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I removed this because it's significance is highly dubious. Posting phony death hoaxes on /b/ is an ongoing thing, and has probably been done for any number of high profile celebrities. The ones that actually take off, though, like Kanye and Jeff Goldblum, don't gain any more steam from /b/ as they do somewhere else. The Kanye hoax wasn't just on 4chan, but it was commented on heavilly there (leading some to believe that "Oh, it's 4chan, they must have started it.") It's usually the product of a group of people that simultaniously work together to spread the info, citing each other as proof, where the hivemind takes over from there.
If the death hoaxes were huge enough to actually be reported by today's ridiculous media without fact-checking (as they often do not do), then that would be worth adding to the celebrity-in-question's page, rather than trying to pin it to a specific source (which is 100% uncitable). Gpia7r ( talk) 20:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
After some googling I've found many respectable sources that provide a point of view about 4chan as a website that permits racist commentary and hate speech, but instead, not enough reference to this topic is found in the curent revision of the article, there are many sources out there confirming this, besides KTTV's report. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.211.251 ( talk) 16:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Going to have to agree with the anon editor on this one. There have been attempts to sensationalize racist material on 4chan, notably Fox News but these attempts are just that, attempts to sensationalize a non-issue. Voiceofreason01 ( talk) 19:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, considering that the IQ of the average 4chan poster is well below 70 I think they do indeed mean it and actually find it funny. -- Caligasti —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.134.58.84 ( talk) 10:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Why is the line about Moot being a former member of "SomethingAwful.com" included in the article? The fact is trivia, at best, and trivia is to be avoided. I'm sure it was added by someone trying to promote the site, and it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.163.22.236 ( talk) 08:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Seems odd that this is missing. I've been searching for the answer but have yet to yield anything. Is there any information on the cause of death? Krushia ( talk) 22:33, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
I can confirm he threw himself in front of a train in Frankston.
^ lulz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.169.234.225 ( talk) 22:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
On November 24, 2009 at 13:46 Estonian time, a 18-year old Estonian boy posted a threat on 4chan to carry on a school shooting in the Commercial High-School of Tartu ( et:Tartu Kommertsgümnaasium), a high school in Tartu, Estonia. The boy was arrested on the following day. [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
On November 25 Tartu Kommertsgümnaasium was closed to students as a safety precaution because the boy who posted the threat was not yet caught. On the same day two other high-schools in Tartu received bomb threats [10] [11]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.190.29.65 ( talk) 19:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone find a reliable source that correctly attributes chanology as starting at 711chan and migrating to 4chan, rather than the other way around as the article currently implies? I haven't had much luck with google. Throwaway85 ( talk) 06:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not trolling but there's only two mentions of Pedobear on WP and no proper explanation. It might be a popular meme but it passed me by. -- Alastair Rae ( talk) 16:41, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
The Alianon Presently Known as Coal: Your instant deletion will be your decidance of unworth of the following. Just because you do not understand worddensity (like memedensity, but theoretically useful), does not mean other people (Australians mostly) do not
Yeah, he's there. He was invented by 2chan, and transmigrated via copypasta to 4chan, from one name or another, to pedobear, with possibly some stops in between. He was on occasion, durring a unspoken movement, disguised as running bear, but that fizzled out as the simple fact the /b/ quality has a half-life of seven months (as well as a usage doublelife of i think 1 1/2 to 3 years). That is roughly it. of course, i have this info in 40 megapixels, but... it may not be 'viral' (and death to the one who coined), but quite virulent. Have have been anon since spring of 04. do not question me. njoi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.251.96.205 ( talk) 18:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
here. I'm surprised nobody had added anything from this yet, seeing as it came out a couple months ago, and because it has a lot about 4chan and project chanology. estemshorn ( talk| contrib) 23:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
There is a thread on /b/ about moot right now which has an image where users supposedly discovered his real life identity to be Richard Goins. There are a couple whois reports, but I'm not very familiar with how that works. I can provide the image if needed. It might be worth looking into. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darktangent ( talk • contribs) 08:23, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
It's Chris Poole: http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/poole-testimony.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.89.193.63 ( talk) 04:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there is some sort of error in the article; some one has changed the rickroll-section to duckroll, which, you know, is kind of funny, but not really true. Can any moderators fix this? 87.54.33.250 ( talk) 09:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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No, the duckroll was first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.160.8 ( talk) 00:17, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
This page needs serious editing lots of things that can be added like new raids and new memes and perhaps what is done to those posting illegal content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous21211 ( talk • contribs) 00:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
If any other website had half the content 4chan has they'd be raided. 70.57.26.44 ( talk) 06:37, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/verizon_blocks_4chan.php ... please add this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.154.2.20 ( talk) 11:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Please add this from Verizon Wireless 2/8/2010: http://policyblog.verizon.com/BlogPost/697/ProtectingOurCustomersandOurNetwork.aspx
Protecting Our Customers and Our Network
Jim Gerace posted in PolicyBlog Wireless on February 08, 2010, 03:50 PM ESTThe most important thing we offer? Our network. When our network is attacked, or at risk of attack in a way that could harm our customers' ability to make and receive calls, or use wireless multimedia and data services, we jump to action.
Recently, Verizon Wireless security and external experts detected attacks from an IP address associated with the 4Chan family of web sites that was disruptive to our customers and our network. To protect both, we eliminated connectivity to the IP address. At no time was 4Chan itself blocked. Ongoing network security team monitoring has now determined there is no longer an immediate threat. Connectivity to those sites is being restored later today.
Typically, these attacks involve someone sending hundreds of thousands of messages to wireless devices to round up active customer addresses for follow-up activity including hacker attacks. These “sweeps” can jam our network and deliver unwanted electronic messages that also can drain customer devices’ battery life and slow their operation.
We take being the nation's most reliable wireless network seriously. Seriously enough to protect our customers and our network from malicious attacks, even if we get dinged in the blogosphere. It's easy to complain about "blocking" when your wireless data connection is stable, fast and reliable. But try connecting to the web from your Droid or Blackberry when attacks slow - and potentially block - use of our network all together.
We monitor against attacks and potential attacks to ensure the integrity of the Verizon Wireless network. Our customers expect nothing less.
162.115.236.104 ( talk) 22:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC) JNels
4Chan is apparently either a victim or supporter of Operation Titstorm because their homepage is covered in pornographic images.(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29#Operation_Titstor and http://www.4chan.org/). I believe this should be archived in the 4Chan page however editing for that page has been blocked. If there is anyone who can edit that page I ask that they do so. JackRendar ( talk) 11:39, 11 February 2010 (UTC -6)
WHOIS suggests 2004. http://www.whois.net/whois/4chan.org MrJontyH ( talk) 12:44, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the whois is correct, but for a short amount of time the domain was 4chan.net (which now redirects to .org). 121.216.207.209 ( talk) 07:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
often used within the community to mock contributors showing an unhealthy interest in under-age girls What the fuck? *looks at source*... this is a joke, right? Completely unreliable source. NineNineTwoThreeSix ( talk) 05:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Another point: The references to "American incarnation", Europe, Poland and Malta make no sense. This is not some fad that spreads geographically, and the sentence seem to be written by someone who doesn't understand how 4chan in particular and the internet in general works.
