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I've requested a peer review a few days ago, but I'm very busy right now, so I made a to-do list to improve the article. No-Bullet 03:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Last night, Helltopay27 added Classic metal to the genre listing. Now, this morning, an unregistered user removed it and I was just about to remove it myself when it was initally added last night, but when I read the classic metal article, it read:
"Classic metal bands are typically characterized by thumping fast basslines, not so fast heavy, but "clean", riffs, extended lead guitar solos, high pitched vocals and anthemic choruses."
Now, in my opinion, this sounds a lot like a typical AC/DC song. However, I'm not an expert in music, so, I would like everyone's opinions on whether you consider AC/DC a classic metal band or not and whether we should include this in the article before I add it back in or not. HK51 08:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd consider AC/DC to be a hard rock band, or blues rock, but not classic rock. They really made rock harder than anyone else did. Also, make sure that they are not refered to as a metal or heavy metal band, since, according to the many AC/DC biographies I've read, they seem to hate being called that. '74 Jailbreak '74 Jailbreak 16:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
'74 Jailbreak is right. They are a hard rock band. Several old copies of Rolling Stone, interviews with them, unofficial biographies, etc, all say this. They are blues influenced, with alot of scales from it. If anyone doesn't agree, I'd like to hear your comments.-- Bass Masta 09:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Nah, I wasn't suggesting they were heavy metal. I just thought the description of Classic metal - "Classic metal bands are typically characterized by thumping fast basslines, not so fast heavy, but "clean", riffs, extended lead guitar solos, high pitched vocals and anthemic choruses" - sounded a lot like a typical AC/DC song. Like I said, I'm no music expert, so I thought I'd leave this open to discussion. HK51
Could someone tell me when and where they ever said that? Until proven otherwise, I removed this from the article. Roda 18:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I was pretty happy with the external links as they were a month ago, but now I think a lot of the fairly low-quality links have been edited out and I'm pretty happy with that, though there were a few I thought should stay, link the Magazine Archives and the Crabsody in Blue site, but I won't complain if no-one else wants them there.
But what's bugging me now is the three "Profile pages" which are listed. We'd came to the conclusion a few months back that, seen as AC/DC have had so many record companies, it would be best to include them all just as "Profile pages". However. I've just watched the Live at Donington DVD and when I clicked on 'The Web' it listed http://www.acdcrocks.com as the official site, I can do a screenshot of this if anyone wants one.
So, to sum-up, I think the EL section should read as follows (also, I think we should put acdcrocks.com into the infobox as the official site):
I know it's a pretty trivial issue! But I know how controversial editing these links can be. HK51 18:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Gentlemen: Do we have to go back to link fighting again? Why did someone erase the old agreement from this page anyway? This was the old set up we agreed on and it should still carry the day, imo. Btw, accadacca.net is owned by Albert Music. Albert Music licenses Sony to sell AC/DC product. If any site is truly official, they are it since they have been AC/DC's partners for going on 33 years now. Nowhere on acdcrocks.com does it say it's the official site. You might note that Google now says accadacca.net is the official site, btw.
Oops forgot to add my ID NCC17 03:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.acdcrocks.com is listed as the Official Site on the Live at Donington DVD and seen as Epic Records is currently the label AC/DC are signed to, I'd say it's the offical site. I'm aware of the band's long history with Albert, but Epic is the label they're currently signed to, thus, their site for them is most likely the official one.
HK51 19:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not asking for a fight either. I'm simply asking for the consensus I posted above, that was agreed upon and set in stone previously by Wiki administrators, to be restored.
Nowhere in fact, in the history of this discussion, have any of those links been shown to break any of the rules by any Wiki administrator. I would still like to know why the original discussion was eliminated from this page as there were several wikipedians that concurred with my arguments during that discussion. I don't recall DownUnderThunder being there at all for any of that discussion, btw.
As for the merits of the individual links, let's go one by one, if we must.
Anyway, in conclusion, I know most of these links quite well, many of them I originally posted here under my old user ID including accadacca, bedlam, crabsody, electric shock and the mag archives.
