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Date of extension from Derby to M1 and Mansfield is given from memory (it was the same time as Derby inner ring road IIRC).
Could we add a list of primary destinations on the road. 20:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)~~
Does anyone feel the recent edits do not really add anything to the article? It just seems to make the article longer with too many links, while not adding too much useful information. How would people feel about reverting to the [ previous version] by SmackBot? jenuk1985 ( talk) 00:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I recall that in the 1990's (I think, as I was young at the time) the slip roads at the Marsh Mills junction were replaced by a pioneering method of sliding the newly constructed slip roads into place. As this was so new at the time I remember that the Italian President or PM came to witness this. Does anyone remember why the replacement was needed, when it took place or any further information? After brief searching, all I found was a mention by the company that carried it out ( HOCHTIEF (UK) Construction). If we can get more info/refs it should be good to put into the 'Improvements' Section. Zangar ( talk) 15:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
I think I've finally found something to give a vague date towards this at the Independant Online. So it looks as if it was carried out in the mid 1990s and was due to concrete cancer, this should narrow down the searching! Also, are we able to use current and old OS maps as references, eg for how a road changed over time? Zangar ( talk) 02:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I moved a lot of detail from the route section into the improvements section, as a result of this I split the improvements into counties, which seemed the most appropriate at the time (bear in mind, these sections will expand quite a bit over the coming days/weeks). But on the other hand, I feel it may be a bit excessive, does anybody have any suggestions on a better way to split this? There may be too many (major) improvements to realistically split into a section for each improvement as is commonly done on roads pages. Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
I felt that something like this should be put up for discussion before just including in the article, I don't think its been done before on a roads related, but would a table of notable locations, with an image and coords be useful?
Image | Name | County | Coords |
---|---|---|---|
Dobwalls Bypass | Cornwall | 50°27′37″N 4°31′06″W / 50.460263°N 4.518428°W | |
Tamar Bridge | Cornwall / Devon | 50°24′29″N 4°12′14″W / 50.408107°N 4.203944°W | |
Former southern end of the Cullompton bypass | Somerset | 50°49′11″N 3°24′30″W / 50.819713°N 3.408288°W |
And so on and so on...
Obviously it should be a fairly limited list, I've only included examples above. I think I have seen a similar thing used on a River article, but I can't for the life of me remember where! Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Nice start, but...
I just added some proper formatting into the {{ coord}} templates and a {{ kml}} template which displays a nice box on the right side of the page with google maps link to all the coords listed. Having said that, the table is a duplicate of an existing Wikipedia POI table. Take a look at River Parrett and Glastonbury Canal for two different versions of the same table that I worked on a while back. The former uses a GB-derivative of the latter, displaying OSGB map reference as well as regular coords. I'm not a big fan of OSGB coords myself so I would suggest we use the form in the Glastonbury canal article. Using the table has the advantage of consistency and it takes care of all the twiddly bits in the coord template for you.-- TimTay ( talk) 21:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
b.t.w. My vote would be a definite no for images. Add them into the A38 category in Commons (see the link in the External Links section for existing photos) and add the odd image in the article itself. If you have an image on every row the table will be huge. If you don't have an image on every row the table will look very odd with rows of different heights. Therefore my preference is no images. -- TimTay ( talk) 21:31, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I feel we need something about the by-passing of Sutton Coldfield (the old A38 is now, I believe, the A5127), but I'm not qualified to supply dates etc. Jan1naD ( talk • contrib) 16:12, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
The photo of the junction with the M5 at Droitwich is out of date, as one of the two roundabouts has been turned into a signal-controlled semi-roundabout. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sslaxx ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, have reverted my query. Have just seen the article on Bristol Airport. Well done, Simple Bob, your edit stands. Dieter Simon ( talk) 02:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
is the A38 or the A6 the longest in england? I think it might be the A6 C. 22468 ( talk) 10:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Given that part of the route of the A38 is declassified in the centre of Bristol, does some clarification need to be made about the fact it's not the longest continuous (2 digit?) A road in the UK? Ccw34 ( talk) 12:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
