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I'm pretty sure it is command guided - every web source I can find says it is. A.R. can you provide a source that claims it isn't ? Megapixie 02:32, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
In particular the 4x fracticides claim. A quick review of the sources doesn't bring anything up. Thanks Megapixie 03:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC) The missile is command guided by the Continuous Wave radar underneath The Tracking Radar on the 1S91 radar. Although you can fire the missiles without radar guidance. The TEL can fire the missile in simple Ballistic trajectory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.178.28.237 ( talk) 23:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
There is no such thing as a 3M9 TEL. 3M9, 3M9M and 3M9M3 are missile designations. The TELs are designated 2P25. Frank D 16:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I´m deleting this:
"On 19 April 1974 a MiG-23MS flown by Maj. El al-Masry is said to have shot down 2 IAF F-4Es during a mission over the Golan Heights against an Israeli offensive to destroy Syrian SAMs. He was subsequently shot down by an AAM fired by the Israelis and apparently by a friendly SA-6 battery.<ref>http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_273.shtml</ref>"
No direct relation with SAM-6. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.254.127.194 ( talk) 04:46, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Is there any indications as to why there was no shipboard version of the missile as there were for almost every other Soviet SAM system? For a time, it was believed (by NATO, at least) that the SA-N-3 was a derivative of the SA-6, but now that we know this not to be the case, what are the reasons why this rather formidable system was not navalized?-- 172.190.41.82 ( talk) 21:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
The 2K12M version of Kub missile system is still operational in Poland. Planned to be replaced in "Narew" modernization program, but this to be concluded around 2018-2022. About 20 TELARs are in service in Polish Land Forces.
/info/en/?search=List_of_equipment_of_the_Polish_Land_Forces#Vehicles http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,2,4,8146,armie-swiata,wojsko-polskie,stan-realizacji-programu-obrony-powietrznej — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.67.151.131 ( talk) 20:35, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
It is my opinion that the section about relative ineffectiveness in shooting down aircraft should be edited, since there are a wide variety of things that an IADS can do to be useful that are not shooting down aircraft. If a bomb-laden aircraft can be forced to jettison its load in the middle of nowhere, that is a success. Focusing overly much on shooting down aircraft does not paint a terribly accurate picture of how the role of the system in the campaigns and betrays a lack of expertise on the part of whoever wrote that sentence or two about how air defenses work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.74.135.218 ( talk) 23:59, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
The article states thate it is made in 10,000 examples. This cannot be true, simply put.
SIPRI (that i hope you may know) states straightly that countries OUTSIDE URSS received no less than 22,000 examples. Only the DDR had 6,500 missiles. And this not includes the soviet examples (surely several thousands more), so the production could have been something more than 30,000-40,000 units, roughly like the HAWK. After all, let's think about it: DDR, Poland, Hungary, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, India, only to say the major costumers. It's simply impossible that 10,000 could satisfy all of them, that expended thousands missiles in real wars, and still there were many more weapons in soviet army as well. Stef Menc ( talk) 14:01, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Even more nonsense is the number of launchers 'produced'. The article states in the box, '500 launchers', while even in recent years, the (incomplete) datas amount to more than 720 launchers!! This not include the soviet/russian, of course, and several other countries.
Only the DDR launchers were no less but 107, to make an example. So the DDR had more than 20% of the total SA-6 produced? While in 1986 soviet army was extimed to have more than 600 launchers itself.