88.91.87.46 (
talk) 14:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Should there be a mentioning about the new Facebook connection and the April Fool's day prank of Web 2.0 takeover? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.239.208 ( talk) 05:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Also, in October of 2010, /b/ agressively trolled a memorial page on FB that was being used to call for wearing of purple on 10/20/10 to commemorate victims of anti-gay bullying, highlighting Tyler Clementi and 5 other higly-publicized cases. The troll attack included use of scripted posts and images supplied at /b/, images from /b/ of popular memes such as "Son: I am homosex/Dad: I am dissapoint", use of Guy Fawkes masks for fake profiles, "For the lulz", and "an hero". Signed, eponymous (not logged in) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.234.115 ( talk) 05:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The source linked wasn't a reliable source and is a WP:BLP violation. Neither of the reliable sources (one of which doesn't even work) name the individual, nor do they indicate that anyone by this name was convicted of abusing a cat. They also likely wouldn't since the individual is a minor. Not sure when that was added, but if there is other content in the article of that nature its status as a FA should be revisted as that kind of stuff would completely invalidate it.-- Crossmr ( talk) 08:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
This is minor, but thought I'd bring it up. The article says, "4chan was started in 2003 in the bedroom of a 15-year old student from New York City", but the Wall Street Journal referenced says he grew up in suburban New York (near NYC). — Sebquantic ( talk) 20:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
I recently made changes to the Triforce section which were promptly removed along with the original paragraph for not having any verifiability. There is a page on Know Your Meme, along with various other sites containing either information about Triforcing or information about how to achieve one. Surely if an editor hadn't have removed the section they would have sufficed. Thanks, DotComCairney 11:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
You should note that moot has also said he is working on a new project and has registered the domain of canv.as. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.36.88 ( talk) 11:13, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
http://www.ted.com/talks/christopher_m00t_poole_the_case_for_anonymity_online.html
Brought here as reference material, for later use. KyuuA4 ( Talk:キュウ) 20:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
It was touched upon briefly in the AT&T section, but the extent of the situation I believe requires a bit more coverage. Kimmo Alm, the owner of AnonTalk, has gone so far as to make death threats against moot, and is one of the most prolific spammers 4chan has ever seen. One of 4chan's subdomains, a textboard called Tinychan found at http://tiny.4chan.org has been a particular target, with Alm claiming that it is an "illegal clone" of his work. I haven't contributed to Wikipedia in many years, but I find this to be fascinating. It is also notable that AnonTalk, or Kimmo Alm rather has targeted Wikipedia with his spam. He has tried to advertise his various sites here, and I believe URLs of his sites are to this day blacklisted because of the spamming. It is also worth noting, on the AT&T section, that AnonTalk lost it's domain name for refusing to take down a link to a torrent full of child pornography. Simply put it should say "AnonTalk" instead of "AnonTalk.com," since that URL now redirects to an unrelated anonymous BBS. These events definitely meet the notability standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.50.90.217 ( talk) 05:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I support this. Gunlog Alm ( talk) 04:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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Quite honestly, Pedobear is not used only to indicate a liking toward prepubescent girls but also boys. This sentence should be corrected:
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Thanks. - 98.19.145.226 ( talk) 22:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
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Specifically under "Media Attacks" -> "Internet Attention" -> 6th paragraph, the BBC article does not report that 4chan itself claimed responsibility, but simply certain 4chan members which have no affiliation with 4chan as an organization. 129.21.129.74 ( talk) 23:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I propose to add the current "hacking" of youtube. 4chan has used this code (sorry, cannot place code without messing with the html script of this page) to place a scrolling marque of text in the comment section of youtube, disallowing other comments to be posted and embedded links to work on the webpage. Among other invalid links was the "Flag as Inappropriate" button, allowing pornography, redirection links and other inappropriate content to be hosted on youtube.com. 4chan.org has archived the thread, and the raid is documented on "Knowyourmeme.com". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.64.150 ( talk) 13:16, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
This needs to be added in media attention: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10506482.stm Sherenk ( talk) 06:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
All of the past events involving Justin Bieber (Last FM Hacking, Posting Gore on his official Facebook, Sending him to North Korea, etc.) should be added to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dude018219293 ( talk • contribs) 19:46, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
There are no hard evidence that can show that 4chan did anything bad with justin bieber.I would love to see actual evidence and not only some wild hypothesis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Portugueseboy123 ( talk • contribs) 22:32, 8 July 2010 (UTC) — Portugueseboy123 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
http://www.nickburcher.com/2010/07/north-korea-justin-bieber-will-not-be.html ;this HAS to be in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.20.146.253 ( talk) 00:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
m00t is not living with his mother, unemployed. If you watch the TED video, which is already referred to in this article, he says that he is living in an apartment and is working.
This should be fixed. 173.57.61.233 ( talk) 06:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
M00t had to testify in the Sarah Palin email hack case to describe 4chan. It includes a lot of very basic descriptions of the site and the boards, so it would be useful. PDF here. Steven Walling 18:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
I would be changing this myself, but the article is locked (which is probably for the best).
I am refering to the line "In July 2010, members of 4chan launched a campaign of bullying and harassment against an 11-year-old girl, resulting in her being placed under police protection."
In order for this line to remain in this wikipedia page, you must do several things.
1) Provide a reliable source which states that it was 4chan users behind these attacks
2) Provide irrefutable proof that these attacks were part of some orgnaised campaign, rather than each person simply responding to this girl individually.
1 and 2 should cover verifyable, although I already know that neither of these can occur so I don't know why I'm even writing this.
3) Rewrite it in a neutral tone. Also a staple of wikipedia's rules. That line was clearly written by someone who did not see the video of Jessie threatening to "pop a glock in [people's] mouth and make a brain slushie." It was written by someone who first heard of this person after the story reached mainstream news, and who never visited 4chan to find their perspective.
So we have a line in an article in wikipedia that is making moral judgements about unverified events without even presenting the point of view of those it has condemned.
My ideal solution is to delete the offending line, the entire Jessie Slaughter event is not a significant one in the history of 4chan, and takes up valuable space that could be more easily replaced with much more interesting and informative matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.56.71.50 ( talk) 10:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Someone needs to update the picture, because they've added a new board since the current picture was taken. -- 70.134.48.188 ( talk) 17:25, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Now THAT'S a good source - [13] 159.182.1.4 ( talk) 13:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
This month's Technology Review article about moot & 4chan, by Julian Dibbell, is probably an even better source: [14]. Dreamyshade ( talk) 17:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The irish times deems to require a login to work fully, so the article should possibly be flagged as so. Not everyone is willing to be pressurised to put their details on the net when referring to a source. Other than that, great article. Thanks.-- Cymbelmineer ( talk) 19:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Its been rumored that they had a major influence in the voting, using proxxys to help RAAM beat Breen. I don't know if this is true, but if it is it should be added.
Spencer102 ( talk) 01:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC) Why do I have to type for tildes?
sup /wp/
Any reason not to move moot to his own page instead of a subsection? It's getting huge. -- Jamiew ( talk) 18:10, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
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In the moot section, I believe there is a citation needed for the following statement, since it is not clear on the former citation (102):
'moot also explained to the court the nature of the data given to the FBI as part of the search warrant, including how users can be uniquely identified from site audit logs.'
