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Is Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon Queen's shortest song?
from the article:
1976 "Bohemian Rhapsody" Pop Singles 9
and
"Bohemian Rhapsody"/"I'm In Love With My Car" - Elektra E45297; released December, 1975
If these are US and UK release dates perhaps this should be made clearer..
Freddies piano solo on "Death on..." is described as "wonderful" Not exactly NPOV :p Grymsqueaker
"There are some very nice backing vocals by Freddie as well as very high and fairly low harmonies by Roger, and some falsettos by Brian." doesn't seem to be very NPOV either... humanoidboogie
People tend to gush when it comes to a band this awesome. lol 65.248.164.214 ( talk) 22:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
...as they say... No Synthesisers! (Just massive overdubbing.) I would not call it prog. -- Fantailfan 12:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I definentally think it's progressive. They made progress with the rock sound and did not even used synths. Synths is not really needed for music to be progressive.
You don't need synths to make Prog Rock...they just help. Yes, ELP, Rush, Kansas, Dream Theatre...synth heavy bands there. 65.248.164.214 ( talk) 22:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
where do you find these rejected songs like "woe" and others.
Re this quote:
"There are no pauses between the songs. This gives the album as a whole a collage effect. The songs seem to play continuously without stopping in between."
Is this just the original vinyl version? Both the remastered casette and CD versions definitely have pauses between the tracks, except between "The Prophets' Song" and "Love of my life". Can anyone provide any back-up for this? Stejsmith 06:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Not to be a stinker but stejsmith is half wrong. He is right about the "prophet's song/love of my life" no puase thing. Where he is wrong is as follows : Just after the song titled "Death On Two Legs(Dedicated To...)" is yet another song from the album ( on the cd and LP of "A Night At The Opera") called "Lazing On A Sunday Afternnon". There is not any pauses between these two tracks either. I have the LP cassette and CD versions of "A Night At The Opera" and have listened to them thoroughly. STejsmith is right about there not being a pause between The Prophet's Song" & "Love Of My Life". I am also certain that there is no actuall pause between the "DeathOn Two Legs" song and the "Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon" track. Now, as far as the rest of he recording there isnt any other pauses that I can tell on the cd or cassette. (The Vinman)
Okay, if this is a rock opera, I dare you to work out the plot. Twin Bird 02:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
This is no rock opera. When Queen did the We Will Rock You stage musical, they drew from ANATO, but chose instead to place its concepts within a larger dystopian Matrix/THX-1138/1984-esque framework of "music as revolution against tyranny." If ANATO was truly a rock opera, they could have done the musical solely on that basis (and made a much stronger production as well, IMO). I have loved Queen for 18 years, so there is no hating going on here, BTW. 65.248.164.214 ( talk) 16:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
. Everyone in Iran gets the joke, or they should. I'm late for a date, set long, long ago -- for the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, to end this shit forever. Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 04:06, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Not sure if this is necessarily true, but it seems pretty obvious from what I've heard of the song: The Prophet's song was written about May's dream of The Great Flood (or the story of Noah, hence the dove). I've read this somewhere, but I can't remember where, but it makes sense. I'm pretty sure, but not sure enough to write it in. MaddenedMan 09:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
"The title was apparently chosen because if the tracks on Queen's original studio albums are numbered in sequential order starting with their first, this would be the 39th song in the sequence."
The band denies this on their website. They say the fact that it was their 39th studio song was merely a coincidence they noticed after the album had been released.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.82.35.51 ( talk • contribs).
