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Does this expanded stuff still only count as a stub? 129.89.94.54 07:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
After some further research, it looks like there was a variant produced under Armalite license by the Bricklee Trading Company and purchased by the Israeli military. It became the "Israeli Pilot's Survival Rifle" (citation in article) CynicalMe 18:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Australian military is supposed to have used a silenced version of the Armalite .22 under designation of SAR7. Like the use by the Israeli forces, the numbers were small and were for highly specialized use. Similarly the U.S. military used small numbers of Winchester 1894 and Remington Model 8 rifles for guard purposes, nonstandard guns which appear to have been surplus from the federal prison system. Since these primarily civilian guns were not formally adopted for standard issue, it is questionable whether they should be included under miltary history. Naaman Brown ( talk) 14:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC) Designation SAR7 was used on 1978 for a proposed Australian rifle modified from the AR-18 assault rifle as a replacement for the FN FAL battle rifle (Australia adopted the Steyr AUG instead). -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 19:29, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
If you read the first few paragraphs you'll see that the fact that this weapon can be broken down to 4 component parts is repeated from one paragraph to the next but with different wording.
The SMLE bolt-action rfile was not the basis of the "Star Wars" stormtrooper blasters, the weapon used as the basis of the prop was the Sterling SMG 9-mm. L2A3. See http://uniquecanes.com/new/item_replicas_starwars_stormtrooperE11.php for details. Also, again, citations and references for everything added, please. Tychocat 12:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
This was my fault, I should have earlier caught and corrected the unverified and undocumented statements in this paragraph. Done. Tychocat 11:34, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
The section on aftermarket modifications includes detailed instructions on such topics as adding a sling. The instruction are detailed enough to include parts and catalog numbers. This should be edited down in such a way as to not read like a instruction manual while preserving any encyclopedic content. F-451 ( talk) 04:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Reasons:I strongly believe the popular culture section on the weapon is necessary for several reasons. For one many people have first known about the weapon through films, secondly the assassination use in several films has undoubtedly inspired the creators of the weapon to modify it (for example the reference to the recoil spring put in to prevent subsonic ammunition) to prevent its use in a manner the weapon was never designed for. I have moved the reference of the Paladin Press book to the popular culture section as it seems to be a more sensible place for the item. Foofbun ( talk) 23:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC) }}
The AR-7 was developed from designs for air crew survival weapons (M4, M6 and AR-5) and has become popular as a replacement for the handgun as a sidearm for hikers, campers, and outdoors users of recreational vehicles. So the mention in Hitman a purely fictional manual for contract killers is notable only as a bad joke. Naaman Brown ( talk) 17:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
¿too many unnotable cites? I notice another user has removed The AR-7 in popular culture section. I think it would be appropriate to repeat here the hidden comment that followed the section heading:
Let's face it, an article on Ford automobiles that listed every movie, book, TV show, anime, etc that included a Ford car would be a farce. Naaman Brown ( talk) 12:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Since we have lost the Pop Culture section, I took the liberty of removing this from the History and Design section:
That is not really part of history or design. In a way, the AR-7 is like the VW of movie guns; does the VW article list every movie, TV show, videogame appearance of a VW?-- Naaman Brown ( talk) 16:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Barrel length for National Firearms Act NFA purposes is measured from the muzzle to the face of the breech, with the action closed in firing position. Shorter than 16 inches is a short barreled rifle (SBR) requiring federal registration under NFA. The AR-7 is right at the legal limit. With many barrels for the AR7 rifle, the barrel is short of 16 inches by some fraction of the thickness of the rim of a .22 cartridge when the outside of the barrel is measured. As far as ATF has been concerned, a factory made AR7 rifle barrel is legally 16 inches, since measurement from muzzle to boltface is nominally 16 inches. If the muzzle is damaged, the crown can be repaired only by counterboring the muzzle. Naaman Brown ( talk) 19:33, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
With the Armalite AR-7 Explorer rifle, the bolt can be removed from the action by pulling out the bolt handle since the bolt has a full length slot for the ejector and can be removed from the action after the handle is removed.
