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In the Casualties section of the article, it's said that 45 people died, but then a gender breakdown adds up to 46 deaths. These can't both be true, but I can't find any sources besides the Reuters source used that claims that 46 people died, so I believe it may have accidentally counted the girl that survived as one of deceased. Does anyone have more details on this?-- Elipticon ( talk) 13:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
First paragraph in the background section is straight up plagarized from this article: https://www.dw.com/en/south-africa-bus-crash-leaves-dozens-dead/a-68695354
If we could get a change to this part it would be great Sharrdx ( talk) 03:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I've tagged this article as its notability is tenuous. Individual events are not notable unless they have significant long-term coverage; per WP:SUSTAINED, Wikipedia is a lagging indicator of notability and simple news coverage is not sufficient. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 03:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, is this nonsense about "unlucky" and "lucky" in the lead relevant or is it just vandalism? I am not bold enough to edit it so, I am just raising awareness.
EDIT: Apologies, it was fixed in the time it took me to write this. SynthGuard ( talk) 18:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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Yesterday I did some editing that tried to avoid formulaic language about the accident. When English news agencies report on accidents of this kind, they follow a highly standardized form (known as bus plunge) to give the story "human interest" — that is, to sensationalize it. The verb is always "plunge", the destination is always a "ravine", etc.
Anyway, in my research I located the bridge as crossing the Xume River which another editor found to be incorrect. Indeed, I cannot verify that the bridge crosses a river gorge at all so perhaps that should be reverted to "ravine" as the sources say, pending more information about what sort of geological feature is involved. 2601:642:4600:D3B0:D415:E05B:BCAE:F30C ( talk) 14:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Can someone help me propose this change? It better follows MOS as far as I can tell, and most of the reliable sources for this article are using "crash" not "accident" (as the AP suggests) Dreameditsbrooklyn ( talk) 15:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to 2024 Mmamatlakala bus crash. Consensus on the alternate proposed title. – robertsky ( talk) 05:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Mamatlakala highway accident →
2024 Mmamatlakala Highway crash – None of the sources cited are still using the word 'accident' and Mmamatlakala is the correct spelling as far as I can tell.
Dreameditsbrooklyn (
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In the Casualties section of the article, it's said that 45 people died, but then a gender breakdown adds up to 46 deaths. These can't both be true, but I can't find any sources besides the Reuters source used that claims that 46 people died, so I believe it may have accidentally counted the girl that survived as one of deceased. Does anyone have more details on this?-- Elipticon ( talk) 13:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
First paragraph in the background section is straight up plagarized from this article: https://www.dw.com/en/south-africa-bus-crash-leaves-dozens-dead/a-68695354
If we could get a change to this part it would be great Sharrdx ( talk) 03:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I've tagged this article as its notability is tenuous. Individual events are not notable unless they have significant long-term coverage; per WP:SUSTAINED, Wikipedia is a lagging indicator of notability and simple news coverage is not sufficient. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 03:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, is this nonsense about "unlucky" and "lucky" in the lead relevant or is it just vandalism? I am not bold enough to edit it so, I am just raising awareness.
EDIT: Apologies, it was fixed in the time it took me to write this. SynthGuard ( talk) 18:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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edit request to
Mamatlakala highway accident has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Yesterday I did some editing that tried to avoid formulaic language about the accident. When English news agencies report on accidents of this kind, they follow a highly standardized form (known as bus plunge) to give the story "human interest" — that is, to sensationalize it. The verb is always "plunge", the destination is always a "ravine", etc.
Anyway, in my research I located the bridge as crossing the Xume River which another editor found to be incorrect. Indeed, I cannot verify that the bridge crosses a river gorge at all so perhaps that should be reverted to "ravine" as the sources say, pending more information about what sort of geological feature is involved. 2601:642:4600:D3B0:D415:E05B:BCAE:F30C ( talk) 14:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Can someone help me propose this change? It better follows MOS as far as I can tell, and most of the reliable sources for this article are using "crash" not "accident" (as the AP suggests) Dreameditsbrooklyn ( talk) 15:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to 2024 Mmamatlakala bus crash. Consensus on the alternate proposed title. – robertsky ( talk) 05:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Mamatlakala highway accident →
2024 Mmamatlakala Highway crash – None of the sources cited are still using the word 'accident' and Mmamatlakala is the correct spelling as far as I can tell.
Dreameditsbrooklyn (
talk) 23:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)