The citation 102 also could be moved to right after the word "lurker" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Igour ( talk • contribs) 20:23, 29 September 2010
I mean the in-line citations are higgledepiggledy. They really need formatting. See here for a good example of uncluttered citations for a "disputed" "hot-topic".-- Zucchinidreams ( talk) 01:45, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Concerns with this article's featured status include 1c and 2c concerns about the quality of citation formatting, and the use of inappropriate sources (4chan threads are used to source conclusions unsupportable from the direct data, including the popularity on 4chan of particular elements of memes). Web citations still need to be full citations, with page title, hosting site, publisher (if relevant) author, date, etc. I encourage the community of editors to discuss and fix these small issues. Fifelfoo ( talk) 03:41, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Well as you all may know, tumblr is being under attacked by 4chan. Reason being is because tumblr members are posting memes from 4chan without giving them credit. I'm on 4chan's side, tumblr is becoming more of a 'wannabe' imageboard than a blogging site. My 2cents Anyways, probably someone would like to include the event in the article as its only been 2 days since the attack was planned and a few thousands accounts on tumblr got locked up by 4chan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.139.239 ( talk) 07:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Editors may be interested in expressing an opinion in relation to the RfC at File talk:4chan front page 2010.png#RfC: ought 4chan front page 2010.png be updated to a version using the current front page of 4chan. Fifelfoo ( talk) 09:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, new to Wikipedia but under the moot section it should be noted 4chan is experiencing a spam attack where everyone's posts are changed to to "puddi puddi" while a song of the same name played from an imbedded youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10BxYZqa1Q&feature=player_embedded. A few of the images posted claimed moot was "killing the cancer" that had predominated board culture (especially /b/) through the forced use of image expression. 06:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
mention of 888chan should be made, as it is a similar in format and content to 4chan and it is the organiser of project chantology. 888chan contains most of the memes and the meme anonymous is far more used in ti than 4chan,
If you mention 888chan then you also need to mention 7chan, 12chan, 420chan... Vhomod33 ( talk) 15:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC) /b/ is only one of the boards on 4chan, and the anonymous group organizing the attacks come from anonops.net, not 4chan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.6.33 ( talk) 04:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
There's an over 9000 thing under project chanology. I'm too lazy to fix it, if making an account would even allow me to do that, but I'm sure one of you handsome people will do it for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.222.72.153 ( talk) 19:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Might well have some personal involvement with the subject of this article. Maybe we should put a template up with that users name with it on the top of the page, like we do with other users who arew involved with the subject of an article.-- Malleus Felonius ( talk) 22:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Well, as long as we're following WP:COI|Wikipedia Conflict of Interest Guidelines to an affine degree, then I guess there really is no argument. I suppose this has been settled, which is great, thank you for clearing it up, Resident. Malleus Felonius ( talk) 16:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Please remove "TIME TO FUCK THIS PAGE UP" Rikos.k ( talk) 20:59, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
The article currently uses the word "invasion" as if everyone knows what that means when it refers to a website. There should be a definition or a link to a definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.110.101 ( talk) 06:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
You spelled Anonymous wrong. —Preceding
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71.66.100.195 (
talk) 06:58, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Done Possibly
WP:NOTNEWS here, as the outage was fairly short lived.--
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(talk to me) 08:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
I think it should be noted that even this event could not have avoided being "lulzified" as NEDM (standing for not even doom music) is a meme involving said cat. -- 68.94.200.69 ( talk) 14:34, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
"4chan users have a reputation for being immature pranksters whose bad behavior is encouraged by the site's total anonymity and the absence of an archive." [16] Some part of this could be emphasized after the first sentence in the 4chan#Internet_attacks section. It would be useful in expressing the observed attitude of 4chan users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aoszkar ( talk • contribs) 10:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I would argue that contrary to suggestions that the 4chan wiki page include memes, or similarly, that there be a devoted page for 4chan memes outside its official one, that memes be separated entirely from association with purely 4chan. Without citing articles, I would suspect that few if any 4chan members exist purely on 4chan, i.e., that there are people who ONLY contribute or engage with 4chan, and therefore that memes are ubiquitous across many individual sites, and established only after they have permeated the larger web. To suggest that any meme can be confirmed to have been originated at 4chan, would be highly suspect. bradleygriffith ( talk) 18:31, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
What about a section on WikiLeaks? This is surely a major event, why so silent about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.207.97 ( talk) 23:06, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Adding the "missing" catalog mode to the External links might be a good idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.50.37 ( talk) 17:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
This edit cited "previously removed per WP:BLPNAME)". I don't recall seeing anything about a previous editorial consensus for there to be no name mentioned. I would argue that being arrested and charged with a crime eliminates someone's normal assumption of privacy.
Not interested in edit warring about it though. Sugar-Baby-Love ( talk) 21:55, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't mention be made of the fact that 4chan is imminently closing? moot lost the ad contract for the site and it will not be renewed. Most of the servers are already offline leaving the site painfully slow. Will a new paragraph be added shortly? AmyNelson ( talk) 04:22, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The whole board is now read only. Apparently users have migrated to 789chan. AmyNelson ( talk) 00:22, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Please don't call me a troll. The site WAS read only, for an hour, then came back. The site is currently down except for the front page. The down times, read only times, and extreme slowness, coupled with some other factors are what is causing many users to say it is closely imminently. I merely thought I could discuss it on the discussion page as it seemed relevant. AmyNelson ( talk) 23:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
What exactly makes this significant? This event seems to have been cherry-picked out of the many that occur on 4chan every year and mentioned simply because it involves Wikipedia. It should be removed. -- 2.98.187.84 ( talk) 22:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
All of the information about moot is currently on the 4chan page..
But, moot is notable for many more things than 4chan, such as Canvas and even being the inspiration of Anonymous, should he have his own article or not? SalfEnergy ( talk) 19:58, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm a co-owner and co-founder of a site called Yotsuba Society, or the "Society for the Study and Preservation of Yotsuba Channel". It's a website dedicated to study and preservation of the Western Imageboard Culture. Is is OK that I include a link to the site on the main 4chan page of Wikipedia? Jkid4 ( talk) 23:49, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
This doesn't seem like a very good description, seeing as the most frequented boards are about nothing in particular, video gaming, and porn. Perhaps someone would back one side or the other up? 173.180.124.102 ( talk) 13:46, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I see no criticism section here. I have read in over 14 news articles at least a minimum of criticism against 4chan, especially how minors are attracted to the site, how there is next to no moderation on specific boards, the mess of trying to find a thread in a fast-paced browsing board, the thought of "making one bisexual/gay" (I don't know if this can be considered critisism, but I read it anyhow) and some minor other things. Should I add sentences if I have the sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.82.83.62 ( talk) 10:40, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
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In the Pedobear subsection there is a mention of sexual interest in "underage children" - it seems to imply that there are children who are more than 18 years old.
I would simply change it to, "children". 88.149.154.119 ( talk) 15:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
{{edit semi-protected}} Today, /hc/ is available again. In the article, it's just specified that /hc/ was deleted but nothing about now. Could we modified it? :D Evoliofly ( talk) 17:58, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
The "DDoS Attacks" part of "Media attention" needs to be updated to include the latest DDoS mentioned on status.4chan.org that has caused the site to go down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.152.92 ( talk) 07:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Do we need the paragraph discussing /soc/, /r9k/, and /new/? I don't think they are really notable. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 05:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I removed this sentence During the 2011 South by Southwest festival, 4chan founder Christopher Poole commented on the growing My Little Pony following, because it's really saying nothing. he commented on the following. Wow, great, so what? What was his comment? Even if we don't quote it, did he give it a thumbs up, thumbs down, did he say anything at all other than "Yeah there sure are a lot of ponies on /b/"? Otherwise this is simply WP:TRIVIA because nothing of value is really said in this sentence.-- Crossmr ( talk) 23:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
This journalist's name is misspelled (as "Matthias"). Please correct to "Mattathias." Thank you. Jtropp1 ( talk) 18:48, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/internet/feds-raid-boys-home-over-4chan-child-porn-post I don't know which section to put it. Are you ready for IPv6? ( talk) 00:56, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Could somebody please edit the section of Memes: My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic so that it is not biased? Somebody edited the section to represent their views of the meme, not the general public's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.183.0.67 ( talk) 18:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
As of 6th Dec 4chan.org is removed from BT DNS servers and attempts to access the IP directly are blocked. This affects all the BT UK ISP users. Please add this to the list of ISP Bans on the main article (as the article is semi-locked). Thanks. (86.150.90.218)
Most of the memes on said file (one with 15 faces) are never used on 4chan anymore, for the ones that were it's at least a year or two out of date. Several of them were never on 4chan to begin with, such as the "Me Gusta" image and the vectorized versions of photos (Although the source photos for the latter were at one point used as "reaction images"-pictures posted alongside a post in order to represent one's personal reaction to the thread or a specific post. It's clear somebody just went on knowyourmeme.com or reddit (which recycles most of 4chan's old content in their rage comic or other subreddits) and copy-pasted a few images into a file. — Preceding unsigned comment added by T3haxle ( talk • contribs) 23:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Hardring ( talk) 00:37, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Why is it under the memes section? Sure, 4chan helped make it popular to internet users, but that doesn't make it a meme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.29.221 ( talk) 05:41, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Please note that the general 4chan user hates my little pony. Also it's not a meme. It's a TV-show, that's something entirely different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.107.11.61 ( talk)
Can you prove that please? -- Spazturtle !DERP/3/PiM Talk 16:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Kusaga ( talk) keeps removing MLP from the article. The remixes, image macros, etc fit the definition of meme (or internet phenomenon) as does its spread. There are several reliable sources that document it. It's as documented as an other "4chan meme". He should move to the talk page to build consensus first before making such a change. It should be noted that there is legitimate disdain for MLP among many members of 4chan, especially the anime boards. This is irrelevant as to whether it should be included or not. Nowhere does it say that "4chan memes" have to have universal acceptance. Remember the strong distain by many for Boxxy? The reliable sources are the most important, so it should be included. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 12:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC) WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not an argument. It doesn't matter if a lot of the internet hates MLP or not. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 12:37, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
It is not a 4chan meme because the 4chan users do not enjoy it, and it is forbidden to post ponies on 4chan, so it should not be in the meme section. It should however be in the article since it has spread from 4chan, just not in the meme section. Kusaga ( talk) 14:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
you are wrong, pony poster do get banned, just accept that you are wrong, they are not a meme, and should not be under the meme section. I do agree the should be in the article, just not in the meme section.