With the Charter Arms Explorer II pistol, the bolt does not have a full length slot for the extractor, and removal of the bolt requires removal of the left stock panel, the action plate and the ejector, then you pull out the bolt handle and remove the bolt forward.
There are other, minor variations in the various iterations of the AR-7. I think it would make too much detail for a general interest article. Naaman Brown ( talk) 14:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
The rear disc of the recoil spring guide on the original ArmaLite and the Charter Arms AR-7 is solid requiring a complete disassembly of the action for removal; the Henry Survival Rifle version has a cutout allowing the bolt, recoil springs, and recoil spring guide to be removed as an assembly without disassembly of the action. Detail left in talk; main point is the Henry was redesigned for ease of maintenance. -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 16:34, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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Will someone add that in the 1964 James Bond film, From Russia With Love, Bond is issued an AR-7 by Q-branch with his special brief case that has the exploding tear gas cartridge, and hidden compartments for ammunition and gold sovereigns? Bond uses the weapon to shoot the rival Bulgarian spy who attacked the attacked the gypsey band working for Karim Bey (actually Bond passes the rifle to Karim Bey who shoots the Bulgarian while he was trying to climb down a wall). Gregory Y ( talk) 03:49, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
The use of the AR-7 in the film "From Russia With Love" is important in the movie and made a lot of people aware of the AR-7. ArmaLite AR-7 is one of the articles where the popular culture section has been a problem: see RfC: The AR-7 in Popular Culture is relevant above. Wikipedia in general tolerates PopCult sections when limited to the most significant uses of the article subjects, but when the sections get bloated with trivia, they often get totally axed. If you look at Internet Movie Firearms Database AR-7 the appearances in films, television series, and anime could easily be bigger than the rest of the article. The AR-7 is popular with movie and TV prop departments because it is modular and easily dressed up. The mention in the movie should include a link here. -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 12:01, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
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Does this expanded stuff still only count as a stub? 129.89.94.54 07:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
After some further research, it looks like there was a variant produced under Armalite license by the Bricklee Trading Company and purchased by the Israeli military. It became the "Israeli Pilot's Survival Rifle" (citation in article) CynicalMe 18:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Australian military is supposed to have used a silenced version of the Armalite .22 under designation of SAR7. Like the use by the Israeli forces, the numbers were small and were for highly specialized use. Similarly the U.S. military used small numbers of Winchester 1894 and Remington Model 8 rifles for guard purposes, nonstandard guns which appear to have been surplus from the federal prison system. Since these primarily civilian guns were not formally adopted for standard issue, it is questionable whether they should be included under miltary history. Naaman Brown ( talk) 14:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC) Designation SAR7 was used on 1978 for a proposed Australian rifle modified from the AR-18 assault rifle as a replacement for the FN FAL battle rifle (Australia adopted the Steyr AUG instead). -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 19:29, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
If you read the first few paragraphs you'll see that the fact that this weapon can be broken down to 4 component parts is repeated from one paragraph to the next but with different wording.
