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
i've seen several articles about the characters in the show, and some of the are longer (notably zuko's) than aang's. shouldn't we give more depth in this article? after all, aang is the major protagonist in the show. Tye blue ( talk) 10:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
do we have one wre can repalce the character image, one from the 3rd book, i suggest we update all the pictures to 3rd book.-- Cody6 ( talk) 14:14, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Why was the entire Relationships section of Aangs article removed? 189.32.153.180 ( talk) 16:14, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
The relationship section is important to the character section. It explains how the characters are influenced. Besides people like reading them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiimanwii1 ( talk • contribs) 05:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Erm, maybe it would be a good idea to point out that this is Wikipedia, not a fan site. After all, Avatar: The Last Airbender is fictional. And Wikipedia has really strict guidelines. I mean, there has to be a difference between a fan page and a wikipedia article, right? A line has got to be drawn somewhere. Maybe when you're just looking at this wiki article you don't see why certain information are not included here, but perhaps if you hold wiki on one hand and a fan page on the other you can make a comparison. People who are really interested in knowing tiny details about fictional characters would google for fan sites instead of coming to wikipedia. Just my two cents. -- Secretss ( talk) 07:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Re: The issue of Aang being fatally injured versus killed by Azula's lightning in book 2. I know this has been discussed on Katara's talk page before, but it seems more appropriate here. The sentence in the article has been changed quite a few times already from fatally injured to killed and now it's back to fatally injured. Currently it says "fatally wounded to the point where his spirit separates". IMO, that is probably the most appropriate phrase if you take into account the animated graphic novel on the dvd. Does anybody have an opinion about this? If we can find a good compromising sentence we can add a comment in the edit box requesting no more changes. Maybe the creators purposely left this issue ambiguous to confuse us wiki editors =S I personally have no idea what to think. I can't tell if he was injured or killed. What do you guys think?-- Secretss ( talk) 10:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I think, given the currently available information, we can't figure out if Aang actually died. The fact that his spirit and body separated seems to indicate he died, but that seems to happen even when he's alive and well. Consequently, I'd suggest removing both "fatally injured" and "killed." Instead, the article could simply say, "Azula struck Aang down with lightning." Whether Aang died or not is irrelevant to the plot and should be decided by the viewer. b.y.w ( talk) 04:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, why was the Bending section butchered out? 189.32.157.17 ( talk) 22:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I suggest we remove it, it's just another extension of what Wikipedia is not. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 20:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Whoever wanted the further reading section to be checked out according to WP:FANSITE, you do not need to worry. The page does not say much about fansites (it redirects to Wikipedia:External links), but as far as I'm concerned, the two sites qualify to be in that section because according to WP:GTL#Further reading, the section in question is for sources that have not necessarily been used in the article as a citation but contain valuable information relating to the subject, which they do. In addition, going back to WP:FANSITE, the links are not advertisments, do not install malware, do not require registration, or anything else like that. In fact, it might be considered that these links should be in the article because according to WP:EL#What should be linked, the web sites currently in use have "meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews." Luckily, I think the case is closed that the two sites, though they are fansites, do give reliable information that is not used in the article (or at least not all of it is used), and therefore does not need to be removed. Feel free to object in any way because I might have missed something. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 14:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I know a lot of the editors of this page have migrated to the new season pages (especially Avatar: The Last Airbender (Season 3)), but I just want to ask anybody that is still here what the point of half the information in the "Avatar" section is. All that is there is one or two statements of Aang's avatar abilities and then a paragraph or two of plot summaries elaborating on it. Couldn't we just integrate the statements into another section and get rid of the repetitive plot summaries? Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 00:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted Parent5446's removal of the section, mainly because not all of it is a repeat of the previous summary:
The main reason that the template at the top of the article states a need for additional references is because all of the references are from within the show. I think that, even though it doesn't actually add additional sources, if all the current references to the show are linked to their appropriate summaries at [avatarspirit.com Avatar Spirit] (along with a link to the transcript page) as done with some of the references, the citations might be able to be considered tertiary or at least secondary sources; this would make the references more reliable and thus removing some of our referencing problem to the point where we do not need to have it on the template at the top of the article. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 04:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
May I just ask, in response to User:Sesshomaru's comment, where the other format of quotation is? In response to your second comment, I agree, I'll see what can do to change the case of every occurence. As for the links, I'll look over it and see what I can do. If you have any specific examples for anything, please mention it below because I might miss it myself and then the mistake remains in the article. Thanks for the advice. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 18:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
In Creation and conception, Characteristics and Bending, the text of the quotes are very small. Is there anything better than {{ cquote}}? Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 17:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Can you check if the words firebending, airbending, waterbending, and earthbending are overlinked? Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 04:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I apologize for that edit. It wasn't until now that I realized what the difference was (the comma that the template puts in). I'll undo my edit. Sorry for any confusion. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 03:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
An anonymous user keeps on adding material to the 'conception' section and citing it with a link to the main avatar page. Wikipedia is not a source. I will continue to remove this information until they provide a reference for some outside material. I hope others will do the same. -- Ghostexorcist ( talk) 00:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, for anybody that monitors this article, here is what is going to happen. The article has come a long way since its last review. It now has a creation and conception information along with other good stuff. In addition, the plot summaries have been seriously toned down by a visit from some angel-like author who copy-edited the article and gave it a chance. Anyway, the article is currently a candidate at WP:ACID. When Wednesday comes, and the article becomes the article of the week for the Article Improvement and Collaboration Drive, we will wait to see if anybody brings any more constructive edits. If so, we'll wait until the article's week is up and the next article goes into WP:ACID. If not, we'll start immediately. What do I mean by "we'll start immediately"? I mean we will hopefull hold out last nomination for GA status. Until that time, please make any last minute preparations you may have because I really want the article to pass. Best of luck. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 22:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
There was a game on Nick.com that had to do with the previous avatars in the spirit world. The game focused on Aang and exists in canon with the show. Should the events of the games be chronicled here, seeing as they did happen to Aang? Rau J16 03:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Wow, I am usually against wikis that only exist to catch the spillover of info that was rejected from Wikipedia, but on the Avatar wiki there is a detailed plot on the whole game. Too bad the game has no real-life importance to qualify as an article on Wikipedia. The link is here. I'll see what I can put in for now. But we might need better references. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 23:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
To tell you the truth, it is more proper to put it at the bottom. However, there is no policy, guideline, essay, or manual of style that says anything about it and the section is too small to be in its own level 2 heading section. In conclusion, it just plain looks better where it is. The only way it would look better at the bottom is if we could find any more information to put in it. Right now, I know I've looked, but if you can find any more reliable sources for that section and enlarge the section, then it can moved back. As for Walter (the edit war user), I contacted Placebo because I know he is involved with the project and he is an admin. If he does not respond, the user is still reported on WP:AN/3RR. Hopefully, this will all end before Wednsday because articles with edit disputes cannot be put on WP:ACID. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 03:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Walter Mellon Head has been blocked indefinitely so I do not think he will be interrupting us anymore. The page is currently in request for semi-protection, but it might fail since the user is now blocked. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 03:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
The best part of it all is that according to WP:3RR, if he makes another account and comes back or just starts editing anonymously, we can revert him as many times as we want. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 15:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I tried playing that Escape From the Spirit World game and I couldn't get past level 1. The game got stuck at the Aang On challenge so we will have to use external sources for more info. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 18:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Yea see, the game, although avatar canon, is not that good. Hopefully someone else can give it a shot and beat it, im going to try again when i have more time (probably in school). But YAY! for the reverts!! Rau J16 19:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
TIME OF POSTING: 20:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
CURRENT TIME: 01:26 2024-1-08 UTC PURGE
ACID NOM: 00:00 2008-02-20 UTC Finished at: 23:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
GA NOM: 00:00 2008-02-21 UTC Finished at: 21:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Feel free to change dates or time as this is not official, but please write your reason below. Once a deadline has arrived, cross it out. Hopefully our fourth GA nomination will be successful. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 20:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Believe it or not, Aang has finally passed and is a GA.
Thanks to all who contributed! Limetolime ( talk) 17:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
There have been certain complaints on the tense of the article. I think it says somewhere in WP:MoS that tense should be kept consistent. This rules should be standard anyway, MoS or not. Either way, I am not sure whether to put the whole article in present tense or past tense. I think we should put it in past tense since the episodes, etc. already happened. However, I wanted to discuss it first before changing tense just to have it changed back. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 02:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Been wanting to ask about this. I know there once were the "Characters introduced in [year]" cats, but Avatar State is in a introductory cat so what's the deal here? Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 06:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
In response to a request to do so, I've done some copyediting. These have all been minor stylistic changes, aimed at shorter sentences -- roughly limiting them to three ideas, qualifications or asides per sentence.
More general peer review comments are the following. This is a solidly and broadly researched entry. There is admirable, controlled interaction with critical analysis. Quotes and references to the creators' intentions are outstanding content for the article. Synopsis of plot is also admirably restrained.
In fact, there is so much good material, presented so concisely, with substantial sources, that it invites expansion. Overall, the feel of the prose is, I think rightly, slightly clipped, energetically and economically progressing content with each sentence. I think this is exemplary for encyclopedic style.