MLP did come from 4chan, but it is not liked on 4chan so not a meme on 4chan.
Kusaga (
talk) 16:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Moot just created /mlp/ - Pony. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 05:59, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Hey there, I'm not here to cause any trouble, but the editors on the (quite horrible) 9gag article seem insistent on including a piece of information that relates to 4chan as well, so I am just wondering if it is worthy of noting it on the 4chan page too? The paragraph in question reads as follows : "In January 2012, some members of 9Gag were blamed for 4Chan reportedly engaging in a cyber-bullying attack on Facebook memorial pages of 15-year-old suicide victim Amanda Cummings, posting offensive pictures and comments mocking her death." Aleksandar Bulovic' ( talk) 16:06, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
The reference for the blurb on "Lucas Henderson", specifically states that Mr. Henderson is facing charges "for allegedly posting counterfeit coupons on zoklet.net". As the arrest is only tangentially related to 4chan, it doesn't really fit. Ignofibininious ( talk) 02:46, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
In the 4chan community, -fag is used as a neutral suffix used on the boards to describe its users, i.e. variant form of "-person"
e.g. "Newfag", "Oldfag", "Drawfag", "Writefag", "Namefag", ect.
Anyone else think this is worthy of noting on the article? Lightsaber Guy ( talk) 18:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Tripcodes are mentioned in Imageboard - here, in the third paragraph. (When I make links, I do actually check them to make sure the thing they wind up at is what I want - unlike people who e.g. link to tree when they want the datastructure and don't bother to check it and wind up leaving the article with a link to the green thing.) I thought about making the link a piped link direct to Imageboard (to avoid the redirect) but decided not to because if someone, someday, writes a tripcode article, the link from 4chan will be right without having to go back and undo the bypass. And while Imageboard might be linked from 4chan, unless someone happens to click on that link and read the entire article thoroughly, they won't have any idea that if they need to know what a 'tripcode' might be, they need to go back and click on the Imageboard link. (I didn't know what a 'tripcode' was, which is why I added the link. So I can indeed verify that the link to Imageboard wasn't very useful in elucidating its meaning for me.) Noel (talk) 04:55, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
http://vps.tinyboard.org/chans/rank.txt is automatically generated every week err I mean hour, and lists the post rate of 4chan boards, as well as other *chan website boards, by posts/hour, posts/day, /posts/year, and % of total site, and lists them in a rank. The accuracy of these rankings are quite solid and reliable, however would it constitute
WP:OR if I cited these figures within the article? --
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From here:
# About This script routinely checks the total amount of posts on each board (by finding the highest post ID on the first page). It will produce comprehensive graphs (by day, week, month and year) for individual imageboards as well as some *chan/board comparison graphs. The script uses PHP, bash and rrdtool.
# Limitations These graphs and the ranking are very accurate, but the script does have some extremely minor inaccuracies: - If you "sage" a thread past the first page, it will go unnoticed until someone makes a post after you. (The bot doesn't actually have to see every post to be 100% accurate, just the latest post.) - If a post is deleted shortly after it's made it will go unnoticed (until someone posts after it).
All content assumed to be public domain. You may clone it as many times as possible.
See also http://vps.tinyboard.org/chans/README.txt and http://vps.tinyboard.org/chans/chans.txt for additional information. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 11:57, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I suggest you update the photo of the homepage as more boards have been put in place and it is an old picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.8.157.32 ( talk) 21:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
We need to allow this page to be open for edits, as I have not seen any disruption for a few months, even when the article was unlocked a few years ago. 140.198.45.66 ( talk) 01:21, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
The page opens with:
Users generally post anonymously, with the most popular posts appearing above the rest.
This would seem to imply a reddit-style page where the most popular posts show first, which is completely wrong. Latest posts show first, i.e. "bumped" threads, like most forums (of course most popular threads have more posts, thus you are more likely to see them on top, but that's a different thing). I suggest to change it to:
Users generally post anonymously, with the most recent posts appearing above the rest.
which is a bit more clear IMO. 188.79.140.169 ( talk) 19:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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I have some doubts in this event. Do people have more sources on this? This is affecting 4chan's image among asian users. 1.161.42.221 ( talk) 09:59, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
(outdent) If I have been too belligerent in my speech, then I apologise; when things like this do occur it does get quite confronting. As long as you understand that the point of making contributions to Wikipedia is to be constructive, then that's fine, and I'll ease up on you a bit. I however still would like to disagree with removing the statements from the article, and hope that we can come to an agreement or some sort of compromise.
These two news articles do not specifically mention 4chan, however report on Eri closing her Twitter account due to obscenity attacks:
Thus, it isn't a dubious statement that her Twitter was closed due to attacks and abuse. Then we have the Sina.com article affirming that some attacks came from 4chan, either in full or in portion (which isn't up to Wikipedia to report or decide, per WP:OR). Each reference builds on top of other references, thus verifying the statement. If you want to deny that the attacks came from /a/, and instead /v/ or /sp/ or whatever, we have the archives for that. I'd also like to make a mention that whenever 2ch is involved in a political incident concerning specific Japanese politicians, 2ch is never referred to by name, and instead "a certain discussion website" is used per standard journalism protocol in Japan, which is why the two Japanese sources do not mention any websites. Since this generally is a Japan issue, I don't there expect there to be English-language sources any time soon, especially since the likes of CNN don't particular care about Japanese anime voice actresses compared to news readers in China, Korea and Japan. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 00:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Need reliable sources. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 14:47, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
How ironic that 4chan//a/ is getting "epic trolled" here too by an /b/-tier troll. 5 users can be rewritten as "a handful of users" and cited by news sources that are notoriously inaccurate at reporting ongoings at 4chan. Next thing, there'll be a blurb on how Anonymous blew up random vans on the streets[1]. [1] - Fox news investigation video. 121.6.52.236 ( talk) 16:12, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
To put all this into perspective, here is a link to news coverage in English: Animenewsnetwork reporting about the topic Most notable is the following: "Voice actress Eri Kitamura also announced that her agency deleted her Twitter account, after she received a number of offensive messages regarding an unproven personal involvement with Kokoro Connect's producer Takahiro Yamanaka.", a link to Kitamura's blog where she makes this statement can be found in the linked article. This makes it pretty obvious that /a/'s involvement in the whole issue was rather coincidental and minor, in fact no sane person would assume that somebody with more than 20000 followers on Twitter would shut down her account merely because a couple of random foreigners send pictures of their penises. The real reason was that Kitamura was already being harassed by lots of Japanese "fans". The paragraph in question should either be removed or changed to better represent the given facts. Personally I'd vote for removal because this kind of topic is rather something for the yellow press to get excited about, but I'll leave that up to other editors. 80.141.150.229 ( talk) 09:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Just some info coming in http://pastebin.com/Pu2hADMc . Ald™ ¬_¬™ 11:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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I removed this because it's significance is highly dubious. Posting phony death hoaxes on /b/ is an ongoing thing, and has probably been done for any number of high profile celebrities. The ones that actually take off, though, like Kanye and Jeff Goldblum, don't gain any more steam from /b/ as they do somewhere else. The Kanye hoax wasn't just on 4chan, but it was commented on heavilly there (leading some to believe that "Oh, it's 4chan, they must have started it.") It's usually the product of a group of people that simultaniously work together to spread the info, citing each other as proof, where the hivemind takes over from there.