"39 does indeed appear to deal with the time-dilation effect of near-lightspeed travel. However, at risk of being a little pedantic, there is nothing in the lyrics to suggest that 100 years have passed (tried to include link but spam-filtered, so find your own...). It is not even explicitly stated that the narrator's loved one is dead - the reprise of the line "Don't you hear my call though you're many years away" could suggest this, but then "your mother's eyes in your eyes cry to me" merely suggests a gap of a generation or so (which would still scupper most relationships!). All somewhat subjective admittedly." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.31.202.145 ( talk) 09:50, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
"OK, I'm being dense - I suppose the two successive 'years of 39' could indicate a gap of a century, which in turn would strongly suggest his loved one was no more. However I'd always interpreted this as meaning that (from the crew's perspective) they returned the same year they left. Both of these could be true I guess. Personally I never picked up on the death angle." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.31.202.145 ( talk) 09:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be "A Night At The Opera" the way it's written on the album cover? 84.108.245.222 18:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
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A number of well known albums such as Led Zeppelin IV and The Beatles' White Album have a page for every song. As this is widely considered Queen's Magnum Opus, would you reckon it would be deserving for the same to happen with this album? It's a very popular album as the article suggests, and I think it should. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.32.41.11 ( talk) 01:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
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is someone vandalizing this page? The pages for Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...), Lazing o a Sunday Afternoon, I'm in Love with My Car, 39, Sweet Lady, Seaside Rendezvous, The Prophet's Song, Good Company, and God Save the Queen are gone completly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.253.215 ( talk) 01:49, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Dear all,
I noticed that there is no Charts section/table like the one in, e.g., the Innuendo or The Miracle article (with chart peak position by country, platinum/gold certification and sales). Does anyone else feel like this is missing? Should we work on adding this?
Looking forward to your opinions, Ben
-- Georgepauljohnringo ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC).
I first had A Night at the Opera on a UK release cassette so it came as a surprise when I later had the LP and CD releases and Good Company and Seaside Rendezvous had swapped positions in the track listing (I always preferred the track listing the way I first heard it). This perhaps ought to be noted on the main page but I don't know whether this different track listing was widespread or just on certain releases. Grunson ( talk) 20:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hello, I deleted the reference to Mägo de Oz as I don't think it's related to the said song. The creator may link his article to this section, but I don't think it's necessary to include this on the article. Thanks. Lynisganda01 ( talk) 23:49, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
All the tracks from this album currently have their own articles, and I'm wondering whether some of these are actually worth keeping as individual articles, or whether it would be better to merge them into this one. For example, " Good Company" contains just two references, one of which is to confirm John Deacon as bass guitarist (big deal!). The quotes by Brian May about the song are fascinating and would be worthy of keeping, but they are unsourced – anybody know where they are from? If you look at " Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...)" or " '39" most of the discussion of the song's meaning is essentially replicated in this album article, and the only extra information is about when the song has been played live. It appears that many of the song articles were created by TheStig118 and his reasoning for them is given in Talk:A Night at the Opera (Queen album)#Full song writing list above.
As an important album there's a good case for the individual song articles to be kept, but they need to be improved and the substantial overlap removed. It goes without saying that " Bohemian Rhapsody" and " You're My Best Friend" should keep their own articles, as the singles from the album and with their own chart placings, certifications, etc. Pinging Rodericksilly, Willondon, G5btb5g-2015b, Forever-AsItBegan and anyone else interested in this article for their thoughts. Richard3120 ( talk) 20:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
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Do we have a reliable source that says the album was released on 21 November 1975? It charted w/e 13 December, which would actually suggest a release date a week later on 28 November, because at the time fifteen days was the standard difference between release date and chart date. Richard3120 ( talk) 17:40, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Could this link be of some help for the release dat possibly? http://www.albumoftheyear.org/ratings/35-rolling-stone-highest-rated/1975/1 combatchuck29 ( talk) 22:25 26 October 2017
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I've had a look in the British Library for reviews of A Night at the Opera from the four major UK music magazines of the time (NME, Melody Maker, Sounds and Record Mirror), and astonishingly, it doesn't seem to have been reviewed in any of them. Whether this was because EMI refused to send copies of the album to the media for review, or whether the generally anti-Queen UK music press simply didn't bother, I have no idea – there's a review in Rolling Stone from early 1976, but I think most reviews for the "critical reception" section are going to have to be legacy ones. Richard3120 ( talk) 16:55, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't believe the review in the "Reception and legacy" section comes from Melody Maker in 1975. Firstly, it's obvious from reading the first sentence in the source ("Queen was well-known at the time of this album's debut for hard rock") that the use of the past tense shows that this is a legacy review. Secondly, the majority of the review focuses on the quality of the new mix. This isn't the type of thing Melody Maker would have covered, either in 1975 or on a subsequent reissue, despite where the source claims the article has come from – it's far more likely that this review has come from Record Collector or a specialist audiophile magazine such as Hi-Fi Choice. Richard3120 ( talk) 21:24, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
I am really excited about the WikiProject Albums and would like to help improve this Queen Album article so that it can get it's GA rating. Is there any suggestions of things I could do to help? -- Dragonriderski ( talk) 00:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
I added to composition section of "Bohemian Rhapsody" from the print book "Freddie Mercury" by Lesley-Ann Jones. Dragonriderski ( talk) 02:37, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, she did describe them as obscure.