If anything should be dropped, I'd like to suggest that we lose the highly offensive Rolling Stone link as well as that waste of site, Music Brains. Talk about links that add no merit to an AC/DC page! NCC17 19:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Hk51, no where on the WP:EL does it expressly forbid a site requiring registration! It only gives recommendations in very general terms. And that site btw, only requires registration with Yahoo. Of course Yahoo, at last check, is still the most popular site in the world. So, it's quite likely that most people reading Wikipedia would already have a free ID on Yahoo, is it not?
I also think removing Electric Shock is a mistake as well. You're talking about a website that was the bible for AC/DC fans before AC/DC even had any presence on the net. It didn't get to the 2nd spot on Google without having a ton of hits over the years. For a long time, it was the #1 ac/dc site on the web. NCC17 22:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
To No-Bullet: So you say, based on something supposedly seen on a DVD that's how old? If it is the official AC/DC site as you claim, why does it not say so anywhere on acdcrocks? You'd think they'd want to post that information prominently, if it were true??? NCC17 03:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
To HK51: I think you're misquoting wiki guidelines (not rules, btw). It's obvious that this policy is mostly an attempt to discourage sites that require a subscription. It's also my belief that it's completely relevant that Yahoo is the most popular site in the world as the EL policy is clearly only there to discourage small sites requiring registration from being posted on Wiki. (Mainly newspapers.) As far as it's newsgroup's merits, can you name another AC/DC site that has band news updated daily, even hourly at times? None of the other links posted have that uniqueness.
I've also stated why Electric Shock is unique due the knowledge of the owner and his work on what will probably prove to be the most definitive AC/DC book, which incidentally was co-authored by Murray Engleheart. If I have to tell you who that is and his relation to AC/DC's career then I would guess you don't know as much as you think you do about AC/DC.
Anyway, my point is that people come to wikipedia to get AC/DC info. Either you want to give them the best resource links out there or you don't. If all you care about is what status this article gets (which who really gives a damn, imho - certainly not the average AC/DC fan) then keep gutting the best links and limit what info can be found here. NCC17 03:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Look, I don't want to edit-war w/anyone. Especially, not like before. And my mention of Murray Engleheart was not meant as a subtle attack on you at all. I'm sorry you took it that way. What I am suggesting is that the book that will be coming out in January (in most of the world) will likely be the most definitive ac/dc tome ever available. It includes the participation and the cooperation of the actual band members which has never been done before and may not be accomplished again.
My point is that people viewing this article in the future will want to know where they can find the author's website. Not only should you look at current site information, you should look at a site's potential for accurate info in the future. That's why I support the links that I do. I would say also that much of the accurate info that's in this article comes from experts on the band like Arnaud and the owner's of the other site's that are currently linked here.
Rolling Stone & Music Brains certainly don't qualify to be here imo when you look at what info they have and what they will likely focus on in the future concerning ac/dc. However, I've compromised on them and I'm asking for your continued compromise on the links I've posted and support being here.
Btw, regarding the other issue, a screenshot from a three year old dvd does not constitute any proof of acdcrocks.com being ac/dc's official site. I can show you a picture of the Back In Black album that's brand new and they still haven't got the correct song order on it after 26 years!
Even if they have claimed that on a dvd, they do not claim it on Sony's site now. I wonder why that is??? NCC17 22:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry dude, I believe this discussion belongs here. I'm reverting back to the edit that Administrator Soothing put in place. A decision which you agreed to abide by, btw. NCC17 19:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I see somebody at IP# 156.34.142.158 has gone back to anonymous vandalism to get their way regarding the links. NCC17 20:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Another anonymous link vandal at 142.166.250.167. Gee, I wonder who could this be? NCC17 20:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Look kid, I was editing this article and other AC/DC articles under another name long before you showed up here. I've made plenty of contributions which you are ignorant of. Btw, your opinion of these disputes as being silly shows me that you have no respect for what matters to other editors.