The only quibble I have with the entry is three underdeveloped allusions to vegetarianism and Buddhism. Perhaps this is due to sources not really developing the point. Either these need fuller treatment (maybe even a Cultural Milleu section), or they should be dropped, as true and verifiable material, but tangential to the main thrust of the article, and of the sections that contain them. My advice is, "develop or drop" this point.
Finally, I concur with current GA status. Regarding FA, this depends on personal philosophy. My feeling is some entries ought to be short and shouldn't really be expected to be FA (after the analogy of lists etc.). Given my ignorance of the topic area, I really don't know if this is an article that could accumulate enough content to be considered for FA, or whether it should stand as a fine example of a GA that knows its limitations -- it's brilliance is shown by its brevity.
Thanks to those who have provided this article. Best wishes to all who work to develop it further. Cheers. Alastair Haines ( talk) 23:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
We have a picture maybe of aang in his monk robes for the article?-- Jakezing ( talk) 02:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be in the Avatar: The Last Airbender section? It doesn't make much sense for a character to have a plot synopsis or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.224.134 ( talk) 02:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm just curious as to why there isn't anything about the Avatar State. It's a very important aspect of the series. I would put it in, but I'm just starting. I don't know how to add a new option in the info box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Holymasterchief ( talk • contribs) 02:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Considering the main article links to this page as the one about the avatar state, I think it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.243.165 ( talk) 05:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't it important? The Avatar State is the only way to defeat the Fire Lord, and Aang used it many times, as did past Avatars. So why isn't it important? Holymasterchief ( talk) 16:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm certain that separate article in the Avatar state is outta the question. So, mentioning the Avatar state is not too much to ask for yes? 75.72.221.194 ( talk) 22:10, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Should Aang get a bending section based on his skill with firebending, earthbending, waterbending and airbending, his status as a bridge between the Spirit World and Earth, and the Avatar State or something. Elemental5293 ( talk) 16:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Toph always used to call him "Twinkletoes." (due to her naming him that based on his fighting style of rarely staying on the ground when they first met in the Earth Rumble VI tournament) Actually, I don't think she ever called him Aang in the second season! Since Zuko has "Zu-Zu," mentioned about twelve times, at most, shouldn't Aang get "Twinkletoes?" Krem Tell me stuff ♫Whaaaat I've Doooonne!♪ 19:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I just included a section with short descriptions about Aang learning the 4 elements and his other skills, such as energybending. I know it's a given that the Avatar learns the 4 elements, but to the newcomer they won't know that. I justify the section's inclusion because otherwise it's unbalanced that the other characters have descriptions of their skills and Aang, the titular character, doesn't have anything. Also please don't expand on it too much if you don't have to. I tried to keep the section short and to the point to keep in flow with the other character pages. I'll cite references in that section soon. MisterZeppo ( talk) 06:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Since he spent about the whole series crushing on Katara, it seems apropriate that the fact he did end up with her be mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.58.192 ( talk) 00:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Why is it, that while pretty much everyone else gets a new portrait, Aang is still, still, stuck with that same old, eternal, butt-ugly pic? 84.250.246.11 ( talk) 15:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Photoshopping is always fun. I noticed that the staff was extremely long, and would make Aang's body really small if we were to fit the entire staff into the box. Therefore, its removal would have been best. I claim WP:IAR if there is a policy against it - since photoshopping increases the article's quality. :) -- haha169 ( talk) 17:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Either that or the explosion with Momo should be removed. Either way, one has to be because they don't really give much to the article. I propose a discussion here before removal. -- haha169 ( talk) 01:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Folks let's settle this once and for all: does he belong here or not? If so, there should be references that suggests so. If you ask me, using wind for quick maneuvering is not super speed. This is why Storm has not been placed in the category. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 18:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Look, okay, Aang has BLACK HAIR. You'd have to be blind to no be able to see it. I would've changed it, but it said to discuss it here first. So there, he's obviously black-haired. -- SuperFlash101 ( talk) 18:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Look guys, the reason why Aang's hair color is listed as dark brown is because of this image: [7] I think it's that one, may have been a different one from the same magazine though. - Dylan0513 ( talk) 17:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
(unindent) Capitalization matters grammatically. I have no idea why he changed which is first. - Dylan0513 ( talk) 02:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
For a discussion about in the inclusion of Aang and Katara romantic relationship, please see Katara's talk page. NuclearWarfare contact me My work 15:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Based on a poster in the 17th episode of Book 2 which was intended to look for Appa, the poster reads
The 4th line "降世神通安昂" clearly shows "Avatar Aang". So I guess we could include the name "安昂" for Aang.-- Tricia Takanawa ( talk) 16:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Aren't they black? -- Dramartistic ( talk) 00:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Is there anyway we can change the lead photo back to the stock picture that used to grace the page? The currently picture just looks so unnatural. I don't know too many 12-year-olds that are rocking a six pack. (Yes, I have seen little kids that were so skinny you could see their abs, but the picture is drawn with muscular abs.) I also think the background is too distracting. The original picture was just fine. -- Ghostexorcist ( talk) 22:03, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh I got you now! I thought you wanted the other way around. Jhenderson 777 18:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
OK, we have a bit of a problem. The caption for the photo in the Plot overview section has a link for the words "Avatar State". While I agree it should be linked, as many readers will not know what the Avatar State is, the link actually redirects to the Series overview section of the main article, where there is not any clearly discernible information about the Avatar State. We either need to link it somewhere else or explain what the Avatar State is inline. Any thoughts?
That's the best information we have so far. But like I said I strongly encourage a Abilities section, possiby a sub section of the Characteristics section. Because that does explain some of his abilities. Jhenderson 777 22:48, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not a wikipedia user, but I wanted to tell you that in the Avatar disambiguation page, the links leads directly here instead to the Avatar: The Last Airbender page. For a while I thought the two articles had been merged, and I'm pretty sure it must've happened to someone else. It would be best if that link redirected the other page instead don't you think? -- 200.125.83.181 ( talk) 03:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
In the sequal series to Avatar: The Last Airbender, Aang and Katara have a son, Tenzin. Link: http://lytherus.com/2010/12/16/avatar-the-legend-of-korra/. 142.26.194.190 ( talk) 16:03, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
In the infobox, shouldn't we change "Protagonist" to "Main Protagonist" not to be confused with other protagonists (Toph, Suki, etc). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.64.182.93 ( talk) 02:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I did remove a category saying that he has lightning abilities but I am deciding to discuss it first. Last I knew he could only redirect lightning and I am not sure that should count. What do other editors think about that? Jhenderson 777 19:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I removed the line:
It cites no references and sounds like personal opinion. It carries the same weight as speculation that he was assassinated by Amon's agents. Sings-With-Spirits ( talk) 12:22, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
As is customary for many Wikipedia articles, the first instance of the word Avatar links to the default Avatar article. However, it is not the fictional character cycle that is part of the cartoon show. It directs to the idea in Hindu culture. I did not want to remove it in case that such a link is warranted, but it seems to me that such a connection is only an allusion on the creator's part to use the term for Aang and his predecessors/successors. Should the link be removed, since it directs to an article that's not directly related to the subject matter of Aang's article?-- 134.129.205.102 ( talk) 22:06, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I have removed name from the alias section since an alias is a fake name used by a person to hide their identity. It has nothing to do with nick names used by other people to make fun of the person. Here is a link to dictionary.com to prove my point [ [9]] which proves that a nickname used by Toph regarind Anng is does not meet the definition of an alias.-- 70.49.81.140 ( talk) 05:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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3 images, 40 citations, still reads in-universe information by a characters, needs out of world perspective. JJ98 ( Talk) 10:22, 31 October 2014 (UTC) |
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Shouldn't this be updated since The Legend of Korra confirmed that the Avatar is a human fused with the light spirit, Rava? 68.188.56.8 ( talk) 00:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Given that the most common usage of 'significant other' confers a sexual or romantic hint to a relationship, on the talk page for Korra, I'm proposing that we add a new category(or categories) to list characters with whom she clearly has a intimate and important relationship, but not a romantic one. In the interests of consistency, I'm bringing this here as well, as I think this article's infobox could also benefit from this sort of change. As important as Appa is, I don't think many people would call him Aang's significant other. Feel free to participate in the discussion there. Cannolis ( talk) 03:33, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
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Since the whole series took place in under a year how can he be 113-114 in book 3. Eberhard513 ( talk) 00:01, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
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I'd like to talk to the editor of the articles regarding the Avatar series. Please reply with your email, thanks a lot! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.42.23.112 ( talk • contribs) 20:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I would really like to add one character description to the Aang page. It was for Toph, Aang's new friend from Avatar. Avatarblade
==Sozin vs. Sozen== Sozin is spelled Sozen. I have proof
But where is it comming from( abook or so) --195.85.191.218
According to google trends, Zuko is more searched for than Aang Sokka and Katara. Aang comes in second, with Katara in third. 71.232.171.189 22:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC) That's really not that all surprising. H2P 05:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
You shouldn't say he has no hair, you should say his head is shaved. Mace Windu (Star Wars) has no hair, but they stated that his head is shaved. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.4.79.82 ( talk • contribs) 07:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
HE DOES HAVE HAIR! IN THE EPISODE "TALES OF BA SING SAE" HE SHAVES HIS HAIR. IN SEASON THREE HE HAS DARK BROWN HAIR.
