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Your very first example, in which Fowler speaks of "The English-speaking world" makes clear that his book is not about only "British English usage". Finn (John T) 20:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to remove the split infinitive quote - it's dull and contentless. Can anyone fix the article by explaining how that quote is "noteworthy"? If not, it's for the chop. Gronky 02:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I just added a few quotes to this article. I notice Gronky above seems to have removed a quote several months ago. I wasnt aware of that when I added the quotes (today). This book is a real treasure, and the witticisms are what make it so special. I think that this encyclopedia article should include a few of the more memorable quotes, so people who visit the article (but who have not yet read the book) can get a feel for how humorous the book is.
Anyway, if anyone thinks the quotes should be removed, please contact me first: I think they are essential to the article.
Conversely, if there are any fans of the book out there that think the quotes are worthwhile here, please speak up. Noleander ( talk) 18:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Gronky is like a person who hears some guys laughing at a joke and says. "I don't get it. What's so funny?" If you try to explain wit, the explanation always sounds a bit flat, but I can at least say the split infinitive quote is a classic statement of a hoary question. It's to the point, covers the ground neatly, and disposes of the problem for good, except among pedants. I think it has every right to be on the page. Petgoanna ( talk) 16:45, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Surely it's a usage guide rather than a style guide? It's just that a lot of people (perhaps including a lot of American style-guide publishers) don't know the difference. 86.134.10.71 ( talk) 10:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I take it from google that tubercolis is a strain of/is the microbacteria involved with tuberculosis, but can't find a reference for it in wiki or a good description in google. I'm putting this here in case someone thinks it's a misspelling of TB. Julia Rossi ( talk) 22:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
I want to thank 80.177.213.144 for adding the quote about his brother. Reading that line always brings tears to my eyes, and probably illuminates this book more than any entry every could. -- Noleander ( talk) 18:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, I have another different edition of Fowler's. It's a reprint of the first edition with new introduction and notes by David Crystal. Not sure how to cite that within Wiki's system. ISBN 978-0-19-953534-7. It's OUP again. And it's 2009. Link to OUP page: http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Reference/?view=usa&ci=9780199535347 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.143.86.159 ( talk) 17:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
In addition to being "renowned for its witty passages", it's also renowned for its idiosyncracies (and in certain cases, its flagrant eccentricities), and for Fowler's habit of inventing out of whole cloth a number of "correct usage distinctions" which had never existed in actual English language usage. AnonMoos ( talk) 10:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I came to this excellent article after ending up at the Strunk and White article. I'll be making some comments, since the TALK comments are here aging. For example, the first sentence of the article is rather 'run-on' (but excellent) and so do we like this direction of 'modern English usage' or are we just being encyclopedically critical and observant? Probably the latter. And what is a split-infinitive anyway? I did a Google-search: A famous New Yorker cartoon shows Captain Bligh sailing away from the Bounty in a rowboat and shouting, “So Mr. Christian! You propose to unceremoniously cast me adrift?” The caption beneath the cartoon reads: “The crew can no longer tolerate Captain Bligh's ruthless splitting of infinitives.” — Charles Edwin Shipp ( talk) 01:38, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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Your very first example, in which Fowler speaks of "The English-speaking world" makes clear that his book is not about only "British English usage". Finn (John T) 20:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to remove the split infinitive quote - it's dull and contentless. Can anyone fix the article by explaining how that quote is "noteworthy"? If not, it's for the chop. Gronky 02:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I just added a few quotes to this article. I notice Gronky above seems to have removed a quote several months ago. I wasnt aware of that when I added the quotes (today). This book is a real treasure, and the witticisms are what make it so special. I think that this encyclopedia article should include a few of the more memorable quotes, so people who visit the article (but who have not yet read the book) can get a feel for how humorous the book is.
Anyway, if anyone thinks the quotes should be removed, please contact me first: I think they are essential to the article.
Conversely, if there are any fans of the book out there that think the quotes are worthwhile here, please speak up. Noleander ( talk) 18:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Gronky is like a person who hears some guys laughing at a joke and says. "I don't get it. What's so funny?" If you try to explain wit, the explanation always sounds a bit flat, but I can at least say the split infinitive quote is a classic statement of a hoary question. It's to the point, covers the ground neatly, and disposes of the problem for good, except among pedants. I think it has every right to be on the page. Petgoanna ( talk) 16:45, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Surely it's a usage guide rather than a style guide? It's just that a lot of people (perhaps including a lot of American style-guide publishers) don't know the difference. 86.134.10.71 ( talk) 10:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I take it from google that tubercolis is a strain of/is the microbacteria involved with tuberculosis, but can't find a reference for it in wiki or a good description in google. I'm putting this here in case someone thinks it's a misspelling of TB. Julia Rossi ( talk) 22:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
I want to thank 80.177.213.144 for adding the quote about his brother. Reading that line always brings tears to my eyes, and probably illuminates this book more than any entry every could. -- Noleander ( talk) 18:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, I have another different edition of Fowler's. It's a reprint of the first edition with new introduction and notes by David Crystal. Not sure how to cite that within Wiki's system. ISBN 978-0-19-953534-7. It's OUP again. And it's 2009. Link to OUP page: http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Reference/?view=usa&ci=9780199535347 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.143.86.159 ( talk) 17:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
In addition to being "renowned for its witty passages", it's also renowned for its idiosyncracies (and in certain cases, its flagrant eccentricities), and for Fowler's habit of inventing out of whole cloth a number of "correct usage distinctions" which had never existed in actual English language usage. AnonMoos ( talk) 10:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I came to this excellent article after ending up at the Strunk and White article. I'll be making some comments, since the TALK comments are here aging. For example, the first sentence of the article is rather 'run-on' (but excellent) and so do we like this direction of 'modern English usage' or are we just being encyclopedically critical and observant? Probably the latter. And what is a split-infinitive anyway? I did a Google-search: A famous New Yorker cartoon shows Captain Bligh sailing away from the Bounty in a rowboat and shouting, “So Mr. Christian! You propose to unceremoniously cast me adrift?” The caption beneath the cartoon reads: “The crew can no longer tolerate Captain Bligh's ruthless splitting of infinitives.” — Charles Edwin Shipp ( talk) 01:38, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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