If you make an agreement with other people you should learn to stick to that and not go back on what you've said. Okay, so you changed your mind. That doesn't mean you get your way and that doesn't give you the right to make null and void the link agreements that an entire group of editors came to, does it? No wait, you think it does...
If you wanted to change things, you shouldn't have erased the agreement we all settled upon and just decided arbitrarily that you would be the guy from now on that makes all the decisions here. NCC17 04:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey, so now you're removing Soothing's links from the talk page? What juvenile behavior! However, two can play this game.
None of these links violate the WP:EL by the way. The WP:EL is only a general guideline whose obvious purpose is to block pay sites from being listed as links on wikipedia. If you truly believe that it excludes all sites that you have to sign up for, which it does not, then you cannot possibly list acdcrocks.com here because you have to sign up on that site as well to get much of it's content.
And btw, not every editor has time to check in with this site daily or even weekly. So you waited two whole days and then you and NoBullet decided you had a new consensus and everybody is supposed to accept that? What a joke!
Okay, so NoBullet archived the discussion. Why take it off this page at all? It was a pretty important agreement that many editors had come to which, incidentally, solved a lot of problems this page was having. Now you're doing nothing but encouraging anonymous sockpuppets to constantly change things. Good going. I'm glad your ethics allow you to be okay with that. NCC17 18:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
where did you get Angus' quote? are you sure this new album will be the last one for the band? are they going to split? i know the members are gettin' old and all, but, why is this new album the last one for the band? please respond. Jailbreaker22 16:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, about a week ago, Daniel Bryant told me in my user talk page that the ac/dc article could be a FA, and i was thinking in nominate it. What do you think?? No-Bullet 19:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The DVD didn't give out a whole lot of information that wasn't already in the article :( Hmmm...I guess I could buy a book on the band or something. Either way, digging up information on AC/DC is hard! HK51 20:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is it that the artical says that Angus said the new album would be a double, yet the reference says it was Brian? Ferdiaob 02:48, 04 January 2007 (UTC)
Just out of pure curiosity, has there EVER been an official biography of AC/DC on either DVD or Book? Ive found countless unofficial ones and i know that AC/DC has an official biographer, but ive never found an officially sanctioned bio. Ferdiaob 01:37, 06 December 2006 (UTC)
I've heard that there is an official biography in the making.
There is, it's called "The Story of AC/DC: Let There Be Rock" by Susan Masino
http://www.amazon.com/Story-AC-DC-There-Rock/dp/0825634695
MwM
18:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The Artist picture of the band in the infobox is small and kind of blurry. Can someone find a better one? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Necko ( talk • contribs) 22:14, 7 December 2006.
I think we should remove that section for both articles, it just lists bands from Musicmatch and AMG. What do you think? Cheers. No-Bullet ( Talk • Contribs) 18:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Did we not agree a few months ago to use the "Classic" line-up in this section? I.e. the one with Bon Scott? It seems the most relevant to me. The Dave Evans line-up was of little impact whatsoever. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 22:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, I'll add the "Classic" line-up back in now. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 23:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, that was just what was on the archive page when I copy/pasted it; Cliff Williams is probably more relevent. Well then we should find an alternative to the word "Classic", because I just don't see the point of having the Dave Evans/Original line-up there, that line-up just wasn't important; they only released one single IIRC, which was later re-recorded., therefore, I don't know why people think D. Evans deserves a special mention in that section over Bon Scott.