So, I should concentrate more on good solid citations in the composition area and not worry as much about actual additions to the article. I actually had to order books from out of our library system because there wasn't anything available. It's like pulling teeth to find printed works on Queen. Dragonriderski ( talk) 23:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
George Michael performed "'39" at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert on April 20th,[4] 1992.[5][6] Dragonriderski ( talk) 01:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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I don't understand why was pop genre added to this album and "A Day At The Races". All the same, the source says that the genre of the album is pop in the sense that it is more a mass product, not in terms of the musical component. Alex katsenelson ( talk) 00:11, 07 September 2018 (UTC)
Un-referenced material, non-encyclopedic language, etc., etc. Where to start fixing this atrocity of an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.44.55 ( talk • contribs) 10:02, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
I suggested in the "Release date" thread above that 28 November was a more likely release date than 21 November for this album, based on charting date, and now I see the Sounds review also states that the album would be released on 28 November. Unless someone can provide a source for 21 November being the release date (which isn't sourced anywhere in the article), I'm going to change it to 28 November and cite the source. Richard3120 ( talk) 17:38, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
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Is Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon Queen's shortest song?
from the article:
1976 "Bohemian Rhapsody" Pop Singles 9
and
"Bohemian Rhapsody"/"I'm In Love With My Car" - Elektra E45297; released December, 1975
If these are US and UK release dates perhaps this should be made clearer..
Freddies piano solo on "Death on..." is described as "wonderful" Not exactly NPOV :p Grymsqueaker
"There are some very nice backing vocals by Freddie as well as very high and fairly low harmonies by Roger, and some falsettos by Brian." doesn't seem to be very NPOV either... humanoidboogie
People tend to gush when it comes to a band this awesome. lol 65.248.164.214 ( talk) 22:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
...as they say... No Synthesisers! (Just massive overdubbing.) I would not call it prog. -- Fantailfan 12:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I definentally think it's progressive. They made progress with the rock sound and did not even used synths. Synths is not really needed for music to be progressive.
You don't need synths to make Prog Rock...they just help. Yes, ELP, Rush, Kansas, Dream Theatre...synth heavy bands there. 65.248.164.214 ( talk) 22:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
where do you find these rejected songs like "woe" and others.
Re this quote:
"There are no pauses between the songs. This gives the album as a whole a collage effect. The songs seem to play continuously without stopping in between."
