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Any ref I have found to this term is when ATC is unavailable, not when airspace is closed. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 17:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
And the 2nd ref goes nowhere. I've flown all over and never heard the phrase used. The first ref is one ref and I cannot find any others. Time to get this page removed. Finally Paul Beardsell ( talk) 23:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Almost all the refs I can find on the web to "ATC zero" seem to quote this article or an earlier version of it. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 09:35, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
The 9/11 Commission's report does refer to "ATC Zero" and they say what it means, which is a somewhat less than was claimed in the article:
This was not in itself a blanket ban on all aviation [although such a ban was was to follow]. Flight outside of controlled airspace was not curtailed by NY Center's closure of its airspace - and there is lots of uncontrolled airspace near New York.
I have removed ref to the commission's report [1] therefore as not supporting the original claims of this article as to the meaning of "ATC Zero".
Paul Beardsell ( talk) 10:14, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Dunno if this will help, but LiveATC.net has a recording of an incident in which BWI control tower was hit by lightning and lost power. An announcement was made "Attention all aircraft, Baltimore is going ATC Zero" and directing them to contact another tower. Here's the link (requires free forum registration to listen) - http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11024.0;attach=7383 69.251.37.117 ( talk) 16:52, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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Any ref I have found to this term is when ATC is unavailable, not when airspace is closed. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 17:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
And the 2nd ref goes nowhere. I've flown all over and never heard the phrase used. The first ref is one ref and I cannot find any others. Time to get this page removed. Finally Paul Beardsell ( talk) 23:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Almost all the refs I can find on the web to "ATC zero" seem to quote this article or an earlier version of it. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 09:35, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
The 9/11 Commission's report does refer to "ATC Zero" and they say what it means, which is a somewhat less than was claimed in the article:
This was not in itself a blanket ban on all aviation [although such a ban was was to follow]. Flight outside of controlled airspace was not curtailed by NY Center's closure of its airspace - and there is lots of uncontrolled airspace near New York.
I have removed ref to the commission's report [1] therefore as not supporting the original claims of this article as to the meaning of "ATC Zero".
Paul Beardsell ( talk) 10:14, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Dunno if this will help, but LiveATC.net has a recording of an incident in which BWI control tower was hit by lightning and lost power. An announcement was made "Attention all aircraft, Baltimore is going ATC Zero" and directing them to contact another tower. Here's the link (requires free forum registration to listen) - http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11024.0;attach=7383 69.251.37.117 ( talk) 16:52, 15 November 2013 (UTC)