User:209.105.206.97 wants the Dave Evans line-up there (from my talk page) "because that is what the earlist lineup is", but I don't see the point in that argument. It's the earliest line-up sure, but why should it get preference over a Bon Scott line-up? ĤĶ51→ Łalk 16:36, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
The member timeline page is: Past members of AC/DC. I see a relevance to a Bon Scott line-up in that Scott is very integral to the story, it was with him the band earned their international success. Having said that, you're right, it is hard to justify any line-up as "Classic", so I'd be happy with just the current line-up there, just as long as the Dave Evans line-up isn't placed there as well. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 23:07, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't think there should be a classic lineup section. classic is an opinion. Wikipedia deals in facts, not opinions. I consider the first line up the original lineup. I also think that bon scott was the best singer of the three; also that brian johnson was the most influential. we should just classify the lineups by date, not by which one was the classic one or not. Captanpluto123 05:52, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Since Orane mentioned in the FA nomination that the lead section does not meet the criteria. I think we should rewrite the section, so I've been trying this in my sandbox ( User:No-Bullet/Sandbox). What do you think? No-Bullet ( Talk • Contribs) 23:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I think its a good start; but i don't like all of it. I don't think you should call acdc a heavy metal band. the band is very offended by the term, as well am I. i don't think acdc sounds remotely like led zepplin. but besides that, its great. Captanpluto123 05:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
where in the world did you find this upcoming dvd? you need to cite this or it will be removed. Jailbreaker22 23:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
i noticed the dvd was removed. looks like no one cited it. Jailbreaker22 16:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I have seen the DVD in UK and it states "Made in Germany" and cites "VEO STAR ENTERTAINMENT GMBH" all of which looks OK? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.4.206.104 ( talk • contribs) 03:54, 18 December 2006.
I've just requested a peer review for the former FLC List of tributes to AC/DC in popular culture and I'd be grateful if anyone here could give any feedback on it. Its peer review sub-page is located here: Wikipedia:Peer review/List of tributes to AC/DC in popular culture/archive1. Thanks. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 11:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Well only one of the members, the rest are either English or Scottish. Please make that clearer. 82.34.1.182 15:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Both Malcolm and Angus are from Australia. They founded the band in Australia, therefore making the band Australian.
Is this sentence, "The track selection of this album was heavily weighted towards the more recent T.N.T. and included only two songs from their first LP, Little Lover and She's Got Balls", supposed to mean:
Random Passer-by 17:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I've been copy editing AC/DC and in my opinion the following sentence is half meaningless rock-journalese and detracts from the encyclopedic tone of an otherwise excellent article but I haven't removed it (so interested editors can discuss this among themselves):
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help)</ref >. Is it from a booklet released in the box set Bonfire? Or a news article or press release about Bonfire?
Random Passer-by
13:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)"goings-on" in the following sentence probably ought to be replaced with something more descriptive (suggestions welcome): "A music concept video with the same name, Fly on the Wall, featured the band at a bar, playing five of the album's ten songs, with various additional goings-on including an animated fly." (My apologies that I didn't sign this yesterday). Random Passer-by 01:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
While I've been copy editing, IP 138.130.161.241 changed "Sydney" to "Adelaide" in the History section. It's the only contribution from that IP. I'm drawing it to your attention because I don't know if it's a correction by an anonymous editor or vandalism (most of the google hits say they moved to Sydney) and I don't want it to be missed because all my minor edits push it off the article's first history page. I've reverted it for now. Random Passer-by 10:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm done. I've left a note at the League of Copy editors and another editor should eventually proofread my work. In the meantime the regular editors should check to ensure I haven't accidentally altered the meaning of the article while I was copy editing. If you make further changes, or if specific changes are requested during the article's FAC, and you want me back then please feel free to leave a note on my talk page in addition to the League of Copy editors. Good luck with achieving featured article status and in the future. Random Passer-by 14:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
"Rudd finished most of the drum tracks for the next album but he was replaced by Simon Wright after the band held an anonymous audition."
Not true. Rudd did ALL of Flick Of The Switch, not most.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.157.229.60 ( talk) 04:34, 12 January 2007
Grammar was correct the first time. AC/DC is a band. AC/DC are members of a band. Not AC/DC are a band. Jerry lavoie 16:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
The lead had 'are' originally, thus, seen as you've stated both are correct, it should stay. Everything else in the article must be converted to have 'band' as plural for consistancy. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 21:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
In other matters of English variation, it seems that "in the charts" is the UK phrase, while "on the charts" is the North American phrase. During a copyedit, I innocently converted "in" to "on", but you are welcome to revert them. – Outriggr § 04:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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I've requested a peer review a few days ago, but I'm very busy right now, so I made a to-do list to improve the article. No-Bullet 03:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Last night, Helltopay27 added Classic metal to the genre listing. Now, this morning, an unregistered user removed it and I was just about to remove it myself when it was initally added last night, but when I read the classic metal article, it read:
"Classic metal bands are typically characterized by thumping fast basslines, not so fast heavy, but "clean", riffs, extended lead guitar solos, high pitched vocals and anthemic choruses."
