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I managed to come up with this tournament bracket using Module:RoundN instead of the monstruous wikitable.
Preliminary Qualifiers | Qualifiers | Final | ||||||||||||
June 8 – Dynamite | ||||||||||||||
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June 15 – Road Rager | ||||||||||||||
![]() | 9:25 [3] | |||||||||||||
![]() | Sub | |||||||||||||
June 26 –
Forbidden Door
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June 22 – Dynamite | ||||||||||||||
![]() | 9:49 [4] | |||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
June 20 – New Japan Road | ||||||||||||||
![]() | 11:29 [1] | |||||||||||||
June 21 – New Japan Road | ||||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
![]() | 13:21 [5] | |||||||||||||
June 20 – New Japan Road | ||||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
![]() | 19:01 [1] | |||||||||||||
It's not perfect by any mean, but it might be if someone smarter than me figured a way to use node_function{canvas} and created a div that looked nicer. MordecaiXLII ( talk) 12:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
References
PacQualified
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).MiroQualified
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).BlackQualified
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).IshiiInjured
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).AEW seems to think here that it is an entirely new title with Cassidy as the inaugural champion, so both titles should be separated imo. DasallmächtigeJ ( talk) 19:20, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
You can't just say "regardless of AEW". It's their title, so they set the rules. What other sources say is irrelevant, because the title isn't their property. It's like if you get a dog, and you name him Spot, but "other sources" say his name is Rover. It's YOUR dog, so whatever name you give it is the name it goes by. Likewise, it is AEW's title, thus whatever they say regarding said title is what WE go by. "Other sources" don't get to dictate how an entity presents it's own property. Wiki policy only goes so far...it doesn't allow editors to play judge, jury, executioner, doctor, or God, and it doesn't get to make judgement about what a company chooses to do with their own property. AEW considers the International Title as the successor to the All-Atlantic Title. Then that's it, period. Nobody else in this equation matters, because it isn't their title, thus they don't get to make any say over it. Nobody can tell you what to name your dog, and nobody can tell AEW how to promote their championships. It's your dog, and AEW's title...what you say, and what they say goes respectively. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
I've made some edits (still working) to hopefully clarify that this is considered a new title so it makes sense for a reader wondering why it says both All-Atlantic and International. Let me know what you think, particularly the infobox. -- JDC808 ♫ 02:03, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
If this is the same title, the stats can all be simplified. If these are different titles, they shouldn't share a page. I have a preference (same title) but either way is better than the weird middle the page is in now. It's very messy and there's no precedent for it elsewhere.
82.41.115.174 (
talk)
16:05, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
After all the back and forth we did before, AEW has now changed their mind, and consider the International Title to be a continuation (or "leveling up" as they put it) of the All-Atlantic Championship.
Their belt, their rules, so if they want to reestablish the All-Atlantic/International Title as all one belt, they can.
Not the first time AEW has readjusted title histories, remember they retroactively gave Toni Storm credit for a Women's Title reign after all the mess about "interim champions". Vjmlhds (talk) 14:03, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
AEW has now gone ahead and officially renamed it the American Championship. As with all the other name changes this title has gone through, since it's their belt, whatever the want to call it is what we go with, since it is THEIR title. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
AEW International Championship article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
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Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
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content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||
|
I managed to come up with this tournament bracket using Module:RoundN instead of the monstruous wikitable.
Preliminary Qualifiers | Qualifiers | Final | ||||||||||||
June 8 – Dynamite | ||||||||||||||
![]() | 10:32 [2] | |||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
June 15 – Road Rager | ||||||||||||||
![]() | 9:25 [3] | |||||||||||||
![]() | Sub | |||||||||||||
June 26 –
Forbidden Door
| ||||||||||||||
June 22 – Dynamite | ||||||||||||||
![]() | 9:49 [4] | |||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
June 20 – New Japan Road | ||||||||||||||
![]() | 11:29 [1] | |||||||||||||
June 21 – New Japan Road | ||||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
![]() | 13:21 [5] | |||||||||||||
June 20 – New Japan Road | ||||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
![]() | Pin | |||||||||||||
![]() | 19:01 [1] | |||||||||||||
It's not perfect by any mean, but it might be if someone smarter than me figured a way to use node_function{canvas} and created a div that looked nicer. MordecaiXLII ( talk) 12:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
References
PacQualified
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).MiroQualified
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).BlackQualified
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).IshiiInjured
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).AEW seems to think here that it is an entirely new title with Cassidy as the inaugural champion, so both titles should be separated imo. DasallmächtigeJ ( talk) 19:20, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
You can't just say "regardless of AEW". It's their title, so they set the rules. What other sources say is irrelevant, because the title isn't their property. It's like if you get a dog, and you name him Spot, but "other sources" say his name is Rover. It's YOUR dog, so whatever name you give it is the name it goes by. Likewise, it is AEW's title, thus whatever they say regarding said title is what WE go by. "Other sources" don't get to dictate how an entity presents it's own property. Wiki policy only goes so far...it doesn't allow editors to play judge, jury, executioner, doctor, or God, and it doesn't get to make judgement about what a company chooses to do with their own property. AEW considers the International Title as the successor to the All-Atlantic Title. Then that's it, period. Nobody else in this equation matters, because it isn't their title, thus they don't get to make any say over it. Nobody can tell you what to name your dog, and nobody can tell AEW how to promote their championships. It's your dog, and AEW's title...what you say, and what they say goes respectively. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
I've made some edits (still working) to hopefully clarify that this is considered a new title so it makes sense for a reader wondering why it says both All-Atlantic and International. Let me know what you think, particularly the infobox. -- JDC808 ♫ 02:03, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
If this is the same title, the stats can all be simplified. If these are different titles, they shouldn't share a page. I have a preference (same title) but either way is better than the weird middle the page is in now. It's very messy and there's no precedent for it elsewhere.
82.41.115.174 (
talk)
16:05, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
After all the back and forth we did before, AEW has now changed their mind, and consider the International Title to be a continuation (or "leveling up" as they put it) of the All-Atlantic Championship.
Their belt, their rules, so if they want to reestablish the All-Atlantic/International Title as all one belt, they can.
Not the first time AEW has readjusted title histories, remember they retroactively gave Toni Storm credit for a Women's Title reign after all the mess about "interim champions". Vjmlhds (talk) 14:03, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
AEW has now gone ahead and officially renamed it the American Championship. As with all the other name changes this title has gone through, since it's their belt, whatever the want to call it is what we go with, since it is THEIR title. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)