Well I guess we just got this question answered :-P H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 07:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
In the episode, 'Tales of Ba Sing Se', we see the group getting ready for the day and Aang is seen shaving his head.
They could just destroy the hair roots so hair doesn't grow. Xenero 18:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC) but then how do you explain him having black/brown hair in season 3?
i AGREE. HE DOES HAVE HAIR! IN THE EPISODE "TALES OF BA SING SAE" HE SHAVES HIS HAIR. IN SEASON THREE HE HAS DARK BROWN HAIR.
I was just wondering if Aang has become a waterbending master? Katara mentioned in "Bitter Work" that he has the reflexed of a waterbending master. Does this mean he's mastered it?
Shouldn't you guys update the part regarding Aang's bending abilities? I mean he's already pretty good (though not a master) in waterbeding and in earthbending, as we've seen in SOFN. But how did they do that in the past?
I beg to differ. I believe Aang has mastered waterbending and his bending status should be updated. Besides I dought that Katara will come up to Aang and say "Your a waterbending master now! Good for you!" The reflex statement is probably as good as it gets. Whats a question? 00:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Katara is a waterbending master right? Her appearence doesn't appear to have been changed. I still vote Aang as a waterbending master. And if he has to be promoted to master doesn't katara's reflex statement count? Whats a question? 00:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Dylan, I respect you and all but... Did you even finish reading my comment? Whatever. You win! Congratulations! Heres your new car! Yayy! =) Whats a question? 00:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Katara also makes the comment to Toph first when she begins to teach Aang that he responds well to positive reinforcement thereby suggesting she makes the comment about his reflexes purely as a motivational tool instead of actually saying that he is a master. Geolly 00:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
It sounds to me like Katara is saying that from experience the fact the he responds better to positive or negative reinforcement doesnt prove that he has mastered waterbending or not. Whats a question? 04:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I dunno about master, but I think we can list him as an expert in water bending, like we have for Zuko with Firebending. Should we change Earthbending, though? He had troubles with it at first, but since then he's used it comfortably in and out of combat. Keyblade Mage 22:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
Aang has been training with Katara on waterbending for how long now....... I mean we have seen how easy it is for Aang to learn waterbending some how I don't think he would take this long becoming a master when it comes so much easier to him than even Katara I mean we have all seen the episode The Waterbending Scroll. And just to bring this up we are never really exposed to his waterbending powers in the episodes which can make it hard for us to determine the case..... Perhaps he doesn't want to show up Katara or something loving her and all...... a thought —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.34.194 ( talk) 14:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
whats does aang's name mean? there is a chinese charcter for it i'm just curious what it means. Angelofdeath275 18:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
i don't think it 'means' anything.[[User:SxeFluff-- SxeFluff 15:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)]] 10:30, 18 october 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by SxeFluff ( talk • contribs)
May I suggest we change the main picture. All of the other characters have updated pictures that show them in season 2 but Aang's picture is still the same. I know he hasn't changed his appearance, but he has definetly matured over the series and it would be appropriate to show a better picture of him from season 2. -Wrestle593
Here is a good pictures of Aang. http://data.nickelodeon.nl/misc/dynimg/media/av_aang01.jpg User:pride, kinji
What the hell happened to Aang's old picture!!! When I clicked on his page, I almost had a heart attack (seriously). Please don't make him have a picture where he has big ears and that picture doesn't show that he has matured. He actually looks younger.
Don't worry about changing the picture till the start of the third season. It looks like everyone gets a new look. Aang even grows his hair into a style similar to Zuko.
Might it be time to change his picture? This one looks somewhat scary, and it doesn't provide the best summary of his character--it's a matter of opinion, obviously, but the image in the character profile box should probably be something different. The image can set the feel for the article, after all. And he has grown hair for the third season. Just suggesting.... Wikiswan 20:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyuuga-sama ( talk • contribs) 16:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
we should put the one when Aang grows hair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.110.195.204 ( talk) 21:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Do these characters really need their own sections under the Relationships header? I mean, they only appeared in one episode, probably never will again, and had no real lasting effect on the plot.-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 17:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
This is a very good point and has been seconded. With rumours that the show has been successful enough for a fourth season, these relationships will seem insignificant by the end. 202.72.187.152 17:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I posed a similar question on Zuko's page. I think we need to prune relationships as time progresses. Such that, Zuko and Song had an encounter but unless they have an encounter again their relationship is summarized on The Cave of Two Lovers and that should be enough. H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 23:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
After looking at the other characters I suggest we delete a few people in the relationships section. Many of them are just a small summary of the episode the minor character showed up in. I think we should limit the relationships to those who have interacted with the characters multiple times. Example would be that Iroh has no purpose on Toph's page (they met once and their meeting is summarized in The Chase) but Suki could stay on Sokka's due to two encounters having deep inner impacts on Sokka. However we'd also have to limit those characters who have had no real influence on the character in question, example being that Sokka has not influenced or done anything to affect Zuko and doesn't need to be on the page.
I think something like this needs to be done to allow the pages to be more direct. Lengthy does not necessarily mean its better. Discuss here. H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 08:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed several fair-use images per WP:FUC #3 and #8, as the images weren't subjects of commentary but merely decoration. We don't need images to identify other characters who have their own article (and thus an image there), and we don't need four different images of Aang. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 05:29, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
As you can plainly see, Aang's page has had those two stickers at the top saying the thing needs some major cleaning up. The thing is, I'm not exactly sure how to go about it. The other character pages seem to just have a great deal more information than this one and aren't too different in any other respects. Anyone got some really good suggestions? Y BCZ 22:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Call me crazy, but seeing that the Avatar Spirit is a part of Aang, it probubly should be here instead of being a minor charchter. The only place i can see it fitting is under "family" though. Cnriaczoy42 19:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I know I'm commenting like 2 months after, but it's still (kind of) relevant. I think these two articles should be seperate, since one is Aang and his stuff, and the other one, the Avatar Spirit, is a lot of people, including every other Avatar there has ever been. whatever, though. Bagpipeturtle 02:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Under Zuko's relationship description with Aang it states that he and Iroh could be Aang's firebending teachers. Though this is the most likely situation there is no actual facts backing it up. That is simply an opinion. Anyone could be Aang's firebending teacher so that sentence does not really have much merit. I suggest it should be deleted. Anyone agree?
Just to tell you poeple. (spoiler) In the 2nd part of the Invasion ZUKO confronts his dad and tell him that he is going to join the Avatar to stop the fire nation. Also (Spoiler) after zuko confronts his dad. Fire lord Ozi shoot lightling at zaku, suddenly zuko shoots it back.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.83.204.211 ( talk) 07:07, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
In The Guru, I'm not sure of what Guru Pathik actually called the seven parts of the body which must be released (the four elemental parts: Earth, water, fire, air, plus the throat, the sixth one, and earthly attachments), and to control the Avatar State. I have them down as gathiks for the time being. Is that right? If not, can someone change it to make it correct? Kochdude388 02:29, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
They are called chakras. :)-- Freespirit1981 01:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Alright, the finale's ending was downright evil, especially for we, the editors bent on keeping only factual information in the Avatar articles. Unfortunately even I'm not sure what to make of the end of Crossroads of Destiny. Aang enters the Avatar State, allowing the seventh chakra to flow and separating him from worldy connections (Katara). However, Azula strikes him down, and the symbolic representation of Aang conquering the seventh chakra collapses around him. I'm almost certain we're going to have to say that it's not certain what this means- Kataangers'll rampage on us if we say outright that Aang has let go of Katara, and for another thing we really don't know for sure what this means for the upcoming season.
What do you guys think? Y BCZ 02:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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I'm not going to touch any of the pages concerning what the ending could've meant, but I'll just state my opinions here.
Every account of the episode states that Aang was stuck by Azula before he could fully transform into the next-level Avatar State. However, the end suggests that at least some form of the Avatar State remains within him, but it's not the first time we've seen his tattoos glow in a non-AS fashion. They do that when he goes to the Spirit Realm and did that when he "saw through the trees" in The Swamp. Perhaps the 7th Chakra locked again since Aang wasn't able to fully transform, ridding him of the Avatar State but retaining his love for Katara. Or perhaps he truly did release the chakra, and now no longer loves Katara but is, practically speaking, all-powerful. Hell, perhaps the disruption of his transformation reset the AS to trigger when he's in critical danger or really pissed off (maybe it went as far as letting his chakras becoming clogged all over again).
Personally, I think that no matter the outcome, in the end Aang will regain the Avatar State and retain his love for Katara, obtaining the latter and then the former. I believe this because:
-It'd be pretty lame if he didn't get the AS back at some point.
-The writers are not simply going to make such a powerful relationship vanish into thin air like that.