If the death hoaxes were huge enough to actually be reported by today's ridiculous media without fact-checking (as they often do not do), then that would be worth adding to the celebrity-in-question's page, rather than trying to pin it to a specific source (which is 100% uncitable). Gpia7r ( talk) 20:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
After some googling I've found many respectable sources that provide a point of view about 4chan as a website that permits racist commentary and hate speech, but instead, not enough reference to this topic is found in the curent revision of the article, there are many sources out there confirming this, besides KTTV's report. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.211.251 ( talk) 16:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Going to have to agree with the anon editor on this one. There have been attempts to sensationalize racist material on 4chan, notably Fox News but these attempts are just that, attempts to sensationalize a non-issue. Voiceofreason01 ( talk) 19:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, considering that the IQ of the average 4chan poster is well below 70 I think they do indeed mean it and actually find it funny. -- Caligasti —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.134.58.84 ( talk) 10:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Why is the line about Moot being a former member of "SomethingAwful.com" included in the article? The fact is trivia, at best, and trivia is to be avoided. I'm sure it was added by someone trying to promote the site, and it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.163.22.236 ( talk) 08:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Seems odd that this is missing. I've been searching for the answer but have yet to yield anything. Is there any information on the cause of death? Krushia ( talk) 22:33, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
I can confirm he threw himself in front of a train in Frankston.
^ lulz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.169.234.225 ( talk) 22:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
On November 24, 2009 at 13:46 Estonian time, a 18-year old Estonian boy posted a threat on 4chan to carry on a school shooting in the Commercial High-School of Tartu ( et:Tartu Kommertsgümnaasium), a high school in Tartu, Estonia. The boy was arrested on the following day. [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
On November 25 Tartu Kommertsgümnaasium was closed to students as a safety precaution because the boy who posted the threat was not yet caught. On the same day two other high-schools in Tartu received bomb threats [10] [11]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.190.29.65 ( talk) 19:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone find a reliable source that correctly attributes chanology as starting at 711chan and migrating to 4chan, rather than the other way around as the article currently implies? I haven't had much luck with google. Throwaway85 ( talk) 06:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not trolling but there's only two mentions of Pedobear on WP and no proper explanation. It might be a popular meme but it passed me by. -- Alastair Rae ( talk) 16:41, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
The Alianon Presently Known as Coal: Your instant deletion will be your decidance of unworth of the following. Just because you do not understand worddensity (like memedensity, but theoretically useful), does not mean other people (Australians mostly) do not
Yeah, he's there. He was invented by 2chan, and transmigrated via copypasta to 4chan, from one name or another, to pedobear, with possibly some stops in between. He was on occasion, durring a unspoken movement, disguised as running bear, but that fizzled out as the simple fact the /b/ quality has a half-life of seven months (as well as a usage doublelife of i think 1 1/2 to 3 years). That is roughly it. of course, i have this info in 40 megapixels, but... it may not be 'viral' (and death to the one who coined), but quite virulent. Have have been anon since spring of 04. do not question me. njoi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.251.96.205 ( talk) 18:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
here. I'm surprised nobody had added anything from this yet, seeing as it came out a couple months ago, and because it has a lot about 4chan and project chanology. estemshorn ( talk| contrib) 23:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
There is a thread on /b/ about moot right now which has an image where users supposedly discovered his real life identity to be Richard Goins. There are a couple whois reports, but I'm not very familiar with how that works. I can provide the image if needed. It might be worth looking into. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darktangent ( talk • contribs) 08:23, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
It's Chris Poole: http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/poole-testimony.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.89.193.63 ( talk) 04:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there is some sort of error in the article; some one has changed the rickroll-section to duckroll, which, you know, is kind of funny, but not really true. Can any moderators fix this? 87.54.33.250 ( talk) 09:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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No, the duckroll was first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.160.8 ( talk) 00:17, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
This page needs serious editing lots of things that can be added like new raids and new memes and perhaps what is done to those posting illegal content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous21211 ( talk • contribs) 00:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
If any other website had half the content 4chan has they'd be raided. 70.57.26.44 ( talk) 06:37, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/verizon_blocks_4chan.php ... please add this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.154.2.20 ( talk) 11:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Please add this from Verizon Wireless 2/8/2010: http://policyblog.verizon.com/BlogPost/697/ProtectingOurCustomersandOurNetwork.aspx
Protecting Our Customers and Our Network
Jim Gerace posted in PolicyBlog Wireless on February 08, 2010, 03:50 PM ESTThe most important thing we offer? Our network. When our network is attacked, or at risk of attack in a way that could harm our customers' ability to make and receive calls, or use wireless multimedia and data services, we jump to action.
Recently, Verizon Wireless security and external experts detected attacks from an IP address associated with the 4Chan family of web sites that was disruptive to our customers and our network. To protect both, we eliminated connectivity to the IP address. At no time was 4Chan itself blocked. Ongoing network security team monitoring has now determined there is no longer an immediate threat. Connectivity to those sites is being restored later today.
Typically, these attacks involve someone sending hundreds of thousands of messages to wireless devices to round up active customer addresses for follow-up activity including hacker attacks. These “sweeps” can jam our network and deliver unwanted electronic messages that also can drain customer devices’ battery life and slow their operation.
We take being the nation's most reliable wireless network seriously. Seriously enough to protect our customers and our network from malicious attacks, even if we get dinged in the blogosphere. It's easy to complain about "blocking" when your wireless data connection is stable, fast and reliable. But try connecting to the web from your Droid or Blackberry when attacks slow - and potentially block - use of our network all together.
We monitor against attacks and potential attacks to ensure the integrity of the Verizon Wireless network. Our customers expect nothing less.
162.115.236.104 ( talk) 22:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC) JNels
4Chan is apparently either a victim or supporter of Operation Titstorm because their homepage is covered in pornographic images.(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29#Operation_Titstor and http://www.4chan.org/). I believe this should be archived in the 4Chan page however editing for that page has been blocked. If there is anyone who can edit that page I ask that they do so. JackRendar ( talk) 11:39, 11 February 2010 (UTC -6)
WHOIS suggests 2004. http://www.whois.net/whois/4chan.org MrJontyH ( talk) 12:44, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the whois is correct, but for a short amount of time the domain was 4chan.net (which now redirects to .org). 121.216.207.209 ( talk) 07:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
often used within the community to mock contributors showing an unhealthy interest in under-age girls What the fuck? *looks at source*... this is a joke, right? Completely unreliable source. NineNineTwoThreeSix ( talk) 05:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Another point: The references to "American incarnation", Europe, Poland and Malta make no sense. This is not some fad that spreads geographically, and the sentence seem to be written by someone who doesn't understand how 4chan in particular and the internet in general works.