Is this just the original vinyl version? Both the remastered casette and CD versions definitely have pauses between the tracks, except between "The Prophets' Song" and "Love of my life". Can anyone provide any back-up for this? Stejsmith 06:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Not to be a stinker but stejsmith is half wrong. He is right about the "prophet's song/love of my life" no puase thing. Where he is wrong is as follows : Just after the song titled "Death On Two Legs(Dedicated To...)" is yet another song from the album ( on the cd and LP of "A Night At The Opera") called "Lazing On A Sunday Afternnon". There is not any pauses between these two tracks either. I have the LP cassette and CD versions of "A Night At The Opera" and have listened to them thoroughly. STejsmith is right about there not being a pause between The Prophet's Song" & "Love Of My Life". I am also certain that there is no actuall pause between the "DeathOn Two Legs" song and the "Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon" track. Now, as far as the rest of he recording there isnt any other pauses that I can tell on the cd or cassette. (The Vinman)
Okay, if this is a rock opera, I dare you to work out the plot. Twin Bird 02:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
This is no rock opera. When Queen did the We Will Rock You stage musical, they drew from ANATO, but chose instead to place its concepts within a larger dystopian Matrix/THX-1138/1984-esque framework of "music as revolution against tyranny." If ANATO was truly a rock opera, they could have done the musical solely on that basis (and made a much stronger production as well, IMO). I have loved Queen for 18 years, so there is no hating going on here, BTW. 65.248.164.214 ( talk) 16:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
. Everyone in Iran gets the joke, or they should. I'm late for a date, set long, long ago -- for the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, to end this shit forever. Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 04:06, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Not sure if this is necessarily true, but it seems pretty obvious from what I've heard of the song: The Prophet's song was written about May's dream of The Great Flood (or the story of Noah, hence the dove). I've read this somewhere, but I can't remember where, but it makes sense. I'm pretty sure, but not sure enough to write it in. MaddenedMan 09:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
"The title was apparently chosen because if the tracks on Queen's original studio albums are numbered in sequential order starting with their first, this would be the 39th song in the sequence."
The band denies this on their website. They say the fact that it was their 39th studio song was merely a coincidence they noticed after the album had been released.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.82.35.51 ( talk • contribs).
"39 does indeed appear to deal with the time-dilation effect of near-lightspeed travel. However, at risk of being a little pedantic, there is nothing in the lyrics to suggest that 100 years have passed (tried to include link but spam-filtered, so find your own...). It is not even explicitly stated that the narrator's loved one is dead - the reprise of the line "Don't you hear my call though you're many years away" could suggest this, but then "your mother's eyes in your eyes cry to me" merely suggests a gap of a generation or so (which would still scupper most relationships!). All somewhat subjective admittedly." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.31.202.145 ( talk) 09:50, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
"OK, I'm being dense - I suppose the two successive 'years of 39' could indicate a gap of a century, which in turn would strongly suggest his loved one was no more. However I'd always interpreted this as meaning that (from the crew's perspective) they returned the same year they left. Both of these could be true I guess. Personally I never picked up on the death angle." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.31.202.145 ( talk) 09:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be "A Night At The Opera" the way it's written on the album cover? 84.108.245.222 18:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
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A number of well known albums such as Led Zeppelin IV and The Beatles' White Album have a page for every song. As this is widely considered Queen's Magnum Opus, would you reckon it would be deserving for the same to happen with this album? It's a very popular album as the article suggests, and I think it should. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.32.41.11 ( talk) 01:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
TheStig t· c 23:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
is someone vandalizing this page? The pages for Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...), Lazing o a Sunday Afternoon, I'm in Love with My Car, 39, Sweet Lady, Seaside Rendezvous, The Prophet's Song, Good Company, and God Save the Queen are gone completly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.253.215 ( talk) 01:49, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Dear all,
I noticed that there is no Charts section/table like the one in, e.g., the Innuendo or The Miracle article (with chart peak position by country, platinum/gold certification and sales). Does anyone else feel like this is missing? Should we work on adding this?
Looking forward to your opinions, Ben
-- Georgepauljohnringo ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC).
I first had A Night at the Opera on a UK release cassette so it came as a surprise when I later had the LP and CD releases and Good Company and Seaside Rendezvous had swapped positions in the track listing (I always preferred the track listing the way I first heard it). This perhaps ought to be noted on the main page but I don't know whether this different track listing was widespread or just on certain releases. Grunson ( talk) 20:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hello, I deleted the reference to Mägo de Oz as I don't think it's related to the said song. The creator may link his article to this section, but I don't think it's necessary to include this on the article. Thanks. Lynisganda01 ( talk) 23:49, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
All the tracks from this album currently have their own articles, and I'm wondering whether some of these are actually worth keeping as individual articles, or whether it would be better to merge them into this one. For example, " Good Company" contains just two references, one of which is to confirm John Deacon as bass guitarist (big deal!). The quotes by Brian May about the song are fascinating and would be worthy of keeping, but they are unsourced – anybody know where they are from? If you look at " Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...)" or " '39" most of the discussion of the song's meaning is essentially replicated in this album article, and the only extra information is about when the song has been played live. It appears that many of the song articles were created by TheStig118 and his reasoning for them is given in Talk:A Night at the Opera (Queen album)#Full song writing list above.