-If you think about the nature of the chakras and the way they are represented in the show, to release one is not so much to rid oneself of the ability to feel whatever it is that blocks the chakra (if that were so, it would mean that upon releasing the 5th Chakra Aang wouldn't be able to lie, but he lied to Sokka about his progress with the Guru), but rather to not let it be a burden upon one's mind (as the Guru said: "life is messy" and sometimes the chakras get clogged with emotional baggage, and so that baggage must be let go so the chakras can flow cleanly). So if you look at it like that, releasing the 7th Chakra would still give Aang the ability to love Katara (and anything else that "attaches him to this world"), but he would have the wisdom to realize-and to constantly be aware-that as the Avatar he has duties that are infinitely more important than his personal affairs, and thus wouldn't let said affairs get in the way and affect his judgment.
Psydon 03:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
What's with 'Justin'? Seeing no proof, I went ahead and deleted it. 67.172.125.13 18:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Apparently it's been popping up on a whole bunch of Avatar related pages recently, it's just fluff. Delete it if it pops up again. JBK405 18:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
What do you guys think? Keep or no? Most of it is speculation, but other shows have done similar information on their Wikipages (example: Paranoia Agent). H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 15:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed the fact that Aang and the rest of the airbenders are/were reminiscent of Tibetan Monks? One dead giveaway (which I just added) is explained in the trivia section:
Tulku Lamas reincarnate as many times as they see fit. This is very similar to Aang’s situation. There are a lot more similarities between airbenders and Tibetan Buddhists, but I can’t think of any right now as I just got home from work (9pm – 5am). ( Ghostexorcist 11:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC))
I know it says grey and even in a bunch of pics. from book 1 he has grey, but they seem to be brown now (see the drill at the part when the camra zooms on aang's eyes while fighting azula). I could be seeing it differently, but what does everyone else think? Momoroxmysoxoff 18:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
The article has this as an alias, isn't it more of nickname? And isn't an alias a name you pass off as your own to hide your true idendity?-- Editmonkey 06:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Since when does Aang moves in superhuman speeds? Does that have something do to with minimazing the wind resistence or something? 201.17.63.235 17:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
He does it in The Blue Spirit, when he is going to get the cure for Sokka and Katara. - Exhibit A 17:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
It's seen in several other episodes, too. Though never explicitly explained in the series, it likely has something to do with decreasing wind resistance (As you said) or propelling himself with gusts of air. JBK405 19:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Pretty much what the official site says. ~ 66.250.190.115 10 January 2007 (UTC)
This is just a personal opinion but I think the relationships aren't really needed for the character pages. It seems since the relationship pages were created, it has only sprouted more controversy on what is considered a relationship, and what is merely fandom. Add on to that, with a future season coming, there's only going to be more increase to that particular section.
The character pages (Mainly Zuko's and Aang's) are far too long and the character relationships is the only reasonable thing to cut out. And I personally think there already enough on the pages without relationships, to give anyone enough insight on the characters. Lionheart08 20:48, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
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They aren't NEEDED, sure, but that's the same thing as how a cherry on top is not needed for a sundae; it improves the package on a whole, even though it is unnecessary. I think we should keep the Relationships sections; they act as very good complimentary passages to the Personality sections (showing them from alternate perspectives via their interactions with others).
Psydon 02:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I think the relationships should have something added because Katara actually kissed Aang in the solar eclipse part 1 so it isn't not fandom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.226.25 ( talk) 23:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Okay, you know how There is a 'Story' section on this page? well, these are the subsections: Book I: Water, Reawakening, Winter Solstice, Practicing Water, and Future deadline. I'd just like to point out that if you are going to put a Book I: Water, there really should be a Book 2: Earth section. I'd change it myself, but I didnt read the section recently and I don't really know where book one stops and book 2 begins in that section. And I have school, so I have to go to sleep. Bagpipeturtle 04:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I just integrated the trivia section as according to the tag that is on the page and an automayed comment on the peer review page. Why was my edit converted? -- Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 23:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm failing the GA nomination because:
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Knew we should've never gotten rid of those pictures. Well its these guys who are the ones flip-flopping anyway. But yeah, people have an subconscious little habit of failing to see the more figurative point of the show and sometimes just plain seem to forget that everything that goes on in it, every blink and twitch, is being coordinated by a team of people with pens and pencils. Anyway, may qualify as Aang's "conception"- [4] ~71.163.70.6 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I come by this site every so often because i enjoy watching this show, the animation is great and I think the story is very well told, having said this, i recently viewed the avatar: the last airbender: 'Aang' page and noticed that a couple of thing were odd, chiefly the use of the word 'fag' which appeard as Aang's name and also appeared in the throughout intro. Anyway, I don't want to judge, I do however think that if people are going to read this page that they should leave it as is unless it's relevant information. Vandalising pages on wikipedia can be fun, nonetheless, i would prefer reading this info without having to come by some stuff some bored guy wrote so he could have fun. Anyway, I edited the page a little so i hope it looks like it did originally before the derogitive terms were thrown about. Thats it for me all, and if you do see that kind of trash talk and find it offensive, do feel free to re-edit it and post a message like I did.
65.93.227.195 02:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)big fan of the show
All the time? theres gotta be something the site can do to stop that. Still i guess its that whole freedom of speach thing, and the right to edit.
There's not a lot that can be done, there's no way to tell who's going to vandalize an article before they do it. Exhibit A 18:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
---Yeah, but its just sad to come and read info on a site you trust and find that someone vandalised it just for fun.
---that sounds like a better idea, I didnt know you could block people from wikipedia.
Honestly, do we? I mean, its a a one time joke, I can pretty much guarantee they won't be using it again. I mean, OK, put it in the article somewhere, fine, but I just don't see that it needs to be in the infobox. Quite frankly, it makes the thing ugly.-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 19:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
While Aang might have been a bit goofy when picking such an unnecessarily amusing name for his alias, it was a serious attempt to obscure his identity and present a false name, which I'm pretty sure is what an alias is. It might not have been particularly successful, or even long-lasting, but it was an alias. JBK405 20:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Zuko was only called "Junior" in a single episode, and that was only as a joke, too, (Iroh obviously enjoyed it) but that alias is on his page, and the Blind Bandit, Dong, and Kua Mei are all on Toph and Katara's oages, despite likewise only being in single episodes. JBK405 21:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm quite sure that Iroh never used the nickname "Junior" other than in The Cave of Two Lovers, it was always Zuko when in private and Lee/Li (There seems to be confusion over which precise spelling) when in public (Or "My Nephew" or "Prince" or other such things). And yes, Dong and Kua Mei are the alias's Toph and Katara used when entering the Earth Kings party, and they're on the two character pages (And they have not been contested, as Bonzu has been). I think that frequency of use really shouldn't even be a factor here, because how much use a person gets out of something doesn't change what that something is; Bonzu was used as an alias of Aang and, even if it wasn't particularly effective, it still happened. JBK405 22:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
It's a questions of consistency, Fyre. Pure and simple. An alias is an alias regardless of when, why, or how it was used. Toph was only called the Blind Bandit in one episode, but it's an alias that all of us see as important because of its history. History is not important in defining an alias.
The nature of an alias is not of the essence, it only matters that it is, in fact, an alias. By definition. We can't exclude Bonzu simply because the name itself is somewhat silly. Mushi is somewhat silly as well, but it's still an alias. Used once or used often, it was used. Still in use or retired, they're still alias. We're not going to remove The Blue Spirit from Zuko even though he threw away the mask.
Bonzy needs to be kept for consistency, aliases need to be kept for organization. That's really the only thing that matters: consistency. We use all aliases or none at all. Being selective would be a double standard that is frowned upon.
What one THINKS of an alias's worth does not matter. That is an OPINION. All that matters is this: was it ever an alias in the context of the show? If the answer is yes, then we have ourselves a FACT which MUST be presented for the sake of CONSISTENCY regardless of how we FEEL about it. Sage of Ice 22:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
(un-indenting)We most assuredly can judge which facts are worthy of presentation. Truth is not Wikipedia's sole qualification for inclusion. We can indeed discuss this sort of issue and attempt to reach consensus. That's what talk pages are for.
Regardless, I'm not making a case that this should be completely omitted, I'm simply saying it doesn't need to be listed in the infobox. We don't list everything about a character in an infobox, so we're already making a judgment. We don't, for example, say Aang sometimes Airbends when he sneezes in the infobox. I could edit the infobox, add a field for "Things done while sneezing", but that wouldn't make sense. Why? Its just not important enough to mention there. Unless we wish to inculde the entire article in the infobox, we're already making judgments, one more is perfectly fine.-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 23:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh wow would ya look at all this. For that "harm good" bit, no not really. Yeah its not killing any puppies but its not particularly helping anything either. Seriously though, it was from the early days of the show, it was this little joke (along with the Kangaroo Island bit), and its just, eh. You'd think they'd make a reference to it by now. ~Father's Wish 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Since this has come up, let's give it its own little discussion corner, m'kay?
