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that Johann Maria Farina created 4711 is just a myth and there are no sources. the german wiki says that the myth goes like this: "some say that Wilhelm Mülhens got the recipe in the year 1792 from Franz Maria Carl Gereon Farina, a monk, as a present at his wedding. but that we only know that Wilhelm Mülhens lived in cologne since 1797 and that he started making 'cologne water' since 1799." so why does the english wikipedia say it's a fact and gives credit to Farina. shouldn't we take myths with a grain of salt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.254.22.162 ( talk) 15:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Just a note. In Zamyatin's We, One of the characters is named S-4711... Some say it's an allusion to the cologne. Care to verify? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.104.60.87 ( talk • contribs) 02:25, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
JSTOR: Three Russian Writers and the Irrational: Zamyatin, Pil ... Three Russian Writers and the Irrational: Zamyatin, Pil'nyak, and Bulgakov ... Zamiatin borrowed the number for S- from 4711 Eau de Co- logne to illustrate ...
1792 - the birth of an international brand
In 1792 a Carthusian monk presented the newly-married Mulhens couple a seemingly modest wedding present. But this gift affected their future like no other; as it contained: The secret formula for an "aqua mirabilis", an invigorating medicinal "miracle water" later called "Eau de Cologne". Wilhelm Mulhens quickly recognised the value of this formula and soon after started to build a small factory in the street "Glockengasse" in Cologne.
In 1794, during the period of French occupation in Cologne, the French commander ordered consecutive numbering for all houses. The Mulhens building on "Glockengasse", where "Eau de Cologne" was produced, received the housenumber 4711. In 1875 this number became the registered trademark for the international brand 4711 ORIGINAL EAU DE COLOGNE.
4711 Eau de Cologne. Citrus with traces of rosemary and lavender, a spicy etheral scent for both men and women. Considered a unisex cologne.
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The above text is historical wrong. The story with the monk was invented after 1945.
213.168.95.158 10:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
4711 is also the tattoo that can be seen on Dr. Frank N. Furter's leg in Rocky Horror picture show. Just thought I would add that to the discussion :) -- TheReverendDoom 17:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
[Copied from User talk:Neelvk]. -- Jtir 21:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, do you have a verifiable source that describes the use of "4711" by software engineers? -- Jtir 08:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 05:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The pronunciation was changed some time ago by an un-named contributor. I can see no evidence for this change, in fact all the searches seem to confirm the four-seven-eleven version, in fact, and I understand that this is original research, all the TV and cinema advertisements of the 60s and 70s use this, as do the current owners of the brand. On further research, Irish and Australian marketing seems to have used the same pronunciation. I have reverted the un-named edit to reflect this. Splodgeness ( talk) 12:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Vandalism removed
The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian ( talk) 16:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
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I am unable to understand the connection between the presence of French troops and the need for house numbering. Please explain. 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:B5A1:6530:AD6A:107D ( talk) 20:52, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
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that Johann Maria Farina created 4711 is just a myth and there are no sources. the german wiki says that the myth goes like this: "some say that Wilhelm Mülhens got the recipe in the year 1792 from Franz Maria Carl Gereon Farina, a monk, as a present at his wedding. but that we only know that Wilhelm Mülhens lived in cologne since 1797 and that he started making 'cologne water' since 1799." so why does the english wikipedia say it's a fact and gives credit to Farina. shouldn't we take myths with a grain of salt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.254.22.162 ( talk) 15:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Just a note. In Zamyatin's We, One of the characters is named S-4711... Some say it's an allusion to the cologne. Care to verify? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.104.60.87 ( talk • contribs) 02:25, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
JSTOR: Three Russian Writers and the Irrational: Zamyatin, Pil ... Three Russian Writers and the Irrational: Zamyatin, Pil'nyak, and Bulgakov ... Zamiatin borrowed the number for S- from 4711 Eau de Co- logne to illustrate ...
1792 - the birth of an international brand
In 1792 a Carthusian monk presented the newly-married Mulhens couple a seemingly modest wedding present. But this gift affected their future like no other; as it contained: The secret formula for an "aqua mirabilis", an invigorating medicinal "miracle water" later called "Eau de Cologne". Wilhelm Mulhens quickly recognised the value of this formula and soon after started to build a small factory in the street "Glockengasse" in Cologne.
In 1794, during the period of French occupation in Cologne, the French commander ordered consecutive numbering for all houses. The Mulhens building on "Glockengasse", where "Eau de Cologne" was produced, received the housenumber 4711. In 1875 this number became the registered trademark for the international brand 4711 ORIGINAL EAU DE COLOGNE.
4711 Eau de Cologne. Citrus with traces of rosemary and lavender, a spicy etheral scent for both men and women. Considered a unisex cologne.
_______________________________________________
The above text is historical wrong. The story with the monk was invented after 1945.
213.168.95.158 10:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
4711 is also the tattoo that can be seen on Dr. Frank N. Furter's leg in Rocky Horror picture show. Just thought I would add that to the discussion :) -- TheReverendDoom 17:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
[Copied from User talk:Neelvk]. -- Jtir 21:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, do you have a verifiable source that describes the use of "4711" by software engineers? -- Jtir 08:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 05:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The pronunciation was changed some time ago by an un-named contributor. I can see no evidence for this change, in fact all the searches seem to confirm the four-seven-eleven version, in fact, and I understand that this is original research, all the TV and cinema advertisements of the 60s and 70s use this, as do the current owners of the brand. On further research, Irish and Australian marketing seems to have used the same pronunciation. I have reverted the un-named edit to reflect this. Splodgeness ( talk) 12:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Vandalism removed
The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian ( talk) 16:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
4711 → 4711 (brand) – Why 36.83.125.206 ( talk) 08:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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I am unable to understand the connection between the presence of French troops and the need for house numbering. Please explain. 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:B5A1:6530:AD6A:107D ( talk) 20:52, 13 September 2018 (UTC)