As an important album there's a good case for the individual song articles to be kept, but they need to be improved and the substantial overlap removed. It goes without saying that " Bohemian Rhapsody" and " You're My Best Friend" should keep their own articles, as the singles from the album and with their own chart placings, certifications, etc. Pinging Rodericksilly, Willondon, G5btb5g-2015b, Forever-AsItBegan and anyone else interested in this article for their thoughts. Richard3120 ( talk) 20:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
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Do we have a reliable source that says the album was released on 21 November 1975? It charted w/e 13 December, which would actually suggest a release date a week later on 28 November, because at the time fifteen days was the standard difference between release date and chart date. Richard3120 ( talk) 17:40, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Could this link be of some help for the release dat possibly? http://www.albumoftheyear.org/ratings/35-rolling-stone-highest-rated/1975/1 combatchuck29 ( talk) 22:25 26 October 2017
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I've had a look in the British Library for reviews of A Night at the Opera from the four major UK music magazines of the time (NME, Melody Maker, Sounds and Record Mirror), and astonishingly, it doesn't seem to have been reviewed in any of them. Whether this was because EMI refused to send copies of the album to the media for review, or whether the generally anti-Queen UK music press simply didn't bother, I have no idea – there's a review in Rolling Stone from early 1976, but I think most reviews for the "critical reception" section are going to have to be legacy ones. Richard3120 ( talk) 16:55, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't believe the review in the "Reception and legacy" section comes from Melody Maker in 1975. Firstly, it's obvious from reading the first sentence in the source ("Queen was well-known at the time of this album's debut for hard rock") that the use of the past tense shows that this is a legacy review. Secondly, the majority of the review focuses on the quality of the new mix. This isn't the type of thing Melody Maker would have covered, either in 1975 or on a subsequent reissue, despite where the source claims the article has come from – it's far more likely that this review has come from Record Collector or a specialist audiophile magazine such as Hi-Fi Choice. Richard3120 ( talk) 21:24, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
I am really excited about the WikiProject Albums and would like to help improve this Queen Album article so that it can get it's GA rating. Is there any suggestions of things I could do to help? -- Dragonriderski ( talk) 00:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
I added to composition section of "Bohemian Rhapsody" from the print book "Freddie Mercury" by Lesley-Ann Jones. Dragonriderski ( talk) 02:37, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, she did describe them as obscure.
So, I should concentrate more on good solid citations in the composition area and not worry as much about actual additions to the article. I actually had to order books from out of our library system because there wasn't anything available. It's like pulling teeth to find printed works on Queen. Dragonriderski ( talk) 23:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
George Michael performed "'39" at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert on April 20th,[4] 1992.[5][6] Dragonriderski ( talk) 01:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
I made a minor change adding the actual date (20th) of the tribute concert and my citation (4). I have no idea how to how to get rid of the two Queenzone citations (5,6). Dragonriderski ( talk) 01:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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I don't understand why was pop genre added to this album and "A Day At The Races". All the same, the source says that the genre of the album is pop in the sense that it is more a mass product, not in terms of the musical component. Alex katsenelson ( talk) 00:11, 07 September 2018 (UTC)
Un-referenced material, non-encyclopedic language, etc., etc. Where to start fixing this atrocity of an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.44.55 ( talk • contribs) 10:02, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
I suggested in the "Release date" thread above that 28 November was a more likely release date than 21 November for this album, based on charting date, and now I see the Sounds review also states that the album would be released on 28 November. Unless someone can provide a source for 21 November being the release date (which isn't sourced anywhere in the article), I'm going to change it to 28 November and cite the source. Richard3120 ( talk) 17:38, 26 December 2022 (UTC)