Personally, I vote that it be taken off. It's really not that important, and if you want the aliases in there so badly, we can stick them in the Trivia. Raven23 20:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I've moved the discussion on this subject to Template talk:Infobox Avatar: The Last Airbender character, the more proper place for discussing a change to the template.-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
If anyome deletes the "black hair" thing, they are wrong, because Aang has black hair. The S3V1 box art has been revealed and Aang has black hair. So please dont delete it. (RedwallFreak305, 7-10-07 9:55 pm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.133.79 ( talk • contribs)
Let's wait for a screenshot. While that DVD box is awesome (and Katara looks beautiful in it by the way), the background color causes a lot of darker shades and Aang could very well have brown hair but the red darkens it. Either way, currently he is bald and his hair color doesn't show anyway. H2P ( Yell at me for what I've done) 07:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Okay. We've seen Comic-Con and Aang's hair is still black. Can I change it now? (RedwallFreak305 July 29 2007 8:43 am) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.186.212 ( talk • contribs)
How can we discuss this?!?! There is a Book 3 preview out and its CLEARLY shown that Aang has BLACK hair. Now tell me thats not official enough. Its actual clips from the show. Wikipedia really has a couple of mourons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicoler1 ( talk • contribs)
You're color blind. Is that proof enough? PS why are you so desperate to prove we're wrong? (RedwallFreak305) (July 30 2007 10:32 am) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.186.212 ( talk • contribs)
Oh shut up!!! You're so annoying. You must be seriously color blind, idiot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicoler1 ( talk • contribs)
Oh...well its a pretty dark shade of brown, you have to admit. (RedwallFreak305) (9-8-07 3:05 pm CEN) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.100.227 ( talk) 20:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I have a screenshot; if anybody feels as if it should be the new picture' address me and i will put it.
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16:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)Pepe007
Could his image be changed from this: Avatar-book 1 Chapters 1 And 2 0003.jpg to this? [IMG] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Avatar_Is_Back_01.jpg[/IMG] It is more current and is also appropriate for the article. The current profile image is somewhat unsettling, too. Wikiswan 20:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC) Any opinions?
A haired picture of Aang might be more current, but his shaved visage is more appropriate. He's been bald for the entire series so far, and even if he keeps his hair until the end of the series it still won't last longer than his previous style. Additionally, it's more representative of who/what he is; it's the style of his people, as well as his personal preference, and the shaved/arrowed head has always been synonymous with "Avatar" (More than one scene has gone to an extreme close-up of his arrow when people realize who he is). I think we should keep this picture, or at least this style of picture, until something more drastic than new hair occurs; this article covers Aang's whole being, not just the newest and latest, and we need to keep a picture that's similarly all-encompassing. JBK405 02:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I might be wrong, but didn't Yue used her powers for Aang to make a bigger wave? It seemed to me that she opened her arms just before the wave got bigger. 189.4.246.93 20:46, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Without some form of confirmation, we'll never know. JBK405 20:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
The confirmation is in the clip and in logic. She raises her arms, and the wave grows even bigger. The moon is what pushes and pulls the tides--she's the moon. Unless there's some sort of logical argument against it, it is safe to assume that she was key in creating the wave. Wikiswan 23:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Er....Maybe if two people say it, it'll work. How about, " No"? Keyblade Mage 00:45, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
I don't know...I thought it was pretty obvious Yue was doing so. I mean, its not OR to say what we see in the show...-- Fyre2387 ( talk • contribs) 14:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Alright...Lemme chack out the episoide agian. Keyblade Mage 22:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
Oh.....Yeah, watching it agian, I gotta say, she definatly seemed to help him. But, you gotta admit, even before Yue helped him (if she helped him), that was still some pretty good Waterbending! Keyblade Mage 22:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
I am wondering if the current picture of Aang should be replaced with one that shows him with hair. We should at least include one in the article somewhere. Darth G 23:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I mentioned the issue two posts above. :) Wikiswan 23:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
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Should the information about Aang from the episodes not yet aired in the US but already aired in the UK be added here? Like his training section with Toph and Katara (specially when his use of Tophs vibration technique) or him being nervous during Nightmares and Daydreams? Other pages have been updated with significant info from those episodes. 201.17.28.73 00:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Simple answer: Yes. JBK405 03:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I've deleted "Firebender" twice now from Aang's list. Aang says himself in episode 309 - the most current episode to-date - that he doesn't even know the Firebending basics. Don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that that means he can't bend fire and thus isn't a Firebender. Until Aang does learn Firebending, please don't add it back again.
Harukaze
11:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I added info under 'spirit' about the previous reincarnations. If there is a better place for this info, please move it, but I have found no better spot within the avatar articles. I think that this is important info about who aang is, and since two of the previous avatars have only been seen in video games, it is important to have a hub for connecting their entries in one place —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.171.34.56 ( talk) 23:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I know this is a minor point but shouldn't this page be top level importance. (zuko's page is).
Ziphon 09:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Keep in mind, the importance scale is not just for the Avatar Wikiproject, it is for all of Wikipedia. Therefore, since Avatar: The Last Airbender is rated as Top (though even that may not be an appropriate rating), this article should be rated as it is since Aang is a character of the show. In addition, I do not know why Zuko is rated as Top. It should share the same rating, if not lower, as this article. If anybody objects to my argument, please say so. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 22:51, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I have heard about earlier complaints about too many pictures, but now the article has only three or four pictures! Is there any reason why we should not be using pictures that I am not aware about? Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 00:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Under the Kuzon section, it says he was mentioned by Aang to Sokka when discussing friends and enemies. But He told Zuko about Kuzon, not Sokka. I just saw the episode too, it was "The BLue Spirit". Mew Mitsuki 21:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
right, but still, he also mentioned him to zuko first, in The Blue Spirit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kataang editor ( talk • contribs) 03:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I am the GA reviewer for this article. If you have any questions, please leave them here or on my talk page. Regards, Daimanta 22:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
"Aang is a 112-year-old monk of the Air Nomads and the current reincarnation of the Avatar." The article almost immediatly jumps into the universe. Make it more gradual. Try to refer to the fact that this happens in the series. Regards, Daimanta 22:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Also, there is no explanation of "books". Make the reader know when the series starts. Regards, Daimanta 23:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
"When Prince Zuko arrived on Kyoshi Island, he realized that by staying too long he had endangered the people, it is here that Aang and his group learn they need to be constantly on the move"
It is unclear who "he" is. Please clarify that. Daimanta 01:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"While spending 100 years of his life in suspended animation, a war between the belligerent Fire Nation and the other more peaceful nations breaks out."
I am missing the context about the 4 nations, that needs to be clarified. Daimanta 01:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"Aang is briefly captured by the Yu Yan Archers under Admiral Zhao while collecting a remedy for his friends' illness."
This is the first mention of Zhao but there is explation given about him. Daimanta 01:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Please note: The article is under constant review. Regards, Daimanta 11:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"During one of their detours they land on Kyoshi Island (an island named after one of his incarnations), where they were captured by the Kyoshi Warriors;"
Again, it is unclear who "he" is. Daimanta 11:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"We still do not know if they actually kissed or not."
Remove the "we" and make it more neutral and encyclopedic. Daimanta 13:11, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The previous GA said : "
" I would also like to see this. Regards, Daimanta 15:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I was asked one final time to review this article. I have seen this article improve alot but unfortunately I still think that it's still not just ready for GA. There is no "concept and creation" part so it's just too in universe. Based on that aspect I say that it isn't GA just yet. But it's very close and making the improvements I pointed to will make it a fine GA article. Regards, Daimanta 23:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Is Kuzon really a notable alias. I mean obviously he used it as a disguise in an episode but does the usage of it make it that important? Just asking because the sidebar says "Notable Aliases", and I think that for an alias to be listed there, that it should be at least somewhat important. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 03:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
After it has aired [and may I stress that: after it has aired], could we get an image of the outfit seen in the two-part Day of Black Sun sequence? I think it would be a more appropriate image than the one currently in use as the main infobox picture. It seems to me that it is the best possible representation of Aang as the Avatar - it is the first time he is wearing traditional airbender garb that is not that of a student. It seems to be his own personal acknowledgement that he has "graduated", so to speak.
I'm bringing this up now, because I know people have copies of these episodes, and someone can probably screen capture one of them. We can't upload it yet, for legal reasons, but it would be nice to have ready for when we can. 春 Harukaze風 16:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Please note that I have requested and received semi-protected status for this page. The protection will stand for 18 days, until the actual airing of The Day of Black Sun episodes. As these two episodes were leaked and have not aired anywhere legally, we should not include content from those episodes on these pages.
I have seen varying release dates for these episodes overseas. The only "official" date I have seen for the UK is the 30th, like the US, but I have heard that the UK and Canada might see these episodes one week earlier, on the 23rd. If this is the case, I will request for these pages to be unlocked - US release, as one user pointed out, is not the original air date.
Until then, please, please do not make edits to these pages regarding the unaired content. They will be reverted. 春 Harukaze風 20:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I know this is being lazy and all, but instead of constantly having to archive this page (usually nobody remembers), we could put a bot on the page and have it automatically archive conversations older than, let's say, 21 days. We could use this bot to auto-archive the page, making sure to change to a different archive page after it has reached a certain size. Do I have anybody that agrees with me?