88.91.87.46 (
talk) 14:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Should there be a mentioning about the new Facebook connection and the April Fool's day prank of Web 2.0 takeover? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.239.208 ( talk) 05:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Also, in October of 2010, /b/ agressively trolled a memorial page on FB that was being used to call for wearing of purple on 10/20/10 to commemorate victims of anti-gay bullying, highlighting Tyler Clementi and 5 other higly-publicized cases. The troll attack included use of scripted posts and images supplied at /b/, images from /b/ of popular memes such as "Son: I am homosex/Dad: I am dissapoint", use of Guy Fawkes masks for fake profiles, "For the lulz", and "an hero". Signed, eponymous (not logged in) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.234.115 ( talk) 05:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The source linked wasn't a reliable source and is a WP:BLP violation. Neither of the reliable sources (one of which doesn't even work) name the individual, nor do they indicate that anyone by this name was convicted of abusing a cat. They also likely wouldn't since the individual is a minor. Not sure when that was added, but if there is other content in the article of that nature its status as a FA should be revisted as that kind of stuff would completely invalidate it.-- Crossmr ( talk) 08:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
This is minor, but thought I'd bring it up. The article says, "4chan was started in 2003 in the bedroom of a 15-year old student from New York City", but the Wall Street Journal referenced says he grew up in suburban New York (near NYC). — Sebquantic ( talk) 20:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
I recently made changes to the Triforce section which were promptly removed along with the original paragraph for not having any verifiability. There is a page on Know Your Meme, along with various other sites containing either information about Triforcing or information about how to achieve one. Surely if an editor hadn't have removed the section they would have sufficed. Thanks, DotComCairney 11:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
You should note that moot has also said he is working on a new project and has registered the domain of canv.as. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.36.88 ( talk) 11:13, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
http://www.ted.com/talks/christopher_m00t_poole_the_case_for_anonymity_online.html
Brought here as reference material, for later use. KyuuA4 ( Talk:キュウ) 20:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
It was touched upon briefly in the AT&T section, but the extent of the situation I believe requires a bit more coverage. Kimmo Alm, the owner of AnonTalk, has gone so far as to make death threats against moot, and is one of the most prolific spammers 4chan has ever seen. One of 4chan's subdomains, a textboard called Tinychan found at http://tiny.4chan.org has been a particular target, with Alm claiming that it is an "illegal clone" of his work. I haven't contributed to Wikipedia in many years, but I find this to be fascinating. It is also notable that AnonTalk, or Kimmo Alm rather has targeted Wikipedia with his spam. He has tried to advertise his various sites here, and I believe URLs of his sites are to this day blacklisted because of the spamming. It is also worth noting, on the AT&T section, that AnonTalk lost it's domain name for refusing to take down a link to a torrent full of child pornography. Simply put it should say "AnonTalk" instead of "AnonTalk.com," since that URL now redirects to an unrelated anonymous BBS. These events definitely meet the notability standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.50.90.217 ( talk) 05:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I support this. Gunlog Alm ( talk) 04:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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Quite honestly, Pedobear is not used only to indicate a liking toward prepubescent girls but also boys. This sentence should be corrected:
to:
Thanks. - 98.19.145.226 ( talk) 22:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
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Specifically under "Media Attacks" -> "Internet Attention" -> 6th paragraph, the BBC article does not report that 4chan itself claimed responsibility, but simply certain 4chan members which have no affiliation with 4chan as an organization. 129.21.129.74 ( talk) 23:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I propose to add the current "hacking" of youtube. 4chan has used this code (sorry, cannot place code without messing with the html script of this page) to place a scrolling marque of text in the comment section of youtube, disallowing other comments to be posted and embedded links to work on the webpage. Among other invalid links was the "Flag as Inappropriate" button, allowing pornography, redirection links and other inappropriate content to be hosted on youtube.com. 4chan.org has archived the thread, and the raid is documented on "Knowyourmeme.com". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.64.150 ( talk) 13:16, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
This needs to be added in media attention: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10506482.stm Sherenk ( talk) 06:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
All of the past events involving Justin Bieber (Last FM Hacking, Posting Gore on his official Facebook, Sending him to North Korea, etc.) should be added to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dude018219293 ( talk • contribs) 19:46, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
There are no hard evidence that can show that 4chan did anything bad with justin bieber.I would love to see actual evidence and not only some wild hypothesis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Portugueseboy123 ( talk • contribs) 22:32, 8 July 2010 (UTC) — Portugueseboy123 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
http://www.nickburcher.com/2010/07/north-korea-justin-bieber-will-not-be.html ;this HAS to be in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.20.146.253 ( talk) 00:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
m00t is not living with his mother, unemployed. If you watch the TED video, which is already referred to in this article, he says that he is living in an apartment and is working.
This should be fixed. 173.57.61.233 ( talk) 06:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
M00t had to testify in the Sarah Palin email hack case to describe 4chan. It includes a lot of very basic descriptions of the site and the boards, so it would be useful. PDF here. Steven Walling 18:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
I would be changing this myself, but the article is locked (which is probably for the best).
I am refering to the line "In July 2010, members of 4chan launched a campaign of bullying and harassment against an 11-year-old girl, resulting in her being placed under police protection."
In order for this line to remain in this wikipedia page, you must do several things.
1) Provide a reliable source which states that it was 4chan users behind these attacks
2) Provide irrefutable proof that these attacks were part of some orgnaised campaign, rather than each person simply responding to this girl individually.
1 and 2 should cover verifyable, although I already know that neither of these can occur so I don't know why I'm even writing this.
3) Rewrite it in a neutral tone. Also a staple of wikipedia's rules. That line was clearly written by someone who did not see the video of Jessie threatening to "pop a glock in [people's] mouth and make a brain slushie." It was written by someone who first heard of this person after the story reached mainstream news, and who never visited 4chan to find their perspective.
So we have a line in an article in wikipedia that is making moral judgements about unverified events without even presenting the point of view of those it has condemned.
My ideal solution is to delete the offending line, the entire Jessie Slaughter event is not a significant one in the history of 4chan, and takes up valuable space that could be more easily replaced with much more interesting and informative matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.56.71.50 ( talk) 10:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Someone needs to update the picture, because they've added a new board since the current picture was taken. -- 70.134.48.188 ( talk) 17:25, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Now THAT'S a good source - [13] 159.182.1.4 ( talk) 13:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
This month's Technology Review article about moot & 4chan, by Julian Dibbell, is probably an even better source: [14]. Dreamyshade ( talk) 17:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The irish times deems to require a login to work fully, so the article should possibly be flagged as so. Not everyone is willing to be pressurised to put their details on the net when referring to a source. Other than that, great article. Thanks.-- Cymbelmineer ( talk) 19:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Its been rumored that they had a major influence in the voting, using proxxys to help RAAM beat Breen. I don't know if this is true, but if it is it should be added.
Spencer102 ( talk) 01:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC) Why do I have to type for tildes?
sup /wp/
Any reason not to move moot to his own page instead of a subsection? It's getting huge. -- Jamiew ( talk) 18:10, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
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In the moot section, I believe there is a citation needed for the following statement, since it is not clear on the former citation (102):
'moot also explained to the court the nature of the data given to the FBI as part of the search warrant, including how users can be uniquely identified from site audit logs.'