The SMLE bolt-action rfile was not the basis of the "Star Wars" stormtrooper blasters, the weapon used as the basis of the prop was the Sterling SMG 9-mm. L2A3. See http://uniquecanes.com/new/item_replicas_starwars_stormtrooperE11.php for details. Also, again, citations and references for everything added, please. Tychocat 12:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
This was my fault, I should have earlier caught and corrected the unverified and undocumented statements in this paragraph. Done. Tychocat 11:34, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
The section on aftermarket modifications includes detailed instructions on such topics as adding a sling. The instruction are detailed enough to include parts and catalog numbers. This should be edited down in such a way as to not read like a instruction manual while preserving any encyclopedic content. F-451 ( talk) 04:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Reasons:I strongly believe the popular culture section on the weapon is necessary for several reasons. For one many people have first known about the weapon through films, secondly the assassination use in several films has undoubtedly inspired the creators of the weapon to modify it (for example the reference to the recoil spring put in to prevent subsonic ammunition) to prevent its use in a manner the weapon was never designed for. I have moved the reference of the Paladin Press book to the popular culture section as it seems to be a more sensible place for the item. Foofbun ( talk) 23:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC) }}
The AR-7 was developed from designs for air crew survival weapons (M4, M6 and AR-5) and has become popular as a replacement for the handgun as a sidearm for hikers, campers, and outdoors users of recreational vehicles. So the mention in Hitman a purely fictional manual for contract killers is notable only as a bad joke. Naaman Brown ( talk) 17:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
¿too many unnotable cites? I notice another user has removed The AR-7 in popular culture section. I think it would be appropriate to repeat here the hidden comment that followed the section heading:
Let's face it, an article on Ford automobiles that listed every movie, book, TV show, anime, etc that included a Ford car would be a farce. Naaman Brown ( talk) 12:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Since we have lost the Pop Culture section, I took the liberty of removing this from the History and Design section:
That is not really part of history or design. In a way, the AR-7 is like the VW of movie guns; does the VW article list every movie, TV show, videogame appearance of a VW?-- Naaman Brown ( talk) 16:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Barrel length for National Firearms Act NFA purposes is measured from the muzzle to the face of the breech, with the action closed in firing position. Shorter than 16 inches is a short barreled rifle (SBR) requiring federal registration under NFA. The AR-7 is right at the legal limit. With many barrels for the AR7 rifle, the barrel is short of 16 inches by some fraction of the thickness of the rim of a .22 cartridge when the outside of the barrel is measured. As far as ATF has been concerned, a factory made AR7 rifle barrel is legally 16 inches, since measurement from muzzle to boltface is nominally 16 inches. If the muzzle is damaged, the crown can be repaired only by counterboring the muzzle. Naaman Brown ( talk) 19:33, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
With the Armalite AR-7 Explorer rifle, the bolt can be removed from the action by pulling out the bolt handle since the bolt has a full length slot for the ejector and can be removed from the action after the handle is removed.
With the Charter Arms Explorer II pistol, the bolt does not have a full length slot for the extractor, and removal of the bolt requires removal of the left stock panel, the action plate and the ejector, then you pull out the bolt handle and remove the bolt forward.
There are other, minor variations in the various iterations of the AR-7. I think it would make too much detail for a general interest article. Naaman Brown ( talk) 14:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
The rear disc of the recoil spring guide on the original ArmaLite and the Charter Arms AR-7 is solid requiring a complete disassembly of the action for removal; the Henry Survival Rifle version has a cutout allowing the bolt, recoil springs, and recoil spring guide to be removed as an assembly without disassembly of the action. Detail left in talk; main point is the Henry was redesigned for ease of maintenance. -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 16:34, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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Will someone add that in the 1964 James Bond film, From Russia With Love, Bond is issued an AR-7 by Q-branch with his special brief case that has the exploding tear gas cartridge, and hidden compartments for ammunition and gold sovereigns? Bond uses the weapon to shoot the rival Bulgarian spy who attacked the attacked the gypsey band working for Karim Bey (actually Bond passes the rifle to Karim Bey who shoots the Bulgarian while he was trying to climb down a wall). Gregory Y ( talk) 03:49, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
The use of the AR-7 in the film "From Russia With Love" is important in the movie and made a lot of people aware of the AR-7. ArmaLite AR-7 is one of the articles where the popular culture section has been a problem: see RfC: The AR-7 in Popular Culture is relevant above. Wikipedia in general tolerates PopCult sections when limited to the most significant uses of the article subjects, but when the sections get bloated with trivia, they often get totally axed. If you look at Internet Movie Firearms Database AR-7 the appearances in films, television series, and anime could easily be bigger than the rest of the article. The AR-7 is popular with movie and TV prop departments because it is modular and easily dressed up. The mention in the movie should include a link here. -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 12:01, 14 May 2018 (UTC)