If anybody is willing to consider my proposal, all we need to do is post
{{User:MiszaBot/config|algo=old(21d) |archive=User talk:Aang/Archive %(counter)d |counter=1 |maxarchivesize= 250K |minthreadsleft=10 |minthreadstoarchive=5 |archiveheader={{talkarchive}}{{archive-nav|%(counter)d}}}}
Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 22:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
What I did was, I set up templates for an auto-archiving bot, an archive box, an auto-archive notice, and a bot that creates a page with links to every topic (topics are denoted by H2 headings, as always) in a nice, assorted list. I put comments around everything so it would not go into effect yet. All we need to do is remove the comments and its done (all of this is in the lead section of this page). Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 20:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey Parent5446, I think we might have a problem. The bot ran an archive, but it archived it to "/dev/null"... unixspeak for deleting it. There's no archive link under "archives" up at the top. I think it's just "gone" - though of course nothing is gonegone in Wikipedia, I'm still worried that the bot isn't functioning properly. Should I just sit on it for a few days, and wait to see what happens, or should we do something about this? 春・ Harukaze・風 20:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
It was sending them to /dev/null just because someone collapsed the whole template into a one-liner - sorry, it must be one parameter per line. Second, with the current setting of minthreadsleft = 10 it will take quite a while for this page to fill up to 10 threads before the bot acts. Миша 13 18:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I know that Roku is an ancestor of both of them, but should they really be classified as related? I'm sure that if you go far enough back through the Avatar cycle, that an Avatar is an ancestor of just about everyone on the planet (much like how JK Rowling says that nearly all wizards have similar ancestors). Should Zuko just go to relationships and Azula back down to enemies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.134.228 ( talk) 04:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
We really need to get this out of the way. The problem is that the article is too in-universe, as you may have noticed by the message box on the top of the article. It is holding the article down from going any further than it is now. In addition, with the spoilers that some people are adding, it is becoming even harder. However, I think we should try and collect some ideas on what we should do. Just look around for something, maybe even give a source or two of something we could put in. Post anything that will be useful. Hopefully we will enlarge the amount of out-of-universe information. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 02:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Aang's journey begins with a simple quest to learn the other three elements as his Avatar status guides him to do. However, in " The Winter Solstice", Aang discovers that he must defeat Fire Lord Ozai before the end of next year's summer, or the Fire Nation will use the power of a special comet named Sozin's comet to win the war, just like they used it one hundred years ago to start the war. [1] In " The Library", Aang learns that his deadline might be even earlier as his best chance at defeating the Fire Lord would be during an upcoming solar eclipse, during which all Firebenders will no longer be able to use their Firebending abilities. [2] By this time, he has already started to learn Waterbending from Katara, who learned after an interesting conflict in " The Siege of the North", and Earthbending from Toph, who the gang ran in to at an Earthbending tournament in " The Blind Bandit". [3] [4] As for Firebending, Aang still does not have a trainer, though he has tried to find one many times (almost succeeding in " The Deserter"). [5] As the day of the solstice starts to close in, and the planned invasion is just days away, Aang starts to go delusional in " Nightmares and Daydreams", before finally resting for the next day, which will be revealed in " The Day of Black Sun". [6] [7]
I agree. The relationships section is very important. SkepticBanner ( talk) 02:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll copy the relationships section to the Avatar Wiki in that case. SkepticBanner ( talk) 05:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not leaving Wikipedia because Admins are removing a lot of important information. I'll go to the edit history, copy it, then paste in in the Avatar Wikia. SkepticBanner ( talk) 02:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The relationship sections have to go. They're just such a minefield of fanwank and speculation. Don't get it wrong, like ya said, relationships are a big thing in this show, but why do you need to dedicate an entire paragraph overanalyzing something that was effectively touched on in less than two sentences in another section? Then there's how the term "relationship" is skewed. I've seen people jump up to cite how Sokka and Zuko or Toph and Azula have a "relationship" simply because they exchanged dialog just once, and dontcha just love how Katara had a relationship with Zuko before they had any substantial interaction? Rhymes with Sutara. They don't all have to go, just the redudant, obviously stretched out ones. Things like Aang and Zuko or the inevitable Aang and Katara fluff are explicitly the foundations of the show. Then there's less vital but still significant stuff like Toph and Sokka or Toph and Katara. But as for everything else. Yeah we all know Toph doesn't like flying but thats about it, no offense towards Appa. Aside from the explicit fact that they're friends, she's his teacher and the rough patches that had in the beginning, Aang and Toph really don't interact all that much. And for God's sake "Iroh and Zhao?" I liked that one part in the first season finale too but comon.
The relationship sections started out as a good idea, but ovetime it, like so, so many other Avatar articles, has just become an engine for the numerous Avatards online to dump every single little thing they see in an episode. Why we all get off to junk like that, who really knows? Abridgement. As for Avatar wiki, god no. Seriously though that (thing's) a joke. Fathers Wish II 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is the History section back? I down-sized it for a reason and now it is back. Is anybody at least looking at the talk page or reviewing previous edits (or reading the MoS) before blindly making edits. The history section should not be in this article as this article is about a fictional character. This information is already, or should already be, in Avatar: The Last Airbender. This is not a biography. The most this should have is Concept and Creation (which has not yet gone int existence), Characteristics, and MAYBE a brief paragraph on his role in the show. THAT IS IT! I am going to remove it once more. If you have any arguments, post them here. I am not in the mood (nor do I have the time to wait out a block) to have an edit way. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 17:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC) It's a little bit better. (Please note the timestamp on the above comment is wrong as my browser took a long time to submit it.) The most we need now is references in the history section and we need a concept and creation section. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 18:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
According to WP:LEAD, this section should be able to give all the necessary basic info a reader needs to understand the topic. If the lead section was the only thing in the article, then it should be able to tell the reader the basics at the least. This means that if something is mentioned in the sidebar, it can be mentioned again in the lead section, especially if it describes a voice. Think about it this way, since the main voice is also in the sidebar, should we remove that too? No. As for the other info, it deserves to be there because, even though the information should be in the history section, it should be in the lead too because, as previously said, the lead is a general outlook on the rest of the article. Finally, the lead is small enough. According to WP:LEAD, it should be three to four paragraph for this article, while we have about half a paragraph. Please do not revert the edits anymore. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 21:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Again, I reiterate that mentioning Katara and Sokka invites a laundery listing of his current companions and pets. Would you support mentioning Appa, Momo and Toph?