So it's not only SIPRI, but WIKI itself that is contradicts its statements. Stef Menc ( talk) 14:42, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Algeria: 10 SA-6 systems(600 missiles); Angola 7 SA-6 (400); Bulgaria 10 SA-6 (600); Cuba SA-6 (200); Czecoslovakia 10 SA-6 (600) DDR: 27 SA-6 (6,500) Egypt: 18 SA-6 (750) Hungary: 10 SA-6 (600) India: 25 SA-6 (1,500) Iraq: 20 SA-6 (1,200) Libya: 35 SA-6 (2,100) Poland: 25 SA-6 (1,500) Romania: 10 SA-6 (600) S.Yemen: 6 SA-6 (400) Syria: 50 SA-6 3,800) Tanzania: 3 SA-6 (200) Vietnam: 10 SA-6 (600) Yugoslavia: 17 SA-6 (1,000). 62.11.0.22 ( talk) 18:41, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure it is command guided - every web source I can find says it is. A.R. can you provide a source that claims it isn't ? Megapixie 02:32, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
In particular the 4x fracticides claim. A quick review of the sources doesn't bring anything up. Thanks Megapixie 03:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC) The missile is command guided by the Continuous Wave radar underneath The Tracking Radar on the 1S91 radar. Although you can fire the missiles without radar guidance. The TEL can fire the missile in simple Ballistic trajectory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.178.28.237 ( talk) 23:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
There is no such thing as a 3M9 TEL. 3M9, 3M9M and 3M9M3 are missile designations. The TELs are designated 2P25. Frank D 16:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I´m deleting this:
"On 19 April 1974 a MiG-23MS flown by Maj. El al-Masry is said to have shot down 2 IAF F-4Es during a mission over the Golan Heights against an Israeli offensive to destroy Syrian SAMs. He was subsequently shot down by an AAM fired by the Israelis and apparently by a friendly SA-6 battery.<ref>http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_273.shtml</ref>"
No direct relation with SAM-6. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.254.127.194 ( talk) 04:46, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Is there any indications as to why there was no shipboard version of the missile as there were for almost every other Soviet SAM system? For a time, it was believed (by NATO, at least) that the SA-N-3 was a derivative of the SA-6, but now that we know this not to be the case, what are the reasons why this rather formidable system was not navalized?-- 172.190.41.82 ( talk) 21:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
The 2K12M version of Kub missile system is still operational in Poland. Planned to be replaced in "Narew" modernization program, but this to be concluded around 2018-2022. About 20 TELARs are in service in Polish Land Forces.
/info/en/?search=List_of_equipment_of_the_Polish_Land_Forces#Vehicles http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,2,4,8146,armie-swiata,wojsko-polskie,stan-realizacji-programu-obrony-powietrznej — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.67.151.131 ( talk) 20:35, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
It is my opinion that the section about relative ineffectiveness in shooting down aircraft should be edited, since there are a wide variety of things that an IADS can do to be useful that are not shooting down aircraft. If a bomb-laden aircraft can be forced to jettison its load in the middle of nowhere, that is a success. Focusing overly much on shooting down aircraft does not paint a terribly accurate picture of how the role of the system in the campaigns and betrays a lack of expertise on the part of whoever wrote that sentence or two about how air defenses work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.74.135.218 ( talk) 23:59, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
The article states thate it is made in 10,000 examples. This cannot be true, simply put.
SIPRI (that i hope you may know) states straightly that countries OUTSIDE URSS received no less than 22,000 examples. Only the DDR had 6,500 missiles. And this not includes the soviet examples (surely several thousands more), so the production could have been something more than 30,000-40,000 units, roughly like the HAWK. After all, let's think about it: DDR, Poland, Hungary, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, India, only to say the major costumers. It's simply impossible that 10,000 could satisfy all of them, that expended thousands missiles in real wars, and still there were many more weapons in soviet army as well. Stef Menc ( talk) 14:01, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Even more nonsense is the number of launchers 'produced'. The article states in the box, '500 launchers', while even in recent years, the (incomplete) datas amount to more than 720 launchers!! This not include the soviet/russian, of course, and several other countries.
Only the DDR launchers were no less but 107, to make an example. So the DDR had more than 20% of the total SA-6 produced? While in 1986 soviet army was extimed to have more than 600 launchers itself.
So it's not only SIPRI, but WIKI itself that is contradicts its statements. Stef Menc ( talk) 14:42, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Algeria: 10 SA-6 systems(600 missiles); Angola 7 SA-6 (400); Bulgaria 10 SA-6 (600); Cuba SA-6 (200); Czecoslovakia 10 SA-6 (600) DDR: 27 SA-6 (6,500) Egypt: 18 SA-6 (750) Hungary: 10 SA-6 (600) India: 25 SA-6 (1,500) Iraq: 20 SA-6 (1,200) Libya: 35 SA-6 (2,100) Poland: 25 SA-6 (1,500) Romania: 10 SA-6 (600) S.Yemen: 6 SA-6 (400) Syria: 50 SA-6 3,800) Tanzania: 3 SA-6 (200) Vietnam: 10 SA-6 (600) Yugoslavia: 17 SA-6 (1,000). 62.11.0.22 ( talk) 18:41, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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