Now, in my opinion, this sounds a lot like a typical AC/DC song. However, I'm not an expert in music, so, I would like everyone's opinions on whether you consider AC/DC a classic metal band or not and whether we should include this in the article before I add it back in or not. HK51 08:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd consider AC/DC to be a hard rock band, or blues rock, but not classic rock. They really made rock harder than anyone else did. Also, make sure that they are not refered to as a metal or heavy metal band, since, according to the many AC/DC biographies I've read, they seem to hate being called that. '74 Jailbreak '74 Jailbreak 16:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
'74 Jailbreak is right. They are a hard rock band. Several old copies of Rolling Stone, interviews with them, unofficial biographies, etc, all say this. They are blues influenced, with alot of scales from it. If anyone doesn't agree, I'd like to hear your comments.-- Bass Masta 09:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Nah, I wasn't suggesting they were heavy metal. I just thought the description of Classic metal - "Classic metal bands are typically characterized by thumping fast basslines, not so fast heavy, but "clean", riffs, extended lead guitar solos, high pitched vocals and anthemic choruses" - sounded a lot like a typical AC/DC song. Like I said, I'm no music expert, so I thought I'd leave this open to discussion. HK51
Could someone tell me when and where they ever said that? Until proven otherwise, I removed this from the article. Roda 18:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I was pretty happy with the external links as they were a month ago, but now I think a lot of the fairly low-quality links have been edited out and I'm pretty happy with that, though there were a few I thought should stay, link the Magazine Archives and the Crabsody in Blue site, but I won't complain if no-one else wants them there.
But what's bugging me now is the three "Profile pages" which are listed. We'd came to the conclusion a few months back that, seen as AC/DC have had so many record companies, it would be best to include them all just as "Profile pages". However. I've just watched the Live at Donington DVD and when I clicked on 'The Web' it listed http://www.acdcrocks.com as the official site, I can do a screenshot of this if anyone wants one.
So, to sum-up, I think the EL section should read as follows (also, I think we should put acdcrocks.com into the infobox as the official site):
I know it's a pretty trivial issue! But I know how controversial editing these links can be. HK51 18:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Gentlemen: Do we have to go back to link fighting again? Why did someone erase the old agreement from this page anyway? This was the old set up we agreed on and it should still carry the day, imo. Btw, accadacca.net is owned by Albert Music. Albert Music licenses Sony to sell AC/DC product. If any site is truly official, they are it since they have been AC/DC's partners for going on 33 years now. Nowhere on acdcrocks.com does it say it's the official site. You might note that Google now says accadacca.net is the official site, btw.
Oops forgot to add my ID NCC17 03:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.acdcrocks.com is listed as the Official Site on the Live at Donington DVD and seen as Epic Records is currently the label AC/DC are signed to, I'd say it's the offical site. I'm aware of the band's long history with Albert, but Epic is the label they're currently signed to, thus, their site for them is most likely the official one.
HK51 19:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not asking for a fight either. I'm simply asking for the consensus I posted above, that was agreed upon and set in stone previously by Wiki administrators, to be restored.
Nowhere in fact, in the history of this discussion, have any of those links been shown to break any of the rules by any Wiki administrator. I would still like to know why the original discussion was eliminated from this page as there were several wikipedians that concurred with my arguments during that discussion. I don't recall DownUnderThunder being there at all for any of that discussion, btw.
As for the merits of the individual links, let's go one by one, if we must.