Regarding mention of Musso's role, I refer to precedent set in other featured articles. In the comparable fictional character article Amidala Grey Delisle's significantly smaller contribution to the character is confined to the sidebar, while and her name is not mentioned in the lead at all, despite the fact that Clone Wars actually aired for a wide cable television audience. In Jason Voorhees only Kane Hodder, his most well known portrayer, merits mention in the lead, in contrast with his veritable army of sucessors. We really should aspire to that level of concision. -- Buinne 22:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I was incorrect in my above statement regarding television character articles. Apart from the fourteen catagorized as good, Troy McClure, Nikki and Paulo, and Bernard Quatermass are all featured television character articles that we can stylistically draw from ETA: Long running Eastender's lead Pauline Fowler too -- Buinne 00:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Since the end of Day of Black Sun Pt. 2, and Zuko's decision to join Aang, dosen't that mean that Aang just found himself a firebending teacher? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.116.27 ( talk) 14:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
The Western Air Temple has aired in Canada, Zuko will teach Aang, you can watch it at youtube. 189.32.153.180 ( talk) 16:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Heading off any well-intended reversions, I would like to note in-sidebar that Musso appeared in the "original pilot." Like Billy West as Zim in Invader Zim, Musso had a one-time role in a "production pilot," shown to the network as a prototypical pitchreel for the series and never intended for air. After funding was secured, the "broadcast pilot" ie. "Boy in the Iceberg" was developed.-- Buinne ( talk) 23:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Where applicable, character article leads will mention the character's most emphasized and developed relationship(s) in a series. Like say, Star Wars' Amidala: wife of Anakin, mother of Luke & Leia. Lost's Boone Carlyle: helper and protegé of John Locke. CSI's Sara Sidle: long fan-shipped, finally canon and now ex paramour of fellow principal Gil Grissom. See that last one? It brings up an issue. In the lead, should we even mention, however briefly, Aang and Katara's budding romance, let alone meta anticipation for it? The kiss would seem to render it canon, after seasons of tease. But is the opportunity for wank too great?-- Buinne ( talk) 03:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Are we supposed to include summaries for the books? From what I've read in the talk page it sounds like the book summaries aren't needed. When I arrived at the article three hours ago, the summaries for books 1 2 3 are on the page, so I thought they're supposed to be there and just waiting for people to touch up and expand. I expanded Books 2 and 3, and after reading the talk page, I've cropped out plenty of unnecessary details in Books 1 and 2. They're both complete now, that is, I've looked through all episodes in both books and picked out the important details involving Aang. Certain episodes are not mentioned, because they're not needed. By "book summaries", I mean plot points directly involving Aang only. I didn't resummarise Book 3 since the entire book isn't out yet. I hope the summaries are good enough. I don't think anymore plot details are needed. -- Secretss ( talk) 15:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that we have spent just a little bit too much time on the summaries. They are very important, but we really need to concentrate on putting in a concept and creation section. Does anybody have any ideas? Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 19:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Quick-failed - no sources outside the show, a problem which, IIRC, was brought up in the last GAN. At its current state, it clearly fails criteria 1a. The page should have its fictional summary cut and the creation in. Will ( talk) 23:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
i've seen several articles about the characters in the show, and some of the are longer (notably zuko's) than aang's. shouldn't we give more depth in this article? after all, aang is the major protagonist in the show. Tye blue ( talk) 10:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
do we have one wre can repalce the character image, one from the 3rd book, i suggest we update all the pictures to 3rd book.-- Cody6 ( talk) 14:14, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Why was the entire Relationships section of Aangs article removed? 189.32.153.180 ( talk) 16:14, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
The relationship section is important to the character section. It explains how the characters are influenced. Besides people like reading them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiimanwii1 ( talk • contribs) 05:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Erm, maybe it would be a good idea to point out that this is Wikipedia, not a fan site. After all, Avatar: The Last Airbender is fictional. And Wikipedia has really strict guidelines. I mean, there has to be a difference between a fan page and a wikipedia article, right? A line has got to be drawn somewhere. Maybe when you're just looking at this wiki article you don't see why certain information are not included here, but perhaps if you hold wiki on one hand and a fan page on the other you can make a comparison. People who are really interested in knowing tiny details about fictional characters would google for fan sites instead of coming to wikipedia. Just my two cents. -- Secretss ( talk) 07:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Re: The issue of Aang being fatally injured versus killed by Azula's lightning in book 2. I know this has been discussed on Katara's talk page before, but it seems more appropriate here. The sentence in the article has been changed quite a few times already from fatally injured to killed and now it's back to fatally injured. Currently it says "fatally wounded to the point where his spirit separates". IMO, that is probably the most appropriate phrase if you take into account the animated graphic novel on the dvd. Does anybody have an opinion about this? If we can find a good compromising sentence we can add a comment in the edit box requesting no more changes. Maybe the creators purposely left this issue ambiguous to confuse us wiki editors =S I personally have no idea what to think. I can't tell if he was injured or killed. What do you guys think?-- Secretss ( talk) 10:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I think, given the currently available information, we can't figure out if Aang actually died. The fact that his spirit and body separated seems to indicate he died, but that seems to happen even when he's alive and well. Consequently, I'd suggest removing both "fatally injured" and "killed." Instead, the article could simply say, "Azula struck Aang down with lightning." Whether Aang died or not is irrelevant to the plot and should be decided by the viewer. b.y.w ( talk) 04:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, why was the Bending section butchered out? 189.32.157.17 ( talk) 22:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I suggest we remove it, it's just another extension of what Wikipedia is not. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 20:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Whoever wanted the further reading section to be checked out according to WP:FANSITE, you do not need to worry. The page does not say much about fansites (it redirects to Wikipedia:External links), but as far as I'm concerned, the two sites qualify to be in that section because according to WP:GTL#Further reading, the section in question is for sources that have not necessarily been used in the article as a citation but contain valuable information relating to the subject, which they do. In addition, going back to WP:FANSITE, the links are not advertisments, do not install malware, do not require registration, or anything else like that. In fact, it might be considered that these links should be in the article because according to WP:EL#What should be linked, the web sites currently in use have "meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews." Luckily, I think the case is closed that the two sites, though they are fansites, do give reliable information that is not used in the article (or at least not all of it is used), and therefore does not need to be removed. Feel free to object in any way because I might have missed something. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 14:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I know a lot of the editors of this page have migrated to the new season pages (especially Avatar: The Last Airbender (Season 3)), but I just want to ask anybody that is still here what the point of half the information in the "Avatar" section is. All that is there is one or two statements of Aang's avatar abilities and then a paragraph or two of plot summaries elaborating on it. Couldn't we just integrate the statements into another section and get rid of the repetitive plot summaries? Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 00:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted Parent5446's removal of the section, mainly because not all of it is a repeat of the previous summary:
The main reason that the template at the top of the article states a need for additional references is because all of the references are from within the show. I think that, even though it doesn't actually add additional sources, if all the current references to the show are linked to their appropriate summaries at [avatarspirit.com Avatar Spirit] (along with a link to the transcript page) as done with some of the references, the citations might be able to be considered tertiary or at least secondary sources; this would make the references more reliable and thus removing some of our referencing problem to the point where we do not need to have it on the template at the top of the article. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 04:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
May I just ask, in response to User:Sesshomaru's comment, where the other format of quotation is? In response to your second comment, I agree, I'll see what can do to change the case of every occurence. As for the links, I'll look over it and see what I can do. If you have any specific examples for anything, please mention it below because I might miss it myself and then the mistake remains in the article. Thanks for the advice. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 18:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
In Creation and conception, Characteristics and Bending, the text of the quotes are very small. Is there anything better than {{ cquote}}? Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 17:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Can you check if the words firebending, airbending, waterbending, and earthbending are overlinked? Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 04:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I apologize for that edit. It wasn't until now that I realized what the difference was (the comma that the template puts in). I'll undo my edit. Sorry for any confusion. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 03:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
An anonymous user keeps on adding material to the 'conception' section and citing it with a link to the main avatar page. Wikipedia is not a source. I will continue to remove this information until they provide a reference for some outside material. I hope others will do the same. -- Ghostexorcist ( talk) 00:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, for anybody that monitors this article, here is what is going to happen. The article has come a long way since its last review. It now has a creation and conception information along with other good stuff. In addition, the plot summaries have been seriously toned down by a visit from some angel-like author who copy-edited the article and gave it a chance. Anyway, the article is currently a candidate at WP:ACID. When Wednesday comes, and the article becomes the article of the week for the Article Improvement and Collaboration Drive, we will wait to see if anybody brings any more constructive edits. If so, we'll wait until the article's week is up and the next article goes into WP:ACID. If not, we'll start immediately. What do I mean by "we'll start immediately"? I mean we will hopefull hold out last nomination for GA status. Until that time, please make any last minute preparations you may have because I really want the article to pass. Best of luck. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 22:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
There was a game on Nick.com that had to do with the previous avatars in the spirit world. The game focused on Aang and exists in canon with the show. Should the events of the games be chronicled here, seeing as they did happen to Aang? Rau J16 03:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Wow, I am usually against wikis that only exist to catch the spillover of info that was rejected from Wikipedia, but on the Avatar wiki there is a detailed plot on the whole game. Too bad the game has no real-life importance to qualify as an article on Wikipedia. The link is here. I'll see what I can put in for now. But we might need better references. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 23:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
To tell you the truth, it is more proper to put it at the bottom. However, there is no policy, guideline, essay, or manual of style that says anything about it and the section is too small to be in its own level 2 heading section. In conclusion, it just plain looks better where it is. The only way it would look better at the bottom is if we could find any more information to put in it. Right now, I know I've looked, but if you can find any more reliable sources for that section and enlarge the section, then it can moved back. As for Walter (the edit war user), I contacted Placebo because I know he is involved with the project and he is an admin. If he does not respond, the user is still reported on WP:AN/3RR. Hopefully, this will all end before Wednsday because articles with edit disputes cannot be put on WP:ACID. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 03:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Walter Mellon Head has been blocked indefinitely so I do not think he will be interrupting us anymore. The page is currently in request for semi-protection, but it might fail since the user is now blocked. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 03:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
The best part of it all is that according to WP:3RR, if he makes another account and comes back or just starts editing anonymously, we can revert him as many times as we want. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 15:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I tried playing that Escape From the Spirit World game and I couldn't get past level 1. The game got stuck at the Aang On challenge so we will have to use external sources for more info. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 18:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Yea see, the game, although avatar canon, is not that good. Hopefully someone else can give it a shot and beat it, im going to try again when i have more time (probably in school). But YAY! for the reverts!! Rau J16 19:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
TIME OF POSTING: 20:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
CURRENT TIME: 01:26 2024-1-08 UTC PURGE
ACID NOM: 00:00 2008-02-20 UTC Finished at: 23:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
GA NOM: 00:00 2008-02-21 UTC Finished at: 21:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Feel free to change dates or time as this is not official, but please write your reason below. Once a deadline has arrived, cross it out. Hopefully our fourth GA nomination will be successful. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 20:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Believe it or not, Aang has finally passed and is a GA.
Thanks to all who contributed! Limetolime ( talk) 17:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
There have been certain complaints on the tense of the article. I think it says somewhere in WP:MoS that tense should be kept consistent. This rules should be standard anyway, MoS or not. Either way, I am not sure whether to put the whole article in present tense or past tense. I think we should put it in past tense since the episodes, etc. already happened. However, I wanted to discuss it first before changing tense just to have it changed back. Parent5446( Murder me for my actions) 02:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Been wanting to ask about this. I know there once were the "Characters introduced in [year]" cats, but Avatar State is in a introductory cat so what's the deal here? Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 06:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
In response to a request to do so, I've done some copyediting. These have all been minor stylistic changes, aimed at shorter sentences -- roughly limiting them to three ideas, qualifications or asides per sentence.
