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The result of the move request was: not moved. Strong community opposition to this request. ( non-admin closure) - 🔥 𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:41, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
2023 Odisha train collision → ? – Still does not need year, and perhaps "collision" isn't consistent, as Tempi train crash uses "crash". 90.255.15.152 ( talk) 18:29, 5 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/ STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 20:41, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
"2023 Odisha train collision → Odisha rail disaster – Consistency", even though WP:DISASTER specifically states
"Try to avoid the words disaster, tragedy and crisis because this characterization is too subjective."(You can also see their other move discussions if you're interested.) It does not appear that this user is constructively starting move discussions, which, in addition to the fact that they didn't specify an alternate article title, led me to close the above discussion. If you believe this discussion has potential, you're of course more than welcome to re-open it. Nythar ( 💬- 🍀) 19:14, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
I've reopened the thing as you're allowed "?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.255.15.152 ( talk • contribs)
train wrecks should be named according to the "where and what" convention, not the "when, where and what" convention. -- wooden superman 12:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
For the derailment in Jajpur, see Jajpur derailmentwould do. I maintain my support to a move. -- wooden superman 12:58, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Two unreserved coaches and the brake van of the Bengaluru–Howrah Express were derailed. The remainder of the train, which included the engine and 20 coaches, left with its passengers and continued to Balasore, where a further damaged coach was detached.
This causes more question than it answers. Please rewrite this to clarify: did the remainder really just keep going, as if nothing happened, or are you talking about stopping and then starting again? Did the train crew not even realize they had lost the end of their train? Who made the decision to leave?
CapnZapp ( talk) 23:03, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
At the end of the lead description it is stated that the incident was "India's deadliest railway crash since the Firozibad rail collision." The linked article lists a death toll of 358 (>400), which would make it considerably less deadly that the 2023 Odisha train collision. 89.64.27.101 ( talk) 08:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Strong community opposition to this request. ( non-admin closure) - 🔥 𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:41, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
2023 Odisha train collision → ? – Still does not need year, and perhaps "collision" isn't consistent, as Tempi train crash uses "crash". 90.255.15.152 ( talk) 18:29, 5 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/ STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 20:41, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
"2023 Odisha train collision → Odisha rail disaster – Consistency", even though WP:DISASTER specifically states
"Try to avoid the words disaster, tragedy and crisis because this characterization is too subjective."(You can also see their other move discussions if you're interested.) It does not appear that this user is constructively starting move discussions, which, in addition to the fact that they didn't specify an alternate article title, led me to close the above discussion. If you believe this discussion has potential, you're of course more than welcome to re-open it. Nythar ( 💬- 🍀) 19:14, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
I've reopened the thing as you're allowed "?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.255.15.152 ( talk • contribs)
train wrecks should be named according to the "where and what" convention, not the "when, where and what" convention. -- wooden superman 12:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
For the derailment in Jajpur, see Jajpur derailmentwould do. I maintain my support to a move. -- wooden superman 12:58, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Two unreserved coaches and the brake van of the Bengaluru–Howrah Express were derailed. The remainder of the train, which included the engine and 20 coaches, left with its passengers and continued to Balasore, where a further damaged coach was detached.
This causes more question than it answers. Please rewrite this to clarify: did the remainder really just keep going, as if nothing happened, or are you talking about stopping and then starting again? Did the train crew not even realize they had lost the end of their train? Who made the decision to leave?
CapnZapp ( talk) 23:03, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
At the end of the lead description it is stated that the incident was "India's deadliest railway crash since the Firozibad rail collision." The linked article lists a death toll of 358 (>400), which would make it considerably less deadly that the 2023 Odisha train collision. 89.64.27.101 ( talk) 08:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)