Anyway, in conclusion, I know most of these links quite well, many of them I originally posted here under my old user ID including accadacca, bedlam, crabsody, electric shock and the mag archives.
If anything should be dropped, I'd like to suggest that we lose the highly offensive Rolling Stone link as well as that waste of site, Music Brains. Talk about links that add no merit to an AC/DC page! NCC17 19:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Hk51, no where on the WP:EL does it expressly forbid a site requiring registration! It only gives recommendations in very general terms. And that site btw, only requires registration with Yahoo. Of course Yahoo, at last check, is still the most popular site in the world. So, it's quite likely that most people reading Wikipedia would already have a free ID on Yahoo, is it not?
I also think removing Electric Shock is a mistake as well. You're talking about a website that was the bible for AC/DC fans before AC/DC even had any presence on the net. It didn't get to the 2nd spot on Google without having a ton of hits over the years. For a long time, it was the #1 ac/dc site on the web. NCC17 22:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
To No-Bullet: So you say, based on something supposedly seen on a DVD that's how old? If it is the official AC/DC site as you claim, why does it not say so anywhere on acdcrocks? You'd think they'd want to post that information prominently, if it were true??? NCC17 03:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
To HK51: I think you're misquoting wiki guidelines (not rules, btw). It's obvious that this policy is mostly an attempt to discourage sites that require a subscription. It's also my belief that it's completely relevant that Yahoo is the most popular site in the world as the EL policy is clearly only there to discourage small sites requiring registration from being posted on Wiki. (Mainly newspapers.) As far as it's newsgroup's merits, can you name another AC/DC site that has band news updated daily, even hourly at times? None of the other links posted have that uniqueness.
I've also stated why Electric Shock is unique due the knowledge of the owner and his work on what will probably prove to be the most definitive AC/DC book, which incidentally was co-authored by Murray Engleheart. If I have to tell you who that is and his relation to AC/DC's career then I would guess you don't know as much as you think you do about AC/DC.
Anyway, my point is that people come to wikipedia to get AC/DC info. Either you want to give them the best resource links out there or you don't. If all you care about is what status this article gets (which who really gives a damn, imho - certainly not the average AC/DC fan) then keep gutting the best links and limit what info can be found here. NCC17 03:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Look, I don't want to edit-war w/anyone. Especially, not like before. And my mention of Murray Engleheart was not meant as a subtle attack on you at all. I'm sorry you took it that way. What I am suggesting is that the book that will be coming out in January (in most of the world) will likely be the most definitive ac/dc tome ever available. It includes the participation and the cooperation of the actual band members which has never been done before and may not be accomplished again.
My point is that people viewing this article in the future will want to know where they can find the author's website. Not only should you look at current site information, you should look at a site's potential for accurate info in the future. That's why I support the links that I do. I would say also that much of the accurate info that's in this article comes from experts on the band like Arnaud and the owner's of the other site's that are currently linked here.
Rolling Stone & Music Brains certainly don't qualify to be here imo when you look at what info they have and what they will likely focus on in the future concerning ac/dc. However, I've compromised on them and I'm asking for your continued compromise on the links I've posted and support being here.
Btw, regarding the other issue, a screenshot from a three year old dvd does not constitute any proof of acdcrocks.com being ac/dc's official site. I can show you a picture of the Back In Black album that's brand new and they still haven't got the correct song order on it after 26 years!
Even if they have claimed that on a dvd, they do not claim it on Sony's site now. I wonder why that is??? NCC17 22:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry dude, I believe this discussion belongs here. I'm reverting back to the edit that Administrator Soothing put in place. A decision which you agreed to abide by, btw. NCC17 19:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I see somebody at IP# 156.34.142.158 has gone back to anonymous vandalism to get their way regarding the links. NCC17 20:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Another anonymous link vandal at 142.166.250.167. Gee, I wonder who could this be? NCC17 20:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Look kid, I was editing this article and other AC/DC articles under another name long before you showed up here. I've made plenty of contributions which you are ignorant of. Btw, your opinion of these disputes as being silly shows me that you have no respect for what matters to other editors.