I propose that the Devon Expressway article be merged into A38 road. "Devon Expressway" is simply branding and only appears on a few signs at the start and end of the route, the route from Exeter to Plymouth was not even purpose built but was the result of joining several bypassed around towns. There is nothing different about this road to any other grade separated dual carriageway. I don't consider a separate article to be justified. ZoeL ( talk) 20:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Never having seen any such signs on that section of the A38 myself, I am sceptical about the "Typical route confirmation sign seen on the Devon Expressway" image. (Even if they do exist – having been newly installed? – the shade of green used is much too light!) -- Picapica ( talk) 09:40, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation that it wasn't just me (not) seeing things, William. Having now checked the image file on Wikimedia Commons I see that it was created in 2009, so I think this really is a case of an "invented" sign. I'll remove the illustration. -- Picapica ( talk) 20:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I've since come across one route confirmation sign headed Devon Expressway -- on the northbound carriageway after the Tamar Bridge crossing (see http://goo.gl/maps/pFwQc) -- but no evidence that this "branding" is repeated anywhere else. -- Picapica ( talk) 10:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
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I'm surprised that there is no mention of the very famous (at the time reportedly the worst road traffic accident in England) crash on the (then) three lane stretch between Berkeley Road and Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, on the evening of Thursday 18th October 1962 when a youth club minibus from Filton collided with an Express Carrier lorry travelling from Gloucester, both in the centre lane at the junction for Claypits next to the Mercury Café. 11 adults and young people in the minibus died either at the scene, or later at Gloucester Hospital. The news was so tragic (two families wiped out) that the Bristol Evening Post unusually ran a lunchtime edition on the Friday. My understanding is that this accident was important in that it led to a Ministerial Review of the use three lane, but single, carriageways in the UK. The A38 at this point has since been reduced from the three lanes that it was to single carriageway plus cycle lanes either side. Andywebby ( talk) 13:53, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
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Date of extension from Derby to M1 and Mansfield is given from memory (it was the same time as Derby inner ring road IIRC).
Could we add a list of primary destinations on the road. 20:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)~~
Does anyone feel the recent edits do not really add anything to the article? It just seems to make the article longer with too many links, while not adding too much useful information. How would people feel about reverting to the [ previous version] by SmackBot? jenuk1985 ( talk) 00:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I recall that in the 1990's (I think, as I was young at the time) the slip roads at the Marsh Mills junction were replaced by a pioneering method of sliding the newly constructed slip roads into place. As this was so new at the time I remember that the Italian President or PM came to witness this. Does anyone remember why the replacement was needed, when it took place or any further information? After brief searching, all I found was a mention by the company that carried it out ( HOCHTIEF (UK) Construction). If we can get more info/refs it should be good to put into the 'Improvements' Section. Zangar ( talk) 15:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
I think I've finally found something to give a vague date towards this at the Independant Online. So it looks as if it was carried out in the mid 1990s and was due to concrete cancer, this should narrow down the searching! Also, are we able to use current and old OS maps as references, eg for how a road changed over time? Zangar ( talk) 02:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I moved a lot of detail from the route section into the improvements section, as a result of this I split the improvements into counties, which seemed the most appropriate at the time (bear in mind, these sections will expand quite a bit over the coming days/weeks). But on the other hand, I feel it may be a bit excessive, does anybody have any suggestions on a better way to split this? There may be too many (major) improvements to realistically split into a section for each improvement as is commonly done on roads pages. Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
I felt that something like this should be put up for discussion before just including in the article, I don't think its been done before on a roads related, but would a table of notable locations, with an image and coords be useful?
Image | Name | County | Coords |
---|---|---|---|
Dobwalls Bypass | Cornwall | 50°27′37″N 4°31′06″W / 50.460263°N 4.518428°W | |
Tamar Bridge | Cornwall / Devon | 50°24′29″N 4°12′14″W / 50.408107°N 4.203944°W | |
Former southern end of the Cullompton bypass | Somerset | 50°49′11″N 3°24′30″W / 50.819713°N 3.408288°W |
And so on and so on...