More general peer review comments are the following. This is a solidly and broadly researched entry. There is admirable, controlled interaction with critical analysis. Quotes and references to the creators' intentions are outstanding content for the article. Synopsis of plot is also admirably restrained.
In fact, there is so much good material, presented so concisely, with substantial sources, that it invites expansion. Overall, the feel of the prose is, I think rightly, slightly clipped, energetically and economically progressing content with each sentence. I think this is exemplary for encyclopedic style.
The only quibble I have with the entry is three underdeveloped allusions to vegetarianism and Buddhism. Perhaps this is due to sources not really developing the point. Either these need fuller treatment (maybe even a Cultural Milleu section), or they should be dropped, as true and verifiable material, but tangential to the main thrust of the article, and of the sections that contain them. My advice is, "develop or drop" this point.
Finally, I concur with current GA status. Regarding FA, this depends on personal philosophy. My feeling is some entries ought to be short and shouldn't really be expected to be FA (after the analogy of lists etc.). Given my ignorance of the topic area, I really don't know if this is an article that could accumulate enough content to be considered for FA, or whether it should stand as a fine example of a GA that knows its limitations -- it's brilliance is shown by its brevity.
Thanks to those who have provided this article. Best wishes to all who work to develop it further. Cheers. Alastair Haines ( talk) 23:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
We have a picture maybe of aang in his monk robes for the article?-- Jakezing ( talk) 02:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be in the Avatar: The Last Airbender section? It doesn't make much sense for a character to have a plot synopsis or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.224.134 ( talk) 02:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm just curious as to why there isn't anything about the Avatar State. It's a very important aspect of the series. I would put it in, but I'm just starting. I don't know how to add a new option in the info box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Holymasterchief ( talk • contribs) 02:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Considering the main article links to this page as the one about the avatar state, I think it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.243.165 ( talk) 05:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't it important? The Avatar State is the only way to defeat the Fire Lord, and Aang used it many times, as did past Avatars. So why isn't it important? Holymasterchief ( talk) 16:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm certain that separate article in the Avatar state is outta the question. So, mentioning the Avatar state is not too much to ask for yes? 75.72.221.194 ( talk) 22:10, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Should Aang get a bending section based on his skill with firebending, earthbending, waterbending and airbending, his status as a bridge between the Spirit World and Earth, and the Avatar State or something. Elemental5293 ( talk) 16:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Toph always used to call him "Twinkletoes." (due to her naming him that based on his fighting style of rarely staying on the ground when they first met in the Earth Rumble VI tournament) Actually, I don't think she ever called him Aang in the second season! Since Zuko has "Zu-Zu," mentioned about twelve times, at most, shouldn't Aang get "Twinkletoes?" Krem Tell me stuff ♫Whaaaat I've Doooonne!♪ 19:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I just included a section with short descriptions about Aang learning the 4 elements and his other skills, such as energybending. I know it's a given that the Avatar learns the 4 elements, but to the newcomer they won't know that. I justify the section's inclusion because otherwise it's unbalanced that the other characters have descriptions of their skills and Aang, the titular character, doesn't have anything. Also please don't expand on it too much if you don't have to. I tried to keep the section short and to the point to keep in flow with the other character pages. I'll cite references in that section soon. MisterZeppo ( talk) 06:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Since he spent about the whole series crushing on Katara, it seems apropriate that the fact he did end up with her be mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.58.192 ( talk) 00:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Why is it, that while pretty much everyone else gets a new portrait, Aang is still, still, stuck with that same old, eternal, butt-ugly pic? 84.250.246.11 ( talk) 15:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Photoshopping is always fun. I noticed that the staff was extremely long, and would make Aang's body really small if we were to fit the entire staff into the box. Therefore, its removal would have been best. I claim WP:IAR if there is a policy against it - since photoshopping increases the article's quality. :) -- haha169 ( talk) 17:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Either that or the explosion with Momo should be removed. Either way, one has to be because they don't really give much to the article. I propose a discussion here before removal. -- haha169 ( talk) 01:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Folks let's settle this once and for all: does he belong here or not? If so, there should be references that suggests so. If you ask me, using wind for quick maneuvering is not super speed. This is why Storm has not been placed in the category. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 18:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Look, okay, Aang has BLACK HAIR. You'd have to be blind to no be able to see it. I would've changed it, but it said to discuss it here first. So there, he's obviously black-haired. -- SuperFlash101 ( talk) 18:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Look guys, the reason why Aang's hair color is listed as dark brown is because of this image: [7] I think it's that one, may have been a different one from the same magazine though. - Dylan0513 ( talk) 17:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
(unindent) Capitalization matters grammatically. I have no idea why he changed which is first. - Dylan0513 ( talk) 02:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
For a discussion about in the inclusion of Aang and Katara romantic relationship, please see Katara's talk page. NuclearWarfare contact me My work 15:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Based on a poster in the 17th episode of Book 2 which was intended to look for Appa, the poster reads
The 4th line "降世神通安昂" clearly shows "Avatar Aang". So I guess we could include the name "安昂" for Aang.-- Tricia Takanawa ( talk) 16:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Aren't they black? -- Dramartistic ( talk) 00:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Is there anyway we can change the lead photo back to the stock picture that used to grace the page? The currently picture just looks so unnatural. I don't know too many 12-year-olds that are rocking a six pack. (Yes, I have seen little kids that were so skinny you could see their abs, but the picture is drawn with muscular abs.) I also think the background is too distracting. The original picture was just fine. -- Ghostexorcist ( talk) 22:03, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh I got you now! I thought you wanted the other way around. Jhenderson 777 18:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
OK, we have a bit of a problem. The caption for the photo in the Plot overview section has a link for the words "Avatar State". While I agree it should be linked, as many readers will not know what the Avatar State is, the link actually redirects to the Series overview section of the main article, where there is not any clearly discernible information about the Avatar State. We either need to link it somewhere else or explain what the Avatar State is inline. Any thoughts?
That's the best information we have so far. But like I said I strongly encourage a Abilities section, possiby a sub section of the Characteristics section. Because that does explain some of his abilities. Jhenderson 777 22:48, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not a wikipedia user, but I wanted to tell you that in the Avatar disambiguation page, the links leads directly here instead to the Avatar: The Last Airbender page. For a while I thought the two articles had been merged, and I'm pretty sure it must've happened to someone else. It would be best if that link redirected the other page instead don't you think? -- 200.125.83.181 ( talk) 03:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
In the sequal series to Avatar: The Last Airbender, Aang and Katara have a son, Tenzin. Link: http://lytherus.com/2010/12/16/avatar-the-legend-of-korra/. 142.26.194.190 ( talk) 16:03, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
In the infobox, shouldn't we change "Protagonist" to "Main Protagonist" not to be confused with other protagonists (Toph, Suki, etc). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.64.182.93 ( talk) 02:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I did remove a category saying that he has lightning abilities but I am deciding to discuss it first. Last I knew he could only redirect lightning and I am not sure that should count. What do other editors think about that? Jhenderson 777 19:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I removed the line:
It cites no references and sounds like personal opinion. It carries the same weight as speculation that he was assassinated by Amon's agents. Sings-With-Spirits ( talk) 12:22, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
As is customary for many Wikipedia articles, the first instance of the word Avatar links to the default Avatar article. However, it is not the fictional character cycle that is part of the cartoon show. It directs to the idea in Hindu culture. I did not want to remove it in case that such a link is warranted, but it seems to me that such a connection is only an allusion on the creator's part to use the term for Aang and his predecessors/successors. Should the link be removed, since it directs to an article that's not directly related to the subject matter of Aang's article?-- 134.129.205.102 ( talk) 22:06, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I have removed name from the alias section since an alias is a fake name used by a person to hide their identity. It has nothing to do with nick names used by other people to make fun of the person. Here is a link to dictionary.com to prove my point [ [9]] which proves that a nickname used by Toph regarind Anng is does not meet the definition of an alias.-- 70.49.81.140 ( talk) 05:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Aang/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
3 images, 40 citations, still reads in-universe information by a characters, needs out of world perspective. JJ98 ( Talk) 10:22, 31 October 2014 (UTC) |
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Shouldn't this be updated since The Legend of Korra confirmed that the Avatar is a human fused with the light spirit, Rava? 68.188.56.8 ( talk) 00:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Given that the most common usage of 'significant other' confers a sexual or romantic hint to a relationship, on the talk page for Korra, I'm proposing that we add a new category(or categories) to list characters with whom she clearly has a intimate and important relationship, but not a romantic one. In the interests of consistency, I'm bringing this here as well, as I think this article's infobox could also benefit from this sort of change. As important as Appa is, I don't think many people would call him Aang's significant other. Feel free to participate in the discussion there. Cannolis ( talk) 03:33, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
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Since the whole series took place in under a year how can he be 113-114 in book 3. Eberhard513 ( talk) 00:01, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
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