If you make an agreement with other people you should learn to stick to that and not go back on what you've said. Okay, so you changed your mind. That doesn't mean you get your way and that doesn't give you the right to make null and void the link agreements that an entire group of editors came to, does it? No wait, you think it does...
If you wanted to change things, you shouldn't have erased the agreement we all settled upon and just decided arbitrarily that you would be the guy from now on that makes all the decisions here. NCC17 04:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey, so now you're removing Soothing's links from the talk page? What juvenile behavior! However, two can play this game.
None of these links violate the WP:EL by the way. The WP:EL is only a general guideline whose obvious purpose is to block pay sites from being listed as links on wikipedia. If you truly believe that it excludes all sites that you have to sign up for, which it does not, then you cannot possibly list acdcrocks.com here because you have to sign up on that site as well to get much of it's content.
And btw, not every editor has time to check in with this site daily or even weekly. So you waited two whole days and then you and NoBullet decided you had a new consensus and everybody is supposed to accept that? What a joke!
Okay, so NoBullet archived the discussion. Why take it off this page at all? It was a pretty important agreement that many editors had come to which, incidentally, solved a lot of problems this page was having. Now you're doing nothing but encouraging anonymous sockpuppets to constantly change things. Good going. I'm glad your ethics allow you to be okay with that. NCC17 18:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
where did you get Angus' quote? are you sure this new album will be the last one for the band? are they going to split? i know the members are gettin' old and all, but, why is this new album the last one for the band? please respond. Jailbreaker22 16:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, about a week ago, Daniel Bryant told me in my user talk page that the ac/dc article could be a FA, and i was thinking in nominate it. What do you think?? No-Bullet 19:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The DVD didn't give out a whole lot of information that wasn't already in the article :( Hmmm...I guess I could buy a book on the band or something. Either way, digging up information on AC/DC is hard! HK51 20:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is it that the artical says that Angus said the new album would be a double, yet the reference says it was Brian? Ferdiaob 02:48, 04 January 2007 (UTC)
Just out of pure curiosity, has there EVER been an official biography of AC/DC on either DVD or Book? Ive found countless unofficial ones and i know that AC/DC has an official biographer, but ive never found an officially sanctioned bio. Ferdiaob 01:37, 06 December 2006 (UTC)
I've heard that there is an official biography in the making.
There is, it's called "The Story of AC/DC: Let There Be Rock" by Susan Masino
http://www.amazon.com/Story-AC-DC-There-Rock/dp/0825634695
MwM
18:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The Artist picture of the band in the infobox is small and kind of blurry. Can someone find a better one? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Necko ( talk • contribs) 22:14, 7 December 2006.
I think we should remove that section for both articles, it just lists bands from Musicmatch and AMG. What do you think? Cheers. No-Bullet ( Talk • Contribs) 18:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Did we not agree a few months ago to use the "Classic" line-up in this section? I.e. the one with Bon Scott? It seems the most relevant to me. The Dave Evans line-up was of little impact whatsoever. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 22:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, I'll add the "Classic" line-up back in now. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 23:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, that was just what was on the archive page when I copy/pasted it; Cliff Williams is probably more relevent. Well then we should find an alternative to the word "Classic", because I just don't see the point of having the Dave Evans/Original line-up there, that line-up just wasn't important; they only released one single IIRC, which was later re-recorded., therefore, I don't know why people think D. Evans deserves a special mention in that section over Bon Scott.