Obviously it should be a fairly limited list, I've only included examples above. I think I have seen a similar thing used on a River article, but I can't for the life of me remember where! Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Nice start, but...
I just added some proper formatting into the {{ coord}} templates and a {{ kml}} template which displays a nice box on the right side of the page with google maps link to all the coords listed. Having said that, the table is a duplicate of an existing Wikipedia POI table. Take a look at River Parrett and Glastonbury Canal for two different versions of the same table that I worked on a while back. The former uses a GB-derivative of the latter, displaying OSGB map reference as well as regular coords. I'm not a big fan of OSGB coords myself so I would suggest we use the form in the Glastonbury canal article. Using the table has the advantage of consistency and it takes care of all the twiddly bits in the coord template for you.-- TimTay ( talk) 21:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
b.t.w. My vote would be a definite no for images. Add them into the A38 category in Commons (see the link in the External Links section for existing photos) and add the odd image in the article itself. If you have an image on every row the table will be huge. If you don't have an image on every row the table will look very odd with rows of different heights. Therefore my preference is no images. -- TimTay ( talk) 21:31, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I feel we need something about the by-passing of Sutton Coldfield (the old A38 is now, I believe, the A5127), but I'm not qualified to supply dates etc. Jan1naD ( talk • contrib) 16:12, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
The photo of the junction with the M5 at Droitwich is out of date, as one of the two roundabouts has been turned into a signal-controlled semi-roundabout. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sslaxx ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, have reverted my query. Have just seen the article on Bristol Airport. Well done, Simple Bob, your edit stands. Dieter Simon ( talk) 02:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
is the A38 or the A6 the longest in england? I think it might be the A6 C. 22468 ( talk) 10:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Given that part of the route of the A38 is declassified in the centre of Bristol, does some clarification need to be made about the fact it's not the longest continuous (2 digit?) A road in the UK? Ccw34 ( talk) 12:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
I propose that the Devon Expressway article be merged into A38 road. "Devon Expressway" is simply branding and only appears on a few signs at the start and end of the route, the route from Exeter to Plymouth was not even purpose built but was the result of joining several bypassed around towns. There is nothing different about this road to any other grade separated dual carriageway. I don't consider a separate article to be justified. ZoeL ( talk) 20:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Never having seen any such signs on that section of the A38 myself, I am sceptical about the "Typical route confirmation sign seen on the Devon Expressway" image. (Even if they do exist – having been newly installed? – the shade of green used is much too light!) -- Picapica ( talk) 09:40, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation that it wasn't just me (not) seeing things, William. Having now checked the image file on Wikimedia Commons I see that it was created in 2009, so I think this really is a case of an "invented" sign. I'll remove the illustration. -- Picapica ( talk) 20:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I've since come across one route confirmation sign headed Devon Expressway -- on the northbound carriageway after the Tamar Bridge crossing (see http://goo.gl/maps/pFwQc) -- but no evidence that this "branding" is repeated anywhere else. -- Picapica ( talk) 10:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
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I'm surprised that there is no mention of the very famous (at the time reportedly the worst road traffic accident in England) crash on the (then) three lane stretch between Berkeley Road and Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, on the evening of Thursday 18th October 1962 when a youth club minibus from Filton collided with an Express Carrier lorry travelling from Gloucester, both in the centre lane at the junction for Claypits next to the Mercury Café. 11 adults and young people in the minibus died either at the scene, or later at Gloucester Hospital. The news was so tragic (two families wiped out) that the Bristol Evening Post unusually ran a lunchtime edition on the Friday. My understanding is that this accident was important in that it led to a Ministerial Review of the use three lane, but single, carriageways in the UK. The A38 at this point has since been reduced from the three lanes that it was to single carriageway plus cycle lanes either side. Andywebby ( talk) 13:53, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hello fellow Wikipedians. BTW I have reduced the amount of major junctions on this page from 58 to 7 by narrowing it down to just motorways. Thank you. Roads4117 ( talk) 17:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)