The citation 102 also could be moved to right after the word "lurker" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Igour ( talk • contribs) 20:23, 29 September 2010
I mean the in-line citations are higgledepiggledy. They really need formatting. See here for a good example of uncluttered citations for a "disputed" "hot-topic".-- Zucchinidreams ( talk) 01:45, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Concerns with this article's featured status include 1c and 2c concerns about the quality of citation formatting, and the use of inappropriate sources (4chan threads are used to source conclusions unsupportable from the direct data, including the popularity on 4chan of particular elements of memes). Web citations still need to be full citations, with page title, hosting site, publisher (if relevant) author, date, etc. I encourage the community of editors to discuss and fix these small issues. Fifelfoo ( talk) 03:41, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Well as you all may know, tumblr is being under attacked by 4chan. Reason being is because tumblr members are posting memes from 4chan without giving them credit. I'm on 4chan's side, tumblr is becoming more of a 'wannabe' imageboard than a blogging site. My 2cents Anyways, probably someone would like to include the event in the article as its only been 2 days since the attack was planned and a few thousands accounts on tumblr got locked up by 4chan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.139.239 ( talk) 07:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Editors may be interested in expressing an opinion in relation to the RfC at File talk:4chan front page 2010.png#RfC: ought 4chan front page 2010.png be updated to a version using the current front page of 4chan. Fifelfoo ( talk) 09:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, new to Wikipedia but under the moot section it should be noted 4chan is experiencing a spam attack where everyone's posts are changed to to "puddi puddi" while a song of the same name played from an imbedded youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10BxYZqa1Q&feature=player_embedded. A few of the images posted claimed moot was "killing the cancer" that had predominated board culture (especially /b/) through the forced use of image expression. 06:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
mention of 888chan should be made, as it is a similar in format and content to 4chan and it is the organiser of project chantology. 888chan contains most of the memes and the meme anonymous is far more used in ti than 4chan,
If you mention 888chan then you also need to mention 7chan, 12chan, 420chan... Vhomod33 ( talk) 15:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC) /b/ is only one of the boards on 4chan, and the anonymous group organizing the attacks come from anonops.net, not 4chan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.6.33 ( talk) 04:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
There's an over 9000 thing under project chanology. I'm too lazy to fix it, if making an account would even allow me to do that, but I'm sure one of you handsome people will do it for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.222.72.153 ( talk) 19:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Might well have some personal involvement with the subject of this article. Maybe we should put a template up with that users name with it on the top of the page, like we do with other users who arew involved with the subject of an article.-- Malleus Felonius ( talk) 22:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Well, as long as we're following WP:COI|Wikipedia Conflict of Interest Guidelines to an affine degree, then I guess there really is no argument. I suppose this has been settled, which is great, thank you for clearing it up, Resident. Malleus Felonius ( talk) 16:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Please remove "TIME TO FUCK THIS PAGE UP" Rikos.k ( talk) 20:59, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
The article currently uses the word "invasion" as if everyone knows what that means when it refers to a website. There should be a definition or a link to a definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.110.101 ( talk) 06:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
You spelled Anonymous wrong. —Preceding
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Done Possibly
WP:NOTNEWS here, as the outage was fairly short lived.--
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I think it should be noted that even this event could not have avoided being "lulzified" as NEDM (standing for not even doom music) is a meme involving said cat. -- 68.94.200.69 ( talk) 14:34, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
"4chan users have a reputation for being immature pranksters whose bad behavior is encouraged by the site's total anonymity and the absence of an archive." [16] Some part of this could be emphasized after the first sentence in the 4chan#Internet_attacks section. It would be useful in expressing the observed attitude of 4chan users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aoszkar ( talk • contribs) 10:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I would argue that contrary to suggestions that the 4chan wiki page include memes, or similarly, that there be a devoted page for 4chan memes outside its official one, that memes be separated entirely from association with purely 4chan. Without citing articles, I would suspect that few if any 4chan members exist purely on 4chan, i.e., that there are people who ONLY contribute or engage with 4chan, and therefore that memes are ubiquitous across many individual sites, and established only after they have permeated the larger web. To suggest that any meme can be confirmed to have been originated at 4chan, would be highly suspect. bradleygriffith ( talk) 18:31, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
What about a section on WikiLeaks? This is surely a major event, why so silent about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.207.97 ( talk) 23:06, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Adding the "missing" catalog mode to the External links might be a good idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.50.37 ( talk) 17:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
This edit cited "previously removed per WP:BLPNAME)". I don't recall seeing anything about a previous editorial consensus for there to be no name mentioned. I would argue that being arrested and charged with a crime eliminates someone's normal assumption of privacy.
Not interested in edit warring about it though. Sugar-Baby-Love ( talk) 21:55, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't mention be made of the fact that 4chan is imminently closing? moot lost the ad contract for the site and it will not be renewed. Most of the servers are already offline leaving the site painfully slow. Will a new paragraph be added shortly? AmyNelson ( talk) 04:22, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The whole board is now read only. Apparently users have migrated to 789chan. AmyNelson ( talk) 00:22, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Please don't call me a troll. The site WAS read only, for an hour, then came back. The site is currently down except for the front page. The down times, read only times, and extreme slowness, coupled with some other factors are what is causing many users to say it is closely imminently. I merely thought I could discuss it on the discussion page as it seemed relevant. AmyNelson ( talk) 23:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
What exactly makes this significant? This event seems to have been cherry-picked out of the many that occur on 4chan every year and mentioned simply because it involves Wikipedia. It should be removed. -- 2.98.187.84 ( talk) 22:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
All of the information about moot is currently on the 4chan page..
But, moot is notable for many more things than 4chan, such as Canvas and even being the inspiration of Anonymous, should he have his own article or not? SalfEnergy ( talk) 19:58, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm a co-owner and co-founder of a site called Yotsuba Society, or the "Society for the Study and Preservation of Yotsuba Channel". It's a website dedicated to study and preservation of the Western Imageboard Culture. Is is OK that I include a link to the site on the main 4chan page of Wikipedia? Jkid4 ( talk) 23:49, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
This doesn't seem like a very good description, seeing as the most frequented boards are about nothing in particular, video gaming, and porn. Perhaps someone would back one side or the other up? 173.180.124.102 ( talk) 13:46, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I see no criticism section here. I have read in over 14 news articles at least a minimum of criticism against 4chan, especially how minors are attracted to the site, how there is next to no moderation on specific boards, the mess of trying to find a thread in a fast-paced browsing board, the thought of "making one bisexual/gay" (I don't know if this can be considered critisism, but I read it anyhow) and some minor other things. Should I add sentences if I have the sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.82.83.62 ( talk) 10:40, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
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In the Pedobear subsection there is a mention of sexual interest in "underage children" - it seems to imply that there are children who are more than 18 years old.
I would simply change it to, "children". 88.149.154.119 ( talk) 15:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
{{edit semi-protected}} Today, /hc/ is available again. In the article, it's just specified that /hc/ was deleted but nothing about now. Could we modified it? :D Evoliofly ( talk) 17:58, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
The "DDoS Attacks" part of "Media attention" needs to be updated to include the latest DDoS mentioned on status.4chan.org that has caused the site to go down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.152.92 ( talk) 07:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Do we need the paragraph discussing /soc/, /r9k/, and /new/? I don't think they are really notable. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 05:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I removed this sentence During the 2011 South by Southwest festival, 4chan founder Christopher Poole commented on the growing My Little Pony following, because it's really saying nothing. he commented on the following. Wow, great, so what? What was his comment? Even if we don't quote it, did he give it a thumbs up, thumbs down, did he say anything at all other than "Yeah there sure are a lot of ponies on /b/"? Otherwise this is simply WP:TRIVIA because nothing of value is really said in this sentence.-- Crossmr ( talk) 23:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
This journalist's name is misspelled (as "Matthias"). Please correct to "Mattathias." Thank you. Jtropp1 ( talk) 18:48, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/internet/feds-raid-boys-home-over-4chan-child-porn-post I don't know which section to put it. Are you ready for IPv6? ( talk) 00:56, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Could somebody please edit the section of Memes: My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic so that it is not biased? Somebody edited the section to represent their views of the meme, not the general public's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.183.0.67 ( talk) 18:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
As of 6th Dec 4chan.org is removed from BT DNS servers and attempts to access the IP directly are blocked. This affects all the BT UK ISP users. Please add this to the list of ISP Bans on the main article (as the article is semi-locked). Thanks. (86.150.90.218)
Most of the memes on said file (one with 15 faces) are never used on 4chan anymore, for the ones that were it's at least a year or two out of date. Several of them were never on 4chan to begin with, such as the "Me Gusta" image and the vectorized versions of photos (Although the source photos for the latter were at one point used as "reaction images"-pictures posted alongside a post in order to represent one's personal reaction to the thread or a specific post. It's clear somebody just went on knowyourmeme.com or reddit (which recycles most of 4chan's old content in their rage comic or other subreddits) and copy-pasted a few images into a file. — Preceding unsigned comment added by T3haxle ( talk • contribs) 23:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Hardring ( talk) 00:37, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Why is it under the memes section? Sure, 4chan helped make it popular to internet users, but that doesn't make it a meme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.29.221 ( talk) 05:41, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Please note that the general 4chan user hates my little pony. Also it's not a meme. It's a TV-show, that's something entirely different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.107.11.61 ( talk)
Can you prove that please? -- Spazturtle !DERP/3/PiM Talk 16:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Kusaga ( talk) keeps removing MLP from the article. The remixes, image macros, etc fit the definition of meme (or internet phenomenon) as does its spread. There are several reliable sources that document it. It's as documented as an other "4chan meme". He should move to the talk page to build consensus first before making such a change. It should be noted that there is legitimate disdain for MLP among many members of 4chan, especially the anime boards. This is irrelevant as to whether it should be included or not. Nowhere does it say that "4chan memes" have to have universal acceptance. Remember the strong distain by many for Boxxy? The reliable sources are the most important, so it should be included. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 12:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC) WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not an argument. It doesn't matter if a lot of the internet hates MLP or not. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 12:37, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
It is not a 4chan meme because the 4chan users do not enjoy it, and it is forbidden to post ponies on 4chan, so it should not be in the meme section. It should however be in the article since it has spread from 4chan, just not in the meme section. Kusaga ( talk) 14:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
you are wrong, pony poster do get banned, just accept that you are wrong, they are not a meme, and should not be under the meme section. I do agree the should be in the article, just not in the meme section.