User:209.105.206.97 wants the Dave Evans line-up there (from my talk page) "because that is what the earlist lineup is", but I don't see the point in that argument. It's the earliest line-up sure, but why should it get preference over a Bon Scott line-up? ĤĶ51→ Łalk 16:36, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
The member timeline page is: Past members of AC/DC. I see a relevance to a Bon Scott line-up in that Scott is very integral to the story, it was with him the band earned their international success. Having said that, you're right, it is hard to justify any line-up as "Classic", so I'd be happy with just the current line-up there, just as long as the Dave Evans line-up isn't placed there as well. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 23:07, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't think there should be a classic lineup section. classic is an opinion. Wikipedia deals in facts, not opinions. I consider the first line up the original lineup. I also think that bon scott was the best singer of the three; also that brian johnson was the most influential. we should just classify the lineups by date, not by which one was the classic one or not. Captanpluto123 05:52, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Since Orane mentioned in the FA nomination that the lead section does not meet the criteria. I think we should rewrite the section, so I've been trying this in my sandbox ( User:No-Bullet/Sandbox). What do you think? No-Bullet ( Talk • Contribs) 23:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I think its a good start; but i don't like all of it. I don't think you should call acdc a heavy metal band. the band is very offended by the term, as well am I. i don't think acdc sounds remotely like led zepplin. but besides that, its great. Captanpluto123 05:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
where in the world did you find this upcoming dvd? you need to cite this or it will be removed. Jailbreaker22 23:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
i noticed the dvd was removed. looks like no one cited it. Jailbreaker22 16:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I have seen the DVD in UK and it states "Made in Germany" and cites "VEO STAR ENTERTAINMENT GMBH" all of which looks OK? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.4.206.104 ( talk • contribs) 03:54, 18 December 2006.
I've just requested a peer review for the former FLC List of tributes to AC/DC in popular culture and I'd be grateful if anyone here could give any feedback on it. Its peer review sub-page is located here: Wikipedia:Peer review/List of tributes to AC/DC in popular culture/archive1. Thanks. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 11:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Well only one of the members, the rest are either English or Scottish. Please make that clearer. 82.34.1.182 15:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Both Malcolm and Angus are from Australia. They founded the band in Australia, therefore making the band Australian.
Is this sentence, "The track selection of this album was heavily weighted towards the more recent T.N.T. and included only two songs from their first LP, Little Lover and She's Got Balls", supposed to mean:
Random Passer-by 17:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I've been copy editing AC/DC and in my opinion the following sentence is half meaningless rock-journalese and detracts from the encyclopedic tone of an otherwise excellent article but I haven't removed it (so interested editors can discuss this among themselves):
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13:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)"goings-on" in the following sentence probably ought to be replaced with something more descriptive (suggestions welcome): "A music concept video with the same name, Fly on the Wall, featured the band at a bar, playing five of the album's ten songs, with various additional goings-on including an animated fly." (My apologies that I didn't sign this yesterday). Random Passer-by 01:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
While I've been copy editing, IP 138.130.161.241 changed "Sydney" to "Adelaide" in the History section. It's the only contribution from that IP. I'm drawing it to your attention because I don't know if it's a correction by an anonymous editor or vandalism (most of the google hits say they moved to Sydney) and I don't want it to be missed because all my minor edits push it off the article's first history page. I've reverted it for now. Random Passer-by 10:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm done. I've left a note at the League of Copy editors and another editor should eventually proofread my work. In the meantime the regular editors should check to ensure I haven't accidentally altered the meaning of the article while I was copy editing. If you make further changes, or if specific changes are requested during the article's FAC, and you want me back then please feel free to leave a note on my talk page in addition to the League of Copy editors. Good luck with achieving featured article status and in the future. Random Passer-by 14:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
"Rudd finished most of the drum tracks for the next album but he was replaced by Simon Wright after the band held an anonymous audition."
Not true. Rudd did ALL of Flick Of The Switch, not most.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.157.229.60 ( talk) 04:34, 12 January 2007
Grammar was correct the first time. AC/DC is a band. AC/DC are members of a band. Not AC/DC are a band. Jerry lavoie 16:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
The lead had 'are' originally, thus, seen as you've stated both are correct, it should stay. Everything else in the article must be converted to have 'band' as plural for consistancy. ĤĶ51→ Łalk 21:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
In other matters of English variation, it seems that "in the charts" is the UK phrase, while "on the charts" is the North American phrase. During a copyedit, I innocently converted "in" to "on", but you are welcome to revert them. – Outriggr § 04:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)