MLP did come from 4chan, but it is not liked on 4chan so not a meme on 4chan.
Kusaga (
talk) 16:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Moot just created /mlp/ - Pony. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 05:59, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Hey there, I'm not here to cause any trouble, but the editors on the (quite horrible) 9gag article seem insistent on including a piece of information that relates to 4chan as well, so I am just wondering if it is worthy of noting it on the 4chan page too? The paragraph in question reads as follows : "In January 2012, some members of 9Gag were blamed for 4Chan reportedly engaging in a cyber-bullying attack on Facebook memorial pages of 15-year-old suicide victim Amanda Cummings, posting offensive pictures and comments mocking her death." Aleksandar Bulovic' ( talk) 16:06, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
The reference for the blurb on "Lucas Henderson", specifically states that Mr. Henderson is facing charges "for allegedly posting counterfeit coupons on zoklet.net". As the arrest is only tangentially related to 4chan, it doesn't really fit. Ignofibininious ( talk) 02:46, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
In the 4chan community, -fag is used as a neutral suffix used on the boards to describe its users, i.e. variant form of "-person"
e.g. "Newfag", "Oldfag", "Drawfag", "Writefag", "Namefag", ect.
Anyone else think this is worthy of noting on the article? Lightsaber Guy ( talk) 18:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Tripcodes are mentioned in Imageboard - here, in the third paragraph. (When I make links, I do actually check them to make sure the thing they wind up at is what I want - unlike people who e.g. link to tree when they want the datastructure and don't bother to check it and wind up leaving the article with a link to the green thing.) I thought about making the link a piped link direct to Imageboard (to avoid the redirect) but decided not to because if someone, someday, writes a tripcode article, the link from 4chan will be right without having to go back and undo the bypass. And while Imageboard might be linked from 4chan, unless someone happens to click on that link and read the entire article thoroughly, they won't have any idea that if they need to know what a 'tripcode' might be, they need to go back and click on the Imageboard link. (I didn't know what a 'tripcode' was, which is why I added the link. So I can indeed verify that the link to Imageboard wasn't very useful in elucidating its meaning for me.) Noel (talk) 04:55, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
http://vps.tinyboard.org/chans/rank.txt is automatically generated every week err I mean hour, and lists the post rate of 4chan boards, as well as other *chan website boards, by posts/hour, posts/day, /posts/year, and % of total site, and lists them in a rank. The accuracy of these rankings are quite solid and reliable, however would it constitute
WP:OR if I cited these figures within the article? --
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From here:
# About This script routinely checks the total amount of posts on each board (by finding the highest post ID on the first page). It will produce comprehensive graphs (by day, week, month and year) for individual imageboards as well as some *chan/board comparison graphs. The script uses PHP, bash and rrdtool.
# Limitations These graphs and the ranking are very accurate, but the script does have some extremely minor inaccuracies: - If you "sage" a thread past the first page, it will go unnoticed until someone makes a post after you. (The bot doesn't actually have to see every post to be 100% accurate, just the latest post.) - If a post is deleted shortly after it's made it will go unnoticed (until someone posts after it).
All content assumed to be public domain. You may clone it as many times as possible.
See also http://vps.tinyboard.org/chans/README.txt and http://vps.tinyboard.org/chans/chans.txt for additional information. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 11:57, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I suggest you update the photo of the homepage as more boards have been put in place and it is an old picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.8.157.32 ( talk) 21:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
We need to allow this page to be open for edits, as I have not seen any disruption for a few months, even when the article was unlocked a few years ago. 140.198.45.66 ( talk) 01:21, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
The page opens with:
Users generally post anonymously, with the most popular posts appearing above the rest.
This would seem to imply a reddit-style page where the most popular posts show first, which is completely wrong. Latest posts show first, i.e. "bumped" threads, like most forums (of course most popular threads have more posts, thus you are more likely to see them on top, but that's a different thing). I suggest to change it to:
Users generally post anonymously, with the most recent posts appearing above the rest.
which is a bit more clear IMO. 188.79.140.169 ( talk) 19:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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I have some doubts in this event. Do people have more sources on this? This is affecting 4chan's image among asian users. 1.161.42.221 ( talk) 09:59, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
(outdent) If I have been too belligerent in my speech, then I apologise; when things like this do occur it does get quite confronting. As long as you understand that the point of making contributions to Wikipedia is to be constructive, then that's fine, and I'll ease up on you a bit. I however still would like to disagree with removing the statements from the article, and hope that we can come to an agreement or some sort of compromise.
These two news articles do not specifically mention 4chan, however report on Eri closing her Twitter account due to obscenity attacks:
Thus, it isn't a dubious statement that her Twitter was closed due to attacks and abuse. Then we have the Sina.com article affirming that some attacks came from 4chan, either in full or in portion (which isn't up to Wikipedia to report or decide, per WP:OR). Each reference builds on top of other references, thus verifying the statement. If you want to deny that the attacks came from /a/, and instead /v/ or /sp/ or whatever, we have the archives for that. I'd also like to make a mention that whenever 2ch is involved in a political incident concerning specific Japanese politicians, 2ch is never referred to by name, and instead "a certain discussion website" is used per standard journalism protocol in Japan, which is why the two Japanese sources do not mention any websites. Since this generally is a Japan issue, I don't there expect there to be English-language sources any time soon, especially since the likes of CNN don't particular care about Japanese anime voice actresses compared to news readers in China, Korea and Japan. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 00:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Need reliable sources. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 14:47, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
How ironic that 4chan//a/ is getting "epic trolled" here too by an /b/-tier troll. 5 users can be rewritten as "a handful of users" and cited by news sources that are notoriously inaccurate at reporting ongoings at 4chan. Next thing, there'll be a blurb on how Anonymous blew up random vans on the streets[1]. [1] - Fox news investigation video. 121.6.52.236 ( talk) 16:12, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
To put all this into perspective, here is a link to news coverage in English: Animenewsnetwork reporting about the topic Most notable is the following: "Voice actress Eri Kitamura also announced that her agency deleted her Twitter account, after she received a number of offensive messages regarding an unproven personal involvement with Kokoro Connect's producer Takahiro Yamanaka.", a link to Kitamura's blog where she makes this statement can be found in the linked article. This makes it pretty obvious that /a/'s involvement in the whole issue was rather coincidental and minor, in fact no sane person would assume that somebody with more than 20000 followers on Twitter would shut down her account merely because a couple of random foreigners send pictures of their penises. The real reason was that Kitamura was already being harassed by lots of Japanese "fans". The paragraph in question should either be removed or changed to better represent the given facts. Personally I'd vote for removal because this kind of topic is rather something for the yellow press to get excited about, but I'll leave that up to other editors. 80.141.150.229 ( talk) 09:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Just some info coming in http://pastebin.com/Pu2hADMc . Ald™ ¬_¬™ 11:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)